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BlindAlbino
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Ecuador176 Posts
April 11 2008 01:13 GMT
#4101
pink, those are called lurkers. ppl dont post, but if see name they respond. its common yes?
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
April 11 2008 01:20 GMT
#4102
On April 11 2008 10:13 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Suresh0t is my 3rd suspect, after Siefu and L, all those things were said previously but the town is inactive as hell theres like 2-3 poeple finding clues and then we have out of nowhere (who doesnt post a lot) making post to defend themselves which is weird.

Yeah, sorry, I thought the hammer was something new, but looking back, I see that Plexa had already alluded to it. Anyway, regardless of who found which clues, the stuff pointing to suresh0t is starting to add up, no? As opposed to the very strained interpretation of 12, since the numbers don't really add up to that.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
April 11 2008 01:22 GMT
#4103
I'm kinda resettling after changing where I live + I have finals. The only times I didn't post much where during that entire showtime + shallow spam the threads areas, for obvious reasons, as well as the 2 day stretch when I was without internet b/c I was moving.

Your inability to count properly and your continued accusations after your evidence has been proven false kinda make you suspicious too, but mafia's a game of suspicions, so i suppose that's normal. I really do need to get back to studying, so don't expect much from me until tomorrow.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 11 2008 01:23 GMT
#4104
On April 11 2008 10:06 Amber[LighT] wrote:
No one finds it ironic that the suicidebomber killed our last detective?!



almost like taunting us.

At this point I think we have to assume that the mafia has at least a partial list of rolled townies

Especially since they've been ignoring active townies for inactive ones, something that doesnt make sense as part of standard mafia strategy.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
April 11 2008 01:24 GMT
#4105
On April 11 2008 10:20 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2008 10:13 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Suresh0t is my 3rd suspect, after Siefu and L, all those things were said previously but the town is inactive as hell theres like 2-3 poeple finding clues and then we have out of nowhere (who doesnt post a lot) making post to defend themselves which is weird.

Yeah, sorry, I thought the hammer was something new, but looking back, I see that Plexa had already alluded to it. Anyway, regardless of who found which clues, the stuff pointing to suresh0t is starting to add up, no? As opposed to the very strained interpretation of 12, since the numbers don't really add up to that.

I have no problem with lynching Suresh0t instead of L for this day, but we can't let this clue go even if theres poeple who doesnt agree with it + he's on the list of potential mafia (10/37)
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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
April 11 2008 01:29 GMT
#4106
Since my last post got buried after a minute here's the summary version of the clues that connect the Wolf to suresh0t:
1) Doesn't miss. 2) Tells Chuiu something that is very similar to suresh0t's sig. 3) Nails. suresh0t is holding a hammer in his profile pic.
Also, 4) suresh0t is on the Mandalor list and 5) he's been posting very lightly and bandwagoning or abstaining in votes.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-11 01:41:17
April 11 2008 01:40 GMT
#4107
On April 08 2008 16:52 Camlito wrote:
I'd like to emphasize this once more:

We have the following certain information:
EITHER one out of
- imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie
is mafia, OR two out of
- Chezinu
- useLess
- aZnvaLiaNce
- fusionsdf
are mafia.
From among the second list, only one of useLess and aZnvaLiaNce can be mafia - not both -, and only one of Chezinu and fusionsdf can be mafia.

At worst, we have a 1/7 chance to get a mafia from among these, a stunning 2/4 at best, so i emphatically suggest we take this path in our investigations. Keep your eyes open for evidence against any of these guys!

My gut feeling says it's either useLess and fusionsdf or Evilmonkey, but it's just that: an unfounded gut feeling.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

We should really look at these lists more, as there is a much better chance.

As i said before, useLess has a high chance of being mafia, as one of the clues i remember referred to a mafia being tossed aside, which indicates he is rather "useless".


Ok 3rd time i will post this.

Unless im missing something or this is a joke, this should be looked at.

See where it sais "chezinu or fusionsdf" can be mafia? CHEZINU IS NOW DEAD!

I don't know if people missed this, or i am an idiot, or both - but this should be looked at.
sAviOr...
suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
April 11 2008 01:48 GMT
#4108
I don't come out of nowhere to defend myself. I've posted my thoughts and blogged about clues etc.

