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suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
April 15 2008 18:37 GMT
#4601
On April 16 2008 02:38 MidnightGladius wrote:
Everyone owes me a post-death apology. Yeah, I'm asking for it now


I don't owe you one if you die, I already said I think you'll come up green if you do die .
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
April 15 2008 19:01 GMT
#4602
On April 16 2008 03:32 Naib wrote:
Wow, I feel like a dumbass for missing that Black Mamba "felt his way up". The toll of being a non-native speaker of the language, eh. I totally imagined that situation differently as I read it through, but now MTF and Plexa convinced me about BlindAlbino being Mafia (I pray to God that this time we're correct though...we can't afford to waste many more lynches, especially since Ace is roleblocked again). We should also nail that Sabouteur. I suspect, unlike d.arkive (the other special Mafia role) he's a silent lurker, without posting in the thread, and (intentionally) missing (not sure here!) votes sometimes. Should look at those people more closely - but ofc nailing sure Mafia is more important than running after the trail of the Saboteur.

edit: Grammar (added "also" into the Saboteur sentence )

I think MTF is the saboteur but thats just a feeling
Addicted
suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
April 15 2008 19:40 GMT
#4603
Would be a good strat to make the town think you are useful and good at clue interpretations to throw them off any trail. I think the saboteur should be gaining the towns trust. Even if you lay low your going to be found out by clues and power of deduction. If you manage to gain the towns trust sometimes they will overlook clues pointing at you etc etc.

I'm not saying this is what MTF is doing, I'm just saying it is a possibility. But I must say some of the clues brought up are good, and if he is mafia then he is either hanging other mafia out to dry, which would be interesting, or throwing us off the scent.
suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
April 15 2008 19:43 GMT
#4604
Pshh I want some daylight to shed some light on how we are shaping up! As opposed to taking wild theories like mine above for entertainment purposes O_o
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 15 2008 20:08 GMT
#4605
ahhhhhh!

hockey games, and almost day in mafia

and no one is giving me games on iccup

Im about to go crazy
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-15 20:13:34
April 15 2008 20:12 GMT
#4606
On April 16 2008 04:40 suresh0t wrote:
Would be a good strat to make the town think you are useful and good at clue interpretations to throw them off any trail. I think the saboteur should be gaining the towns trust. Even if you lay low your going to be found out by clues and power of deduction. If you manage to gain the towns trust sometimes they will overlook clues pointing at you etc etc.

I'm not saying this is what MTF is doing, I'm just saying it is a possibility. But I must say some of the clues brought up are good, and if he is mafia then he is either hanging other mafia out to dry, which would be interesting, or throwing us off the scent.

I think MTF is the saboteur because its like 80% sure he's mafia and since plexa said its either midnightgladius or MTF mafia (100% sure) then he had to do something to pretect himself.
He brought exellent clues (ex:blindalbino) and im probably sure he did that to protect himself.
Because if midnightGladius turns out green then he's mafia but now he's usefull to the town so he might not be the first to be lynched and it would give the Mafia some precious time.

Why would they try to slow the game by sacrificing some useless mafia? Well first, we doesnt have DT anymore, our vigis kills are really bad, and Ace is roleblocked 1/2 circle, so we mostly have 1 killing power per day.

I think they will sacrifice mafia until all bgs die and they will be able to kill ace, so now MTF will be useless to them.
After that they will be in a really good position to win this game.

All that is possible only if midnightgladius is green
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MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
April 15 2008 21:57 GMT
#4607
I'm not done evaluating my suspects, but I feel I should go ahead and post what I do have because of what I found of str.

Those also on the Mandalor list marked by an asterisk.

LostYourSkills:
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +

Made only one post in the whole thread after Day 1 post, never voted other than Mayoral. Claims to have been on holiday.



str:

I'm about 90% sure that str is innocent, now. I would be much less so if BlindAlbino had only voted for str, but he voted and openly accused over and over again. I still believe 44 is the key to finding Cottonmouth, but I no longer believe it is str. This makes Fen my new strongest, though somewhat tenuous still, suspect for Cottonmouth.

