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United States2186 Posts
Now for the overall question for the town
a) Should I modkill myself after the lynch (already confirmed that qatol will do this)?
b) Or should the vigilante hit me?
I suggest everyone vote on what you want me to do after Ace dies. I am determined to prove my innocence in the most direct manner but I don't want this lynch to be wasted on me.
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On May 21 2009 11:13 Bockit wrote:
It's pretty crystal clear simply if Ver flips red, who we all suspect anyway. That information doesn't require Ace to be flipped.
Not really, that's the problem. If we only get information on Ver there's plenty of room for valid actions coming from both town and mafia with respect to both of the voting lists.
WE NEED THE INFORMATION.
Also, Ver, I really don't care if you're innocent. I need your information. I'm not going to stop asking that you get Vig after we kill Ace, or get doubled after we kill Ace.
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On May 21 2009 11:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
he may be the only one who believes ace is mafia, however, he could easily be traitor, or a retard towny. The longer the ace/L fighting continues the longer the town will be in chaos. As such we should off ace tonight as he is a suspect to put an end to it all.
WHAT?!!
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On May 21 2009 11:15 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 11:08 L wrote:On May 21 2009 10:56 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 10:44 L wrote:On May 21 2009 10:40 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 10:34 L wrote:On May 21 2009 10:30 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 10:18 L wrote:
How? Ace would be the least scrutinizable individual in the game: he's got a group of followers that have consistently defended him since day 1, cannot be rolechecked, and cannot even be looked at during a double lynch. You don't need a role check to identify him with time (you can't fake away clues even if you can fake behavior) and I'm quite sure that if those defending him were not Mafia, they would stop doing so in the face of clear evidence. If not, then you were right. On May 21 2009 10:18 L wrote:
This is the equivalent of the argument we made for Qatol earlier: "Well, its cool, we'll just kill him a turn later if we find out something's fishy" in the face of a mountain of evidence against him. You're either making the assumption that there is a mountain of evidence against Ace right now that nobody is seeing except you or that there will be a mountain of evidence later with which town will do nothing with. I'm guessing the former. I don't think there's really anything constructive to say if either option is correct, though. I didn't say we needed a role check. I said he's the least scrutinizable player in the game. Is that correct or not? No rolecheck. Large bandwagon behind him. Cannot vote for him until day 5 or vig hit if we do back to back double lynches. Consistently contradictory posts. Has supported mafia players in the past. The target of a massive voteswing. I mean, 2+2. There's evidence. First, the so-called large bandwagon behind him is pretty small to the very consistent core that voted Ver in and people can defend Ace without being die-hard about it. Like me, right now. Second, the "cannot vote for him" bit is incorrect, unless you assume that we can't vote for him because he'd pardon whoever the other person was. Which is incorrect. I haven't seen that many contradictory posts and I'm not sure what you mean by his having supported mafia players in the past, unless you somehow have them figured out already. Finally, the massive voteswing you're talking about happened because of the Nemy situation. Nemy was close to being pushed into a position and many players did not like that, so there was a movement to vote in either Mynock or Ace in behind Ver. Ace ended up being the one that got the votes. MTF, we already 100% agreed that if Ace is mafia and he's going down, its always in his best interest to pardon the other player, mafia or not. If both Ver and Ace are mafia, your analysis of the 'large bandwagon' is consistent with what most mafia players would do in the current situation. Drop Ver, switch to Ace. And regardless of the nemY situation, if Ace flips red, the voteswing is a voteswing. THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TELL WHICH SIDE HE'S ON. I agree with everything in the first two sentences. The problem is they are complete "what if" situations to you. For the third, however...Help me understand this. Assume that you are right, and Ace is Mafia. Why would Mafia not have voted him in sooner or secured him a strong spot in the election earlier on, so as to avoid the very suspicion you are putting on him? Was Nemy just a convenient cover for a sudden five-six votes to switch over to him? And assuming further that both are mafia: Was the plan just to get Ver in first and then the Nemy situation happened, so they figured, hell, why not try to get both of them in? Or was Nemy an intentional part of it? See the problem I have with your scenario? Why would Mafia not have voted him in sooner? Because mafia already HAD him in prior to nemY. Ver had a commanding lead, showtime had like 3 votes and Ace was sitting above that. No point stacking people on, might as well sprinkle mafia on other targets to lay low. When nemY happened, mafia didn't 'want' to have to voteswing Ace in, but nemY's candidacy forced some people to switch to him. Obviously you examine each voter independantly, but there are a number of late Ace voters that are fishy. Tricode, for instance, has been either been playing consistently stupid (and given last game I sadly concede that he's potentially that stupid without ulterior motives. So what do I do regarding a player like tricode? How do I crack his motivations? Well, I need date from Ace to complete the picture. Basically you're saying "mafia could have done many things" which is true. What doesn't change, however, is that mafia will push their members into office given a chance, and during this election there was clearly an opportunity go go x2 office, which is why I think we should prepare for that possibility. You know you're getting on my nervs. Keep me out of your stupid tangents and raves. You have brought my name quite a few times with a few insults here and there. If you can take some consideration, my last game was the first time I was ever townie. Before that I was just thrown into mafia with out a shit of a clue in what to do. Now if you would like to call me stupid this game. I would like you to present me with some sort of reasoning, other wise stop being a emotional cry baby about how since I didn't agree with you early on in the game = me being stupid.