I followed Aces voting request then I ended up abstaining from the last vote because I thought Ace was going to notify me who to vote for to stick with the plan. I was offline a bit and came back and there were still no requests from Ace telling me who to vote for. So I'm not trying to lie low. I've got a whole notepad full of thoughts and clues that I'm keeping track of and when I find an 80% + guilty in my mind I will share. Thus far clues have been spread out and it's hard to narrow down to a suspect, and without DT help and Ace helping all we can do is sit back and wait for enough clues to line up on one person.

Why start putting suspects out in the open and setting yourself up to be killed if you are on the right track or being wrong and possibly getting a townie lynched. I can sit back and think and vote and make some comments and thoughts on peoples opinions of clues while I have my own detective work going, then when I have a really good candidate, I could PM Ace and tell him and let him relay it to the town. If I die now because of this I will not be happy, but I'd rather the mafia kill me than be lynched by my own fucking townies!

If you want to lynch me for, in my opinion, to blatant a clue in the whole being a Sure Shot, you can't lynch me for the nails. They are connected to different mafia.

Sure Shot = The Wolf
Nails = Cottonmouth

You could connect the apologizing to my sig. That goes with the Wolf as well.

So as far as The Wolf goes you have a

- Efficient killer
- Apologetic (either really sorry for turning on his brethren or a fake apology like you said)

Or you could go with the nail route and lynch me as Cottonmouth because he used nails to kill someone. Even though I don't fit with anything else that goes with him.

I'm not calling anyone stupid or retarded for their clue interpretations, just putting my two cents in. We need all the townies we can get alive, and we really need to lynch 2 mafia to catch up from the blunder of losing all our DTs.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
April 11 2008 01:56 GMT
#4109
On April 11 2008 10:23 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2008 10:06 Amber[LighT] wrote:
No one finds it ironic that the suicidebomber killed our last detective?!



almost like taunting us.

At this point I think we have to assume that the mafia has at least a partial list of rolled townies

Especially since they've been ignoring active townies for inactive ones, something that doesnt make sense as part of standard mafia strategy.



How?! This makes no sense to me. We aren't posting these people's names all over the forum, unless I missed that post.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
April 11 2008 02:01 GMT
#4110
^You have a reasonable excuse for abstaining--I wouldn't vote to lynch you just for that. All I say is that it is consistent with what a mafioso would probably want to do. As for the nails, I don't agree with you that they necessarily point to Cottonmouth. They were lying around: any of the mafiosi mentioned in the post might have left them there.

On April 11 2008 10:40 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2008 16:52 Camlito wrote:
I'd like to emphasize this once more:

We have the following certain information:
EITHER one out of
- imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie
is mafia, OR two out of
- Chezinu
- useLess
- aZnvaLiaNce
- fusionsdf
are mafia.
From among the second list, only one of useLess and aZnvaLiaNce can be mafia - not both -, and only one of Chezinu and fusionsdf can be mafia.

At worst, we have a 1/7 chance to get a mafia from among these, a stunning 2/4 at best, so i emphatically suggest we take this path in our investigations. Keep your eyes open for evidence against any of these guys!

My gut feeling says it's either useLess and fusionsdf or Evilmonkey, but it's just that: an unfounded gut feeling.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

We should really look at these lists more, as there is a much better chance.

As i said before, useLess has a high chance of being mafia, as one of the clues i remember referred to a mafia being tossed aside, which indicates he is rather "useless".


Ok 3rd time i will post this.

Unless im missing something or this is a joke, this should be looked at.

See where it sais "chezinu or fusionsdf" can be mafia? CHEZINU IS NOW DEAD!

I don't know if people missed this, or i am an idiot, or both - but this should be looked at.

(original post)
It's a good point. Are we sure that all those detective checks were from real detectives? (I suppose that if Ace doesn't tell us otherwise, we should assume so.)
I'll cast my second vote for fusion.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
April 11 2008 02:05 GMT
#4111
On April 11 2008 11:01 qrs wrote:
^You have a reasonable excuse for abstaining--I wouldn't vote to lynch you just for that. All I say is that it is consistent with what a mafioso would probably want to do. As for the nails, I don't agree with you that they necessarily point to Cottonmouth. They were lying around: any of the mafiosi mentioned in the post might have left them there.