+ Show Spoiler [Results] +

- PAIN IN THE ASS TO SEARCH FOR
- Ok, stopping now, because I've seen BlindAlbino, sure Mafia, try to get str lynched twice now.



Notes About Other People:

Mostly lists of people who accused those I am suspecting. I will omit those who are already confirmed innocent/dead.

Though I just wanna point out this post by Chezinu:

+ Show Spoiler [Chezinu Post] +

I say you make these people vote for the same person:
MidnightGladius
Ninja4ever
Energies
Caller
LoStYouRSkills
BlindAlbino
Meta

I'm curious how many are mafia


He was doing a good job, in my opinion. :p

People Who Accuse LostYourSkills:
+ Show Spoiler [List] +

SonuvBob
Plexa
Naib
Eti307
Lysinthea
RtS)Night(Mare
Shallow[Bay]
Infundibulum
Scorch
HeRoS)Pink
Camlito
Think. :)
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 15 2008 22:13 GMT
#4608
MTF, I'm not doubting you, but could you remind me when I accused Lostyourskills? I honestly can't remember :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
April 15 2008 22:21 GMT
#4609
On April 16 2008 07:13 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
MTF, I'm not doubting you, but could you remind me when I accused Lostyourskills? I honestly can't remember :p


Second post on page 31.

+ Show Spoiler [Post] +

On March 19 2008 04:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
POSSIBLE COLOUR CLUES OUTLINED


Blue
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Yogurt
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Hittegods
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=SonuvBob (his name is in Blue)
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=iNfuNdiBuLuM
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Bockit
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=OneBlueAugust
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Last Romantic (his name is in Blue)
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Plexa (his name is in Blue)

Red
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=nemY

Brown
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=RtS)Night[Mare
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=bumatlarge
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=AmorVincitOmnia (his -signature : brown skin woman you a queen)

Pink
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Unforgiven_ve
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=HeRoS)Pink (it's in his name! profile has an abundance of Blue though)
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=MoRe_mInErAls
Show nested quote +
PINK?! Marge, I can't wear a pink shirt to work. Everybody wears white shirts. I'm not popular enough to be different!


ADDITIONAL CLUES


There are so many fucking snake references...I'm looking at you, wurm.

Two of the three snakes mentioned are found in Australia, the other is found in Mexico and the US.

Who are some Aussie players?
-SoMuchBetter is from Australia
-He has "AUSSIESCUM" in his signature.
-Guy in his profile has a massive brown hat

-Fen
-Energies
-Camlito
-Lostyourskills
-Bockit
-Siefu
-Scorch
-Rowdierbob
(one of the mafia asks forgiveness from Chuiu "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand". In his signature, RB is forgiving Plexa for being a Kiwi)
-Ghar
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2008 16:46 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Well, I may have been posting too much ever since the day was posted but whatever....

1. Eight people in his way, chances weren't good.
Eight people. Eight cardinal directions. This, I think, equates to being surrounded from all sides. Now, I direct attention to this person's profile quote:
Quote : All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time.
Well, if they're on the left, right, front, and behind, sounds like a situation where you're surrounded as well. Coincidence? *shrugs*



-Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

Show nested quote +
67-0cz3c
Display Name : 0cz3c
Birthday : May 19, 1992
Country : United States
Joined : Friday, 22nd of February 2008
Quote : A boat is a boat. A mystery box can be anything -- it can even be a boat!


EDIT : 4:57 TL time ; added Australians to the list.
EDIT : 5:04 ;
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2008 16:42 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm voting for Sonuv, he's a townie for sure.

Two people who could be pointed to by colour clues, and wtf kind of logic is that?

Show nested quote +
Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable.


MidnightGladius's signature.
"It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change.- Volrath Ishnikar, the Faithless General"

MY THOUGHTS AS OF NOW
I suspect:

- RtS)Night[Mare - from Mexico, (sidewinder), guy with long, BROWN dreadlocks in his profile.
- Ghar - from Australia, above "surrounded" quote by Aznvaliance.
- So Much Better - from Australia,has "AUSSIESCUM" in his signature,guy in his profile
- I have a gut feeling about Plexa and fusionsdf.

