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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 18 2008 06:11 GMT
#741
Plexa: 14
bumatlarge
SpiralArchitect
Mandalor
Mhugues
Delanzia
Wurm
Rage
Mischief6000
T_co
MyHeroNoob
Faronel
Inertinept
Vivi57
malongo

MTF 19
Lenwe
Zbir
BloodyC0bbler
Ecomania
Bugzitoonl
Ninja4ever
0cz3c
blue_arrow
Caller
Mynock
Amber[Light]
JeeJee
Fishball
HeRoS)Pink
randombum
softer
Qatol
laxercannon
Scaramanga

Caller: 19
Showtime!
Clazziquai
JoxxOr
Cgrinker (I think?)
Midnight Gladius
Yubee
Waterghostclawdragon
Infundibulum
Ver
Trancestorm
Camlito (fixed )
MTF
lakrismamma
Truthbringer
Spike
Pyrrhuloxia
Bockit
ydg
LucasWoJ

Ver: 5
Versatile
ShadowDrgn
Empyrean
Double D
KlassyK

Abstain: 2
Ulszz
RebirthOfLeGenD

I think this is the vote count. Again, a lot of this info is callers and he might have missed something accidentally or intentionally and I may have made a mistake, too, so please don't crash the world on top of me if it turns out to be off.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-18 06:11:58
November 18 2008 06:11 GMT
#742
rofl, you guys are pulling me into this game. i was planning on spending this game of mafia (my first online with tl.net) sitting back and letting people who knew more plot everything out ><;;
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 18 2008 06:12 GMT
#743
we look good Pyrrhuloxia, although we only have 59/84 votes counted.
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
November 18 2008 06:19 GMT
#744
On November 18 2008 15:05 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2008 15:03 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On November 18 2008 15:00 malongo wrote:
how are you going to give DTs time to check something that cant be checked?

Blues shouldn't give their roles to the mayor prior to being checked by the dt at the first opportunity because if the mayor is red then the mafia have a gold mine of a target list...


YES and to those who are still zombie to plexa

Show nested quote +
On November 18 2008 12:40 MTF wrote:
On November 18 2008 12:32 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I don't get where all this anti plexa stuff is coming from, can someone sum it up? Is it because he would be too good as a mayor if he were mafioso or something? Or is there another reason?


These are my reasons. Please keep in mind that I don't feel as strongly as I did earlier in regards to the possible Showtime!/Plexa connection, but am not completely disregarding it at this point.

+ Show Spoiler +
The Case Against Plexa & Co.

First, Plexa puts himself up for candidacy:

On November 17 2008 16:22 Plexa wrote:
Hi everyone, i think i'd be a good candidate for pardoner i dont have the huge plans like past mayors have had but i do play a very good supporting character! And will assist ably in the victory of the town!


I wouldn't call this out of character for Plexa. It's just a short, friendly post saying he'd like to be considered. I myself voted for him because I want him to stay alive and, having played closely with him before, know he can organize town. However, then the vote list got put up, with me and Plexa tied with six each, which led to:

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 17 2008 22:44 Showtime! wrote:
Why in the blue hell do people want MTF as mayor?

He's one of the worst clue interpreters I've ever seen. Sure, he puts a lot of effort into it but Jesus he's usually wrong.

##I'll stand by my single vote for Caller in the meantime. That is unless he's decided to stop running.

EDIT (just wanted to add new info): Ver, I agree. Perhaps you should run for mayor, but keep in mind all the sheep are likely going to vote for Plexa (decent choice) or MTF (I think everyone knows where I stand on this one now).

I've played with Caller in the past. He's smart. :. I stand by him for now.


and

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2008 23:11 Showtime! wrote:
MTF commits a lot of red herrings and he goes off on many different tangents. It's very bad.

Last game it was his downfall. He was trying effortlessly to get the Town off the mafia's tail and it failed horribly.

Clue interpretation is only but one side to the coin. We need someone who is fairly organized and has clear thoughts. Someone such as Caller or yourself.

Plexa would be an ideal candidate for Pardoner. He's great at writing articles, but how good is he at running a Town?

Plexa most likely got a Specialty Role this time around as there are many.


Now, Showtime has no reason to hate me, so I know he's not defacing me for the sake of anomosity. He also ignored the fact that I was extremely accurate in Chuiu's second game of Mafia and instead displays town's excellent game in Chuiu's third game as proof against my abilities. At the very same time, he's saying that Plexa should get in as Pardoner, and then pretends to play devils' advocate by saying "but how good is he really?" without answering. I think he may have been trying to bait someone into answering for him so he didn't have to do all the promotion himself. Finally, he asserts that Plexa may be blue this game, just because of their numbers.

All very weak and heavy-handed. It's a pretty obvious attempt to sway people to vote Plexa instead of me as we were neck and neck in votes at the time of his posting.

