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On May 19 2009 08:36 Ver wrote: I just got back. Sorry guys I was at my honors defense (Yes I passed :D). Last night I didn't want to spend any more time on mafia than I did and being feverish I just did a coin flip bo7 between Infinity21 and Amber[light]. Infinity won 4-1 so that was that. I had a few more ambitious lynches but I didn't have the time to contact Ace and I figured he'd be okay with lynching a noncontributer. 0cz3c your list sucks. Not only is it useless but contradictory and inaccurate. At the very least I want the colored text back! I'll update mine in a bit though. Despite Ace's silly criticism based on some newbie implementation I still believe it is a valid way to make my opinions known and inject some chaos. I thought the idea was awesome when I saw you post that thing last game and so far it's been quite successful ^_^ Not much else to say for the night though. I disagree with Ace's dt list in needing to RC those three mayoral candidates but that can wait till later when we have more evidence. The most pressing thing I want to know is how many mafia candidates ran. 0, 1, or 2. I originally thought there were 2, Mynock and Ace. One of my associates thought that as well. But Ace's response to me calling him out was exactly what I expected if he was innocent. Mynock, not so much, and I'm pretty questioning of him still (imo primary dt suspect). The useful part with this is that once we know we can clear everyone else because mafia is not going to have that many candidates running. Game history says that any time a mafia candidate has run, they have always gotten a position. Randombum got pardonner in mafia 2, MTF got mayor in mafia 4, and Qatol got mayor last game. My vote switching shenanigans were in an attempt to isolate the mafia voters or figure out potential mafia candidates. I'm still not certain on Ace/Mynock and they have to prove themselves but I feel a bit better than I did before. Caller BC and Showtime are almost assuredly innocent based on votes. If anyone has any insight on this I'd much appreciate it. Town needs to talk more, as I was pretty annoyed that almost nobody responded to my queries for targets last night. L is doing a great job of adding confusion and chaos while distracting us from our tasks. As for tomorrows lynches, more will be clear when we see who's dead. Mafia either have to blue snipe or target who they feel is the most dangerous. But if they do the latter the mafia will reveal themselves quickly (this is why I only blue sniped last game). See, here's the problem with what you said: "inject some chaos." Yeah. That's a job for the mafia. You're right. My list did suck. I'll be updating it shortly. Edit: I would also like everyone to know that I was a serious candidate for mayor; therefore, DTs definitely ought to scan me. | ||
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1. Caller - 36% 2. Incognito - 34% 3. scamp - 14% 4. scaramanga - 0% 5. bloodyc0bbler - 31% 6. fishball - 19% 7. nemy - 78% 8. fusionsdf - 67% 9. Ver - 100% 10. bockit - 0% 11. plexa - 70% 12. camlito - 82% 13. showtime! - 20% 14. mikeymoo - 45% 15. dreamflower - 47% 16. ace - 9% 17. infundibulum - 43% 18. vivi57 - 38% 19. mynock - 28% 20. lucaswoj - 35% 21. amber[light] - 39% 22. rebirthoflegend - 0% 23. MTF - 0% 24. 0cz3c - 0% 25. infinity21 - 87% 26. heavonearth - 95% 27. Tricode - 0% 28. Malongo - 0% 29. MrBabyHands - 69% 30. L - 63% 31??? LTT 1% Chances that the person is NOT mafia (plus/minus say...2 percentage points) 1. Caller - 64% 2. Incognito - 66% 3. scamp - 86% 4. scaramanga - 100% 5. bloodyc0bbler - 69% 6. fishball - 50% 7. nemy - 36% 8. fusionsdf - 70% 9. Ver - 0% 10. bockit - 100% 11. plexa - 17% 12. camlito - 43% 13. showtime! - 19% 14. mikeymoo - 61% 15. dreamflower - 54% 16. ace - 91% 17. infundibulum - 85% 18. vivi57 - 42% 19. mynock - 28% 20. lucaswoj - 68% 21. amber[light] - 59% 22. rebirthoflegend - 100% 23. MTF - 100% 24. 0cz3c - 100% 25. infinity21 - ~30% 26. heavonearth - 23% 27. Tricode - 100% 28. Malongo - 100% 29. MrBabyHands - 25% 30. L - 34% 31???! LTT - 99% | ||
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On May 20 2009 06:05 Ace wrote: He's not a confirmed DT stop saying that nonsense. Ok. I get what you're saying. To the gallows with Nemy! | ||
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On May 20 2009 08:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: double Y Ace N Vig hit Ace N Qatol thinks very very very similarly to how I do. Which means he is most likely taking clues to a similar level to what I would (not the same but similar levels of obvious if you know how hes getting clues, till then insanely hard). Dreamflower would almost be impossible to catch unless a theme of oscar wilde himself was used (note he was believed to be bisexual). Hey that would go with rape. Hey! No need to insult Qatol. | ||
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On May 20 2009 08:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You do realize last game the only person to successfully clue link ANYONE in my game was the guy who googled right? because its how i got my clues? half the time profiles are so vague you can't do a clue without being so obvious it hurts, google makes it less obvious I tend to think that Qatol and LTT are far more sophisticated than that. | ||
