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On April 27 2009 04:39 3clipse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2009 03:03 Monoxide wrote:
uhh... I don't see it....Can you give me more examples, and I will tell you why they don't apply.
Certianly. "Bloodyc0bbler was left to die slowly" Carbon monoxide poisoning is a slow death. "Scaramanga handed some parcels to a courier, and closing his door, walked to his living room, and began throwing stacks of paper into his fireplace" This produces carbon monoxide. "Pyrrhuloxia fired, just as his opponent tripped forward just under the bullets path before stumbling into, and stabbing pyrrhuloxia" This death was basically accidental, as carbon monoxide poisoning is in most cases. "Nemy turned to the commotion and got up to save his friend, only to take a few steps and collapse, with a burning sensation in his lungs" While carbon monoxide poisoning is painless, you can't deny that this is the strongest clue so far that can be traced to a single person. I really doubt you'll be able to change my mind, but I'll give you a chance to defend yourself before voting.
Carbon Monoxide is not really a slow death... its acutally quite fast. It is slow in comparison to a bullet, for example, but then so are many of the narcotics.
Accidental death == CO poisoning?? now you're just making stuff up... need I remind you that noone got any of the clues correct in the previous mafia game.
"Nemy turned to the commotion and got up to save his friend, only to take a few steps and collapse, with a burning sensation in his lungs"
While carbon monoxide poisoning is painless, you can't deny that this is the strongest clue so far that can be traced to a single person.
Soo you're telling me, even though the clue doesn't fit, you're saying its a strong clue cause that's the best you got. Nice
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Hai guys, I have once again decided to come out into the open after a series of busy schedule week I obtained (as well as the next starting tomorrow) with exams, preparations for transfering college, work, personal matters, and etc. So yes, I have just finished reading all the posts after my last post and have now decided to step out and come out into the open once more to create an extremely long series of discussion points and post like I have before for in my opinion is the easiest and best method of my choosing to follow.
Before I do go on though, I will state few things first.....
1. The name of my account, QuickStriker, was first obtained and formed in 2004 when I was in my time playing Starcraft on battle.net endlessly where I wanted to create a new account for myself than my other ones I had and the first thing I had mind is something that's quick in which I can strike, thus, the name QuickStriker was born. (for those who love history lessons.)
2. On April 27 2009 05:05 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I mean if those were clues they are give-aways, but you look at QS's profile and there's nothing except an anime character with two different colored eyes. I'm not sure if you have anything to confirm he's not mafia, but he kinda makes me suspicious.
Now, I have explained myself this before few days regarding my favorite anime character of all time atm. He is Lelouch from Code Geass (one of the BEST ANIME you will ever see EVER for it is basically Death Note + Gundam put together... I RECOMMEND IT!) where I use that a lot now being a total fanboyish on that anime and the character in which sometimes I wish I am him with geass power... sadly I have woken up from a dream in a place called Reality.... *sighs*
3. In terms of behavioral issues, yes I will repeat again, I tend to get sensitive on things in rl and even on the internet as I sometimes like to overreact and take things more seriously than the average TL/interneters..... in which I suppose I DO NOT ENJOY people bashing, critizing, or offending me in a bad horrible way in which in that case, I will step up and correct them of their ways for they have done something in which is very rude and unmanly.....
So now that I have begun my introduction, I might as well release my table of contents for today's series of posts where I like to make my points, discussions, clues, ideas, and etc. Thus, I will continue on my next post as I simply do wish the mass public to read this first before I go onward to my next post with my second point of discussion today...
Table of Contents of QuickStriker's post on 4/26/09:
i. Introduction
ia. Reasoning of afk/MIA for several days
ib. Opening Statements and points to list
ib1. The name in which is QuickStriker
ib2. The profile picture in which is one of the most epic anime character of all time...
ib3. QuickStriker's behavior
ic. Ending statement of Intro + future format of posts
id. Table of Contents of QuickStriker's post on 4/26/09
ie. A "food for thought" note before moving on to next post following the ToC
ii. The Defense (may not be order starting this point except for iia)
iia. Recapping the previous post of Intro
iib. Statement of being accused and explain how it feels like to be accused...
iic. Evidence and details to support to counter being the accused...
iid. Questions to give toward the mass regarding being the accused and the defense
iie. Final Statement and food for thought to end with the post
iii. The Offense
iiia. Starts off with the brief quick recap of the previous post
iiib. Releases QuickStriker's personal opinion and thoughts regarding the second day, post night 1 and day, and etc
iiic. Suggestions, ideas and clues that QuickStriker thought of
iiid. Details and support to back the previous section
iiie. Final Statement and food for thought to end with the post
iv. TBC (To be continued....)