And then came the nails in the coffin:
+ Show Spoiler +

On November 18 2008 01:05 KlassyK wrote:
Having read/skimmed over ~17 pages, ## I vote Plexa for Mayor

I've read games that have been played on here, and I think Plexa has the intelligence and leadership ability to run the town well.



On November 18 2008 03:54 mischief6000 wrote:
Having read/skimmed over 20 pages, ## I vote Plexa for Mayor

I think Plexa has the intelligence and leadership ability to run the town



I can't help feeling sorry for Plexa, as the Showtime stuff only made him suspect to me, but this mistake by mischief and Klassy is going to bury their chances. I now strongly suspect he is an AoC or Godfather, and that Showtime, mischief, and Klassy are mafia in his family.

I would kindly like to ask everyone who voted Plexa now to rescind your votes and place them elsewhere, as I truly feel we've got four mafia at the very beginning of this game.


IF YOU NOTICE PLEXA IS, IF NOTHING ELSE, SUSPICIOUS


NONONONONO
Cant you see man, these dudes are mafia, their sacrifying themselves for plexa so he dosent get mayor and we may lynch him, if not hes not mayor and they just kill him off
We need to get plexa as a pardoner because hes the best one we've got at clue decyphering,
people change some votes for plexa
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
November 18 2008 06:21 GMT
#745
scar you love egging people on don't you?

lol
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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-18 06:22:15
November 18 2008 06:22 GMT
#746
Please tell me you are trolling scar....

Because Once called out plexa hasn't posted....Once... I take this as a sign he is conceding his guilt and calling it a day.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 18 2008 06:22 GMT
#747
On November 18 2008 15:19 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2008 15:05 randombum wrote:
On November 18 2008 15:03 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On November 18 2008 15:00 malongo wrote:
how are you going to give DTs time to check something that cant be checked?

Blues shouldn't give their roles to the mayor prior to being checked by the dt at the first opportunity because if the mayor is red then the mafia have a gold mine of a target list...


YES and to those who are still zombie to plexa

On November 18 2008 12:40 MTF wrote:
On November 18 2008 12:32 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I don't get where all this anti plexa stuff is coming from, can someone sum it up? Is it because he would be too good as a mayor if he were mafioso or something? Or is there another reason?


These are my reasons. Please keep in mind that I don't feel as strongly as I did earlier in regards to the possible Showtime!/Plexa connection, but am not completely disregarding it at this point.

+ Show Spoiler +
The Case Against Plexa & Co.

First, Plexa puts himself up for candidacy:

On November 17 2008 16:22 Plexa wrote:
Hi everyone, i think i'd be a good candidate for pardoner i dont have the huge plans like past mayors have had but i do play a very good supporting character! And will assist ably in the victory of the town!


I wouldn't call this out of character for Plexa. It's just a short, friendly post saying he'd like to be considered. I myself voted for him because I want him to stay alive and, having played closely with him before, know he can organize town. However, then the vote list got put up, with me and Plexa tied with six each, which led to:

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 17 2008 22:44 Showtime! wrote:
Why in the blue hell do people want MTF as mayor?

He's one of the worst clue interpreters I've ever seen. Sure, he puts a lot of effort into it but Jesus he's usually wrong.

##I'll stand by my single vote for Caller in the meantime. That is unless he's decided to stop running.

EDIT (just wanted to add new info): Ver, I agree. Perhaps you should run for mayor, but keep in mind all the sheep are likely going to vote for Plexa (decent choice) or MTF (I think everyone knows where I stand on this one now).

I've played with Caller in the past. He's smart. :. I stand by him for now.


and

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2008 23:11 Showtime! wrote:
MTF commits a lot of red herrings and he goes off on many different tangents. It's very bad.

Last game it was his downfall. He was trying effortlessly to get the Town off the mafia's tail and it failed horribly.

Clue interpretation is only but one side to the coin. We need someone who is fairly organized and has clear thoughts. Someone such as Caller or yourself.

Plexa would be an ideal candidate for Pardoner. He's great at writing articles, but how good is he at running a Town?

Plexa most likely got a Specialty Role this time around as there are many.


Now, Showtime has no reason to hate me, so I know he's not defacing me for the sake of anomosity. He also ignored the fact that I was extremely accurate in Chuiu's second game of Mafia and instead displays town's excellent game in Chuiu's third game as proof against my abilities. At the very same time, he's saying that Plexa should get in as Pardoner, and then pretends to play devils' advocate by saying "but how good is he really?" without answering. I think he may have been trying to bait someone into answering for him so he didn't have to do all the promotion himself. Finally, he asserts that Plexa may be blue this game, just because of their numbers.

