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Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
March 20 2008 23:44 GMT
#1661
your welcome

feel free to add to the pile of barf

anyway we have some direction now thank you for being so active y'all
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
French_Toast
Profile Joined February 2008
United States99 Posts
March 20 2008 23:47 GMT
#1662
On March 21 2008 08:35 Naib wrote:
French_Toast you misunderstood me again, I meant "general" as in: people who don't read / don't get it / don't PM.

I didn't mean general as "French_Toast's posts in general". You take everything personal

edit: the followup part of my post that you quoted can be misunderstood, too, and I think you took it on yourself: it's directed at Shallow[bay] to try to get him get his act together.

Well that's too much posting from me again: I'm off to sleep.


Ha ha, alright I was wondering you picked shallow bay to talk about his mom, I thought it was funny because of that.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
March 20 2008 23:50 GMT
#1663
Naib, we better not find you sleeping in the same bed as Shallow's mom come morning that would really, really suck
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
BlindAlbino
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Ecuador176 Posts
March 21 2008 00:28 GMT
#1664
i think its no problem if the lucker is under the land
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17009 Posts
March 21 2008 00:34 GMT
#1665
On March 21 2008 03:57 Showtime! wrote:
Empyrean was just aiming for power. Nothing wrong with that when you're stuck in a townie role.


Thanks for noticing :/

On March 21 2008 06:18 French_Toast wrote:
Wow, Ace's plan is so stupid and cheap. I liked the bodyguard plan but this is a sign of desperation. Yeah, guys let's make this game even more cheap! Lets have everyone pm their roles so we know who's lying! Seriously, if you want to keep this game fun, avoid cheap exploits like that.


Honestly, no townie would care if a plan was "cheap". It's like you being MM rushed in a PvT, having Reaver tech, but deciding against it because Reavers are "cheap".

Additionally, the Mr. Pink clue and the fact that heros)pink doesn't like the plan because it's too "cheap" as well gives some suspicion to him.

Do you really think i would be that stupid to go against the town if I was a mafia with a mafioso in the clues called Mr.Pink?


Yes. That's actually not too far from what we did last game. It's too obvious the clue points at him. Why would he incite more town anger? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!

I think the best course of action for next night is to have a detective PM Chuiu, asking if the Mr. Pink clue points at Heros)Pink. Hopefully, since no DTs have spoken up against Ace, we know that Ace is mayor. All of them should have PM'd Ace by now, so Ace knows all the DTs. He should assign each detective a certain "investigation" to ask Chuiu.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 21 2008 00:46 GMT
#1666
I've read everything up till now, I'll be back later to post conclusions. Right now I'm not saying anything so Mafia have no idea whats in the plan.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
BlindAlbino
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Ecuador176 Posts
March 21 2008 00:51 GMT
#1667
i still really dont have any suspicions of anyone, just seems like a couple people got riled up.
keep our eyes on the prize guys.
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
March 21 2008 00:51 GMT
#1668
On March 21 2008 09:34 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2008 03:57 Showtime! wrote:
Empyrean was just aiming for power. Nothing wrong with that when you're stuck in a townie role.


Thanks for noticing :/

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2008 06:18 French_Toast wrote:
Wow, Ace's plan is so stupid and cheap. I liked the bodyguard plan but this is a sign of desperation. Yeah, guys let's make this game even more cheap! Lets have everyone pm their roles so we know who's lying! Seriously, if you want to keep this game fun, avoid cheap exploits like that.


Honestly, no townie would care if a plan was "cheap". It's like you being MM rushed in a PvT, having Reaver tech, but deciding against it because Reavers are "cheap".

Additionally, the Mr. Pink clue and the fact that heros)pink doesn't like the plan because it's too "cheap" as well gives some suspicion to him.

Show nested quote +
Do you really think i would be that stupid to go against the town if I was a mafia with a mafioso in the clues called Mr.Pink?


Yes. That's actually not too far from what we did last game. It's too obvious the clue points at him. Why would he incite more town anger? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!

I think the best course of action for next night is to have a detective PM Chuiu, asking if the Mr. Pink clue points at Heros)Pink. Hopefully, since no DTs have spoken up against Ace, we know that Ace is mayor. All of them should have PM'd Ace by now, so Ace knows all the DTs. He should assign each detective a certain "investigation" to ask Chuiu.

