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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
December 27 2008 08:35 GMT
#1161
1a2a3a4a5a
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
December 27 2008 08:36 GMT
#1162
day 1 actions
Camlito role checked Ver
Qatol role checked Ver
SpiralArchitect used clue check on aznvaliance(turns negative)

Town Lyches Ver

Night 1 actions


Chaoser protects nevake
zeks protects nevake
amber[light] places bomb on zeks
hyperbola rolechecks amber[light]

Mafia Hits
SpiralArchitect
Heros)pink
Tensai176
Camlito
Ace


Day 2 actions
Qatol votechecks folca(2 of 4 on list are mafia)
Town Lynches Spike

Night 2 actiosn
chaoser protects attackzerg, then ace, then attack zerg then back to ace, then to caller, back to attackzerg
zeks protects caller, then scaramanga
hyperbola hits capek
mynock hits Capek(doesn't go through as it overlaps)

Mafia hits
chaoser
Funkie
blue_arrow
meegrean
showtime!

Town lynches attack zerg
qatol checks more_minerals
hyperbola checks scaramanga day 1 list

night
amber[light] places bomb on shadowdrgn
myknock hits dinmsab
Malongo silences ace
zeks protects scaramanga then changes to mynock
Mafia hits
caller x 2
lakrismamma
hyperbola


Day 4
Qatol checks non voters day 1, reveals 5/10 mafia
town lynches kdog3686
night 4
zeks protects scara then to mynock
hatter removes bomb from zeks, adds to kuja, removes from kuja adds to artanis, then to decaf
mynock hits midnightgladius

mafia hit list
infundibulum
scaramanga
truthbringer
roffles

day 5
Town lynches amberlight
amberlights bombs kill decafchicken and shadowdrgn

night 5
mafia kills Zeks and Vivi57, 0cz3z loses one life

day 6
Town lynches 0cz3c

GG town
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
December 27 2008 08:37 GMT
#1163
On December 27 2008 17:33 Ver wrote:
Oh this is over wow. What a silly way to end it.

Our original plans kinda got shot very fast but apparently that blue list was enough to do it.

Capek/Attackzerg dying over Fishball was hilarious though, as I'm pretty sure Fishball would've died if the two mafia stayed silent.

And Ace, was this true, or was it more of the inner circle trying to fool the mafia by posting more random garbage?

Show nested quote +
On December 19 2008 08:17 Ace wrote:
lol yea. I told everyone to just forget giving me too much info since I'm hoping it builds trust that way.

Mafia put me in a box that I can't get out of. I don't know who's idea it was but going I gotta give em credit - it paid off.

I can't even trust the people giving me info because of it



0zc3c you are the true town mascot I loved your posts.


Let's see my thoughts on the balance:
-Votelists are ridiculously overpowered, especially that non-voting one. Actually I do think it's a good idea to kill the inactive mafia; it's just it was sprung without knowledge so half the mafia got stuck on that one haha. But yeah votelists need to be restricted to 1 per DT at best. We actually had some plans to deal with them but they weren't ever used, so I don't think they are *that* bad as mafia can do some (risky/tough) things to counter them.

-Something to make detectives not absolute (miller/godfather) would be great; just to give the possibility that the DT might be wrong. But I am heavily biased on this for obvious reasons

-3 life veterans with 5 KP are essentially invincible. In my original plan I had an entire section dedicated to dealing with Ace but it was never practical to give up highly likely blue hits to finish him fully.

-I feel that the games need to be restricted, at least mostly (like 5 or so slots for newcomers maybe), to limit inactivity which hurts the town extremely unfairly. We did have a couple inactive mafia but they were much less important then the 10 or so inactive/low activity townies and mafia winning this way was really stupid. So far the only game out of the 5 that hasn't been wrecked by inactives was mafia 3 where...there was a veterans only signup limit.

-Silencer is too good. While Ace originally stayed alive because veterans were so powerful, the fact that the mafia were able to shut him up permanently (or essentially that; 3 rounds or whatever is a really long time) was really dumb. Silencer should have extremely few uses; either 1 or 2 and it can't be used on the same person. And I'm kinda leery about the silencer adding to the mafia's KP as that helped us a ton too. It might just be better if he remained as a 'townie wanting mafia to win.'