All very weak and heavy-handed. It's a pretty obvious attempt to sway people to vote Plexa instead of me as we were neck and neck in votes at the time of his posting.

And then came the nails in the coffin:
+ Show Spoiler +

On November 18 2008 01:05 KlassyK wrote:
Having read/skimmed over ~17 pages, ## I vote Plexa for Mayor

I've read games that have been played on here, and I think Plexa has the intelligence and leadership ability to run the town well.



On November 18 2008 03:54 mischief6000 wrote:
Having read/skimmed over 20 pages, ## I vote Plexa for Mayor

I think Plexa has the intelligence and leadership ability to run the town



I can't help feeling sorry for Plexa, as the Showtime stuff only made him suspect to me, but this mistake by mischief and Klassy is going to bury their chances. I now strongly suspect he is an AoC or Godfather, and that Showtime, mischief, and Klassy are mafia in his family.

I would kindly like to ask everyone who voted Plexa now to rescind your votes and place them elsewhere, as I truly feel we've got four mafia at the very beginning of this game.


IF YOU NOTICE PLEXA IS, IF NOTHING ELSE, SUSPICIOUS


NONONONONO
Cant you see man, these dudes are mafia, their sacrifying themselves for plexa so he dosent get mayor and we may lynch him, if not hes not mayor and they just kill him off
We need to get plexa as a pardoner because hes the best one we've got at clue decyphering,
people change some votes for plexa


dude plexa is the most suspicious person in this game he barely said anything and bajillions of people are voting for him and not for other people who have been standing up and saying shit

you've got to be kidding me
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
November 18 2008 06:25 GMT
#748
Dude im not kidding, he didnt post for like 5 days in the other one because his dad was in hosbital
people have reasons for not posting and you cant claim guilt just from that
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 18 2008 06:26 GMT
#749
I guess I'd love to change to MTF / Ver at this point but I think don't think we can make this shift at this hour without opening to door to Plexa (and continual progression of silent voters). I think SpiralArchitect has a possible point that Plexa has a lot of name recognition but I didn't know any of the candidates except Plexa prior to this thread and I've gotten informed and if I had voted for Plexa out of lack of time to read I still would have put "plexa because he's the only name i recognize since he does those awesome articles and plays baller in the showmatches and i dont have time to read a billion freaking pages" or something like that. Plus, no one is more suspicious than Plexa supporter mischief at this point.

I am worried about the caller thing but Showtime was the one that brought up this confusing PM mess and he's concluded that we should still go for Caller / MTF / Ver. And asking for roles maybe could make sense given that so many people are inactive and days are going to go so fast but i'm still worried...

Also, I think I'm being way to freaking active (especially since I got this fricking paper to write). The first night is going to be the night of a million long knives (20 Mafia KP!!! ) so good thing I'm going to be busy for the next two weeks.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 18 2008 06:27 GMT
#750
On November 18 2008 15:25 Scaramanga wrote:
Dude im not kidding, he didnt post for like 5 days in the other one because his dad was in hosbital
people have reasons for not posting and you cant claim guilt just from that


he had enough time to post a two sentence shit and canvas 90,000 supporters somehow you must be fucking kidding me. on top of all the other weird shit that you did i'm really fucking suspicious and if it wasnt for the fact that i'm lynching mischief you would be next.

fuck i'm sounding like incontrol

i need sleep.
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
November 18 2008 06:28 GMT
#751
Having read/skimmed over ~38 pages, I think I'll vote Plexa for Mayor

I think Plexa has the intelligence and leadership ability to run the town in a good way.


Kidding <<

I think that the thing with the Plexa supporters is that they all didn't say any reason for their vote, or said that they didnt't read throught the topic, which is the easy way to go when there is arguments againts Plexa but you still want to vote for him for dubious reason. On the other part, similar posts, as with KlassyK and Mischief, could really be some mistake made in a haste to post/not reading the topic. I agree that Mischief should be one of the first to get lynched (especially with her response to ShadowDrgn's PM). KlassyK not sure about.

Raeding throught all the topic took quite some time, and I couldn't get on TL earlier today so I missed much of the action ><

Anyway, I reailly wanted to see Ver in position. I guess there is no mass switching because it's too late?

Then
## I vote for Caller.
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SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 18 2008 06:29 GMT
#752
Ok caller is really suspicious here. First he has run his campaign on nothing but slander of his opponents which makes me think he fights dirty, second he has already asked for people to send him their roles (personally I find this suspicious even if you are already the mayor). He then goes on to say theres some massive army of Plexazombies but nobody has even mass voted for plexa like they are for him.

Caller has alot of votes behind him and alot of people trying to sway the vote. Seems he has a tight knit syndicate of workers or even brethren, I wonder what thats called...

Caller also is asking to know your roles before the voting is even closed. On the other hand the mighty Plexa has merely entered into the race with only his reputation to sway your vote.