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On May 20 2009 08:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Oh wow, i wonder, If i was red, with two bgs, someone town almost was believing was dt, and then apparently a med, i wonder, i think id kill a bg, med and dt. Killing both bgs would get me put into the spotlight insanely quickly. So sorry if i give credit to people who are intelligent. Both ver and ace are smarter than that when they (if red) have tools to discredit eachother without killing bgs. Unless, of course, the killings were random. Not mere oversights! | ||
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I also propose that I be the sole party running. Votes? Agreements? Dissent? | ||
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On May 20 2009 09:00 HeavOnEarth wrote: *anxiously awaits the next lynch results* Naturally. For what else could a mafia hope? | ||
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Useless posts by RebirthOfLegend. Wonder what happened. | ||
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On May 20 2009 10:32 Ace wrote: Nope L, normally I'd be fine with dying but I believe the town is so collectively stupid I refuse. Not this time. But what if Nemy is blue? ! | ||
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I will be updating numbers soon. The results, needless to say, are extremely interesting. | ||
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On May 21 2009 16:08 Incognito wrote: Well...since nobody's doing anything useful, I might suggest MBH as a target for viging. He probably should be analyzing by now, and he seems rather unhelpful to me. Other suggestions might be Tricode, 0cz3c, or Malongo? I'm not sure. But we should probably have some discussion. I think if we hit at least a mafia or two with the vigi hit + double lynch it'll give us decent chances  You're a moron. | ||
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Caller RebirthofLegend nemY I may be simply pulling this out of my ass. However, 0cz3c's senses are tingling. | ||
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On May 22 2009 00:14 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: yeah, I was about to say I suggest we vigi hit 0cz3c. Ver's analysis's are usually pretty good and I believe he said all of 0cz3cs above mentioned people are MOST LIKELY innocent. Except me, who he wasn't sure about. 0cz3c, before I even saw his list I thought you were suspicious. 0cz3c's behavior becomes slightly difficult to read because in 3/5 games he was acting retarded (if you were in the games, you know what I mean) and as Ver said before, I suspect that the mafia were lying low for most of the game and just watching us hang ourselves. You posted just enough to not be viewed as inactive, just enough to not help at all, and just enough to fuel some fires. In previous games you did everything you could do to be noticed. Now that you are mafia amid all the sheer chaos that has been going on the last two days, you just tried to stay away from it. Unfortunately the votes list really don't help us because they were both fucking town :/ So that post on page 75 means almost nothing. Now it seems you are trying to start a new wave of shit when NemY can finally try to use his role check within 24 hours if he is a DT, Caller (according to Ver) is most likely innocent. I don't really know, but not much stood out to me. and me, the person who accused you a few pages back and I guess is any easy suspect considering my Zerg rush on to Ace? Who knows. Either way they were both innocent, which makes me feel better about being dumb and guided by the chaos, but also makes the town more in trouble. So L, where are you going from here? I am curious. I think the vigi should just hit 0cz3c. It seems reasonable. Alright. So you're either a mafia, or a moron. If you're a mafia, then your post makes sense. You could also simply be an idiot who takes posts to be at face value. However, I'll side with the fact that you're mafia (Let me remind everyone, however, that I think he's an idiot, too.) Here's why: Did you even read my posts in this topic? If you didn't, then you could be simply a moron. If you did, then there are two possibilities. First, you're just not very good at reading. I mean, you'd have to be REALLY bad not to be able to read. Second, you're mafia. In my posts, folks, AND PLEASE READ THIS, I made sure to stick up for nemY and Caller, because I feel that, almost indisputably, they are innocent. I won't reveal why I know this, and I may be just pulling things out of thin air, but I also don't want mafia to merely see exactly what I'm saying and use that to their advantage. But I guess I have to, since you're mafia....or just brain-dead. I have defended nemy and caller almost from the start. If I said that at least one of the three could be mafia, and I knew for certain that one was, then, who, I ask you, would I be suggesting? YOU. If you're a townie, then, goddamnit, read between the lines. Consider why I had said what I had said. There is a reason. I even said a medic should protect Caller at night. Think before you speak if you're a moron. However, I don't think that you're playing the bumbling fool this game (although let's not kid ourselves: you don't need to "play" a bumbling idiot). Your posts have been crap this game. Utter crap. You've said nothing useful, and you've always been wrong. You have simply ignored all serious allegations against you. And because the town