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BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 13 2009 10:58 GMT
#91
Aw crap I missed signups. Chuiu could you put me on waiting list for next game please.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 15 2009 14:11 GMT
#129
Sweet.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 17 2009 14:51 GMT
#215
On March 17 2009 17:41 semioldguy wrote:
I don't really want to be an elected official


So semi, if you don't really want to be an elected offcial, why are you running? I mean, electing someone that isn't motivated would be a pretty bad idea. Could you elaborate on your motivations for running a bit.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 17 2009 18:20 GMT
#227
On March 18 2009 02:33 semioldguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2009 23:51 BWdero wrote:
On March 17 2009 17:41 semioldguy wrote:
I don't really want to be an elected official


So semi, if you don't really want to be an elected offcial, why are you running? I mean, electing someone that isn't motivated would be a pretty bad idea. Could you elaborate on your motivations for running a bit.


I am running because (1) I trust myself; (2) I know I'll be active; and (3) I will put in the effort to do my best if elected. Even if I might not have the highest desire to be an elected, once there I will surely have the motivation to do well in my position.


1. Obviously.

2. I don't doubt that you will.

3. You are basically saying that you will try hard if you get elected. That's good, anyone that doesn't think so shouldn't be running. That's not a reason to run in the first place though. Unless you feel the other candidates can't be trusted to be active.



On March 18 2009 02:43 semioldguy wrote:
Also @ BWdero:
I usually enjoy being a regular Townie the most (more than a special role or being Mafia) for some reason. I still have fun with the other roles, though I really like figuring out who Mafia are a lot more than I enjoy playing as them. Though I enjoy all of it to be honest. Being elected would ensure that I am not green.



I'm sorry but you aren't making sense. First you say you enjoy being green more then anyhing and then you say you are running because being elected will make sure you aren't green. What? Am I misunderstanding something here?
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BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 17 2009 19:03 GMT
#234
On March 18 2009 03:37 semioldguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 03:20 BWdero wrote:
On March 18 2009 02:43 semioldguy wrote:
Also @ BWdero:
I usually enjoy being a regular Townie the most (more than a special role or being Mafia) for some reason. I still have fun with the other roles, though I really like figuring out who Mafia are a lot more than I enjoy playing as them. Though I enjoy all of it to be honest. Being elected would ensure that I am not green.



I'm sorry but you aren't making sense. First you say you enjoy being green more then anyhing and then you say you are running because being elected will make sure you aren't green. What? Am I misunderstanding something here?

Yes, you are misunderstanding something. I never say that this is why I am running. I say that being elected makes sure I am not green, because it is a true statement. In fact, I state this because this is where my inner-conflict resides (something you asked about to begin with). You wanted to know why I didn't seem fully motivated to run... it's because I enjoy being green most. I am running because I don't like any of the other candidates other than BC.

If that still doesn't make sense to you, then it probably isn't ever going to. The way and reasons a person acts will not always make sense to everyone, even in hindsight.


Nah that makes sense to me. Misunderstood you that's all. And yeah I'm not liking candidates other then BC myself.

On a general note, everyone that is running please put forward a platform that consists of more then 'I will do what town says'. That's nice and all but every candidate is like that. I mean nobody is running on 'I will never listen to what town says'. So please put forward some ideas of your own. What cunning plan to destroy mafia can you devise? Do you agree or disagree with the plans put forward so far? What makes you a better sheriff/mayor then the other guys?
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 17 2009 19:13 GMT
#237
Bloody, the problem with having the medics specifically protect veteran players is that mafia will know that those players are guarded by medics. So they wouldn't put a hit on them and instead just go for others (whom are not protected by medics) and have a field day. It would be better for the medics to just cover who they see fit.
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BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 17 2009 19:38 GMT
#244
On March 18 2009 04:28 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 04:13 BWdero wrote:
Bloody, the problem with having the medics specifically protect veteran players is that mafia will know that those players are guarded by medics. So they wouldn't put a hit on them and instead just go for others (whom are not protected by medics) and have a field day. It would be better for the medics to just cover who they see fit.


If you're mafia, would you really risk letting ver/ace/etc run free for several days? Established intelligent players can do a LOT of damage very quickly because their ideas are often sound and they are more likely to be believed based on previous games.


If I knew that putting a hit on those players would mean that they would be confirmed town and put in charge of coordinating town efforts I would seriously consider other options before attempting to kill them. It's a choice really, let the intelligent players run amock for a few days while killing unprotected town or risk putting one of them in charge.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 17 2009 20:07 GMT
#256
On March 18 2009 05:00 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 04:45 Qatol wrote:
On March 18 2009 04:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
The medics aren't going to be able to coordinate protection early on so going after good players has a good chance of working especially if the mafia double up hits to make sure if they feel someone is protected.


Then the mafia wastes early KP doubling up. That works for me.

Right, I think BWDero is wrong because there aren't many medics compared to people who would need to be protected. Odds are at least one veteran is a mafia (though that didn't happen last game) and won't be hit and medics will probably double up on protection before coordination so it makes sense for mafia to begin by hitting skilled, experienced players until they can narrow down some blues from vigi hit clues or behavior / slip ups / etc.


