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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 19 2008 01:42 GMT
#881
Lol, don't worry. I kind of thought of that after posting it, but then goldenkrnboi told me I was clever and so I wanted to bask in the glory until someone decided to ruin it >.>

butidigress
Profile Joined March 2008
United States36 Posts
March 19 2008 02:15 GMT
#882
I just realized that the mafia had the saboteur position, which can easily prevent Empyrean from being effective while under protection. I don't know what to make of it.
between the click of the light and the start of the dream ...
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 19 2008 02:18 GMT
#883
Oh damn, that's true. Even though all the detectives will probably be able to confide in Empyrean if he's found to be a towny, his own powers will probably be rendered useless since the mafia will try to keep the saboteur on him for at least the first few days/nights.
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 19 2008 02:21 GMT
#884
I don't know why we are even considering that Empyrean is a detective. Its all trust, which we can have none of at this point.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
BlindAlbino
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Ecuador176 Posts
March 19 2008 02:26 GMT
#885
Well hopefully we can get a good mayor/pardoner this time around. Tracil was completely useless last game, and the whole lynching FS thing was a joke. If we are gonna elect someone, has to be someone that people actually like so we dont get another bandwagon lynch.

I vote Ace for Mayor.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17070 Posts
March 19 2008 02:35 GMT
#886
On March 19 2008 11:26 BlindAlbino wrote:
Well hopefully we can get a good mayor/pardoner this time around. Tracil was completely useless last game, and the whole lynching FS thing was a joke. If we are gonna elect someone, has to be someone that people actually like so we dont get another bandwagon lynch.

I vote Ace for Mayor.


Because this is the right thread in which to vote!
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Queasy
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States48 Posts
March 19 2008 02:39 GMT
#887
Just jealous he isn't voting for you.
unsoundlogic
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States391 Posts
March 19 2008 02:40 GMT
#888
How do we really know that empyrean is a detective if he is voted mayor? If he is mafia, he can easily dodge background checks by detectives. I'm assuming that you can't just ask (as a detective) if the elected mayor is mafia, because then wtf did the townies do last time... If empyrean is mafia and he is elected, he can fake "detective findings" because he knows the exact number of mafia that did X, seeing as he is mafia. This would through detectives off, and the only way to make sure that empyrean would be helping us is to use 1 detective solely to double-check empyrean everytime he makes a "detective findings" post. This ultimately results in a tied up detective (though it would still be nice to have public findings), or a mafia that can double lynch. Not good.

Also, I'm against lynching on the first day after mayoral elections. We just don't know enough stuff to lynch anyone, and it doesn't hurt us at this point because the killing power doesn't decrease.
BTW, ignore my handle -_-;;;;
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
March 19 2008 02:41 GMT
#889
This round dectective's have a new skill which does exactly that. (ask chuiu for his position)
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2008 02:43 GMT
#890
On March 19 2008 11:26 BlindAlbino wrote:
Well hopefully we can get a good mayor/pardoner this time around. Tracil was completely useless last game, and the whole lynching FS thing was a joke. If we are gonna elect someone, has to be someone that people actually like so we dont get another bandwagon lynch.

I vote Ace for Mayor.



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Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
BlindAlbino
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Ecuador176 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-19 02:44:45
March 19 2008 02:44 GMT
#891
just declaring that im voting for him... empyrean seems mafiaish he keeps jumping at people.

not yet ace...i want to see how the votes pan out
unsoundlogic
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States391 Posts
March 19 2008 02:53 GMT
#892
On March 19 2008 11:41 randombum wrote:
This round dectective's have a new skill which does exactly that. (ask chuiu for his position)

Oh....well I'm voting for him anyways because I figured the benefits were better than the costs. ^^;;;
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
March 19 2008 02:54 GMT
#893
I really do not want Empryean as mayor. Not only is he suspicious and arrogant (do we want another repeat of the fakesteve fiasco?), but this post should be paid attention to:

I just realized that the mafia had the saboteur position, which can easily prevent Empyrean from being effective while under protection. I don't know what to make of it.


Even if Empryean is a legit detective, this ruins that power.

Another thing I'd like to add is that if we get a detective killed to verify Empryean's legitimacy and in addition Empryean is targeted by the saboteur, we are left with a mere 2 detectives, best case scenario. The other scenario is that Empryean is mafia, which we will find out by sacrificing a detective, which means we will have three detectives left and no mayor. Both of these situations sound very bad for the townies to me.

