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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
That said I think I am in a shitty double bind tonight. Either Pika Chu is mafia and the mafia think I'm a good clue analyzer and they are going to kill me or Pika Chu isn't a mafia but the mafia thinks I'm good and they'll kill me or Pika Chu isn't mafia and I suck  . I guess Pika Chu could be mafia and the mafia could still think I suck. Lol this game makes me so paranoid. | ||
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
On March 19 2009 07:37 MrBabyHands wrote: Second Test: Yesterday, I posted a list of the people I believe are innocent. Some people questioned it. Since i was sure the mafia werent online or participating at the time, questioning such a list is certainly something the logged-on innocents would do. Like how? Unless you are in their irc channel or sth how are you supposed to know the mafia players are not online or participating? This is getting ridiculous. On March 19 2009 07:37 MrBabyHands wrote:But a lot changes in a night. Today, i fully expected the mafia to read yesterday's posts, including my list. I also expected them to notice that i said "questioning the list is something an innocent would do." So, if the mafia read that, I would expect them to start doing just that-- questioning the list in an attempt to appear as innocent as the others. Of the 3 people i identified earlier, one of them also questioned the list: mandalor That's like posting "mafia players are so stupid, they can't calculate 2+1" and when the first person says it's "3", he has to be mafia. If you seriously think I'd fall for that, I have no hopes for you. On March 19 2009 07:37 MrBabyHands wrote:In addition, mandalor's direct response to the list was -------- On March 19 2009 04:55 Mandalor wrote: You take it as fact that mafia is stupid and that is naive. -------- In my experience, it's usually the mafia that explicitly defends a quality of the mafia (in this case, he defended the mafia's intelligence). I am now convinced that mandalor is mafia. how is that for behavioral analysis? In my experience the players who stir the most shit, going on a blind witchhunt are most likely to be mafia. How is that for behavioral analysis? Your behavioral analysis is based purely on thinking anyone who criticizes you or posted after the first day has to be mafia. That is hilarious and I hope everyone can see that, I haven't read the replies to this, yet. | ||
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JL13
United States1384 Posts
Of course, this possibility is kinda out in left field and I'd like to think you're town =) Regardless what color Pikachu flips, you still are most likely going to be targeted just because you're really active, throwing out a lot of ideas, etc. Unless of course, you are mafia. tbh, i am gonna sleep. Hopefully that made sense. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
That being said, leave the Pika Chu shit alone. He shouldn't even be close to being lynched. A DT will probably check him out and figure it out from there or we'll wait for more clues. This is exactly why I said you shouldn't be in any position of power. No idea why anyone would vote semioldguy in, good going town. so now me, Ver, Camlito, Mr.BabyHands, Versatile and other good players are left out in the cold. Real smart. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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semioldguy
United States7488 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
I love how he says "In my experience, it's usually the mafia that explicitly defends a quality of the mafia" even though the only game he's played was Ace's Mafia World (I assume, with how low his post count is) and he was mafia in that game. I guess it is this one game of experience that gives him the idea that all mafia post once in a blue moon like he did. I frickin' hope he's not in a mafia irc again, that was such a lame maneuver; it wasn't even an awesome infiltration, he just used a script to auto join channels all new channels before they could be password protected. Also, if I remember correctly Ace thought the irc infiltration was a bit lame which makes me wonder why the hell he would support MrBabyMan from the very beginning of this game off of like 2 crazy posts. Rereading MBH's analysis, it looks even more laughable. And yet so many votes from Class-S players like Ace, Caller, Ver, etc. Flying fuck fish that seems weird to me. And yet I don't think he's mafia and I think there must be a method to this madness. I say I don't think he's mafia because I don't think these great players would vote for him and keep their votes on him if they were in the mafia with him even when he started losing, although it would look weird to switch. Maybe these good players are mafia and MrBabyMan isn't and they put their votes on him thinking he couldn't win and would be a safe / unsuspicious place to put votes? Or maybe they are mafia and the mafia has multiple candidates? (I think it would be a devastating strategy for the mafia in this ruleset to make multiple candidates early in order to discourage others from running since they think there are enough candidates already and whichever mafia wins will be cloaked by the office from DTs) My guess... either those good players voting for MBH are doing so to keep a low profile (since they placed their vote somewhere that couldn't win, although they could all be mafia that were hoping for a last minute bandwagon since that sometimes gets inactives' votes at the last minute) which they could be doing so either as mafia or just skilled blue/greens that have to do everything they can to lay low and avoid mafia hits. OR even most likely, MBH is a smurf they trust, maybe a higher-up from SC2GG or GG or something (that may have been confirmed during Ace's Mafia World, I think moletrap or pretzel or klazart or some people(s) were in that game; maybe that is the explanation). I'm so wishy-washy and have no idea what's going on. It's a good thing I didn't get elected I drank too much caffeine again and can't think straight. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