Caller has tried to throw muck on his opponents, mainly Plexa. In the end I hope he gets the same back.

Caller has shown some serious signs of being a mafioso. Lets put Plexa in the hot seat and have a trusted member of TL rather than some slanderous wannabe mafioso.

[image loading]

<marquee><font size=5>DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS MAN TO BE MAYOR? VOTE PLEXA!</font></marquee>
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 18 2008 06:30 GMT
#753
Plexa: 14
bumatlarge
SpiralArchitect
Mandalor
Mhugues
Delanzia
Wurm
Rage
Mischief6000
T_co
MyHeroNoob
Faronel
Inertinept
Vivi57
malongo

MTF 19
Lenwe
Zbir
BloodyC0bbler
Ecomania
Bugzitoonl
Ninja4ever
0cz3c
blue_arrow
Caller
Mynock
Amber[Light]
JeeJee
Fishball
HeRoS)Pink
randombum
softer
Qatol
laxercannon
Scaramanga

Caller: 20
Showtime!
Clazziquai
JoxxOr
Cgrinker (I think?)
Midnight Gladius
Yubee
Waterghostclawdragon
Infundibulum
Ver
Trancestorm
Camlito (fixed )
MTF
lakrismamma
Truthbringer
Spike
Pyrrhuloxia
Bockit
ydg
LucasWoJ
CynanMachae (funny vote post lol)

Ver: 5
Versatile
ShadowDrgn
Empyrean
Double D
KlassyK

Abstain: 2
Ulszz
RebirthOfLeGenD
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 18 2008 06:32 GMT
#754
On November 18 2008 15:29 SpiralArchitect wrote:
Ok caller is really suspicious here. First he has run his campaign on nothing but slander of his opponents which makes me think he fights dirty, second he has already asked for people to send him their roles (personally I find this suspicious even if you are already the mayor). He then goes on to say theres some massive army of Plexazombies but nobody has even mass voted for plexa like they are for him.

Caller has alot of votes behind him and alot of people trying to sway the vote. Seems he has a tight knit syndicate of workers or even brethren, I wonder what thats called...

Caller also is asking to know your roles before the voting is even closed. On the other hand the mighty Plexa has merely entered into the race with only his reputation to sway your vote.

Caller has tried to throw muck on his opponents, mainly Plexa. In the end I hope he gets the same back.

Caller has shown some serious signs of being a mafioso. Lets put Plexa in the hot seat and have a trusted member of TL rather than some slanderous wannabe mafioso.

[image loading]

<marquee><font size=5>DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS MAN TO BE MAYOR? VOTE PLEXA!</font></marquee>


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Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
November 18 2008 06:33 GMT
#755
It's not just that Scar.

MTF's reasoning here:

It was his subtlety: he would like to be Pardoner like randombum was before him.

The zombie bandwagon of copying and pasting.

*The Town doesn't have much to go on but the 'Plexa list' would be a good start.

Plexa is much too smart to mass PM his entire familia to vote for him. In fact, it would be the opposite. Plexa doesn't normally like the limelight.

Furthermore, he would come up with an extensive platform on his own.

Not only that, but he probably ask a few of his familia to encourage people to support him.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 18 2008 06:38 GMT
#756
On November 18 2008 15:33 Showtime! wrote:
It's not just that Scar.

MTF's reasoning here:

It was his subtlety: he would like to be Pardoner like randombum was before him.

The zombie bandwagon of copying and pasting.

*The Town doesn't have much to go on but the 'Plexa list' would be a good start.

Plexa is much too smart to mass PM his entire familia to vote for him. In fact, it would be the opposite. Plexa doesn't normally like the limelight.

Furthermore, he would come up with an extensive platform on his own.

Not only that, but he probably ask a few of his familia to encourage people to support him.


It's possible that plexa is mafia and dosen't have time to work out his own campaign.

Although lazy plexa seems unlikely
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 18 2008 06:43 GMT
#757
ok i'm actually going to sleep now

please dont go crazy if shit goes down

order is the stability of the town and our evil is chaos.
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Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-18 06:48:34
November 18 2008 06:47 GMT
#758
I'm off to bed too. Good night all and whatever happens don't let Plexa in office.

Caller. Ver and MTF are going to be instrumental to the Town's success.

God I cannot type tonight TT

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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 18 2008 06:48 GMT
#759
On November 18 2008 15:09 Showtime! wrote:
Silly misunderstanding.

either way Scar is showing his cards too early.


Haha, there have been lots of silly misunderstandings already. That's part of what makes the game fun! I don't think Scar was showing any cards at all. He thought he had me so he claimed a role with the power to kill me. He just got a little excited about it, heh. No other scenario makes any sense.
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 18 2008 06:52 GMT
#760
Oh I get it now.
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