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For now I'd just like to say it's strange to me why most of the people jumped on the vote-for-Qatol bandwagon so eagerly. All the other candidates (and good candidates are in there, may I add) barely got a vote or two. But I suppose there's nothing too suspicious about it yet, seeing as how Town probably just wants something new, and Ace was just way too lazy in his "campaign" Looks like Qatol has it won anyway, so I'll just abstain so as not to make the bandwagon any bigger. | ||
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It's only what's expected from Showtime!, since that's how he played himself in pretty much every other Mafia game. My advice is, he should be completely ignored. He provides no info or logic whatsoever, only confusion. And confusion only helps Mafia, be it themselves who spread it, or a silly townie. | ||
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On April 24 2009 00:12 Showtime! wrote: Told you he was clean. Mynock considering I never played with you. Arrogance is bliss. I have nothing to prove to anyone and I don't feel like posting every PM; action; and thought process I made on each decision. Everything I do is well mapped out in my head. With that said, I didn't randomly pick players to be checked. 1. There is a reason why I ran for Mayor. 2. There is a reason why I believe it is in the Town's best interest that I be checked sooner rather than later. ALL of this would be VOID if and ONLY if I'm the Godfather, which is fairly low. I am more than capable of organizing a core, but you guys have to do your part as well. You Never played with me? I don't have the time to check up all the games we've played in, but it's a few (Mafia 2 comes to mind, where we had like exactly the same situation with you vs me, lol). Every Mafia game u behave pretty erratically and in a confusing fashion, and this time it's no different. | ||
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On April 26 2009 12:51 Qatol wrote: I am trying to be VERY generous with the term "inactive" but have made another list. For god's sake people. Don't join this game if you can't say anything. Here is the list of inactives: People on the list who voted: List of people with 1 one-liner post, but posted SOMETHING: List of people I consider to be exceptions due to school: You're a bit too quick to write me off as inactive there. Not only did I say I have very limited time to check this thread, I'm actually checking it . And I've posted, too. Anyway, I'm not a fan of lynching on 1-2 days worth of clues (and I can't interpret clues anyway), but if I had to choose, my choice would fall on JeeJee, as explained by several people before me (behavioural pattern, Bockit-PMs, clues...). | ||
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On April 26 2009 22:36 mikeymoo wrote: Regarding Monoxide, I can let the town know this (I know him irl, but we don't live in the same city anymore). He was done finals a couple days ago, and had the whole of yesterday to post. I'm pretty sure he's reading the thread, as he keeps asking me over msn if I've read mafia or how the game is going etc etc. In previous discussions I've had with him, he tells me how OP mafia is, and how easy it would be to win with red alignment. His mind games are very strong, so although he's not posting, he's both a liability and an asset (depending on his alignment, obviously). If he checks TL, it's probably in the afternoon at his time, so in roughly 6 hours I'd imagine. I shot him a PM to tell him to get active and explain himself, essentially. I think I played one game with him and he never asked how the game was going or what not. He wasn't mafia that game. I don't think the evidence is insurmountable, but it's something to keep in mind. At this point in time, I'd lean towards behaviour analysis moreso than clue analysis. Those are some good points, and cast quite a shadow over Monoxide. But obviously we first have to hear his version of the story. | ||
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What do you think of the alignment of some of the people pressing a double lynch for tomorrow? Do you find any of them to more likely be mafia than the rest? Which ones and why? This question can be answered by anyone who opposes the double lynch really, those were just the first two people in the voting thread who spoke out against it so I find their opinion more genuine than others who posted later who may just have been following.[/QUOTE] Herd mentality mostly. If anything, I'd say they're not suspicious, because it's probably a green vanilla Townie trying to see some action and execute what powers he's got. That's my take on the matter tho, I could be wrong. | ||
