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Which means we should look at who he voted for, and who else voted for them. Keep in mind this only matters if he flips red, but if he does, then yeah, we might catch a crapload of mafia. EDIT: Editing because I refuse to triple post: Hahahahaha. He voted for MBH, which is coincidentally who I voted for. Teach me to hit submit before checking these things. I guess it's possible he voted off the mafia train so as to lessen the suspicion on himself aftr pulling out of the election. Again this is all relevant only if Caller is in fact mafia. | ||
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1)Qatol 2)Ver 3)Camlito Either mafia stacked hits or the medics did well. | ||
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On March 21 2009 14:38 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: I don;'t think Ver could have use his vigi hit? I thought the only role that could act night 1 was medic and dt? "All roles must be used at night and only the Detective clue check ability and Medic ability may be used on Day 1." Ah I see. In that case, we should try and look at why mafia killed Scaramanga despite him being in the town's sights for a possible lynch. It doesn't make sense to me why they'd do our work for us. | ||
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Possibilities that I can see: 1)SoG is mafia a)Mandalor is mafia and he's sacrificing a likely-to-be-killed mafia member to gain our trust b)Mandalor is town aligned and I can't explain why this scenario would ever happen given the current state of things (SoG elected office etc) 2)SoG is a detective a)Mandalor is mafia b)Mandalor is a miller 3)SoG is a townie So 1b) and 3) are stupid but there for the sake of completion. Leaving: 1a) 2a) and 2b) 1a) and 2a) get us a mafia kill. 2b) gets us not much. Statistics put put the chance of him being a miller reasonably low. Also we have the behavioural analysis of Ver/MBH. Thus: I vote for Mandalor I vote for a double lynch tomorrow I do this because we already have rice lined up and we'll have more clues to work with (we've barely scraped the surface of Day 2 clues as it is...) so it's very likely we'll have 2 prime suspects. That's leaving alone out other behavioural analysis that gets done. EDIT: BBCode >_> | ||
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On March 21 2009 21:18 semioldguy wrote: Of course just because we have Mandalor doesn't mean we should stop doing other things (not that I'm accusing anyone of this, just want to make sure it doesn't happen). We should still decide if we want to double lynch tomorrow. Also all this time we are going to be saving discussing a lynch target can now be used for other areas like finding potential clues or where to go looking for the next red after Mandalor. I'm for the double lynch, as explained in my prior post. I also think our first target should be rice. He has tried the copout post "my generic picture has always caused these kind of false clue accusations", however due to the fact that the paragraph of clues pretty much describes his picture with all the different clues in it, I'm inclined to disagree with the 'generic' argument. However I propose that to prove this, we use SoGs cluecheck on one of the clues in the paragraph of clues, to see if it links to rice + Show Spoiler [Redtooth's post in case people m…] + On March 21 2009 15:04 redtooth wrote: Haha too easy. Rice's profile picture has a few gangsters showing off their thugness to the crowd. If you look closely, many of the descriptions fit perfectly with the picture. All of them are dressed in black, the man in the back has a coat, and the center man is holding a knife near his eye. Now these are generic clues but the key giveaway is "armed to the teeth". If you are so armed then why would you waste your time with a knife? Because you are literally armed to the teeth. Look at the man on the right. He has silverish fangs that could easily be considered weapons. + Show Spoiler [Rice's Profile Picture] + ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/userfiles/29447.jpg?1235820932) Sucks to be you. edited with hyperlink and red coloring. i love to make an impact in each of my posts. once again, no content change. | ||
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On March 21 2009 21:25 semioldguy wrote: @ Bockit I'd say Mandalor has a greater chance statistically to be a Miller than he has that chance based on behavioral analysis (meaning that I believe his actual chances of being Miller to be much less than my post of 18%). Just my opinion though. At this risk of sounding stupid, I think I'm missing something here, can you re-explain what you mean by this? In my post I was saying (I think..) that Mandalor has a smaller chance of being a miller showing up as a mafia to your detective rolecheck, than him being a mafia showing up as a mafia to your detective rolecheck. I was then saying I think the behaviour analysis by Ver and MBH is enough for me to discount this small chance (of him being a miller) and be willing to vote for mandalor on the blind logic of you having called him out and roleclaiming dt. | ||