Yeah I was off. It's a solid plan if we manage to get the one that got hit through the night before his incarceration.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 17 2009 21:15 GMT
#283
BabyHands, what makes you so sure mafia aren't trying to get elected?
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 17 2009 22:51 GMT
#313
I'll throw in my vote.

I vote for semioldguy.
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BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 18 2009 17:39 GMT
#427
I agree with MrBabyHands. Chuiu specifically set things up so creating a centralized and organized town would be hard to do. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try, I doubt he saw last games plan coming. But it seems like we'll have to play this one out as the 'uninformed majority' we're supposed to be.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 18 2009 23:39 GMT
#465
I change my vote to Pyrrhuloxia.

Outstanding clue analysis, you have me convinced. That sort of stuff is what I'm looking for in a sherrif/mayor.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 18 2009 23:50 GMT
#468
On March 19 2009 08:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ok, I have some reading to do to get fully caught up from my working into drink fest last night.

But.

Why are people voting for mayor/sheriff choices based off day 1 clue/behaviour analysis? I know that its a good way to catch mafia on both counts, but heres the issue.

Day 1 clues will have only 2-4 clues total each insanely vague, and each to a different mafia, never more clues pointing at it. Also, chuiu typically has his clues as specific words, so using an entire sentence isn't his style bases on past games.

Next, we have barely any posting habits to follow on someones behaviour to have it exactly down at this point, it is just as hard to prove someone is mafia off the little posting done.

I understand both areas are equally important, but for day 1, neither are truely reliable.


Incorrect, last game Chuiu used the note about nuking town as a clue pointing to Fearus. The clue was about an action the mafia made, basically telling town to fear them.

On February 28 2009 13:46 Chuiu wrote:

In the morning a note was delivered to the Police HQ. It read

"We've killed two of your officers and if you don't find us and kill us first we will kill more. Lynch someone every day starting today. Use the experts of the town to find us before we kill you all. If you fail to lynch someone or try to evacuate the town we will set off a nuclear warhead hidden within the city killing everyone."

The mafia were playing a cruel game it seemed. That morning an announcement was made that all people would have to assist the police in gathering clues and voting on the suspected to be lynched every day. Change had come to Liquidia, and the whole world was watching to see how it would respond.



That entire bolded part was a clue. Meaning that Chuiu does indeed make his clues more elaborate then simple one word clues at least part of the time.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 19 2009 01:15 GMT
#495
On March 19 2009 09:55 redtooth wrote:
Holy crap that turned into a straight up essay.
Sorry guys and good luck wading through all of that.


No need to apologize, taking the effort to write long and well thought out posts is a good thing. I disagree with you on Pyrr beeing overzealous though. I was rather impressed with the effort put into that post. And he has already admitted that he realizes that as a day one analysis it's most likely wrong. It's still the best case against anyone we have though. Yeah the clue could point towards others but still, we have to lynch someone on day 1. Though lynching an inactive does seem like an alternative worth considering.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 19 2009 01:36 GMT
#499
On March 19 2009 10:26 fusionsdf wrote:
About the inactives: yes, thats also a good method to lynch on. Does anyone have a list of inactives?


I'll make one, give me some time.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 19 2009 02:31 GMT
#509
aaagh right when I'm ctrl-f ing everyone to see if they voted Chuiu posts it, all that wasted effort. Meh I'll post it anyways.

People who have not yet voted and how much they have posted:

Please note signup posts are not included.

Camlito (very few posts)
Lurker (made one 1 sentence post)
Night[Mare (made a few short posts)
Rebirthoflegend (made a few short posts)
Snet (no posts whatsoever)
Centric (a few short posts)
Kennigit (no posts whatsoever)
Icysoul (very few posts)
Versatile (no posts whatsoever)
Blue_arrow (no posts whatsoever)
RaGe (a few short posts)
Lucktar (a few short posts)
Ocz3c (no posts whatsoever, not even a signup post, weird)
Humbug (no posts whatsoever)
NemY (quite a few posts)
aZnvaLiaNce (made a few short posts)
JL13 (no posts whatsoever)
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 19 2009 02:38 GMT
#512
On March 19 2009 11:36 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2009 11:31 BWdero wrote:
Ocz3c (no posts whatsoever, not even a signup post, weird)

i saw his retarded post somewhere. you might have spelled his name wrong or something. i definitely recall skipping over his elaborate explanation about how he was towny.

edit: no content change, just format.


I used the spelling Chuiu used in the participants list, if that one is wrong thats why I didn't see him.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 19 2009 02:47 GMT
#517
Ah yes thats it, Chuiu has it spelled with an O. 0cz3c did vote.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 19 2009 02:49 GMT
#518
On March 19 2009 11:45 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2009 11:43 fusionsdf wrote:
On March 19 2009 11:34 redtooth wrote:
alright, the last two votes likely put semioldguy over the top.
as it stands, its BC and semioldguy getting the elected positions.


you don't find all this bandwagoning the least bit suspicious?

don't know who the hell ydg is but as i said in my last post i'm going to go ahead and trust babyhands for now. i really don't want pyrr elected. sorry bro but i got to do what i got to do.


I don't blame you, prior to voting just now he had no posts whatsoever.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 19 2009 02:51 GMT
#519
Same goes for CompX btw if anyone finds that interesting. (damn you no edit rule)
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
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