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On April 30 2009 06:04 Versatile wrote: cremation. scatter my ashes into the Atlantic please. I thought you'd want them scattered around Ace's house. Anyway, Town might not be as inactive as it seems, people might just be waiting for Cob to get his things together... | ||
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Vivi57 Qatol GJ vigis! Rarely do I get the pleasure to play with such a foolish town. On another note: I wanted to make a post about Ace and Qatol and whatnot, but before I knew it, it's the next day already. A bit too soon | ||
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On May 02 2009 18:49 Vivi57 wrote: Meh, I've been so lazy about this game. when I get the chance, I'm going to do some clue analysis and try to build on what we have. It's just so hard to get myself to do this knowing that last game, we didn't get a single mafia through clue analysis. Did everyone miss this? The strongest link to Qatol isn't a clue towards him. Is the lynch based off vengence or just not caring? Is there actually anything to go on for this lynch? Shhh! You're next in line, wait your turn. | ||
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On May 04 2009 06:10 GoodWill wrote: I feel we have not stressed enough of the fact that somebody betrayed 2 detectives on day2. The only real possibility I see is that they gave up their identity to Qatol, the Mayor. Speaking of the Mayor, in this game, there's no way to positively validate the mayor's innocence. Yes he won't die from mafias until all his bodyguards are dead, but what good is that when he can be a mafia himself, and from what I have observed, this mayor in particular is now the no.1 suspect. What's worse is that he's using his 3 votes privilege to get help himself by voting the next lynch candidate, Quickstriker. Now, Quickstirker is also a strong suspect imo. And it won't surprise me if he turns out red because a) a mafia mayor is much more valuable than a mafia henchman b) Qatol can gain some trust this way c) it was already a two-way contest between Qatol and Quickstriker by the time Qatol first responded, it was his best bet to save himself. Let's not forget all the other clues (especially behavior-wise, how he has never been able to nail a mafia and that Ace and Ver were highly suspicious of him). By lynching Qatol, we will have more information gained than from lynching any other suspects. Wow a voice of reason in this Town! Btw, adding all things up, Ver is either a townie disheartened with Town, or is Mafia, hence the no-posts. I'm suspecting him as Mafia tho. | ||
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Yes, my playing style has changed. Ace said it too, you have to change your style, and I agree with that. I don't intend to keep the same play-style for all the future Mafia games either, and this here is a start. But I simply refuse to play with this Town until Qatol is lynched. We're almost 100% sure he's Mafia, yet Town keeps getting swayed by his will. It's ridiculous. It really is. Caller killing Ace based upon Qatol's suggestion was crazy enough. You then go on and get swayed by him LITERALLY saving his neck by voting away from Qatol on QS. TF? And now Ver somehow accuses anybody voting for Qatol as potential Mafia? Oh, the Town will listen to that too, I'm sure. There was NO logic in hitting Ace. I exchanged a couple PMs with Ace just before he died where I said I'm not really suspicious of him, but actually I was sure he's not Mafia (I know his style somewhat myself, and NO way did that warrant a hit). Lynching QS over Qatol was the icing on the cake. The only positive thing we can find from it, is to look at his hidden supporters (not OPEN supporters, but people who tried to sway the vote away from him WITHOUT directly supporting him in the process), but that's about it. Maybe Malongo think he's not alone, but I think he's an optimist... Here's a thing: there's a reason I was never lynched in any of the previous Mafia games. I don't post stupid stuff. I don't do stupid things. Even when I'm Mafia I just try to play upon logic. That won't change. I don't even read the clue part, I can't figure out those riddles anyway. I try to base everything on behavioural analysis, and logic. And if the Town isn't willing to do the same, I can't do much myself, right? Again, I don't care if Qatol is Mafia or not (but I believe he is). If you think that's strange, you didn't understand my explanations above. | ||
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On May 05 2009 13:19 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Also I think Malongo's protection list needs to be lengthened and updated. This is a list of medic protection candidates.