We just had to end the game because of all the problems it caused. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 19 2009 17:32 Ace wrote: Mr.BabyHands is a mafia player from another website that I invited last game. I voted for him because I put his game playing ability on the same level as pretty much any top-tier Mafia player here. Secondly, I never said the IRC infiltration was lame. I was actually somewhat indifferent to it ^_^ We just had to end the game because of all the problems it caused. Alright, thanks for clarification.Yeah, it was legit but awfully frustrating, especially because I never even used the irc. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On March 19 2009 17:32 Ace wrote: Mr.BabyHands is a mafia player from another website that I invited last game. I voted for him because I put his game playing ability on the same level as pretty much any top-tier Mafia player here. Secondly, I never said the IRC infiltration was lame. I was actually somewhat indifferent to it ^_^ We just had to end the game because of all the problems it caused. this he is a very strong player, as I recall from Ace's mafia game. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 19 2009 17:34 Caller wrote: this he is a very strong player, as I recall from Ace's mafia game. What did he do other than the irc thing? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
On March 19 2009 10:26 fusionsdf wrote: look, I don't want you to be lynched. If you want to stay alive, why not due some clue analysis of your own? If someone is a more likely suspect than you then it makes you safer right? I should point out that the first game MTF played this came up and he was about to be lynched. We encouraged to save himself, and he did by posting amazing clue analyses. Don't get mad at us if you get lynched; its because you didnt put enough effort into keeping yourself alive. About the inactives: yes, thats also a good method to lynch on. Does anyone have a list of inactives? Look, i couldn't care less if i get lynched, it's a game and it's the first time i play it. What i do care about is that you aren't thinking. Too many of you aren't reading all the posts and are way too enthusiast when they've been given a track, they even stop questioning over it and just go with the band wagon. And the second problem is, this stupid mentality of blaming someone else. I really really hate this mentality and i believe only retarded people use this who don't have enough integrity to stand on their own feet and you are telling me to use it and find someone to blame? Seriously man what am i, a 10 year kiddo or do i look retarded to you? Now i've realized that most (which have actually voted for pyrr) aren't really looking for clues and don't even care, they are only looking for show. And sorry but i am not willing to contribute to this senseless show, i prefer keeping things simple and honest. It's exactly like politics. Some people really don't give a fuck to what they say, they just watch the show and think "man, he did blame the other one for being a pedo? this guy is cool, i'm voting for him". Take a good look at everyone who voted for pyrr, they aren't interested in reasoning but in bandwagoning the simple stuff. Throw a bone and they'll fetch it, no questions asked. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
Pyrrhuloxia: Making sure no one else is the last poster for more than 30 seconds since 2008! | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 19 2009 17:54 Pika Chu wrote: Look, i couldn't care less if i get lynched, it's a game and it's the first time i play it. What i do care about is that you aren't thinking. Too many of you aren't reading all the posts and are way too enthusiast when they've been given a track, they even stop questioning over it and just go with the band wagon. And the second problem is, this stupid mentality of blaming someone else. I really really hate this mentality and i believe only retarded people use this who don't have enough integrity to stand on their own feet and you are telling me to use it and find someone to blame? Seriously man what am i, a 10 year kiddo or do i look retarded to you? Now i've realized that most (which have actually voted for pyrr) aren't really looking for clues and don't even care, they are only looking for show. And sorry but i am not willing to contribute to this senseless show, i prefer keeping things simple and honest. It's exactly like politics. Some people really don't give a fuck to what they say, they just watch the show and think "man, he did blame the other one for being a pedo? this guy is cool, i'm voting for him". Take a good look at everyone who voted for pyrr, they aren't interested in reasoning but in bandwagoning the simple stuff. Throw a bone and they'll fetch it, no questions asked. ur a fuckin pedo | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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semioldguy
United States7488 Posts
I put the inactives from the thread into a randomizer. RebirthofLegend came out. I did not choose to lynch Pika Chu because I think going off clues the first day is more or less insane. It's likely someone will check him out and we can deal with him from there. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
RebirthofLegend of all the inactives? oh no | ||
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
Would you please force some clues on that too? | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
In Ace's Mafia World, between sign up and election he made one (possibly 2) tiny posts and was a vigilante... | ||
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