-Blues need to learn how to play their roles better. Unfortunately the game creator can't balance this but seriously it's a huge deal :/

Don't take this as criticism, just ways to improve the next one. BC definitely did a good job balancing and it was far better than Chuiu's mafia 3 which horribly favored town.


hey ver man missed you after you kinda got randomely assraped sup buddy ^_^
OMG you nasty gurl
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-27 08:41:51
December 27 2008 08:38 GMT
#1164
Nevake Amaterasu Firebat, Soil, sun tan oil, asian women, sponsors, umbrella
ydg Camulus zealot, situational courage(bursts needed to move forward), word combinations, Y D G starts
clazziquai Yu templar, #1 fan, terran, cult member, electronic music, acid jazz, house
attackzerg Ba'al zerg, mutalisk, burgers, desserts, sandwiches, etc…
RebirthofLegend Kali scv, rebirth, man to legend, d-war: rebirth of legend, dragons, monsters
kuja900 Chronus lurker, starleagues, julyzerg, fighting,
Ver Nirrti scv, no hate, obscurity, Napoleon Bonaparte, knowing of what to do
Dinmsab Apophis asian, tributes, comander, empire, terran, vulture, hate, stork references
DecafChicken Anupus coffee, poultry, subway, lemons, professional, wood, defiler, plague
Capek Aries computers, foot stomp, professional but cockey, probe, robot, mechanical, intelligent

Malongo Sokar dragoon, protoss fan, twin or reflection, foreign language


Vigilantes
Mynock Hathor asian, tech jamming, glasses
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
December 27 2008 08:38 GMT
#1165
On December 27 2008 17:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mafia members Code name
Nevake Amaterasu
ydg Camulus
clazziquai Yu
attackzerg Ba'al
RebirthofLegend Kali
kuja900 Chronus
Ver Nirrti (died before appearing)
Dinmsab Apophis
DecafChicken Anupus
Capek Aries

Malongo Sokar


Vigilantes
Mynock Hathor
meegrean Seth (died before appearing)


NOFUCKINGWAI i thought i was camulus for sure
OMG you nasty gurl
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 27 2008 08:41 GMT
#1166
@ver: no that was true :/
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
December 27 2008 08:43 GMT
#1167
On December 27 2008 17:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Nevake Amaterasu Firebat, Soil, sun tan oil, asian women, sponsors, umbrella
ydg Camulus zealot, situational courage(bursts needed to move forward), word combinations, Y D G starts
clazziquai Yu templar, #1 fan, terran, cult member, electronic music, acid jazz, house
attackzerg Ba'al zerg, mutalisk, burgers, desserts, sandwiches, etc…
RebirthofLegend Kali scv, rebirth, man to legend, d-war: rebirth of legend, dragons, monsters
kuja900 Chronus lurker, starleagues, julyzerg, fighting,
Ver Nirrti scv, no hate, obscurity, Napoleon Bonaparte, knowing of what to do
Dinmsab Apophis asian, tributes, comander, empire, terran, vulture, hate, stork references
DecafChicken Anupus coffee, poultry, subway, lemons, professional, wood, defiler, plague
Capek Aries computers, foot stomp, professional but cockey, probe, robot, mechanical, intelligent

Malongo Sokar dragoon, protoss fan, twin or reflection, foreign language


Vigilantes
Mynock Hathor asian, tech jamming, glasses


but but you google camulus you get god of war i was scared to even post to flaunt my siggy after i googled that lol
OMG you nasty gurl
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 27 2008 08:43 GMT
#1168
yeah, Ace was too much of a problem and we couldn't kill him. It would cost us too much to kill a vet, which isn't that much of a big deal role. We seriously considered bombing him multiple times because we wanted to kill the entire circle at the same time and throw the town into chaos. With Ace being a Vet and the paramedics being around, we couldn't really. The loss of the suicide bomber also degraded our KP which we just couldn't afford to do based on other circumstances.

and I disagree about this being a gay way to end the game, admittedly I am biased since it was my idea, but that fucking list gave us no choice. The only mafia who were not raped by a list check were me and clazziquai. However the other one hit like 5/6 mafia or something didn't it? We could of waited for the town to make an error in voting, which would cost them the game. However I figured why bother waiting for the town to fuck up when we can just make them fuck up.

So we made them fuck up, we forced the lynch in our favor to get rid of some opposition. My original idea was to target mynock with the vote switch, but they chose oczec, so we came out on top either way. We secured our 3KP for another day, while killing someone we didn't want around anymore. Essentially clinching the game for us.

Hence the 1a2a3a4a5a6a spamming.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
December 27 2008 08:47 GMT
#1169
On December 27 2008 17:33 Ver wrote:
-Votelists are ridiculously overpowered, especially that non-voting one. Actually I do think it's a good idea to kill the inactive mafia; it's just it was sprung without knowledge so half the mafia got stuck on that one haha. But yeah votelists need to be restricted to 1 per DT at best. We actually had some plans to deal with them but they weren't ever used, so I don't think they are *that* bad as mafia can do some (risky/tough) things to counter them.