Everybody who voted for Empryean, please consider what I just wrote.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
March 19 2008 02:56 GMT
#894
And by "Empryean is targeted by the saboteur" I mean his detective abilties are made useless every cycle
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2008 02:58 GMT
#895
Needless to say I'm very,very uncomfortable with Empyrean even being Pardoner nevertheless Mayor.

Seriously people that are voting for Empyrean what exactly are you basing this vote off of?

The fact that he played well last round even though he was Mafia?
The wrong thinking that since he was Mafia last round that he surely can't be Mafia this round?

Those 2 points are clearly not going to help choose a Good Mayor. But that isn't my problem with his candidacy - this is:

He role claimed Detective.

This one action brings out a major problem. At this point we can't verify that Empyrean is legit as a DT. We pretty much have to go on blind trust, and I'm begging those of you who have played this game before to recall what happens when we act on blind faith. Nothing good will come out of it. Why would someone claim a key role like that early, saying that they fear they would be killed at night? If he really was acting in the best interest of the town, he would realize that as a key target the Medics would protect him and how that simple action puts a spin on the Mafia killing power. But he went the selfish route.

Even more so, Empyrean never had a plan until myself and Ghar put plans up. He never even read the original plans and even got qsr's plan analyzed WRONG. How can this guy be a good candidate even though he didn't read many of the posts that are the main focus of discussion right now?

But besides all of that, the final nail in the coffin is the fact that everyone says Empyrean is a good player.

As any good mafia player will tell you, role claiming is a great strategy - only when done at the right time.

The very beginning of the game when nothing can be proved, Empyrean an acclaimed good player role claims. He even admits that it can't be proved but we should just trust him.

Think this out guys. A GOOD player that has not acted on logic, has not posted a plan till later in voting, and is running on a platform of "trust me based on my actions last game" which have no bearing on his status this game. HOW is this going to help us survive?
He has not done anything so far that shows me or many others he is capable of acting in the best interest of the town and has even admitted it. Empyrean is smart - and he certainly isn't running on a platform that shows that. It's a trust platform, and right now the best thing we can do is vote based on plans of action and leadership NOT trust - because that can't be proven until later.

Stop voting for him. I may have a slight lead right now, but by tomorrow who knows how the voting will stack up. I may even never get the Mayor position. I'm not comfortable with a guy who's acting selfishly and irrationally on Day 1 in any position of power. Even if he is Pardoner I'd be worried.

Once I again I'm begging you guys to reconsider.





Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-19 03:02:37
March 19 2008 03:01 GMT
#896
Unconfirmable rollcalling this early in the game is simply stupid. Stupid. Even if he's telling the truth, he's exposed himself to the mafia.

Either he's lying or he's being idiotic for personal gain. Neither of which are qualities we want in a mayor.

EDIT: Ace above me pretty much sums it up.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 19 2008 03:02 GMT
#897
Dude...People...Vote for Fusion dammit. He is full of win!

Fuck Emp, tho I doubt he is mafioso... (I actually like Emp, but I doubt his deductive powers, unlike Fusions which has been proven...)

=D
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
March 19 2008 03:07 GMT
#898
So when do the polls close? If it is 24 hours from the day 1 post then it will be 3-4 hours from now. Has Chuiu mentioned a time?
It's easier not to.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-19 03:12:07
March 19 2008 03:07 GMT
#899
people who vote for empyrean crack me up. if he's legit, the best he can do for us is verify the mayor then get shot by mafia, because there's no reason to vote for him at all, since saboteur will juts be laughin at us (realize that he had nobody to roleblock until empyrean went "im dt lulz!") if we elect him

now that his role is out of the question (WHY was it even in question? i don't understand, someone roleclaiming @ this point holds as much weight as something that doesn't have a lot of weight at all), what else has he provided? nothing aside from repeatedly self-contradicting posts.

as for the other candidates..meh. i was keeping an updated excel sheet of ALL the people, who they vote for, who supports them, who they support, who accuses them, who they accuse, because it gets oh-so-easy to keep track of people
(i was reading thread @ work and felt like doing that)

then i get home and flip vanilla, so i suddenly get far too lazy to do that =/ maybe someone else can take over, i'll send you what i have right now (it goes up to page 35ish i think?)
oh and it has the list of all the people, their sigs, and potential themes used for clues, ordered by likelihood, since I think that getting a list of clues that could apply to a certain person, then running through the day post to see if any in fact DO match, is a far better way than vice versa (running through the post to see the people they might match to)
someone with a lot of time (randombum?) wanna do this?

ill probably end up voting for ace or randombum, since at least they're attempting logical, objective stuff ,rather than pointless subjective stuff (im looking at you, empyrean and sonuv)
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 19 2008 03:10 GMT
#900
What role did emp claim again?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
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