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2008 10:40 Camlito wrote:
On April 08 2008 16:52 Camlito wrote:
I'd like to emphasize this once more:

We have the following certain information:
EITHER one out of
- imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie
is mafia, OR two out of
- Chezinu
- useLess
- aZnvaLiaNce
- fusionsdf
are mafia.
From among the second list, only one of useLess and aZnvaLiaNce can be mafia - not both -, and only one of Chezinu and fusionsdf can be mafia.

At worst, we have a 1/7 chance to get a mafia from among these, a stunning 2/4 at best, so i emphatically suggest we take this path in our investigations. Keep your eyes open for evidence against any of these guys!

My gut feeling says it's either useLess and fusionsdf or Evilmonkey, but it's just that: an unfounded gut feeling.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

We should really look at these lists more, as there is a much better chance.

As i said before, useLess has a high chance of being mafia, as one of the clues i remember referred to a mafia being tossed aside, which indicates he is rather "useless".


Ok 3rd time i will post this.

Unless im missing something or this is a joke, this should be looked at.

See where it sais "chezinu or fusionsdf" can be mafia? CHEZINU IS NOW DEAD!

I don't know if people missed this, or i am an idiot, or both - but this should be looked at.

(original post)
It's a good point. Are we sure that all those detective checks were from real detectives? (I suppose that if Ace doesn't tell us otherwise, we should assume so.)
I'll cast my second vote for fusion.

They were from New104 who turned out to be a DT , lets hope ace told us the truth
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suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
April 11 2008 02:06 GMT
#4112
On April 11 2008 10:29 qrs wrote:
Since my last post got buried after a minute here's the summary version of the clues that connect the Wolf to suresh0t:
1) Doesn't miss. 2) Tells Chuiu something that is very similar to suresh0t's sig. 3) Nails. suresh0t is holding a hammer in his profile pic.
Also, 4) suresh0t is on the Mandalor list and 5) he's been posting very lightly and bandwagoning or abstaining in votes.



So let me summarize on top of your summarization? ;-)

1) Doesn't miss
Seems a bit blatant but ok

2) The Sig
Similar but not VERY SIMILAR.

In my opinion Wolf is sincerely apologizing for betraying his brethren, not being sarcastic and apologizing for not believing in God haha.

3) Nails go to Cottonmouth. Yes Wolf used a nail to kill, but he didn't bring them into the scenario, he just used what was available. I would even go so far as to call Wolf resourceful more than a sure shot. He uses things that are around him when he kills, and he is very efficient.

4) Yes I'm on the Mandalor list. So yes I am a 25% chance to be mafia or whatever. So is everyone else on that list.

5) If you notice I'm a light poster in general. It's not like I went from 200 posts a day to 5 posts. I only come out and say anything when I am bored or find something interesting, or if I need to at least attempt to clear my name, which is apparently damning in and of itself. I don't know what you expect when you start talking about lynching someone, but I think speaking up and saying something is a trait of both a townie and a mafia.

Like I said I was trying to stick with Ace's voting thing. I followed it on day 3 and then I abstained and waited for Ace to clarify what he wanted to do, and then just didn't vote because well, it was clear who was getting lynched. Sorry for being lazy.

I know I already posted something about this but I wanted to reiterate and make it more compact in case you all didn't feel like reading my other post.

SO I'LL REITERATE MY THOUGHTS ON WOLF AND HIS TRAITS

- Efficient
- Resourceful
- Loyal to the majority (he is sorry for betraying but stays the course with the other mafia)
suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
April 11 2008 02:10 GMT
#4113
On April 11 2008 11:01 qrs wrote:
^You have a reasonable excuse for abstaining--I wouldn't vote to lynch you just for that. All I say is that it is consistent with what a mafioso would probably want to do. As for the nails, I don't agree with you that they necessarily point to Cottonmouth. They were lying around: any of the mafiosi mentioned in the post might have left them there.