has been focused on Ver and Ace, you have gotten away with it. Accusing me to be vig'd is simply stupid, and I believe the entirety of the town recognizes that. At the start, I was literally the only person making an effort with clue analysis. Of course, it was ignored. Why bother helping a town that simply ignores my posts? It's not worth the effort. I suspect that's why I made an excellent mafia last game, as the majority of the town simply looked past my posts. That's not only detrimental to the town; it's also just plain dumb. Yeah. I feel like I'm playing the Ace card here, and I recognize how ineffective it is, but there simply is no way I could be mafia. You can't even say that Ver's analysis this game is legitimate as he's been playing so poorly. His conclusion that I am mafia (or rather, placing me on a 5/6 or 6/6 list) is wrong. I'll tell you that right now. Lucas is my brother. He would have UNDOUBTEDLY BEEN ABLE TO READ MY REAL FACIAL EXPRESSIONS WHEN BRING FORTH AN INQUISITION. HE WOULD HAVE TOLD SOMEONE. Don't merely be a jackass (and this includes Ver). Ver, have you ever played mafia with a person you've known for 24 hours of a day for 17 years? How about you RoL? No? Haven't seen how obvious it is to tell whether a person is lying based on so many past experiences? No? Then shut up. You're merely derailing the progress of the town. In all fairness, I didn't think my brother was a BG. I thought he was a medic. I felt convinced that we was protecting somebody. Apparently that much was right. By the way, I asked you a question to which you never responded. It was an incriminating question, and you refused it's answer. L answered for you. You're more suspicious on my list than anyone else, but, then again, it's always really tough to tell when you're in the mafia, because every game you decide to be stupid. I'm not an idiot; I'm merely mocking the tones or words of another when he/she is being ridiculous. But I'm sure you look past that. By the way I've never used this strategy when mafia. Why would I? It's the most incriminating thing I could do. The fact that I can write in coherent sentence, something which you, unfortunately, cannot do, should suggest to you that I'm smarter than that. Why the hell would I put myself into the open when I recognize that I don't have to? You guys clearly just ignore me either way. And bear in mind that this is a veteran's game. I'm playing with people who have seen me act this way, and have gotten news of my tendencies. The fact that Ver suspects me as a mafia (or rather suspected) shows to me how poor he is in analyzing what's in front of him correctly (although, I suspect, it's simply that he doesn't have the time he needs). Behaviorally, therefore, I'm playing the game I ALWAYS DO WHEN I'M A TOWNIE. In relation to Lucas, there is only my innocence, and that should be transparent even to idiots. Clue wise? Well, let's not kid ourselves. Although LTT and Qatol are doing a fantastic job at writing well, you're choosing to look past them. I doubt you could find anything sufficient linking to me? Actually, I'm confident. You know why? It's not there, because I'm not mafia. In fact, to all: anyone who does suggest any clues should be lynched after my death (and by that time, you will sufficiently know that my role is one helpful to you). It doesn't seem reasonable to vigi me. You know why I voted for Ver? He was playing very poorly, and Mynock was willing to put himself on the chopping block. I initially vote for Ace as mayor, because I assumed that he would play fairly well. But no, that hasn't happened. The only person I think who's actually making a decent effort this game is L, and, if he is indeed mafia, he has me totally fooled. But what troubles me most is the fact that you even bothered to reply to my post. You usually ignore things, probably because, as you just showed, you can't present any reasonable argument (it's more of a plea ("I think")). There's no reason in those keys typing useless posts. Ace even said at one point (which I said to myself as I was reading it), "Useless" when reading your posts. The only explanation for why you bothered to post is that you panicked. You almost certainly didn't have to. But then again, you could have merely been a stupid townie. I won't ask the vigilante to kill RoL. It's not confirmed by any means that he's a mafia. We need that one kill. Therefore, I ask the vigilante to think on his own grounds. I feel that he's mafia, but, if I'm wrong, then we've essentially wasted a shot. And the fact that RoL is among the darkest bulbs on the Christmas convinces me that pulling the trigger preemptively (i.e., now) might be a mistake. Let's substitute RoL's impulse with reason, and let's think for a moment. I'll probably post some more stuff after I finish my papers (which, in case you're wondering, is the reason I haven't been entirely active. I attend a difficult institution, which means that until 4/5 PM, I don't have access to the Internet; furthermore, from 4/5 until I go to sleep, I have my hands full studying, doing homework, and preparing for classes the next day. If you would see through my posts, you'd notice the undeniable consistency of what I just said. (Look at the time. Don't worry: no words, for I know you can't read; only numbers. Then again, since you can't read, you won't read this post either. /sigh) | ||
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