[GG] Team Liquid Mafia - Resurrection - Page 19

On December 17 2008 04:13 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
if we could associate "robot" to any clue it could be the electricity though

On December 17 2008 04:17 Spike wrote:
lol, after rereading day 2.

what sharp object? electricity = spike?

i'm still fine with being lynched but the clues don't fit me at all.

On December 17 2008 04:17 Caller wrote:

works for me ^^

On December 17 2008 04:21 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:


Well i was a bit hasty on that. Yu was smiling when he killed Spiral, i am not sure whether robots can smile. But maybe hes an android or cyborg or something, and still has a human face. If capek is mafia and if the robot idea is even a clue, it's also possible it has not yet appeared in a night post. (I should think things out better before i post so hastily). Furthermore, capek's postings after Night 1 make me think he be a townie. While Fishball and Spikes' behavior lead me to think they are mafia, I don't see anything in the clues yet that relates to them :S

On December 17 2008 04:22 Caller wrote:


i think the spike to the face is good though.

remember, blue_arrow seemed to be good last game but he was scummy.

and fishball is being fishball, as usual.

On December 17 2008 04:52 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
So I have been doing a lot lately, but I think I have enough time to go over my thoughts on this mafia game so far. This will mainly be about Ace and what I have observed so far and my thoughts on what we should do.

At first, I thought Ace should be trusted. I thought he was a DT who checked Ver in search of an ally to start forming a town circle around. My reasoning here is this. Ace is a very good player, and last game Ver was also exceptionally useful on the towns side. I believe Ace PMed him looking for someone to start up a town circle with, someone he could PM and talk about plans, strategies and thoughts. So he checked him. In something that is both good and bad, Ver popped red. Ver would be a very instrumental player for the mafia or the town, whoever got him. So Ace couldn't exactly ignore that.

That is where I thought he designed this whole medic/martyr plan from. He needed to be open about it and not make this entirely behind the scenes as he was initially trying to do. Now that he found out Ver, I believe he had to make the town circle moderately open and hope for adequate protection using martyr and medics.

As the night fell this seemed like a good idea, we lynched Ver he was red, the drama progressed. The day post came and two DT's are now found dead. This was extremely strange to me. The mafia either has some sort of informant or something, or statistics make a fool out of us. There is a 3/40 chance of them hitting a dt, then a 2/39 chance. IT isn't high for them to take down two.

Now for the next thing that doesn't make sense. I didn't post earlier hoping the mafia wouldn't notice this inconsistency. Ace said that "A little birdie" told him that Ver was a mafioso. That doesn't make sense. A DT gets ONE role use per day/night cycle. The DT couldn't use both role checks to check BOTH Ver and Ace. Which means the Dt would have had to blind trust Ace. Which isn't a smart thing to do without any evidence to back it up.

So that means Ace was the the DT, not someone who PMed him. Then again, the blind trust thing is possible. But unlikely.

Now the next thing. Ace gets mad several posts after the day post about how hes a Veteran and how he took a hit, and how the medics/martyrs didn't do anything.

Now to me this is "...Wait, What? Ace is a Vet?" How the hell does that make sense? It just really doesn't. Two DT's died. Ace claimed that the only one he knew was a DT was Camlito. Now the only person who an confirm whether or not Ace is lying is dead. Also he would of had to have been the one who role claimed, and now he is dead.

Camlito was very smart. He ran the lucchese family last game who would of won, I can't see him blind trusting Ace the way it would now have had to happen. During this entire period I have been PMing Ace, Upon reading that post I start PMing him with my doubts about his motives and how I don't really trust him as much anymore.

I asked for an explanation for all this, to which Ace didn't give one. I told him that if he didn't start trying to explain, I would just post everything I thought which I think would discredit him a lot.

Thus we come to this, I am debating on whether or not I should share the PMs. I will later on if I deem it necessary. For now, I don't know what to do with Ace, but I would say take everything he says with a grain of salt until we have something set in motion.

On December 17 2008 04:52 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
So I have been doing a lot lately, but I think I have enough time to go over my thoughts on this mafia game so far. This will mainly be about Ace and what I have observed so far and my thoughts on what we should do.

At first, I thought Ace should be trusted. I thought he was a DT who checked Ver in search of an ally to start forming a town circle around. My reasoning here is this. Ace is a very good player, and last game Ver was also exceptionally useful on the towns side. I believe Ace PMed him looking for someone to start up a town circle with, someone he could PM and talk about plans, strategies and thoughts. So he checked him. In something that is both good and bad, Ver popped red. Ver would be a very instrumental player for the mafia or the town, whoever got him. So Ace couldn't exactly ignore that.

That is where I thought he designed this whole medic/martyr plan from. He needed to be open about it and not make this entirely behind the scenes as he was initially trying to do. Now that he found out Ver, I believe he had to make the town circle moderately open and hope for adequate protection using martyr and medics.

As the night fell this seemed like a good idea, we lynched Ver he was red, the drama progressed. The day post came and two DT's are now found dead. This was extremely strange to me. The mafia either has some sort of informant or something, or statistics make a fool out of us. There is a 3/40 chance of them hitting a dt, then a 2/39 chance. IT isn't high for them to take down two.

Now for the next thing that doesn't make sense. I didn't post earlier hoping the mafia wouldn't notice this inconsistency. Ace said that "A little birdie" told him that Ver was a mafioso. That doesn't make sense. A DT gets ONE role use per day/night cycle. The DT couldn't use both role checks to check BOTH Ver and Ace. Which means the Dt would have had to blind trust Ace. Which isn't a smart thing to do without any evidence to back it up.

So that means Ace was the the DT, not someone who PMed him. Then again, the blind trust thing is possible. But unlikely.

Now the next thing. Ace gets mad several posts after the day post about how hes a Veteran and how he took a hit, and how the medics/martyrs didn't do anything.

Now to me this is "...Wait, What? Ace is a Vet?" How the hell does that make sense? It just really doesn't. Two DT's died. Ace claimed that the only one he knew was a DT was Camlito. Now the only person who an confirm whether or not Ace is lying is dead. Also he would of had to have been the one who role claimed, and now he is dead.

Camlito was very smart. He ran the lucchese family last game who would of won, I can't see him blind trusting Ace the way it would now have had to happen. During this entire period I have been PMing Ace, Upon reading that post I start PMing him with my doubts about his motives and how I don't really trust him as much anymore.

I asked for an explanation for all this, to which Ace didn't give one. I told him that if he didn't start trying to explain, I would just post everything I thought which I think would discredit him a lot.

Thus we come to this, I am debating on whether or not I should share the PMs. I will later on if I deem it necessary. For now, I don't know what to do with Ace, but I would say take everything he says with a grain of salt until we have something set in motion.

On December 17 2008 04:59 Caller wrote:


I can confirm that the DT in question is in fact a different person. They had tried to remain anonymous but a silly person leaked the name of the DT to several others, including Ace.

edit: I can also confirm that the DT rolechecked independently.

On December 17 2008 05:02 chaoser wrote:


wait, do you mean the dt that ace said told him ver was mafia was NOT camilot or that the dt that checked how many mafia voted folca is a different dt?