From what I can remember, these are the only people who have been useful active and seemingly town aligned recently. If anyone else comes to mind I will quote and edit the list. Don't anybody go protecting Ver u guys. | ||
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On May 06 2009 01:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ya dun protect ver, it will prevent mynocks hit from going through. stupid town. Like, duh! | ||
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On May 06 2009 02:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: PSSST..... VIGI HIT THIS MOTHER FUCKER! Isn't it enough that I'll die tonight by a Mafia hit? | ||
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On May 07 2009 06:46 motbob wrote: For us to lynch Qatol, everyone's got to be unified. Maybe that's why we should have lynched him 2 days ago? Check all those people who proposed leaving Qatol and his 3 votes for "later", and try to see if any of the clues match up with them. | ||
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He struggled to raise his head, only to see a flash of colour LucasWoJ: - white, blue, red, red, yellow, green, purple, brown, black, colors! Caller: t_co: I believe Caller's is pretty weak, I also believe his Vigi story. LucasWoJ seems the most fishy. He provided lots of stuff in his profile, and if I was in BC's place, I'd choose one and make it damn obvious. | ||
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Btw, it's a pretty bad sign if you see me clue-analyzing. Means Town is in shit. | ||
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He looked up at the man who walked through the threshold, and saw a visor across his eyes This is Ver. | ||
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On May 07 2009 07:51 Caller wrote: mynock you could be scum here you could be that teeth-like the mynocks from star wars No teeth on a mynock. | ||
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On May 07 2009 08:20 Tricode wrote: @ Mynock Uh, how is that ver? Second, I'll agree with the visor thing for you and LucasWoJ I am putting my analysis together, and I think you might be mafia Mynock, though Lucas might be also. I am going to continue my analysis and then bring it to light. Ver -> see -> visor. I agree it applies to me too tho. | ||
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On May 07 2009 08:31 Tricode wrote: Hey Qatol, isn't uff da something that a clumsy person would say when they trip or something to that extent. At least that's what i am reading in a google search. Amazing. You're still "suspecting" Qatol? | ||
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Relax Qatol, it's just a game. You're not Al Capone. The world won't go down under once your character is out of the game. | ||
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On May 07 2009 08:38 Tricode wrote: @mynock Actually no, I'm voting for him. Though I just mad at myself for not noting that Uff Da before. Then surely you didn't notice when Qatol admitted he's Mafia, right? | ||
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On May 07 2009 08:36 Tricode wrote: I vote for Qatol. (reason) I don't know where Qatol's night 3 medic list game from. but it is freaken odd that it has all the people that were killed that night! Also Uff Da is something someone can say when they do a clumsy act like tripping. Also I do find his decisions odd. (My vote is subject to change) I vote for double lynch (reasoning) I think enough evidence is piling up where we can catch a few more mafia. I want a suicide option next game please. | ||
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Yeah, heard about it, no details tho. I guess no game can be held without one :/ | ||
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On May 07 2009 09:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I'm going to throw this out here now. Remaining town can decide. Do you guys want to call the game now or keep going? Your call. We don't even know the rules we're playing by. If you clarified them enough we could make this decision. If the Mafia have to kill each other eventually that's one thing, if not, that's an other. What are the Mafias winning criteria? | ||
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On May 07 2009 16:17 Qatol wrote: Colors! Mafia + mayor + godfather pretending towny! Anyways, good luck all. I'm not convinced. Don't drop the colours clue guys, this seems fishy as fuck. Also, I'm not sure about RoL, but Malongo seems innocent. I don't blame him for going on the visor clue tho, and, if u think about it, the incomprehensible clue can also be pinned to me, so BC should get some well deserved flame after my death for making such vague clues. Anyway, last lynch kind of proved my point, even while Qatol was parading around and taunting Town, some Townsfolk (Tricode) were still looking for clues to pin down to him. Incrediabulobolous! | ||
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On May 07 2009 21:03 Ace wrote: the game was over the day I died and some really smart guys decided no, Qatol is making good plays even though they still never found a mafia. Actually no it was over far before that when some REALLY smart people decided it was wise to tell players their roles even though there is no way to find out if these people are legit. Why do people do this? Here's my last PM to Incognito (out of about 20 others): "----------------------------------------- Original Message: I obviously wouldn't lie to you since you're out of the game. But it's people who trusted their roles to Qatol for whatever reason, and people thinking they can pin down Mafia by looking for Freudian slips in PMs are the ones responsible for where we are now. Unless Mafia starts killing each other, we're done for. I'm really annoyed by the Town this game." Funny, eh? Btw, Incognito was sure I'm Mafia even before he started probing me with PMs. And then he leaves a msg behind, advising Town that I'm as strong a suspect as Qatol! LOL, this is probably THE worst Town out of all 7 Mafia games we've had so far. | ||