Why would you get offended that I call you stupid when you admit it a phrase before complaining about it?
Derp Derp.
Its the content of your posts rather than your position that make me think you're a dumb shit. Ace disagrees with me but I think he's being very smart about how he presents his arguments (or lack thereof). You, on the other hand? Dumb.
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On May 21 2009 11:15 Ver wrote:
Now for the overall question for the town
a) Should I modkill myself after the lynch (already confirmed that qatol will do this)?
b) Or should the vigilante hit me?
I suggest everyone vote on what you want me to do after Ace dies. I am determined to prove my innocence in the most direct manner but I don't want this lynch to be wasted on me.
If you've determined that you're going to die anyway, why does it matter if you get lynched today or not?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 21 2009 11:21 MTF wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 11:15 Ver wrote:
Now for the overall question for the town
a) Should I modkill myself after the lynch (already confirmed that qatol will do this)?
b) Or should the vigilante hit me?
I suggest everyone vote on what you want me to do after Ace dies. I am determined to prove my innocence in the most direct manner but I don't want this lynch to be wasted on me. If you've determined that you're going to die anyway, why does it matter if you get lynched today or not?
It's a wasted lynch - which we could put to better use (ie killing ace)
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On May 21 2009 11:22 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 11:21 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 11:15 Ver wrote:
Now for the overall question for the town
a) Should I modkill myself after the lynch (already confirmed that qatol will do this)?
b) Or should the vigilante hit me?
I suggest everyone vote on what you want me to do after Ace dies. I am determined to prove my innocence in the most direct manner but I don't want this lynch to be wasted on me. If you've determined that you're going to die anyway, why does it matter if you get lynched today or not? It's a wasted lynch - which we could put to better use (ie killing ace)
He's assuming that we're going to kill Ace tonight and then kill him immediately after, so that reasoning doesn't make any sense at all.
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MTF, say we lynch ver today. DO NOT ASSUME THE VIG WILL HIT ACE
So, we have a double lynch tommorrow. Ace will most likely be on said lynch list, we pair him up with X.
Ace to be a spiteful dick will pardon X and just die himself, wasting our lynch.
Get that ability out of the way first.
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On May 21 2009 11:23 MTF wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 11:22 Plexa wrote:On May 21 2009 11:21 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 11:15 Ver wrote:
Now for the overall question for the town
a) Should I modkill myself after the lynch (already confirmed that qatol will do this)?
b) Or should the vigilante hit me?
I suggest everyone vote on what you want me to do after Ace dies. I am determined to prove my innocence in the most direct manner but I don't want this lynch to be wasted on me. If you've determined that you're going to die anyway, why does it matter if you get lynched today or not? It's a wasted lynch - which we could put to better use (ie killing ace) He's assuming that we're going to kill Ace tonight and then kill him immediately after, so that reasoning doesn't make any sense at all.
As a town, thats basically whats been discusssed the last two days, kill one, then the other to get the information we need.
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On May 21 2009 11:15 Ver wrote:
b) Or should the vigilante hit me?
If you're actually a veteran why would we waste the vig hit on you?
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On May 21 2009 11:24 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:If you're actually a veteran why would we waste the vig hit on you?
It proves his role, means the town sees that he is infact a blue and rallies behind him
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So Plexa does have a voice after all. Why do you think Ace is mafia?