If that is good for the town do it... waste of a DT if u want my opinion. It would be better to have a DT on CTStalker's case
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17009 Posts
March 21 2008 00:56 GMT
#1669
One DT will probably be assigned to CTStalker as well. Besides, if you want to prove your innocence to the town, you should have no reservations against using a DT to clear your name.
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HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
March 21 2008 00:57 GMT
#1670
On March 21 2008 09:56 Empyrean wrote:
One DT will probably be assigned to CTStalker as well. Besides, if you want to prove your innocence to the town, you should have no reservations against using a DT to clear your name.

I have no problems with that just saying its a waste. Theres no way Mr.brown, Eddie,Mr blue , Mr. Pink etc.. Would be clues thats just non-sense
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 21 2008 00:58 GMT
#1671
On March 21 2008 09:51 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2008 09:34 Empyrean wrote:
On March 21 2008 03:57 Showtime! wrote:
Empyrean was just aiming for power. Nothing wrong with that when you're stuck in a townie role.


Thanks for noticing :/

On March 21 2008 06:18 French_Toast wrote:
Wow, Ace's plan is so stupid and cheap. I liked the bodyguard plan but this is a sign of desperation. Yeah, guys let's make this game even more cheap! Lets have everyone pm their roles so we know who's lying! Seriously, if you want to keep this game fun, avoid cheap exploits like that.


Honestly, no townie would care if a plan was "cheap". It's like you being MM rushed in a PvT, having Reaver tech, but deciding against it because Reavers are "cheap".

Additionally, the Mr. Pink clue and the fact that heros)pink doesn't like the plan because it's too "cheap" as well gives some suspicion to him.

Do you really think i would be that stupid to go against the town if I was a mafia with a mafioso in the clues called Mr.Pink?


Yes. That's actually not too far from what we did last game. It's too obvious the clue points at him. Why would he incite more town anger? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!

I think the best course of action for next night is to have a detective PM Chuiu, asking if the Mr. Pink clue points at Heros)Pink. Hopefully, since no DTs have spoken up against Ace, we know that Ace is mayor. All of them should have PM'd Ace by now, so Ace knows all the DTs. He should assign each detective a certain "investigation" to ask Chuiu.

If that is good for the town do it... waste of a DT if u want my opinion. It would be better to have a DT on CTStalker's case


I doubt you would need to waste a DT (kinda funny abbreviations), we could lynch him and not really care if he's a townie cause he isn't doing anything. Unless Ace can tell us otherwise...
Together but separate, like oatmeal
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
March 21 2008 01:09 GMT
#1672
On March 21 2008 09:58 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2008 09:51 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On March 21 2008 09:34 Empyrean wrote:
On March 21 2008 03:57 Showtime! wrote:
Empyrean was just aiming for power. Nothing wrong with that when you're stuck in a townie role.


Thanks for noticing :/

On March 21 2008 06:18 French_Toast wrote:
Wow, Ace's plan is so stupid and cheap. I liked the bodyguard plan but this is a sign of desperation. Yeah, guys let's make this game even more cheap! Lets have everyone pm their roles so we know who's lying! Seriously, if you want to keep this game fun, avoid cheap exploits like that.


Honestly, no townie would care if a plan was "cheap". It's like you being MM rushed in a PvT, having Reaver tech, but deciding against it because Reavers are "cheap".

Additionally, the Mr. Pink clue and the fact that heros)pink doesn't like the plan because it's too "cheap" as well gives some suspicion to him.

Do you really think i would be that stupid to go against the town if I was a mafia with a mafioso in the clues called Mr.Pink?


Yes. That's actually not too far from what we did last game. It's too obvious the clue points at him. Why would he incite more town anger? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!

I think the best course of action for next night is to have a detective PM Chuiu, asking if the Mr. Pink clue points at Heros)Pink. Hopefully, since no DTs have spoken up against Ace, we know that Ace is mayor. All of them should have PM'd Ace by now, so Ace knows all the DTs. He should assign each detective a certain "investigation" to ask Chuiu.

If that is good for the town do it... waste of a DT if u want my opinion. It would be better to have a DT on CTStalker's case


I doubt you would need to waste a DT (kinda funny abbreviations), we could lynch him and not really care if he's a townie cause he isn't doing anything. Unless Ace can tell us otherwise...