Now as promised in ie. I would like to give this quote what I found was interesting which was the post right after Night #1 where Qatol, our new mayor lynched with his initial ability inertinpet (who was a green meaining townie).
On April 23 2009 23:50 GoodWill wrote:
cool, let's lynch quickstirker next
(he does later start explaining stuff in later post but the first post that just came after Qatol being mayor......)
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I do want to clarify and edit something on my last post quickly before I have to run out for a dinner appointment with my dad to an old friend of his at Jersey.....
Like I said just a line above, I will have to be get going soon but rest assure, I will finish my posts and submit my posts when I do get back and try to get it done by today if possible. But if not, you will still see my finish my post by the AMs of 4/27/09 (I'm on Eastern time btw on US) so for those impatient people asking themselves "where and what the heck is QS doing", I am moving on with my own life and I do have my life + reality > Internet + TL so please bear with me for that... but yea.... see ya soon!
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On April 26 2009 22:36 mikeymoo wrote:
Regarding Monoxide, I can let the town know this (I know him irl, but we don't live in the same city anymore).
He was done finals a couple days ago, and had the whole of yesterday to post. I'm pretty sure he's reading the thread, as he keeps asking me over msn if I've read mafia or how the game is going etc etc.
In previous discussions I've had with him, he tells me how OP mafia is, and how easy it would be to win with red alignment. His mind games are very strong, so although he's not posting, he's both a liability and an asset (depending on his alignment, obviously).
If he checks TL, it's probably in the afternoon at his time, so in roughly 6 hours I'd imagine. I shot him a PM to tell him to get active and explain himself, essentially. I think I played one game with him and he never asked how the game was going or what not. He wasn't mafia that game.
I don't think the evidence is insurmountable, but it's something to keep in mind.
At this point in time, I'd lean towards behaviour analysis moreso than clue analysis.
I'd like to call attention to this post and emphasize that the case against Monoxide is not only clue-related, but also STRONGLY behavioral-related. I'm willing to follow mikeymoo's lead on this one. He is a smart, well-known player who is risking his own reputation to call out a friend who is acting strangely. That is good enough for me when combined with the other evidence compiled.
Another thing I'd like to mention is that right now we have more suspects than we can handle. Versatile, Monoxide, JeeJee, and Quickstriker are all strong suspects. This points to us using a double lynch on day 3 without even considering that we may have additional suspects by then.
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Reading the voting thread, I am seeing that many are adamantly against double lynching day 3. Why? Please persuade me that it isn't a good idea.
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On April 27 2009 06:06 Qatol wrote:
Reading the voting thread, I am seeing that many are adamantly against double lynching day 3. Why? Please persuade me that it isn't a good idea.
As for why I think it is a good idea, first of all, we get rolechecks tonight (assuming we have detectives left, we should have 1 or 2). second of all, I think we will have more players called out by day 3. Finally, we have lots of suspects I feel pretty good about right now.
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The last two pages told me everything I need to know.
Thanks!
EDIT: Day 2 is almost at an end and so far Monoxide is leading the votes with something like 5-8.
Camilto, Ace, Ver, BW, etc. where you guys at?
Let's pick up the activity people.
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On April 27 2009 04:39 3clipse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2009 03:03 Monoxide wrote:
uhh... I don't see it....Can you give me more examples, and I will tell you why they don't apply.
Certianly. "Bloodyc0bbler was left to die slowly" Carbon monoxide poisoning is a slow death. "Scaramanga handed some parcels to a courier, and closing his door, walked to his living room, and began throwing stacks of paper into his fireplace" This produces carbon monoxide. "Pyrrhuloxia fired, just as his opponent tripped forward just under the bullets path before stumbling into, and stabbing pyrrhuloxia" This death was basically accidental, as carbon monoxide poisoning is in most cases. "Nemy turned to the commotion and got up to save his friend, only to take a few steps and collapse, with a burning sensation in his lungs" While carbon monoxide poisoning is painless, you can't deny that this is the strongest clue so far that can be traced to a single person. I really doubt you'll be able to change my mind, but I'll give you a chance to defend yourself before voting.
I think the problem with this analysis is that these are all clues from different deaths and thus pointing to different mafiosos. Unless BC has drastically changed the format of clue writing, you cannot link all of these clues to just one person. The only clue listed here which I even find to be remotely plausible is the first one, from the fire, since CO is a product of incomplete combustion.
