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On April 16 2008 02:38 MidnightGladius wrote:Everyone owes me a post-death apology. Yeah, I'm asking for it now
I don't owe you one if you die, I already said I think you'll come up green if you do die .
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On April 16 2008 03:32 Naib wrote:Wow, I feel like a dumbass for missing that Black Mamba "felt his way up". The toll of being a non-native speaker of the language, eh. I totally imagined that situation differently as I read it through, but now MTF and Plexa convinced me about BlindAlbino being Mafia (I pray to God that this time we're correct though...we can't afford to waste many more lynches, especially since Ace is roleblocked again). We should also nail that Sabouteur. I suspect, unlike d.arkive (the other special Mafia role) he's a silent lurker, without posting in the thread, and (intentionally) missing (not sure here!) votes sometimes. Should look at those people more closely - but ofc nailing sure Mafia is more important than running after the trail of the Saboteur. edit: Grammar (added "also" into the Saboteur sentence ) I think MTF is the saboteur but thats just a feeling
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Would be a good strat to make the town think you are useful and good at clue interpretations to throw them off any trail. I think the saboteur should be gaining the towns trust. Even if you lay low your going to be found out by clues and power of deduction. If you manage to gain the towns trust sometimes they will overlook clues pointing at you etc etc.
I'm not saying this is what MTF is doing, I'm just saying it is a possibility. But I must say some of the clues brought up are good, and if he is mafia then he is either hanging other mafia out to dry, which would be interesting, or throwing us off the scent.
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Pshh I want some daylight to shed some light on how we are shaping up! As opposed to taking wild theories like mine above for entertainment purposes O_o
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ahhhhhh!
hockey games, and almost day in mafia
and no one is giving me games on iccup
Im about to go crazy
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On April 16 2008 04:40 suresh0t wrote: Would be a good strat to make the town think you are useful and good at clue interpretations to throw them off any trail. I think the saboteur should be gaining the towns trust. Even if you lay low your going to be found out by clues and power of deduction. If you manage to gain the towns trust sometimes they will overlook clues pointing at you etc etc.
I'm not saying this is what MTF is doing, I'm just saying it is a possibility. But I must say some of the clues brought up are good, and if he is mafia then he is either hanging other mafia out to dry, which would be interesting, or throwing us off the scent. I think MTF is the saboteur because its like 80% sure he's mafia and since plexa said its either midnightgladius or MTF mafia (100% sure) then he had to do something to pretect himself. He brought exellent clues (ex:blindalbino) and im probably sure he did that to protect himself. Because if midnightGladius turns out green then he's mafia but now he's usefull to the town so he might not be the first to be lynched and it would give the Mafia some precious time.
Why would they try to slow the game by sacrificing some useless mafia? Well first, we doesnt have DT anymore, our vigis kills are really bad, and Ace is roleblocked 1/2 circle, so we mostly have 1 killing power per day.
I think they will sacrifice mafia until all bgs die and they will be able to kill ace, so now MTF will be useless to them. After that they will be in a really good position to win this game.
All that is possible only if midnightgladius is green
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I'm not done evaluating my suspects, but I feel I should go ahead and post what I do have because of what I found of str.
Those also on the Mandalor list marked by an asterisk.
LostYourSkills: + Show Spoiler [Results] + Made only one post in the whole thread after Day 1 post, never voted other than Mayoral. Claims to have been on holiday.
str:
I'm about 90% sure that str is innocent, now. I would be much less so if BlindAlbino had only voted for str, but he voted and openly accused over and over again. I still believe 44 is the key to finding Cottonmouth, but I no longer believe it is str. This makes Fen my new strongest, though somewhat tenuous still, suspect for Cottonmouth.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] + - PAIN IN THE ASS TO SEARCH FOR - Ok, stopping now, because I've seen BlindAlbino, sure Mafia, try to get str lynched twice now.
Notes About Other People:
Mostly lists of people who accused those I am suspecting. I will omit those who are already confirmed innocent/dead.
Though I just wanna point out this post by Chezinu:
+ Show Spoiler [Chezinu Post] +I say you make these people vote for the same person: MidnightGladius Ninja4ever Energies Caller LoStYouRSkills BlindAlbino Meta
I'm curious how many are mafia
He was doing a good job, in my opinion. :p
People Who Accuse LostYourSkills: + Show Spoiler [List] + SonuvBob Plexa Naib Eti307 Lysinthea RtS)Night(Mare Shallow[Bay] Infundibulum Scorch HeRoS)Pink Camlito
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MTF, I'm not doubting you, but could you remind me when I accused Lostyourskills? I honestly can't remember :p
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On April 16 2008 07:13 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: MTF, I'm not doubting you, but could you remind me when I accused Lostyourskills? I honestly can't remember :p
Second post on page 31.
+ Show Spoiler [Post] +On March 19 2008 04:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:POSSIBLE COLOUR CLUES OUTLINED
Blue http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Yogurthttp://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Hittegodshttp://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=SonuvBob (his name is in Blue) http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=iNfuNdiBuLuMhttp://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Bockithttp://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=OneBlueAugusthttp://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Last Romantic (his name is in Blue) http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Plexa (his name is in Blue) Red http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=nemYBrown http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=RtS)Night[Mare http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=bumatlargehttp://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=AmorVincitOmnia (his -signature : brown skin woman you a queen) Pink http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Unforgiven_vehttp://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=HeRoS)Pink (it's in his name! profile has an abundance of Blue though) http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=MoRe_mInErAls Show nested quote +PINK?! Marge, I can't wear a pink shirt to work. Everybody wears white shirts. I'm not popular enough to be different!
