Ace's Mafia World! - Page 81

On November 26 2008 12:15 LucasWoJ wrote:



Absolutely false. Plexa's army of zombies looked far more suspicious than MTF and Caller during the election. He barely ran a campaign, he's still not really a part of this game (though, I guess he could be writing articles), and he managed to get considerable enthusiastic support. Caller wasn't at all suspicious from what I can recall; what are you specifically referring to? It almost seems like you're pointing back at things that never existed (or that I've most likely forgotten, in which case, enlighten me. )

On November 26 2008 12:20 SpiralArchitect wrote:


I assumed since 4/5 died last night and teh AoC died on the same night that they died for that reason. I also was unclear since the description does not say "You can only do this if elected" It say the town may be in trouble if an AoC is elected to office.

You would kill your own body guards to say exactly what you just said. Why would someone who is mafia need bodyguards eh? Operating under the assumption that you are indeed mafia or MTF is, or both of your are, everything that has happened so far is in your favor. Four out of five dying means nothing if you do not need to be protected, both paramedics are dead and a DT is dead. While the mafia has only lost one prominent figure, which was useless unless elected to office.

Not posting is not a good reason to cast suspicion on someone. Especially when not a single clue has pointed to Plexa this entire game. He could be busy in RL or on TL doing things, either way not posting is not suspicious, its lazy and not good for the game but its clearly not suspicious. Plexa is very good at analyzing clues from what I hear and the two of you have advocated his guilt since the beginning of the game. Plexa dieing would be in your advantage, I find it funny that you are still trying to push for his guilt without ever really going all out about it. I think it is because you want Plexa to be dead but you want someone else to do the dirty work so you arent noticed as mafia.

Clearly nobody really payed attention during the campaign because I have no idea how someone so blatantly clueless or someone is who obviously working towards mafia motives got elected.

On November 26 2008 12:22 SpiralArchitect wrote:

I think that the Plexa army of Zombies is A) Over hyped and B) Due to the fact that he is one of TLs most beloved writers and his name is red. Based purely on the fact that he is staff and a good writer I would vote for him rather than vote for somebody else who made a one line post about their candidacy.

On November 26 2008 12:25 TranceStorm wrote:
Caller, I think your lists are too large - narrowing down the votes from that many people would take too long (Mafia would kill everyone by then). I think some votes should be diverted to other perhaps confirmed innocent people.

On November 26 2008 12:25 Caller wrote:


an aoc has to be elected for it to work
the aocs just died is all and the bgs happened to die unfortunately as well.
The reason we need bodyguards, if we are mafia, is that the other mafia will almost certainly hit us without the bodyguards. this should be self explanatory.
And we do need to be protected. the other mafia would kill us otherwise.

Not posting or inactivity is a good reason to cast suspicion, especially if people end up voting for Plexa in massive droves. He is good at clues, but he hasn't done any, and yet he's clearly been watching the thread as he posts every now and then to make an innocuous comment.

However, I'm not sure Plexa is guilty yet because he may be a blue. Instead, i'm focusing on people who randomly voted for him instead.

AND AGAIN, I CANT DO ANYTHING AT NIGHT, IM A GODDAMN PARDONER AND I HAVE NO ABILITIES AT NIGHT.

On November 26 2008 12:27 Caller wrote:


lol thank you for emphasizing my point

and i didnt make a one line post and neither did mtf we both had pretty thorough posts about our candidacy

i'm going to do calculus hw now, please follow the voting plan pleaseeeeee

On November 26 2008 12:32 LucasWoJ wrote:
I'm sorry Spiral but I'm getting more and more convinced that you're part of that mafia with each post that you make. Your continual use of the word "clearly" to cover up your deeply flawed and mostly lacking logic as an obvious fact is quite disconcerting, to say the least.

Not posting anyone is a very valid reason to arouse suspicions. Any counter-argument can sort of portray why the opposite's validity is not "clear." Say I'm being accused of being mafia. I do some good ol' fake clue analysis and temporarily throw the town off my back. Then I sit out for the entire game. That's suspicious.

Let's try another one. Take MTF last game: he hid himself in the topic and was found to be mafia.

Behavioral analysis generally serves as a better tool than clues in both online and RL mafia games.


I don't think they're pushing for Plexa's guilt at this moment. The implication is definitely there, but Caller isn't even voting to lyncg Plexa today.

On November 26 2008 12:40 SpiralArchitect wrote:

That is why Plexas guilt is highly suspicious man. He even said he is having some RL issues lately and has been doing alot of work around TL. Not posting could mean a million things, yes one of those is that he is using it as part of his plan to make people think he is not mafia, but more likely than not hes just busy.

I fail to see where my logic is deeply flawed clearly Caller and MTF have been actively seeking a position of power and since then have used that position to do what? Absoloutely nothing besides pardon BloodyCobbler. Have the first two days events done anything besides benefit the mafia? Clearly not. Ill state this again, 4/5 bodyguards dead (without the AoC) wow thats some amazing luck? 2/2 Paramedics dead? Wow thats some even more amazing luck! 1 DT dead? WOW THE LUCK IS JUST OFF THE CHAIN AMAZING!!!!! 3 regular mafiosos dead? Doesnt hurt mafia and it doesnt help the town, but it casts suspicion elsewhere and gives Caller/MTF a good excuse to say hes been doing something.

On November 26 2008 12:43 LaXerCannon wrote:


Just a small correction, 2 DTs are dead

On November 26 2008 13:05 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
ace hasn't tossed up the vote thread/blog yet right?

On November 26 2008 13:05 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
ace hasn't tossed up the vote thread/blog yet right?

On November 26 2008 12:58 MTF wrote:
What thread are you even reading from, Spiral?

First off:

Five mafia from one single family died.
Two DT's have died.
Two (one of which was lynched by me upon election because of her behavior) out of five Paramedics have died.
One Veteran died.
Four Bodyguards have died.

Now, while I'm suspicious about the bodyguards, too, it doesn't make any sense for you to point the finger definitively at either me or Caller. First off, one bodyguard was killed by one family and the other three were killed by the other family. Several possibilities follow because of this:

- We're both mafia in different families.
- Just one of us is and the other side got lucky with one or three hits.
- Neither of us is and the mafia just got lucky.
- Someone else got the list, though Caller claims he told nobody and I know I didn't.

Now, if you argue for either of the first two, you have to consider why we'd kill our own bodyguards. You seem to think that it's okay that we kill all but one off on the very first night. Not only is this an incredibly stupid move, as it casts suspicion on the people that everyone knows has the bodyguard list, but it also leaves Caller and I more exposed; being mafia is not equal to being safe, as was demonstrated by the demolishing of Yamaguchi-guri last night. Your reasoning in that matter is flawed.

Also flawed is your continued assumption that Caller and I "ran on the same ticket" for power. Let me say again: I voted for Ver and wanted Ver in, Caller voted for Ver and wanted Ver in. We both changed after the whole Plexa situation came about, which isn't invalid now just because the circumstances supporting it at the time no longer look appealing. They applied at the time.

You seem to be arguing from the position that me and Caller are tag-teaming here when it's been the opposite since the beginning, and that there's a witch hunt after Plexa just because of what was brought up during the mayoral election.

Now while Caller still clearly has his suspicions, this isn't the same thing you're running on about.

Honestly, I think you just enjoy stirring up shit.