My gut tells me if lynched, Monoxide will flip green. I voted Versatile, but I'm not comfortable with that and will change my pick to QuickStriker. I think maybe he is just strongly overreacting to being accused (some mafia probably would have reigned him in by now), but I just don't like reading his posts. Nothing personal, buddy.
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On April 27 2009 06:09 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2009 06:06 Qatol wrote:
Reading the voting thread, I am seeing that many are adamantly against double lynching day 3. Why? Please persuade me that it isn't a good idea. As for why I think it is a good idea, first of all, we get rolechecks tonight (assuming we have detectives left, we should have 1 or 2). second of all, I think we will have more players called out by day 3. Finally, we have lots of suspects I feel pretty good about right now.
Unlike you, I don't feel great about any of our current suspects. But I will vote for double lynch in the hopes that greater confidence arises during the next day/night and we will have the lynch ready.
Btw you haven't remarked on whether Pyrr ever said anything to you. Were you in contact before he died?
I don't think you have to fear from admitting this, after all you have bg protection.
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On April 27 2009 07:11 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2009 06:09 Qatol wrote:On April 27 2009 06:06 Qatol wrote:
Reading the voting thread, I am seeing that many are adamantly against double lynching day 3. Why? Please persuade me that it isn't a good idea. As for why I think it is a good idea, first of all, we get rolechecks tonight (assuming we have detectives left, we should have 1 or 2). second of all, I think we will have more players called out by day 3. Finally, we have lots of suspects I feel pretty good about right now. Unlike you, I don't feel great about any of our current suspects. But I will vote for double lynch in the hopes that greater confidence arises during the next day/night and we will have the lynch ready. Btw you haven't remarked on whether Pyrr ever said anything to you. Were you in contact before he died? I don't think you have to fear from admitting this, after all you have bg protection.
On page 22, I mentioned that I have talked to him a LOT via PMs.
On April 26 2009 09:56 Qatol wrote:
I will admit I was talking to both Bockit and pyrrhuluxia. my conversation with Bockit was short, but do you REALLY want me to post my conversations with pyrr - I have 21 PMs from him..... (my inbox looked like the thread for a while - he calls it "verbal diarrhea)?
Pyrr accused:
showtime! malongo dreamflower 0cz3c 3 lions Quickstriker coolcrimefighter malongo again inertinept 0cz3c again (and yes, it is likely I'm missing a few)
A basic summary was we were brainstorming on targets for clue analysis.
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Ah. Completely missed that post :p
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On April 27 2009 06:18 Showtime! wrote:
The last two pages told me everything I need to know.
Thanks!
EDIT: Day 2 is almost at an end and so far Monoxide is leading the votes with something like 5-8.
Camilto, Ace, Ver, BW, etc. where you guys at?
Let's pick up the activity people.
Well, I've just been somewhat busy and haven't had the time to check up on the thread. Gonna go catch up now.
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Edit by way of post.
Yeah, I'm not really sold on any of the suspects being voted on being mafia, so I'm gonna go ahead and abstain.
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Ok I have thought about our situation a little bit more and have decided to change my vote from monoxide to JeeJee. My reasoning:
1. The clues against monoxide just aren't believable.
2. He is hiding his evidence
3. He is attacking everyone who has accused him.
4. In doing #3 he gets stuff wrong. Showtime voted for Versatile, and I hadn't voted at the time.
Again, if anyone disagrees with my reasoning, make a case. Persuade me. Right now I think JeeJee's horrible defense is enough reason to lynch.
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On April 27 2009 08:51 Qatol wrote:
Ok I have thought about our situation a little bit more and have decided to change my vote from monoxide to JeeJee. My reasoning:
1. The clues against monoxide just aren't believable.
2. He is hiding his evidence
3. He is attacking everyone who has accused him.
4. In doing #3 he gets stuff wrong. Showtime voted for Versatile, and I hadn't voted at the time.
Again, if anyone disagrees with my reasoning, make a case. Persuade me. Right now I think JeeJee's horrible defense is enough reason to lynch.
1. as opposed to clues against me?
2. ???
3. no, just pointing out the flaws in the wagons you're attempting to start
4. what? i assume you're referring to my 'look at the wagon starter chuiu and people who reinforced it aka showtime and qatol'? that has nothign to do with for who you voted, and it has everything to do with your posts in the thread.
once i flip green, i urge you guys to re-examine your case against qatol. his case for lynching me is laughable at best.