As for Ver's post, I really don't know what to make of it until after the lynch.
I'm really confused as to why you would withhold this information from us for this long. Wake up!
All of us are playing bad.
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On May 21 2009 11:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 11:24 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On May 21 2009 11:15 Ver wrote:
b) Or should the vigilante hit me?
If you're actually a veteran why would we waste the vig hit on you? It proves his role, means the town sees that he is infact a blue and rallies behind him
And then he has only 1 night life left, our vig hit is gone, and it's easier for the mafia to kill him. And it means the medic pretty much has to protect Ver, no?
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On May 21 2009 11:20 L wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 11:15 Tricode wrote:On May 21 2009 11:08 L wrote:On May 21 2009 10:56 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 10:44 L wrote:On May 21 2009 10:40 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 10:34 L wrote:On May 21 2009 10:30 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 10:18 L wrote:
How? Ace would be the least scrutinizable individual in the game: he's got a group of followers that have consistently defended him since day 1, cannot be rolechecked, and cannot even be looked at during a double lynch. You don't need a role check to identify him with time (you can't fake away clues even if you can fake behavior) and I'm quite sure that if those defending him were not Mafia, they would stop doing so in the face of clear evidence. If not, then you were right. On May 21 2009 10:18 L wrote:
This is the equivalent of the argument we made for Qatol earlier: "Well, its cool, we'll just kill him a turn later if we find out something's fishy" in the face of a mountain of evidence against him. You're either making the assumption that there is a mountain of evidence against Ace right now that nobody is seeing except you or that there will be a mountain of evidence later with which town will do nothing with. I'm guessing the former. I don't think there's really anything constructive to say if either option is correct, though. I didn't say we needed a role check. I said he's the least scrutinizable player in the game. Is that correct or not? No rolecheck. Large bandwagon behind him. Cannot vote for him until day 5 or vig hit if we do back to back double lynches. Consistently contradictory posts. Has supported mafia players in the past. The target of a massive voteswing. I mean, 2+2. There's evidence. First, the so-called large bandwagon behind him is pretty small to the very consistent core that voted Ver in and people can defend Ace without being die-hard about it. Like me, right now. Second, the "cannot vote for him" bit is incorrect, unless you assume that we can't vote for him because he'd pardon whoever the other person was. Which is incorrect. I haven't seen that many contradictory posts and I'm not sure what you mean by his having supported mafia players in the past, unless you somehow have them figured out already. Finally, the massive voteswing you're talking about happened because of the Nemy situation. Nemy was close to being pushed into a position and many players did not like that, so there was a movement to vote in either Mynock or Ace in behind Ver. Ace ended up being the one that got the votes. MTF, we already 100% agreed that if Ace is mafia and he's going down, its always in his best interest to pardon the other player, mafia or not. If both Ver and Ace are mafia, your analysis of the 'large bandwagon' is consistent with what most mafia players would do in the current situation. Drop Ver, switch to Ace. And regardless of the nemY situation, if Ace flips red, the voteswing is a voteswing. THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TELL WHICH SIDE HE'S ON. I agree with everything in the first two sentences. The problem is they are complete "what if" situations to you. For the third, however...Help me understand this. Assume that you are right, and Ace is Mafia. Why would Mafia not have voted him in sooner or secured him a strong spot in the election earlier on, so as to avoid the very suspicion you are putting on him? Was Nemy just a convenient cover for a sudden five-six votes to switch over to him? And assuming further that both are mafia: Was the plan just to get Ver in first and then the Nemy situation happened, so they figured, hell, why not try to get both of them in? Or was Nemy an intentional part of it? See the problem I have with your scenario? Why would Mafia not have voted him in sooner? Because mafia already HAD him in prior to nemY. Ver had a commanding lead, showtime had like 3 votes and Ace was sitting above that. No point stacking people on, might as well sprinkle mafia on other targets to lay low. When nemY happened, mafia didn't 'want' to have to voteswing Ace in, but nemY's candidacy forced some people to switch to him. Obviously you examine each voter independantly, but there are a number of late Ace voters that are fishy. Tricode, for instance, has been either been playing consistently stupid (and given last game I sadly concede that he's potentially that stupid without ulterior motives. So what do I do regarding a player like tricode? How do I crack his motivations? Well, I need date from Ace to complete the picture. Basically you're saying "mafia could have done many things" which is true. What doesn't change, however, is that mafia will push their members into office given a chance, and during this election there was clearly an opportunity go go x2 office, which is why I think we should prepare for that possibility. You know you're getting on my nervs. Keep me out of your stupid tangents and raves. You have brought my name quite a few times with a few insults here and there. If you can take some consideration, my last game was the first time I was ever townie. Before that I was just thrown into mafia with out a shit of a clue in what to do. Now if you would like to call me stupid this game. I would like you to present me with some sort of reasoning, other wise stop being a emotional cry baby about how since I didn't agree with you early on in the game = me being stupid. Why would you get offended that I call you stupid when you admit it a phrase before complaining about it? Derp Derp. Its the content of your posts rather than your position that make me think you're a dumb shit. Ace disagrees with me but I think he's being very smart about how he presents his arguments (or lack thereof). You, on the other hand? Dumb.
