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Truthbringer after the day post: "Is it worth analyzing on priest so that an angel can protect him or should we just hope the mafia don't figure out who he is?"
Such a fricking obvious tell. Much worse than ydg talking about how the priest should roleclaim after we can make him invulnerable. Why was this not in your post L? I showed it to BC and he said well YDG has a wider body of tells but honestly nothing he's done seems that suspicious to me and there hasn't been a single clue toward him. Truthbringer's clues we're good, I thought araav's were better but a vote for araav is useless at this point, and Truthbringer's behavior + clues easily outweighs araav's clue + behavior so I'm changing my vote.
It's obvious priest clues are only there to help mafia and, secondarily, angels. Truthbringer's been in a few games, I'm sure he'd understand that. Given the night 1 hit list, mafia suck at analysis and were probably hoping for a freebie from us. No can do.
Also, I dunno how the hell BC could honestly miss that. I still believe the araav analysis I made, but BC is still on about this vehicle thing that seems iffy to me. But he's also going on about how YDG wants to know about the Priest when TB was doing the same thing, but worse. Plus there are zero clues for YDG vs. plenty for TB. His discussion hasn't been much less chaotic than YDG's, starting with araav and moving to YDGs so (sorry I'm capitalizing it, I can't help it  ) I'm not totally buying it but I'll go after him if clues come up. Could be that BC is doing great analysis on the priest behind the scenes and shotgunning gems like "entusman -> enterman" in the thread. If MBH is rezzed, we're in the clear. If not, I wouldn't role claim to anybody. Whether BC is good or bad aligned we can force him to use double lynches in our favor (or give himself away if maf). I see he's posting now about the truthbringer evidence I showed him in MSN...
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Also, I suppose I should post this, too: BloodyC0bbler informed me that if you look at the first set of mafia kills on the player list, 7, 15, 19, 21 and change them into letters, it spells: G O S U... I dunno how someone would figure that out although I suppose I should be happy that our mafia enemies are more intent on playing Alphabet Soup than Mafia. BC says Plexa told him that but that could just be a ploy to get me to think he's innocent (and thus in need of Plexa to explain the kill list to him since that implies BC was not involved in its creation) and to use the first set of kills to take suspicion off of skilled, active players and onto people who take the game less seriously. Dunno what to think. I LOLed at first but it obviously should be able to tell us something useful.
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motbob
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On July 07 2009 15:52 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Also, I suppose I should post this, too: BloodyC0bbler informed me that if you look at the first set of mafia kills on the player list, 7, 15, 19, 21 and change them into letters, it spells: G O S U...
hahahaha what
That's hilarious and a little sad.
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just got back from a mini-vacation. will catch up asap.
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On July 07 2009 15:56 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2009 15:52 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Also, I suppose I should post this, too: BloodyC0bbler informed me that if you look at the first set of mafia kills on the player list, 7, 15, 19, 21 and change them into letters, it spells: G O S U... hahahaha what That's hilarious and a little sad.
QFT.
I read. I analyzed. Then my brain said "LEAVE ME ALONE AND GET SOME FUCKING SLEEP DUDE"
I've been up way too long. I'm going to bed. I'll post tomorrow.
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not done reading through (on page 19) but i would like to note that an overly hostile figure has a high chance of being mafia. that means you ydg.
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Sydney2287 Posts
On July 07 2009 15:44 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Truthbringer after the day post: "Is it worth analyzing on priest so that an angel can protect him or should we just hope the mafia don't figure out who he is?"
Such a fricking obvious tell. Much worse than ydg talking about how the priest should roleclaim after we can make him invulnerable. Why was this not in your post L? I showed it to BC and he said well YDG has a wider body of tells but honestly nothing he's done seems that suspicious to me and there hasn't been a single clue toward him. Truthbringer's clues we're good, I thought araav's were better but a vote for araav is useless at this point, and Truthbringer's behavior + clues easily outweighs araav's clue + behavior so I'm changing my vote.
Sorry for weighing in so late. I think this is fairly sums up why I'm suspicious of truthbringer. I think also at this point we do get information from his death beyond his role. Info about bandwagons, distractions, anti-bandwagons etc.
Oh and in case any player is legitimately wondering, it would be a Bad idea for us to publicly (or even privately in circles) identify the priest before MBH is revived.
Also the thing about BC and G.O.S.U. is interesting, kind of reminds me of mafia 2, when we used the suicide bomber, we couldn't stop the bomber from gloating in the thread. That said, entirely possible that Plexa told him or that he just noticed it.
I just spilt milk (hah!) onto my laptop today so I can increase my activity now that I kind of have an impromptu holiday while I sort that out.
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don't think this has been mentioned yet but scamp's quote is "cheese is good for you!". bit of an obvious connection and i don't really know what to make out of it but just thought i'd throw it out there.
edit: in my mind it made sense... but i totally forgot to mention that the aforementioned cheese may connect to the cheese factory
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I suppose I should be happy that our mafia enemies are more intent on playing Alphabet Soup than Mafia
senseless killing :D:D
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First off, as L stated, people should think and analyze for themselves. Don't follow blind orders and when you read an analyzis from someone else, go back and check it there is truth in it. Then post your own thoughts about it.