Stop making bad suggestions. Lynching a townie is bad because it both wastes a lynch that we could otherwise use to kill a mafia and it means one less townie the mafia has to worry about.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 21 2008 01:40 GMT
#1673
On March 21 2008 05:25 OneBlueAugust wrote:
This may have been clarified earlier, but activity is judged not just by forum posts, right? I've been relatively active in PMs, as I feel that's the only wise way to express my thoughts at the moment, but I haven't posted here yet at all.

Active in PM's huh? Who can verify your activity?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-21 01:49:59
March 21 2008 01:45 GMT
#1674
On March 21 2008 05:43 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2008 05:39 clazziquai wrote:
Meh, I never thought of that possibility, but I'll believe Ace for now..plus he was roleblocked, I think. So doesn't that make him not-mafia? Even though he was the mafia, why would his own fellow roleblock him?


All elements aside, just this specific case as an example.

If I were Mayor and Mafia, I could fake a claim that I got roleblocked so I don't use my double lynches.

But I don't believe you can hide your voting power. You can't spread your votes out so your vote would always be higher than other townies IF he wasn't roleblocked, meaning he would actually be roleblocked WITHOUT a DT confirming this would show he was targeted by a mafia member. So we wouldn't need a DT to confirm mafia targeted him, which would imply his innocence also.

I believe Ace now. 100%. In day, when he votes we will see him only having 1 vote and that should show us his true face regardless of a DT stepping forward. Thank you Saboteur.

Edit: (Clarity)

Just to clarify, and make what I said more easily understood.

He was roleblocked so he loses his extra votes which are used whether he wants to or not, I think that much is true atleast (that this is used regardless of him wanting to), and his double lynch, which he chooses to use, as opposed to being forced to.

So seeing as he doesn't get 6 votes on whoever he votes for, that will be proof he was roleblocked.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 21 2008 01:47 GMT
#1675
On March 21 2008 10:09 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2008 09:58 bumatlarge wrote:
On March 21 2008 09:51 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On March 21 2008 09:34 Empyrean wrote:
On March 21 2008 03:57 Showtime! wrote:
Empyrean was just aiming for power. Nothing wrong with that when you're stuck in a townie role.


Thanks for noticing :/

On March 21 2008 06:18 French_Toast wrote:
Wow, Ace's plan is so stupid and cheap. I liked the bodyguard plan but this is a sign of desperation. Yeah, guys let's make this game even more cheap! Lets have everyone pm their roles so we know who's lying! Seriously, if you want to keep this game fun, avoid cheap exploits like that.


Honestly, no townie would care if a plan was "cheap". It's like you being MM rushed in a PvT, having Reaver tech, but deciding against it because Reavers are "cheap".

Additionally, the Mr. Pink clue and the fact that heros)pink doesn't like the plan because it's too "cheap" as well gives some suspicion to him.

Do you really think i would be that stupid to go against the town if I was a mafia with a mafioso in the clues called Mr.Pink?


Yes. That's actually not too far from what we did last game. It's too obvious the clue points at him. Why would he incite more town anger? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!

I think the best course of action for next night is to have a detective PM Chuiu, asking if the Mr. Pink clue points at Heros)Pink. Hopefully, since no DTs have spoken up against Ace, we know that Ace is mayor. All of them should have PM'd Ace by now, so Ace knows all the DTs. He should assign each detective a certain "investigation" to ask Chuiu.

If that is good for the town do it... waste of a DT if u want my opinion. It would be better to have a DT on CTStalker's case


I doubt you would need to waste a DT (kinda funny abbreviations), we could lynch him and not really care if he's a townie cause he isn't doing anything. Unless Ace can tell us otherwise...


Stop making bad suggestions. Lynching a townie is bad because it both wastes a lynch that we could otherwise use to kill a mafia and it means one less townie the mafia has to worry about.


We have clues pointing to him, he is relatively inactive, but votes. It's better than lynching inactives who might have roles but have no leads on (inc) Who would you suggest? If I get killed, then he's probably trying to defend himself people correctly interpreting clues. If I survive then he might not be. Same goes for herospink as for me.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
March 21 2008 01:51 GMT
#1676
On March 21 2008 10:45 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2008 05:43 Fishball wrote:
On March 21 2008 05:39 clazziquai wrote:
Meh, I never thought of that possibility, but I'll believe Ace for now..plus he was roleblocked, I think. So doesn't that make him not-mafia? Even though he was the mafia, why would his own fellow roleblock him?


All elements aside, just this specific case as an example.