What the hell are you talking about? Dude, i have been reading your posts about me, if you have a problem with what i have to say, have some reasonable argument and how it is stupid.
It's not that I'm really offended I'm more annoyed with the crap you have to say. Also last that I checked, I seen more people calling you a dumb ass rather then me ;p .
I also never admited about me being stupid. So i don't know what you are talking about. Either learn to read or stop saying crap.
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On May 21 2009 11:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 11:24 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On May 21 2009 11:15 Ver wrote:
b) Or should the vigilante hit me?
If you're actually a veteran why would we waste the vig hit on you? It proves his role, means the town sees that he is infact a blue and rallies behind him
which would mean shit because he wants to modkill himself.
Derp Derp.
How much cock has Ver given you in those PMs? This plus your last post about "yea, lets just kill Ace anyway" doesn't sound like a good look for you buddy.
Hey wait a sec - didn't you run for Mayor?
oh me, oh my...
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I'm going to bed.
Too much drama.
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On May 21 2009 11:27 Showtime! wrote:
So Plexa does have a voice after all. Why do you think Ace is mafia?
As for Ver's post, I really don't know what to make of it until after the lynch.
I'm really confused as to why you would withhold this information from us for this long. Wake up!
All of us are playing bad.
Oh it's simple really - the time period for lynching ends very soon.
Of course Plexa, Ver and BC all pop out of no where at the same time.
Ver makes some sketchy tl;dr worthy post saying he knows something but UH UH! He ain't explaining how he came to those conclusions! And we won't be able to know his explanations till after I'm dead EVEN though he said he will get himself modkilled. Oh and just to be on the safe side he claimed himself to be a Vet so you guys would be even more hesitant to kill him.
Laughable really.
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On May 21 2009 11:29 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 11:20 L wrote:On May 21 2009 11:15 Tricode wrote:On May 21 2009 11:08 L wrote:On May 21 2009 10:56 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 10:44 L wrote:On May 21 2009 10:40 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 10:34 L wrote:On May 21 2009 10:30 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 10:18 L wrote:
How? Ace would be the least scrutinizable individual in the game: he's got a group of followers that have consistently defended him since day 1, cannot be rolechecked, and cannot even be looked at during a double lynch. You don't need a role check to identify him with time (you can't fake away clues even if you can fake behavior) and I'm quite sure that if those defending him were not Mafia, they would stop doing so in the face of clear evidence. If not, then you were right. On May 21 2009 10:18 L wrote:
This is the equivalent of the argument we made for Qatol earlier: "Well, its cool, we'll just kill him a turn later if we find out something's fishy" in the face of a mountain of evidence against him. You're either making the assumption that there is a mountain of evidence against Ace right now that nobody is seeing except you or that there will be a mountain of evidence later with which town will do nothing with. I'm guessing the former. I don't think there's really anything constructive to say if either option is correct, though. I didn't say we needed a role check. I said he's the least scrutinizable player in the game. Is that correct or not? No rolecheck. Large bandwagon behind him. Cannot vote for him until day 5 or vig hit if we do back to back double lynches. Consistently contradictory posts. Has supported mafia players in the past. The target of a massive voteswing. I mean, 2+2. There's evidence. First, the so-called large bandwagon behind him is pretty small to the very consistent core that voted Ver in and people can defend Ace without being die-hard about it. Like me, right now. Second, the "cannot vote for him" bit is incorrect, unless you assume that we can't vote for him because he'd pardon whoever the other person was. Which is incorrect. I haven't seen that many contradictory posts and I'm not sure what you mean by his having supported mafia players in the past, unless you somehow have them figured out already. Finally, the massive voteswing you're talking about happened because of the Nemy situation. Nemy was close to