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On May 07 2009 19:10 Ace wrote: I think honestly you guys should just end the game. Give up. As a town you are just so bad it's not even worth reading the game any more. QUIT. Maybe u're right. It's about Alt-q-q time here. It was a pathetic round. Every Townie I had some contact with this game was working AGAINST the Town despite their best intentions. | ||
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On May 07 2009 21:34 Camlito wrote: Too bad you didn't bother reading what i posted after my big post. Hum, I'm not sure I know what post you're referring to. Your post right after your "essay" is: Edit: Oh, but I don't mean EVERY Townie. Just the ones that contacted me, or I contacted them In this thread there were some good points made, not too many people listened to those tho. | ||
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On May 08 2009 00:28 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: don't BS us mynock, I'm obviously not mafia :D there is however WAY too many clues referring to you. In the last day there was the one which seems to reference your name mynock. When I googled that it looked a lot like a bat which I can be associated with vampires and all one person saw was something with sharp teeth before it ripped their throat open. Like I posted previously (look at the pic), mynocks have no teeth . But I agree, several clues can be associated with me. However, if that's all u're going to go by, u're playing this game wrong Doesn't seem like Mafia is going to hit me here since I'm under suspicion. At the end I'll be left on the streets of a dead Town I think Anyway, if I die tonight all I can say is lynch or hit Ver. I have no idea how you guys still let him live, but then again I never understood how you let Qatol use u like a bunch of tools either. | ||
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On May 08 2009 03:57 t_co wrote: Kill Chuiu. Kill Chuiu and Dreamflower. Trust me on this. Both Chuiu and Dreamflower are inactive, among them Chuiu looks like the more fish one. What about Dreamflower? Also, I hope any remaining medics are on Malongo. | ||
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On May 08 2009 05:24 Chuiu wrote: I'm inactive now? I started posting and even voted. Who cares. You were still fishy. Good hit whoever it was. | ||
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On May 08 2009 06:27 Malongo wrote: mmm as the voting on JeeJee doesnt seem to please anyone ill change my vote from JeeJee to L Reason: Ls quote is a :D wich can be undertood as a smile, or a rolling head. JeeJee over L. Behaviour over clues. Always. | ||
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On May 08 2009 06:51 Caller wrote: dude lol none of this would be possible if i didn't hit anybody first of all it was pretty obvious game was over when people were pming roles to qatol second of all, by hitting somebody it gives one a clue as to what BCs clues mean. By hitting Ace, granted there were probably more suspicious people (cough Qatol cough) one could connect clues, ja? In any case, voting random people isn't smart here. Vote for the people with clues, please please please please please I will be voting Monoxide and 3clipse until further notice. Another thing: The same guy that bowled into scamp also "bowled into" BC, "who died a few hours later." Hmm how many hours is a few... 3? Isn't it weird that they BC would specifically say "a few hours later?" Unless we vote for the same guys we're not gonna get anything done here. I can agree with you on the 3clipse thing tho, good call(er)! But if we don't lynch Ver tonight I'm gonna cry here. Don't do this to me now. Ver and 3clipse? Can we all agree on these two? | ||
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On May 08 2009 06:46 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: If majority want to fine end it. Also I got hit last night, I guess scamp was the one who protected me? Thanks if so. Guess I can't find out now. this towns in too much Chaos, but I encourage votes on Mynock and Monoxide. Feel free to interchange one of those with Ver. If we don't get at least one mafia just call the game. I might change my votes if I do some clue analysis. Unless you actually have something on me (Behaviour? Don't think so. Visor? Not anymore. Row of teeth? How many times till u get that mynocks have none?) vote together with everybody else or go your own way and look damn suspicious in the process. | ||
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Sry, u're right, I forgot. | ||
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On May 08 2009 07:14 0cz3c wrote: Malongo, here are my thoughts: Quick question: Why are we voting for 3clipse when all we have are clues on him (and I feel one of them is hardly a clue)? The Ver voting I can understand, since, behaviorally, he's suspicious. In fact, he's third on my list. But 3clipse? We need to get two mafias today, and our evidence against JeeJee is extremely solid. This extreme bandwagoning is irrational. This apparent bandwagoning convinces me that we've lost this game already and mafia is just auto-lynching by vote now. No. 3clipse is inactive and if I ever agreed on clues this would be it. JeeJee is next in line tho, obv. | ||
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Who started the whole double Mafia thing btw? | ||
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You couldn't hide from me. I can't do anything with a Town like this tho gg, wp. | ||
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On May 08 2009 08:08 Malongo wrote: you liar you never miss to play when you are townie. I had you since day 2. no kidding read the thread. And the townies have to learn to play with less pms, thats only help for the mafia. Ver's podium speech was screaming "Hello I'm Mafia, lynch me now!". And yet he survives until game end, iiinnnnnccrreddidbbbllleeee. | ||