If I were Mayor and Mafia, I could fake a claim that I got roleblocked so I don't use my double lynches.

But I don't believe you can hide your voting power. You can't spread your votes out so your vote would always be higher than other townies IF he wasn't roleblocked, meaning he would actually be roleblocked WITHOUT a DT confirming this would show he was targeted by a mafia member. So we wouldn't need a DT to confirm mafia targeted him, which would imply his innocence also.

I believe Ace now. 100%. In day, when he votes we will see him only having 1 vote and that should show us his true face regardless of a DT stepping forward. Thank you Saboteur.


Unless he's lying about being roleblocked?

Not that I think that's the case, I'm just pointing out that the logic you applied there isn't perfect. We already have our methods to confirm he's a townie (bodyguards, dts), I'm giving detectives until day then I'll be pretty confident he's a townie and I'll be pming my role.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
March 21 2008 02:09 GMT
#1677
It really does come down to when day time hits. Soon as the mafia have had their fun, more then enough time has passed for the dt's to do their job. Passed that its just narrowing down the search and lynching properly.

Ace's plan is a good one in theory, but everyone is needed to complete it.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-21 02:17:14
March 21 2008 02:13 GMT
#1678
On March 21 2008 10:51 Bockit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2008 10:45 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On March 21 2008 05:43 Fishball wrote:
On March 21 2008 05:39 clazziquai wrote:
Meh, I never thought of that possibility, but I'll believe Ace for now..plus he was roleblocked, I think. So doesn't that make him not-mafia? Even though he was the mafia, why would his own fellow roleblock him?


All elements aside, just this specific case as an example.

If I were Mayor and Mafia, I could fake a claim that I got roleblocked so I don't use my double lynches.

But I don't believe you can hide your voting power. You can't spread your votes out so your vote would always be higher than other townies IF he wasn't roleblocked, meaning he would actually be roleblocked WITHOUT a DT confirming this would show he was targeted by a mafia member. So we wouldn't need a DT to confirm mafia targeted him, which would imply his innocence also.

I believe Ace now. 100%. In day, when he votes we will see him only having 1 vote and that should show us his true face regardless of a DT stepping forward. Thank you Saboteur.


Unless he's lying about being roleblocked?

Not that I think that's the case, I'm just pointing out that the logic you applied there isn't perfect. We already have our methods to confirm he's a townie (bodyguards, dts), I'm giving detectives until day then I'll be pretty confident he's a townie and I'll be pming my role.


why would a townie mayor lie about being roleblocked?
edit: the only thing that has me thinking is this
Meaning he tells me this before day starts and I disable that player from using their special role the following day and night.


either chuiu isn't that strict about making sure the sab tells him before day starts, or the first day is an exception
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-21 02:18:53
March 21 2008 02:18 GMT
#1679
If Ace isn't roleblocked, it'll show up when he votes tomorrow (6 votes vs 1). It'd be a bad idea to lie about that.
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~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 21 2008 02:19 GMT
#1680
On March 21 2008 10:51 Bockit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2008 10:45 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On March 21 2008 05:43 Fishball wrote:
On March 21 2008 05:39 clazziquai wrote:
Meh, I never thought of that possibility, but I'll believe Ace for now..plus he was roleblocked, I think. So doesn't that make him not-mafia? Even though he was the mafia, why would his own fellow roleblock him?


All elements aside, just this specific case as an example.

If I were Mayor and Mafia, I could fake a claim that I got roleblocked so I don't use my double lynches.

But I don't believe you can hide your voting power. You can't spread your votes out so your vote would always be higher than other townies IF he wasn't roleblocked, meaning he would actually be roleblocked WITHOUT a DT confirming this would show he was targeted by a mafia member. So we wouldn't need a DT to confirm mafia targeted him, which would imply his innocence also.

I believe Ace now. 100%. In day, when he votes we will see him only having 1 vote and that should show us his true face regardless of a DT stepping forward. Thank you Saboteur.


Unless he's lying about being roleblocked?

Not that I think that's the case, I'm just pointing out that the logic you applied there isn't perfect. We already have our methods to confirm he's a townie (bodyguards, dts), I'm giving detectives until day then I'll be pretty confident he's a townie and I'll be pming my role.


Edited the post to clarify what I meant...Basically...Day 2 he's roleblocked, so we will know if he is because we will see how many votes he gets when he votes.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
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