being pushed into a position and many players did not like that, so there was a movement to vote in either Mynock or Ace in behind Ver. Ace ended up being the one that got the votes. MTF, we already 100% agreed that if Ace is mafia and he's going down, its always in his best interest to pardon the other player, mafia or not. If both Ver and Ace are mafia, your analysis of the 'large bandwagon' is consistent with what most mafia players would do in the current situation. Drop Ver, switch to Ace. And regardless of the nemY situation, if Ace flips red, the voteswing is a voteswing. THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TELL WHICH SIDE HE'S ON. I agree with everything in the first two sentences. The problem is they are complete "what if" situations to you. For the third, however...Help me understand this. Assume that you are right, and Ace is Mafia. Why would Mafia not have voted him in sooner or secured him a strong spot in the election earlier on, so as to avoid the very suspicion you are putting on him? Was Nemy just a convenient cover for a sudden five-six votes to switch over to him? And assuming further that both are mafia: Was the plan just to get Ver in first and then the Nemy situation happened, so they figured, hell, why not try to get both of them in? Or was Nemy an intentional part of it? See the problem I have with your scenario? Why would Mafia not have voted him in sooner? Because mafia already HAD him in prior to nemY. Ver had a commanding lead, showtime had like 3 votes and Ace was sitting above that. No point stacking people on, might as well sprinkle mafia on other targets to lay low. When nemY happened, mafia didn't 'want' to have to voteswing Ace in, but nemY's candidacy forced some people to switch to him. Obviously you examine each voter independantly, but there are a number of late Ace voters that are fishy. Tricode, for instance, has been either been playing consistently stupid (and given last game I sadly concede that he's potentially that stupid without ulterior motives. So what do I do regarding a player like tricode? How do I crack his motivations? Well, I need date from Ace to complete the picture. Basically you're saying "mafia could have done many things" which is true. What doesn't change, however, is that mafia will push their members into office given a chance, and during this election there was clearly an opportunity go go x2 office, which is why I think we should prepare for that possibility. You know you're getting on my nervs. Keep me out of your stupid tangents and raves. You have brought my name quite a few times with a few insults here and there. If you can take some consideration, my last game was the first time I was ever townie. Before that I was just thrown into mafia with out a shit of a clue in what to do. Now if you would like to call me stupid this game. I would like you to present me with some sort of reasoning, other wise stop being a emotional cry baby about how since I didn't agree with you early on in the game = me being stupid. Why would you get offended that I call you stupid when you admit it a phrase before complaining about it? Derp Derp. Its the content of your posts rather than your position that make me think you're a dumb shit. Ace disagrees with me but I think he's being very smart about how he presents his arguments (or lack thereof). You, on the other hand? Dumb. What the hell are you talking about? Dude, i have been reading your posts about me, if you have a problem with what i have to say, have some reasonable argument and how it is stupid. It's not that I'm really offended I'm more annoyed with the crap you have to say. Also last that I checked, I seen more people calling you a dumb ass rather then me ;p . I also never admited about me being stupid. So i don't know what you are talking about. Either learn to read or stop saying crap.
Ok lol. Better hope they dont' both turn red.
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On May 21 2009 11:34 L wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 11:29 Tricode wrote:On May 21 2009 11:20 L wrote:On May 21 2009 11:15 Tricode wrote:On May 21 2009 11:08 L wrote:On May 21 2009 10:56 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 10:44 L wrote:On May 21 2009 10:40 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 10:34 L wrote:On May 21 2009 10:30 MTF wrote:
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You don't need a role check to identify him with time (you can't fake away clues even if you can fake behavior) and I'm quite sure that if those defending him were not Mafia, they would stop doing so in the face of clear evidence. If not, then you were right.