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I propose a very different system for whoever wants to host the next game: mandatory posts every day (or a disease will sweep through town, taking inactives, and some Mafia to balance the numbers if necessary), and maybe even leave the whole clue thing out of it. | ||
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Vivi rolechecks mynock" Haha, I knew it! Incognito told me about me being checked and turning up green. Yet Vivi decides to not tell me anything about it, and instead tell it to Qatol. asdasfasf! | ||
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On May 08 2009 08:50 LucasWoJ wrote: L outed himself because we had already coordinated the vote sway. It didn't matter what we did at that point. Doesn't matter if the Town was active 20 vs 8, and next day (20 - kills) vs 6. Inactivity strikes again. | ||
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On May 08 2009 08:52 Qatol wrote: You only survived night 1 because showtime! told me he was NOT protecting you. Messed with my hit list so badly. In that case it's smurfing time for next game. | ||
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I'm thinking of a lot of roles here, but mainly they would be inner stories that add to the character played by a certain player so it promotes communication, both inner and public. For example: Role: Good Twin. Description: You are the good twin, and your brother has turned to the dark path and joined a mafia family. He is your evil twin, you have to find him, and persuade him to stop with his wicked ways. You have the ability "persuade", which you can use only once, and if you use it on the correct target (your evil twin), you will both leave the game (you win, your evil brother loses), if you use it on a wrong target, your ability will simply go to waste. You still win the game if Town wins. Every second night you will receive a little clue as to who your twin is. Role: Evil Twin. Description: You are the evil twin, and you have always despised your brother. You have to find him, and kill him. You better find him before he finds you. If he dies by a hit or lynch or any other means, you're safe from him, but your family still has to win the game for you to win. Every second night you will receive a little clue as to who your twin is. Things like that, basically. A little lore to the game. An otherwise green inactive Townie will have an initiative to play the game and participate in a quest. An otherwise silent Mafia will have to get a bit public and try to find his twin. etc... Obviously there's a lot of roles that can be made up, the key is of course balance, and keeping things interesting. If things are interesting, people are active. Also, 2 (rivaling!) Mafia families seems good. More people with roles, more blues to balance it out, more activity... | ||
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On May 09 2009 06:24 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Um that seems a little fancy and would get confusing. I guess that the Evil Twin thing could allow vets to live bit longer if the Evil Twin gets clues linking to newer players but ehh. And a lot of work for mod to keep track of all this but I would definitely play your game if you made one. If I made a game, I'd make lots of lore for every character. "You're an old granny living in an old house. You have an old gun hidden in your basement with which you will defend yourself. If a Mafia comes to kill you, you have a 25% chance to kill the Mafia with that gun and survive the attack." Or: "You're the Town's priest. During the course of the game you can choose to spend a night in the church. Not even the Mafia dares to touch you there, so you gain invincibility for that one night. Any hit on you will not go through, but you can not communicate with anybody during that night." Etc... Basically, every single character would be a part of the Town and have a unique distinction. Nothing really fancy, but something to set them apart from the others. Edit: obviously every Town needs a zombie... | ||
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On May 09 2009 08:21 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Yeah I don't think we need random chances deciding game and you can't enforce the no talking rule very well. It's not about random chances, it's about Mafia thinking whether it's safe to hit somebody or not. It' about promoting activity on both sides. Crazy old woman being active to provide an undesirable target for Mafia, Mafia trying to avoid hitting such a target. And we had silencer, you can enforce the no communication rule very easily. Don't think mechanics at this stage tho, it's just about the general ideas. | ||
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On May 09 2009 23:13 0cz3c wrote: Ace is absolutely right. This game was perfectly balanced. Two things killed the town: its general inactivity and its nonsensical stupidity. You guys ignored very legitimate analysis and convictions until the very end (when it was far too late). I think if Ace had explained why Qatol was mafia, Qatol might have died earlier, but the fact that he lived as long as he did really speaks loudly about the town. What? The game absolutely wasn't balanced. If BC didn't want to surprise us all with these 2 families, or at least told the Mafias from the get-go that they had to kill each other eventually, it would have been balanced. As it was tho, the Mafia took a very quick and tricky route: unite, and THEN ask BC if they have to kill each other (oops, too late for that now, we already know all the other mafia members, whatcha gonna do BC?). From there, BC had no choice anymore - if he says yes, Mafias break out a drama and end the