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On November 03 2008 00:07 fusionsdf wrote:
here is the list of people who have not yet posted since the game started:
1. imDerek
3. Jimtudor
4. decafchicken
5. Camlito
8. mikeymoo
9. MTF
10. clazziquai
13. Chezinu
14. nemY
15. xDark.Carnivalx
16. Empyrean
18. RtS)Night[Mare
20. JeeJee
21. SoleSteeler
23. ~OpZ~
25. Mynock
26. iNfuNdiBuLuM
27. Ace
28. MidnightGladius
29. Bockit
30. Folca
32. goldenkrnboi
33. Yogurt
35. ShadowDrgn
36. ulszz
37. KH1031
38. Amber[LighT]
39. Fishball
41. Artanis[Xp]
42. ZBiR
44. KF91
45. FakeSteve[TPR]
47. HeRoS)Pink
48. Mandalor
50. G.s)NarutO
there are some people I left on who have posted, but their posts were joke posts or didnt contibute anything
If your name is on this list, post!
Yo. There are ALOT of pages for me to catch up on. As of right now I feel abstaining is the best idea, since evidence so thin, and I'd rather not risk lynching a green/blue. Just don't lynch me ok? 
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how about mad hatters laying bombs on suspects, ex. decaf atm. Even if decaf is dead, the bomb wont be lost and this might be a good way to just keep suspects at bay.
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"Embrace the release that death brings you"
so blatant it may be a red herring, but it seems that the hang man would be in league w/ the sheriff and possibly w/ the governor. i've looked through everyones quotes and profiles, and i haven't found any direct relationship to anyone. i suggest other people to take a look to see if they can find something where i didn't.
We can trust no mayor, no governor, no authority this day or the next. We must unite to take care of the problem ourselves. Mafia if you hear me then tremble because we are united in our cause and will strike with cruel precision to drive you from our town."
More dialogue. Hard to find clues until people actually start dying and leaving clues behind. here is a quote from MidnightGladius'.
"It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change." - Volrath Ishnikar, the Faithless General
both quotes are said by a leader of some sort. and are on the topic of change. also i think the words "cruel precision" may have some significance. but to what, idk.
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Just posting to let you know I'm playing. I got lotsa shit to read.
EDIT: Okay, just read over most stuff. I say we go with fusion's idea for the short term, then transfer to Ace's method.
HOWEVER.
The one problem I have with Ace's strategy is that, as far as I understand it, mafia will have very obvious targets, no? This strategy will only work for a bit before they focus fire. Once there is focus fire (and possibly wasted hits), the town has nowhere to turn. So after all this the town has to move to good, solid clue analysis. The town is screwed without it's analyzers, so the medics need to make judgment calls based on who to protect and who not to.
Sorry, I just hit "All" and glazed through all of the posts. Correct me if I am misunderstanding something.
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The only thing thats popping up my head in this clues right now is the coffee and decaf
I think Chuiu is trying to make us imply that it was decaf
Just like the Romantic clue from the last mafia game..
:edit: Definently still reading a lot of the things that are already said since day 1, real nice
Really leaning towards what Ace is saying, although I dont understand half of what he did say...
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I'm active here. I just tried catching up.
So wait, are we trying to get rid of the detectives? Someone please explain for me...
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Yea, I think Ace's plan is a good plan, anyone false claiming would have a target on their head.
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ulszz, if I had a dime for every time people have pointed out Ishnikar's quote, I'd have... maybe 8 dimes. Damn inflation.
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You guys have already done a ton of work on this, I'm impressed.
I like the idea of lynching an inactive, although we'll probably just kill a green towny that saw his role and immediately stopped caring. At least the blues will probably be active, although that didn't hold true at the beginning of last game...
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To get started, I think we should have two groups of votes, one for aznvaliance, and one for decaf, since at the moment, they're our best leads.
Whoever is the prime suspect will have votes 1-30, and whoever is the secondary suspect will have votes 31-50.
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We should lynch Empyrean, he knows too much. Hes even advocating lynching other members.
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On November 03 2008 05:55 Empyrean wrote:
To get started, I think we should have two groups of votes, one for aznvaliance, and one for decaf, since at the moment, they're our best leads.
Whoever is the prime suspect will have votes 1-30, and whoever is the secondary suspect will have votes 31-50.
what if not everyone votes? or is that no big deal
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On November 03 2008 06:00 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2008 05:55 Empyrean wrote:
To get started, I think we should have two groups of votes, one for aznvaliance, and one for decaf, since at the moment, they're our best leads.
Whoever is the prime suspect will have votes 1-30, and whoever is the secondary suspect will have votes 31-50. what if not everyone votes? or is that no big deal We lynch everyone who doesn't vote 
(ok...not really, but if they don't vote they should be lynched >=( )
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On November 03 2008 01:06 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2008 01:02 fanatacist wrote:On November 03 2008 00:55 Falcynn wrote:On November 03 2008 00:49 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:I just want to point out guys that clue analysis at this point seems very tenuous. Granted, I havent been able to find anything not aready mentioned, but the general anarchy, vengeance (vengeance was the theme, "pay the price"), and "embrace the moment" themes i think will be important later on. If you remember last game Chuius clues were always very vague in the beginning, and began to get stronger over time (which i suppose balances out mafia killing town members, or something.. but it makes sense ) also, ace, i like that plan to an extent but any mafia false claiming DT can really mess that up, as the town has no 100% way to verify what a DT says is true - although say we have 2 dts speak up and say one thing, and one dt says another, perhaps then that leads us to the mafia? though we also use many rolechecks this way... We'd do the same thing we did for the mayor plan last game. If a detective speaks up we lynch him. If he's red he's dead (I love rhymes  ) and if he's blue then we kill the person he spoke up about. It may be unlikely that a DT would sacrifice himself...but it's all we got. This. Wouldn't it be safer to lynch the person he spoke up about, and if he DOESN'T come up red then lynch the DT? By lynching the DT you have a 1:1 ratio of blue : red losses at best. With the idea I just posted, a DT who has verified himself by giving a red name could keep producing results, thus being far more useful to the town than was if he was dead. It would also take away the whole sacrifice element that would prevent DTs from speaking up; I think they would become relative loners and would try to make posts that are convincing but not too convincing, acting as one of the analysts, in order to hide their role, and their factual knowledge of who is mafia and who isn't could be lost. to clarify my previous post: We can't do this. If the mafia know we would lynch the person the DT accuses first, they'll obviously false claim and get the innocent Vet/Jack lynched amd sac themselves for the profit. If mafia know the DT is going to be lynched anyway, they will hesitate to false claim because the guy would flip red, and the accused is most likely legit so he died for nothing. We have to make sure everyone knows the DT WILL be lynched proactively.
Couldn't this be averted by having another DT role check that DT?
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Well you could have two mafia members, both roleclaiming detectives.
The problem with the game this time is that DTs are scared to share their findings this time.
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Yeah without a mayor it makes it reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally hard to verify the credibility of anyone (that is blue). Also makes it reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally hard for anyone that is blue to come out and say anything 
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Chuiu can mafia hit other mafia?
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Too refrain from editing my posts, since no ones thought to ask chuiu, seeing as he answers us, and doesn't lie....
Seriously...No one's thought of this?
I suspect common sense to rein for all but mafia....
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My vote is for DecafChicken
No offense, but coffee and a meal....Thats his name, Coffee and a Meal....
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