I'm still voting rain. I don't like taking the risk that mafia found out who the priest is. They could even be throwing us off by lynching badly in the first night to make us believe they are not good in clue analyzing. So I'd rather take the risk that we have a medic who found out who the priest and not loose MBH, than to just hope the mafia haven't found out. Also, because the rules state:
If the weather is Rainy, you may select two targets to protect or protect the same target twice.
This means that with a bit of luck we can reduce mafia kill power as well.
BC, the more you post the less I am starting to like it. I'm not advocating you are mafia (now), but behavioural analyzis combined with what could be a clue in the day 2 post should have everyone be wary at least. The same goes for some other vocal people though, even if they are arguing against you (and should go for me as well, don't trust anyone but MBH really).
I suppose I should be happy that our mafia enemies are more intent on playing Alphabet Soup than Mafia
This could just as easily be a coincidence. But if it is true it could also show that the mafia are so confident that they just lynched like that, because they have such good players they aren't worried by the town's efforts at al so far. So don't let this or there lynching lure you into a false sense of confidence that we as the town are or have better players than they do.
As for truthbringer, I agree that he is probably our best target for now. But I also think that if it is true he has been handed to us on a silver platter, perhaps too easy. So while I don't see a diffirent target that makes more sense, I doubt it will be this easy. That said, abstaining is always too easy because once we loose everyone can lay the blame elsehwere. So I am voting truthbringer.
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by the way there is a shittload of people voting for truthbringer.
If i was mafia i would just slightly sway the number of votes, nothing like that..
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Also, since we are voting rain when MBH is (hopefully) revived- mystics should do a couple votechecks~! and PM them to MBH, who is a confirmed townie, and he can relay that information to the rest of us, as well as any information on checks etc.
All the blues should roleclaim to MBH if he is revived, Imo. if any mafia tries to fake roleclaim it just makes it easier for him.
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Why is Truthbringer NOT voting ydg
Simple. They are both Mafia. Truthbringer is a pledge, ydg is mafia, or GF or suicide bomber.
Like i said beforem there is a LOT of new votes for truthbringer
If i was mafia i would just slightly sway the number of votes, nothing like that.
Thoughts?
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- Truthbringer is taking the bullet for ydg
- mafia simply don't care because truthbringer is townie
- they are both townie and well, mafia are all holding a bag of popcorn and laughing and spelling gosu with their hitlists
all these scenarios make it beneficial to lynch ydg
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I haven't played nor followed the past few mafia games, but has BWdero always been this silent in the threads? He has so far posted nothing and only band wagon voted (BC and Truthbringer). That combined with what could be a clue, pulsating man, is strange. This perhaps wouldn't be that strange, but he has been linked as a good player in need of medical protection in the beginning of the game. So anyone here has experience with how he normally plays?
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On July 07 2009 20:46 Lenwe wrote:
I haven't played nor followed the past few mafia games, but has BWdero always been this silent in the threads? He has so far posted nothing and only band wagon voted (BC and Truthbringer). That combined with what could be a clue, pulsating man, is strange. This perhaps wouldn't be that strange, but he has been linked as a good player in need of medical protection in the beginning of the game. So anyone here has experience with how he normally plays?
I can answer that myself. Yeah, usually I'm quiet. Occasionally I talk a bit. I've been both an active participant and a silent observer as town. The only time I was mafia I made like 3 posts total in the thread so I guess you can hold that against me.
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darn i was hoping to survive this game by following blind orders 
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On July 07 2009 16:21 redtooth wrote:
not done reading through (on page 19) but i would like to note that an overly hostile figure has a high chance of being mafia. that means you ydg.
That's unfair...bc and L are just as hostile as me .
On July 07 2009 19:54 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Why is Truthbringer NOT voting ydg
Simple. They are both Mafia. Truthbringer is a pledge, ydg is mafia, or GF or suicide bomber.
Like i said beforem there is a LOT of new votes for truthbringer
If i was mafia i would just slightly sway the number of votes, nothing like that.
Thoughts?
Or it could be that he is....INACTIVE?? He hasn't posted anything here in a while.
On July 07 2009 20:14 HeavOnEarth wrote:
- Truthbringer is taking the bullet for ydg
- mafia simply don't care because truthbringer is townie
- they are both townie and well, mafia are all holding a bag of popcorn and laughing and spelling gosu with their hitlists
all these scenarios make it beneficial to lynch ydg
Most likely the third one, I believe one of the slew of people who just posted to pose as active is mafia and neither me nor truthbringer are mafia. In fact, that's exactly what we did in Pyrrh's game, we just sat back and watched teks and zeks and Shikyo go at it and flew under the radar. But hey, I'll take my vote off truthbringer and let's watch how the deciding votes lie.
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Voting is ended i think... O_o
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I think we're starting to see a bit of a bus on Truthbringer. If he flips red, which I'm not 100% on, but definitely not ruling it out, then a votelist check should probably be done on that list. If he flips green, it'd be worth it as well but I smell a strong stench of diesel.
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