EDIT Mar22/13:23 ADDED MoRe_mInErAls to Pink list.


Not the same reasoning, but I'm just noting anyone who, in the past, put some heat on the suspects I have down. If those suspects come up Mafia, you guys will have some compilation as to what people accused them before they were up on the chopping block, and that is strong evidence that the person is probably aligned with the town.
Think. :)
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 15 2008 22:27 GMT
#4610
hmm

I didnt know shallow was suspicious about both me and plexa
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-15 22:57:00
April 15 2008 22:53 GMT
#4611
fusion, you have to realize that I posted that in the beginning of the game, around when you were sending me those nonsensical PM's such as the ones I sent last game when I was Mafia.

There's a reason I haven't accused you since.

MTF, that wasn't so much of an accusation as pointing out that he's from Australia, but I get your drift (EDIT : To clarify, I'm saying this because, if he happens to flip town upon his possible death, I don't want to be seen as accusing him directly :p )
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
April 15 2008 22:57 GMT
#4612
lift me up lift me up higher now im up
Teamliquidian townie
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 15 2008 22:58 GMT
#4613
Also, fusion if age old accusations of you and Plexa arouse your interest:
On March 19 2008 05:34 JoxxOr wrote:
Show nested quote +
- I have a gut feeling about Plexa and fusionsdf.

My gut says the same thing to me .

Time will tell mafias


Bon appetit :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
April 16 2008 00:04 GMT
#4614
Day post started
♞
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 16 2008 00:10 GMT
#4615
interesting....
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 16 2008 00:12 GMT
#4616
carnival
gunshots
car alarm
fire alarm
beach music

wtf
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-16 00:28:49
April 16 2008 00:28 GMT
#4617
On April 16 2008 09:04 Chuiu wrote:
Day post started


SHIT

must hurry
Think. :)
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-16 00:33:40
April 16 2008 00:31 GMT
#4618
Ok, 'since time is short I'll post the other two suspects I have finished reviewing. I probably won't be able to get them all, but I'll try updating one by one before day comes.

Once again, people on the Mandalor list marked by an asterisk.

MidnightGladius*:
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +

- Claims to have been on vacation between the 11th-15th.
- Gives some decent analysis/summary of clues on this page.
- Defended d.arkive with a list (later proved fake)
- Presented the fake list again later to add innocents to another list.
- Addressed BlindAlbino directly, agreed with him tenuously on Energies and asked for further discussion on suresh0t.




People Who Accuse MidnightGladius*:
+ Show Spoiler [List] +

- Shallow[Bay]
- Eti307
- Lysithea
- BWdero
- Hollander
- Plexa
- Nemy



0cz3c*:
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +

- Defended Caller, known innocent, then turned against him (along with many other people, including a now dead medic)
- Defended Ace.
- Defended Ace against BlindAlbino.
- Suggested investigating both Bumatlarge and Randombum on what turned out to be Queasy's clues.
- Complied and voted on Ghar in day 3, had no second vote.
- Accused Ninja4Ever.
- Defended Shallow three times.

last few pages, relevant to note because of recent events

- Responded to my post about his quote by expanding the knowledge of it; has yet to respond about the new clue.
- Supports MidnightGladius being lynched and challenges suresh0t to give reasoning rather than just say things.
- Kinda defends me by questioning a possible clue against me.


Well, look at that. One of my top suspects has a more positive posting history than the majority of townies. This indicates one of two things to me: he's a good, helpful townie or he's a smart mafia. Given the clue we have seemingly connecting him strongly to Copperhead, I'm going to lean towards smart mafia. However, I will concede that I am quite a bit less certain than before.

People Who Accused 0cz3c*:
+ Show Spoiler [List] +

Shallow[Bay]
Think. :)
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
April 16 2008 00:38 GMT
#4619
Wait, aren't I supposed to be Snake Charmer?

:p
Trust in Bayes.
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
April 16 2008 00:39 GMT
#4620
On April 16 2008 09:38 MidnightGladius wrote:
Wait, aren't I supposed to be Snake Charmer?

:p


Yes?
Think. :)
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