game right there - BC can't have that. The other version is that of a lesser evil - let the Mafias unite and fuck the Town over, since Town won't find out about it anyway, until it's too late (and both Mafias and BC would just keep quiet about the whole incident). And that's what happened. Not to say I wouldn't have exploited this hole the same if I was Mafia, but the kinda annoying part is that we didn't even know the rules we've been playing by. Town automatically assumed that the Mafias will have to work against each other eventually (so there shouldn't be that big of a coordination). The Mafias basically were watching it all, and knew it's not true, and no one ever said a thing. Not even BC. Not even at the very end, when we specifically asked it like 55 times. By that time I was only playing this game, because I was hoping Mafia will start killing each other soon. When that didn't happen on Night 4 either, it was way too obvious that we've been screwed over. The mass-voting couldn't have happened either if there basically wasn't a single Mafia with 2 godfathers. As it stands, there is no winner of this round. There is only one loser, Town, and everyone who was playing with it. Two Mafias is a good idea, and it can work very well, but really... Let all the players know what rules they're playing by before starting the game? | ||
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On May 10 2009 05:19 Ver wrote: Guys, Qatol roleclaimed to me since he was on the verge of quitting from getting lied to repeatedly about what was going on and killing a mafia member when he was told he couldn't. If I wasn't mafia (although he had good reasons for thinking I was) the game would've been over right then. Please don't make up some phony conspiracy theories of how the mafia played so tricky allying first when they weren't supposed to. That's just what I said but it's phrased differently. The game would have ended right there, so BC patched things up so it isn't. Mafia went complaining to BC first, since they noticed it first, and got what they wanted. So you really think the game was meant to be played that way? Obviously not, since you disagree with BC's ways as well. BC should have made the two families completely separate, and actually that's what the Town always believed is the case. THE WHOLE GAME. EVERY goddamn lynch attempt was made with that in mind. This also goes to Qatol. You also used this misconception, and based all your defense on it. You knew the rules didn't work like that by then, because by that time BC told you the truth. Ver also knew, and he then came up with his own defense, which was ALSO based on how the two families would have to kill each other in the end. You were basically lying to the Town about the RULES of the game, even tho you guys were ready to throw it all when you felt that YOU were being lied to. Still, it's OK to deceive the Town in the same way, right? Qatol, you're saying Town played poorly by not lynching a mafia earlier? Town partly left you in office for all that time, because it figured you will at least fight the other Mafia. BC was watching all that, and never ever decided that maybe Town should actually know what they're playing. Hell, there might have been a surprise third faction of Vampires, how would we know? Yes, maybe BC lied to you guys for the first night, but he never told the truth to the Town for the WHOLE game. You had a slow start, Town was crippled from the beginning to the very end. Lying about in-game stuff is OK (hell, that's what this game is about, deception), lying about the RULES of the game, when you, in fact, know better, is pretty dirty. | ||
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On May 10 2009 05:44 Ver wrote: You are completely wrong, sorry. If town played perfectly with qatol as mayor. mayor lynch- miss day 1- hit (vote double) day 2- vigi 2x hit, lynch 2x hit (vote double) day 3- lynch 2x hit (vote double) day 4- lynch 2x hit 9 mafia dead by day 4. Assuming perfect game with qatol as mayor. Considering bockit died by mafia hands that would've been game by day 4 (which is around when mafia had pretty much victory guaranteed). Obviously you don't need a perfect game to win or anything close. With 9 potential KP, even 2 hits would've worked out ok and you could've went into late game on reasonable footing. Mafia with 4 KP is very different than mafia with 6 KP. Double lynches, misused vigi hits. You guys had plenty of KP, just didn't use it since you had all the wrong targets and so much uncertainty. Blues didn't hide themselves well, etc. Arguing this is kinda ridiculous. BC even gave you guys more blues than he should've (extra dt and medic). You're arguing about something completely different here. Both Malongo and me said this many times now: The Town played sucky. It didn't deserve to win. That's not the issue here. And arguing about perfect games and perfect plays is also obviously nonsense. My key point here is: The Town and Mafia played by a different set of rules. And YOU knew it. | ||
Mynock
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On May 11 2009 10:19 L wrote: Near perfect =/= perfect. Every lynch, area of discussion and pretty much every pm ring was under our control. Some things could have been better, but very few. Just gotta love ego-tripping Mafias post-game . Usually the same people who just go AFK once they've found out they're green Townies. I'd add another thing here to the Ace guide: -Don't get into your character too much! Just because you're Mafia, doesn't make you a ruthless killer in hiding. Just because you got Vigilante, doesn't mean you're Batman. The only reason you want to seem one way or the other to people, is because you INTEND to. Otherwise, try to play this game pretending you're a Townie. Even to yourself. People underestimate how their sense of a role is affecting their posting habits. | ||
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