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On March 21 2009 21:26 semioldguy wrote: I need to use my cluecheck on a Day One clue  Oh shit I forgot about that | ||
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On March 21 2009 21:32 semioldguy wrote: We're saying the same thing... I also think that with the behavioral analysis it is enough to largely toss aside the small chance he is a Miller. Haha ok, sorry. | ||
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On March 21 2009 23:27 RaGe wrote: Hmm, I don't agree with a double lynch. The outcome of Mandalor's lynch will give us important information, and the case against Rice and Tricode seems pretty weak to me. Double lynch isn't for tonight, it's for tomorrow night. | ||
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On March 22 2009 15:02 Fishball wrote: So we already have enough votes for double lynch. I assume we could cast our 2nd lynch in now? Mandalor is pretty much dead no matter what, so I'll just leave my first vote at Rice. I vote my second lynch vote on Humbug edit: typo double lynch is for tomorrow I believe | ||
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On March 22 2009 18:29 Fishball wrote: I'm just going with what Chuiu has on page 50. He specifically wrote "29 (16 needed)", so your argument is null. "The vote must exceed half the number of players voting that day." Plus the number he gave (29, 16) match the requirements sog is describing. | ||
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On March 24 2009 08:42 semioldguy wrote: I definitely want to hear from others how we should handle this as a town. I'm imagining it now, the ultimate mafia ploy. SoG (godfather) says he's a DT, lynches a mafia for us, then these other 'dts' roleclaim to him (mafia) and he announces in the thread that he has now been contacted by the other two dts and that if there are any dts out there that he hasn't been in contact with regarding their dt status, they might have some mafia. Three real dts roleclaim to SoG and the next night we have 3 dead dts. It's possible, I think also that a godfather tradeoff for 3 dts is probably worth it from the mafia perspective. I'm not saying SoG is godfather, more that in the interests of the town, I think the dts shouldn't be roleclaiming to anyone quite just yet. As for the clues to check from day 1 (I realise I'm a bit late in the night now, but just in case you haven't checked yet and are still unsure), I think any of the three dreamflower listed would be good ones to try and pin on a player. | ||
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On March 24 2009 09:02 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: SoG doesn't even have to be godfather because all he can be rolechecked to is Mayor. I forgot about that, an even better tradeoff then. Still conjecture, but enough reason for dts *not* to roleclaim to SoG. | ||
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 Secondly, They're ripping through that list of 12 eh? Feeling a little worried now >_> Thirdly, grats to the vigi who hit tricode. And finally: ## I vote for scooter and humbug I'm not convinced by any means that rice isn't mafia, but I'm happy to go with the consensus on today's vote. Tricode's posts really don't make bloodycobbler look very good. We can't forget that it's very very very likely one of bloodycobbler, semioldguy, mrbabyhands or pyrr is mafia. The benefits of getting into the sheriff or mayor position are just too good for a mafia player for them to ignore it because of the spotlight effect. EDIT: Reworded a sentence. | ||
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Because that seems to be the general consensus of things to do. It might be a good idea to check the previously asscociated with humbug clue (the stuff falling from the pocket) on pyrr. I'll work on a recap much like my day 1 clue recap for the game till this point, we can probably work from there. EDIT: Really late, spelling in the vote message was wrong. | ||
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I normally can't believe people manage to do this but I just lost everything I was typing up. I'll redo it in the morning when I wake up... Something interesting I found out while I was doing it all, the clue about the biker dude, with snakes and cross tattoos, and indecipherable stuff. I wonder if the indecipherable stuff is the most important bit of the clue. I thought this was pretty strong so I looked through all the profiles for stuff like Ascii art in signatures. Unfortunately no ascii art, but Fishball does have a bunch of chinese(?) characters in his signature. Could be counted as indecipherable. It did seem like a stronger clue though when I didn't know nobody had any ascii in their signatures I guess just another thing to keep in mind. | ||
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On March 25 2009 23:05 Fishball wrote: There is a reason I didn't even bother to respond to that so called "musical note" clue mentioned a few pages ago, but this stuff is pretty entertaining when I actually see my name being mentioned I must... resist!!! Hahaha Yeah I've pretty much ignored the stuff linked to me too, due to its tenuous nature there's not much to refute. | ||
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