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TruthBringer
United States578 Posts
I just figured that as it stands, it is much more likely the mafia would figure out who the priest is and kill him than the two angels. The plan to claim to MBH only works if the priest lives long enough to revive him. And FFS, I didn't start clue analyzing on the priest, I brought up for discussion whether or not we should clue analyze on the priest. | ||
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
 Sure, we could search out the priest, but posting it in this topic would only do two things. Allow the mafia to stack hits on him, and allow our angels to protect him. And we wouldn't have rain up, so the mafia could kill him for sure, and the angels, if protecting him, could die to a suicide bomb. Before the Gosu message came to light, I had also been thinking about the kill list. What if mafia just chose seemingly random targets, to throw us off, and make us think that they didn't have any good players? Killing all green would make us relax a bit, and everyone has been saying things like "Okay, mafia doesn't have any good players, lol, we're safe", but spelling out the Gosu message, if planned, could tell a different story. Waste the night one kills with a fun message. If we get any blues, cool. If not, all the better, they now think we're incompetent. Tonight's kills will give us a better idea, but it could have a lot more blue on it tonight, I'm thinking. :/ | ||
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ecomania
Germany35 Posts
Both L's and BC's analysis seemed pretty solid to me, so I chose to abstain first. But now that ydg is voting for me I'm just going with him ;P Or was time for voting already up? I'm getting confused with the time zones... | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 08 2009 00:06 StorrZerg wrote: Voting is ended i think... O_o Not yet, BC requested more voting time | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13921 Posts
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ydg
United States690 Posts
On July 08 2009 00:38 ecomania wrote: I don't get it why there are 3 guys randomly voting to lynch me. Both L's and BC's analysis seemed pretty solid to me, so I chose to abstain first. But now that ydg is voting for me I'm just going with him ;P Or was time for voting already up? I'm getting confused with the time zones... Just taking my vote off of Truthbringer and having to put it on someone, didn't want to abstain since then people would suspect me of not wanting to be on a list anywhere. And hey look, since I'm now vulnerable to be lynched, let's see who piles onto me to force me to be lynched instead of Truthbringer! | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On July 08 2009 01:12 StorrZerg wrote: when does it end now then O_o? I think in about 12-13 hours. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13921 Posts
18:00 KST time he just said. don don. we got some time. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
a) sleeping b) going shopping w/ gf | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On July 08 2009 03:21 Plexa wrote: b) going shopping w/ gf I give your wallet my deepest condolences. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 08 2009 03:23 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: I give your wallet my deepest condolences. Shes taking her cousin shopping, im tagging along. Cousin will be doing all the paying today!! | ||
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
On July 08 2009 00:27 TruthBringer wrote: About the priest analysis debate . . . angels/medics have been notoriously bad at protecting the right targets. And people were talking about using rain to allow the angels to protect the priest and avoid him getting suicide bombed. I just figured that as it stands, it is much more likely the mafia would figure out who the priest is and kill him than the two angels. The plan to claim to MBH only works if the priest lives long enough to revive him. And FFS, I didn't start clue analyzing on the priest, I brought up for discussion whether or not we should clue analyze on the priest. Wanted to point another thing out with why publicly stating who the priest is would hurt us. If we voted rain, the suicide bomber couldn't bomb the angel, however, mafia's KP wouldn't be lowered. So they'd still have KP of 5, while angels could protect 4. Even if both angels stacked, the priest would still die. (unless I'm overlooking something) So unless we manage to lynch someone today that reduces mafia KP (unlikely), if the priest were publicly known, mafia could still stack kills and take care of him. There's only two ways this could actually help the town. If someone managed to create some absolutely flawless, that has us all believing, fake analysis on who the priest is, but it's actually a townie. Mafia/angels stack hits/protection, and one townie dies for the night. But I don't see anyway that could actually happen, as finding a townie that isn't mafia/blue, and then linking the fake clues to them would be kinda tough, and I doubt that mafia would buy it enough to stack all their hits. The other way it would help the town is more or less the same: Causing mafia to stack as many hits as possible, thus lowering the deaths for the night, but they'd only stack hits if they were pretty sure they were hitting a valuable target (the priest). And the bad far outweighs the good there. At the moment, the town is moving pretty slow, and we really need MBH to guide us. If the priest dies before MBH is up, we just wasted a day or two, lost our resurrection ability, and one of the best players in the game, who happens to be a confirmed townie. Simply put, there is absolutely no benefit to putting the priest out in the open, as the bad would far outweigh any good that would come from it. Unless mafia is retarded and screwed up the way they stacked hits. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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L
Canada4732 Posts
The KP difference is probably close to .5 or .6 net difference, but the real gem in voting rain would be access to the vote lists tonight. The problem is that we need to organize the current vote in order to maximize the information we're getting and the current vote is tight. I doubt people will want to switch around. | ||
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On July 08 2009 05:18 So no fek wrote: I think either would be viable today, however, if we went with rain, a medic list might be a good idea. List checks could be very helpful (and in extreme cases may more than make up for the +1 KP), but ideally with rain, we'd want to knock the overnight kills to 4, if not even lower, so we make up for the -1 KP for fog. A medic list is only going to give mafia potential targets to kill. Unless they have already figured out the priest or other blue roles. | ||
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
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So no fek
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