ADDITIONAL CLUESThere are so many fucking snake references...I'm looking at you, wurm.Two of the three snakes mentioned are found in Australia, the other is found in Mexico and the US. Who are some Aussie players? -SoMuchBetter is from Australia -He has "AUSSIESCUM" in his signature. -Guy in his profile has a massive brown hat - Fen- Energies- Camlito- Lostyourskills- Bockit- Siefu- Scorch- Rowdierbob(one of the mafia asks forgiveness from Chuiu "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand". In his signature, RB is forgiving Plexa for being a Kiwi) - GharShow nested quote +On March 18 2008 16:46 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Well, I may have been posting too much ever since the day was posted but whatever....
1. Eight people in his way, chances weren't good. Eight people. Eight cardinal directions. This, I think, equates to being surrounded from all sides. Now, I direct attention to this person's profile quote: Quote : All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time. Well, if they're on the left, right, front, and behind, sounds like a situation where you're surrounded as well. Coincidence? *shrugs* - Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" Show nested quote +67-0cz3c Display Name : 0cz3c Birthday : May 19, 1992 Country : United States Joined : Friday, 22nd of February 2008 Quote : A boat is a boat. A mystery box can be anything -- it can even be a boat! EDIT : 4:57 TL time ; added Australians to the list. EDIT : 5:04 ; Show nested quote +On March 18 2008 16:42 bumatlarge wrote: I'm voting for Sonuv, he's a townie for sure. Two people who could be pointed to by colour clues, and wtf kind of logic is that? MidnightGladius's signature. "It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change.- Volrath Ishnikar, the Faithless General" MY THOUGHTS AS OF NOWI suspect: - RtS)Night[Mare - from Mexico, (sidewinder), guy with long, BROWN dreadlocks in his profile. - Ghar - from Australia, above "surrounded" quote by Aznvaliance. - So Much Better - from Australia,has "AUSSIESCUM" in his signature,guy in his profile - I have a gut feeling about Plexa and fusionsdf. EDIT Mar22/13:23 ADDED MoRe_mInErAls to Pink list.
Not the same reasoning, but I'm just noting anyone who, in the past, put some heat on the suspects I have down. If those suspects come up Mafia, you guys will have some compilation as to what people accused them before they were up on the chopping block, and that is strong evidence that the person is probably aligned with the town.
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hmm
I didnt know shallow was suspicious about both me and plexa
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fusion, you have to realize that I posted that in the beginning of the game, around when you were sending me those nonsensical PM's such as the ones I sent last game when I was Mafia.
There's a reason I haven't accused you since.
MTF, that wasn't so much of an accusation as pointing out that he's from Australia, but I get your drift (EDIT : To clarify, I'm saying this because, if he happens to flip town upon his possible death, I don't want to be seen as accusing him directly :p )
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lift me up lift me up higher now im up
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Also, fusion if age old accusations of you and Plexa arouse your interest:
On March 19 2008 05:34 JoxxOr wrote:My gut says the same thing to me . Time will tell mafias
Bon appetit :p
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carnival gunshots car alarm fire alarm beach music
wtf
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Ok, 'since time is short I'll post the other two suspects I have finished reviewing. I probably won't be able to get them all, but I'll try updating one by one before day comes.
Once again, people on the Mandalor list marked by an asterisk.
MidnightGladius*: + Show Spoiler [Results] + - Claims to have been on vacation between the 11th-15th. - Gives some decent analysis/summary of clues on this page. - Defended d.arkive with a list (later proved fake) - Presented the fake list again later to add innocents to another list. - Addressed BlindAlbino directly, agreed with him tenuously on Energies and asked for further discussion on suresh0t.
People Who Accuse MidnightGladius*: + Show Spoiler [List] + - Shallow[Bay] - Eti307 - Lysithea - BWdero - Hollander - Plexa - Nemy
0cz3c*: + Show Spoiler [Results] + - Defended Caller, known innocent, then turned against him (along with many other people, including a now dead medic) - Defended Ace. - Defended Ace against BlindAlbino. - Suggested investigating both Bumatlarge and Randombum on what turned out to be Queasy's clues. - Complied and voted on Ghar in day 3, had no second vote. - Accused Ninja4Ever. - Defended Shallow three times.
last few pages, relevant to note because of recent events
- Responded to my post about his quote by expanding the knowledge of it; has yet to respond about the new clue. - Supports MidnightGladius being lynched and challenges suresh0t to give reasoning rather than just say things. - Kinda defends me by questioning a possible clue against me.
Well, look at that. One of my top suspects has a more positive posting history than the majority of townies. This indicates one of two things to me: he's a good, helpful townie or he's a smart mafia. Given the clue we have seemingly connecting him strongly to Copperhead, I'm going to lean towards smart mafia. However, I will concede that I am quite a bit less certain than before.
People Who Accused 0cz3c*: + Show Spoiler [List] +
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Wait, aren't I supposed to be Snake Charmer?
:p
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On April 16 2008 09:38 MidnightGladius wrote: Wait, aren't I supposed to be Snake Charmer?
:p
Yes?
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