-Something to make detectives not absolute (miller/godfather) would be great; just to give the possibility that the DT might be wrong. But I am heavily biased on this for obvious reasons


One solution could be to make regular mafia members appear the same as a towny on a role check, and improve the DT role some other way, such as letting them role check and list check on the same night. The way it's currently set up, the detectives have nothing better to do than role check a veteran member at the beginning, and they either find a good person they can trust or a mafia that really needs to be eliminated. Ace got screwed 2 games ago; you got screwed this game.

-I feel that the games need to be restricted, at least mostly (like 5 or so slots for newcomers maybe), to limit inactivity which hurts the town extremely unfairly. We did have a couple inactive mafia but they were much less important then the 10 or so inactive/low activity townies and mafia winning this way was really stupid. So far the only game out of the 5 that hasn't been wrecked by inactives was mafia 3 where...there was a veterans only signup limit.


The Christmas season is partially to blame. I was certainly less active because I didn't have time due to the holidays.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
December 27 2008 08:48 GMT
#1170
On December 27 2008 17:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Nevake Amaterasu Firebat, Soil, sun tan oil, asian women, sponsors, umbrella
ydg Camulus zealot, situational courage(bursts needed to move forward), word combinations, Y D G starts
clazziquai Yu templar, #1 fan, terran, cult member, electronic music, acid jazz, house
attackzerg Ba'al zerg, mutalisk, burgers, desserts, sandwiches, etc…
RebirthofLegend Kali scv, rebirth, man to legend, d-war: rebirth of legend, dragons, monsters
kuja900 Chronus lurker, starleagues, julyzerg, fighting,
Ver Nirrti scv, no hate, obscurity, Napoleon Bonaparte, knowing of what to do
Dinmsab Apophis asian, tributes, comander, empire, terran, vulture, hate, stork references
DecafChicken Anupus coffee, poultry, subway, lemons, professional, wood, defiler, plague
Capek Aries computers, foot stomp, professional but cockey, probe, robot, mechanical, intelligent

Malongo Sokar dragoon, protoss fan, twin or reflection, foreign language


Vigilantes
Mynock Hathor asian, tech jamming, glasses


HAHA oh shit i got most of us right
when I saw the clues for clazz I was like holy crap that is so obvious. Decaf too.
and I was like *facepalm* at some people's clue analysis, like Vivi's of Rebirth, lol.
No one believed my bs clue analysis though
Was Seth Hyperbola? And the "as dead as dead could be" a clue?
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
December 27 2008 08:55 GMT
#1171
Hyperbola was Seth, and it was the object he threw. Wiki hyperbola and the items that use that process, like sundials and the like, and he gets linked that way. It was a really far reaching clue, but i had to throw them some sort of bone.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
December 27 2008 09:00 GMT
#1172
wow.

Mafia you were all so much better then me .

GG
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
December 27 2008 09:02 GMT
#1173
On December 27 2008 17:35 Scaramanga wrote:
1a2a3a4a5a


its 1a2a3a4a5a6a dumbass there is 6 of us left get it ^_^
OMG you nasty gurl
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
December 27 2008 09:03 GMT
#1174
bah I kept thinking it was a reference to like latin and the romans so I was suggesting midnight gladius, etc., and I never really made the "arc=hyperbola" connection
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
December 27 2008 09:11 GMT
#1175
Yay medics love me.
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
December 27 2008 09:14 GMT
#1176
gg town. mafia outplayed you badly
Teamliquidian townie
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
December 27 2008 09:27 GMT
#1177
i should not be alive right now, town you all failed massively

OMG you nasty gurl
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-27 09:28:57
December 27 2008 09:28 GMT
#1178
On December 27 2008 18:14 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
gg town. mafia outplayed you badly

EMBRACING THE HUSTLE SINCE 1989 BITCHEZZZZZZ
Edit: 1a2a3a4a5a6a

and I am happy you are alive kuja <3 you may wallow in a pool of our victory.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-27 09:40:58
December 27 2008 09:39 GMT
#1179
Fucking look at those night 1 medic protections..

see why i was pissed?

Lucky.

+ funkie was afk doing nothing even though he posted in thread...
sAviOr...
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
December 27 2008 09:46 GMT
#1180
On December 27 2008 18:28 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2008 18:14 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
gg town. mafia outplayed you badly

EMBRACING THE HUSTLE SINCE 1989 BITCHEZZZZZZ
Edit: 1a2a3a4a5a6a

and I am happy you are alive kuja <3 you may wallow in a pool of our victory.


that loser capek damn sure aint doing no wallowing
OMG you nasty gurl
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