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You're either making the assumption that there is a mountain of evidence against Ace right now that nobody is seeing except you or that there will be a mountain of evidence later with which town will do nothing with. I'm guessing the former. I don't think there's really anything constructive to say if either option is correct, though. I didn't say we needed a role check. I said he's the least scrutinizable player in the game. Is that correct or not? No rolecheck. Large bandwagon behind him. Cannot vote for him until day 5 or vig hit if we do back to back double lynches. Consistently contradictory posts. Has supported mafia players in the past. The target of a massive voteswing. I mean, 2+2. There's evidence. First, the so-called large bandwagon behind him is pretty small to the very consistent core that voted Ver in and people can defend Ace without being die-hard about it. Like me, right now. Second, the "cannot vote for him" bit is incorrect, unless you assume that we can't vote for him because he'd pardon whoever the other person was. Which is incorrect. I haven't seen that many contradictory posts and I'm not sure what you mean by his having supported mafia players in the past, unless you somehow have them figured out already. Finally, the massive voteswing you're talking about happened because of the Nemy situation. Nemy was close to being pushed into a position and many players did not like that, so there was a movement to vote in either Mynock or Ace in behind Ver. Ace ended up being the one that got the votes. MTF, we already 100% agreed that if Ace is mafia and he's going down, its always in his best interest to pardon the other player, mafia or not. If both Ver and Ace are mafia, your analysis of the 'large bandwagon' is consistent with what most mafia players would do in the current situation. Drop Ver, switch to Ace. And regardless of the nemY situation, if Ace flips red, the voteswing is a voteswing. THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TELL WHICH SIDE HE'S ON. I agree with everything in the first two sentences. The problem is they are complete "what if" situations to you. For the third, however...Help me understand this. Assume that you are right, and Ace is Mafia. Why would Mafia not have voted him in sooner or secured him a strong spot in the election earlier on, so as to avoid the very suspicion you are putting on him? Was Nemy just a convenient cover for a sudden five-six votes to switch over to him? And assuming further that both are mafia: Was the plan just to get Ver in first and then the Nemy situation happened, so they figured, hell, why not try to get both of them in? Or was Nemy an intentional part of it? See the problem I have with your scenario? Why would Mafia not have voted him in sooner? Because mafia already HAD him in prior to nemY. Ver had a commanding lead, showtime had like 3 votes and Ace was sitting above that. No point stacking people on, might as well sprinkle mafia on other targets to lay low. When nemY happened, mafia didn't 'want' to have to voteswing Ace in, but nemY's candidacy forced some people to switch to him. Obviously you examine each voter independantly, but there are a number of late Ace voters that are fishy. Tricode, for instance, has been either been playing consistently stupid (and given last game I sadly concede that he's potentially that stupid without ulterior motives. So what do I do regarding a player like tricode? How do I crack his motivations? Well, I need date from Ace to complete the picture. Basically you're saying "mafia could have done many things" which is true. What doesn't change, however, is that mafia will push their members into office given a chance, and during this election there was clearly an opportunity go go x2 office, which is why I think we should prepare for that possibility. You know you're getting on my nervs. Keep me out of your stupid tangents and raves. You have brought my name quite a few times with a few insults here and there. If you can take some consideration, my last game was the first time I was ever townie. Before that I was just thrown into mafia with out a shit of a clue in what to do. Now if you would like to call me stupid this game. I would like you to present me with some sort of reasoning, other wise stop being a emotional cry baby about how since I didn't agree with you early on in the game = me being stupid. Why would you get offended that I call you stupid when you admit it a phrase before complaining about it? Derp Derp. Its the content of your posts rather than your position that make me think you're a dumb shit. Ace disagrees with me but I think he's being very smart about how he presents his arguments (or lack thereof). You, on the other hand? Dumb. What the hell are you talking about? Dude, i have been reading your posts about me, if you have a problem with what i have to say, have some reasonable argument and how it is stupid. It's not that I'm really offended I'm more annoyed with the crap you have to say. Also last that I checked, I seen more people calling you a dumb ass rather then me ;p . I also never admited about me being stupid. So i don't know what you are talking about. Either learn to read or stop saying crap. Ok lol. Better hope they dont' both turn red.
Meh, if are going to kill them both, i hope they both turn red. I rather not waste time killing an innocent. I don't really want to help the mafia out.
Though if one of them do turn to be townie, what should we say about you? Seems like you're a bit trigger happy buddy, ready to kill anyone that didn't agree with you eh?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
The reason I think Ace is mafia/traitor is that this is exactly how he behaved when we were mafia together  whether or not this behavior came up in other games im not sure. But from my experiences this is enough for me to think he needs to die
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