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to elaborate on point 1
clues against me: there aren't any unless you pretend the word "angst" means pain, and that snickering at dead people is the same as being happy about the anxiousness of others (my sig)
talk about a stretch. you know, as opposed to relating the word "oops" with being clumsy, and the fact that nobody else matches clumsiness at all.
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On April 27 2009 06:04 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2009 22:36 mikeymoo wrote:
Regarding Monoxide, I can let the town know this (I know him irl, but we don't live in the same city anymore).
He was done finals a couple days ago, and had the whole of yesterday to post. I'm pretty sure he's reading the thread, as he keeps asking me over msn if I've read mafia or how the game is going etc etc.
In previous discussions I've had with him, he tells me how OP mafia is, and how easy it would be to win with red alignment. His mind games are very strong, so although he's not posting, he's both a liability and an asset (depending on his alignment, obviously).
If he checks TL, it's probably in the afternoon at his time, so in roughly 6 hours I'd imagine. I shot him a PM to tell him to get active and explain himself, essentially. I think I played one game with him and he never asked how the game was going or what not. He wasn't mafia that game.
I don't think the evidence is insurmountable, but it's something to keep in mind.
At this point in time, I'd lean towards behaviour analysis moreso than clue analysis. I'd like to call attention to this post and emphasize that the case against Monoxide is not only clue-related, but also STRONGLY behavioral-related. I'm willing to follow mikeymoo's lead on this one. He is a smart, well-known player who is risking his own reputation to call out a friend who is acting strangely. That is good enough for me when combined with the other evidence compiled.
Another thing I'd like to mention is that right now we have more suspects than we can handle. Versatile, Monoxide, JeeJee, and Quickstriker are all strong suspects. This points to us using a double lynch on day 3 without even considering that we may have additional suspects by then.
This is the worst bullshit ive read from you all game. Period. Dont Vote double lynch. I made a post 2 pages back explaining why we MUST SAVE THEM. Our "suspects" are not even remotely confirmed, and the double lynchs is one of the few things that the town has. Read my post, Please.
One more note: Given the history in the previous mafia game and some pms we interchanged then im looking at you with crying eyes, because you agreed that game that the first bad move from the town was using a double lynch without confirmed targets. Im serious, Qatol you just started looking mafia to me.
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On April 27 2009 09:15 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2009 06:04 Qatol wrote:On April 26 2009 22:36 mikeymoo wrote:
Regarding Monoxide, I can let the town know this (I know him irl, but we don't live in the same city anymore).
He was done finals a couple days ago, and had the whole of yesterday to post. I'm pretty sure he's reading the thread, as he keeps asking me over msn if I've read mafia or how the game is going etc etc.
In previous discussions I've had with him, he tells me how OP mafia is, and how easy it would be to win with red alignment. His mind games are very strong, so although he's not posting, he's both a liability and an asset (depending on his alignment, obviously).
If he checks TL, it's probably in the afternoon at his time, so in roughly 6 hours I'd imagine. I shot him a PM to tell him to get active and explain himself, essentially. I think I played one game with him and he never asked how the game was going or what not. He wasn't mafia that game.
I don't think the evidence is insurmountable, but it's something to keep in mind.
At this point in time, I'd lean towards behaviour analysis moreso than clue analysis. I'd like to call attention to this post and emphasize that the case against Monoxide is not only clue-related, but also STRONGLY behavioral-related. I'm willing to follow mikeymoo's lead on this one. He is a smart, well-known player who is risking his own reputation to call out a friend who is acting strangely. That is good enough for me when combined with the other evidence compiled.
Another thing I'd like to mention is that right now we have more suspects than we can handle. Versatile, Monoxide, JeeJee, and Quickstriker are all strong suspects. This points to us using a double lynch on day 3 without even considering that we may have additional suspects by then. This is the worst bullshit ive read from you all game. Period. Dont Vote double lynch. I made a post 2 pages back explaining why we MUST SAVE THEM. Our "suspects" are not even remotely confirmed, and the double lynchs is one of the few things that the town has. Read my post, Please. One more note: Given the history in the previous mafia game and some pms we interchanged then im looking at you with crying eyes, because you agreed that game that the first bad move from the town was using a double lynch without confirmed targets. Im serious, Qatol you just started looking mafia to me.
In the future, please PM the person first before calling them out like this. If the private response isn't acceptable, you have that much more ammo to accuse them with.
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Qatol I'm almost positive at this point that you are indeed mafia. I'm watching TV right now but I'll be back soon to prove it.
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lmao @ protocol for calling people out.
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