He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

If you look there were five of them on the ground, in my opinion placed there to get Empy to investigate them. As he bent down Cottonmouth stabbed him with a nail, then stabbed 6 more in him. This means Cottonmouth was carrying them. He didn't just pick them up off the ground.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 11 2008 02:11 GMT
#4114
On April 11 2008 10:40 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2008 16:52 Camlito wrote:
I'd like to emphasize this once more:

We have the following certain information:
EITHER one out of
- imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie
is mafia, OR two out of
- Chezinu
- useLess
- aZnvaLiaNce
- fusionsdf
are mafia.
From among the second list, only one of useLess and aZnvaLiaNce can be mafia - not both -, and only one of Chezinu and fusionsdf can be mafia.

At worst, we have a 1/7 chance to get a mafia from among these, a stunning 2/4 at best, so i emphatically suggest we take this path in our investigations. Keep your eyes open for evidence against any of these guys!

My gut feeling says it's either useLess and fusionsdf or Evilmonkey, but it's just that: an unfounded gut feeling.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

We should really look at these lists more, as there is a much better chance.

As i said before, useLess has a high chance of being mafia, as one of the clues i remember referred to a mafia being tossed aside, which indicates he is rather "useless".


Ok 3rd time i will post this.

Unless im missing something or this is a joke, this should be looked at.

See where it sais "chezinu or fusionsdf" can be mafia? CHEZINU IS NOW DEAD!

I don't know if people missed this, or i am an idiot, or both - but this should be looked at.


Well I'm not mafia, so obviously you made a mistake.

Can you go over how you got this more clearly, because at best, it seems like either me an chezinu were both mafia, or one of the list of - imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie
is mafia, and even then, I'm not sure how its supported.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-11 02:19:07
April 11 2008 02:14 GMT
#4115
On April 11 2008 11:11 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2008 10:40 Camlito wrote:
On April 08 2008 16:52 Camlito wrote:
I'd like to emphasize this once more:

We have the following certain information:
EITHER one out of
- imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie
is mafia, OR two out of
- Chezinu
- useLess
- aZnvaLiaNce
- fusionsdf
are mafia.
From among the second list, only one of useLess and aZnvaLiaNce can be mafia - not both -, and only one of Chezinu and fusionsdf can be mafia.

At worst, we have a 1/7 chance to get a mafia from among these, a stunning 2/4 at best, so i emphatically suggest we take this path in our investigations. Keep your eyes open for evidence against any of these guys!

My gut feeling says it's either useLess and fusionsdf or Evilmonkey, but it's just that: an unfounded gut feeling.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

We should really look at these lists more, as there is a much better chance.

As i said before, useLess has a high chance of being mafia, as one of the clues i remember referred to a mafia being tossed aside, which indicates he is rather "useless".


Ok 3rd time i will post this.

Unless im missing something or this is a joke, this should be looked at.

See where it sais "chezinu or fusionsdf" can be mafia? CHEZINU IS NOW DEAD!

I don't know if people missed this, or i am an idiot, or both - but this should be looked at.


Well I'm not mafia, so obviously you made a mistake.

Can you go over how you got this more clearly, because at best, it seems like either me an chezinu were both mafia, or one of the list of - imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie
is mafia, and even then, I'm not sure how its supported.


I qouted it from Scorch from about page 194 or so.

I dont know if it's true or some april fools joke, but i brought it up to see what everyone else said.

Edit: qrs posted the link, read up.
sAviOr...
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
April 11 2008 02:20 GMT
#4116
On April 11 2008 11:11 fusionsdf wrote:
Can you go over how you got this more clearly, because at best, it seems like either me and chezinu were both mafia, or one of the list of - imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie
is mafia
Either one of you and Chezinu was Mafia and one of useless/aznvaliance was mafia as well, or one of the other three (going by those lists: I didn't see when they were originally posted). The thing is: whether you are Mafia or not, lynching you (out of the six) gives us the most information.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
April 11 2008 02:22 GMT
#4117
On April 11 2008 11:20 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2008 11:11 fusionsdf wrote:
Can you go over how you got this more clearly, because at best, it seems like either me and chezinu were both mafia, or one of the list of - imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie
is mafia
Either one of you and Chezinu was Mafia and one of useless/aznvaliance was mafia as well, or one of the other three (going by those lists: I didn't see when they were originally posted). The thing is: whether you are Mafia or not, lynching you (out of the six) gives us the most information.

True and you (fusion) really likes number (%)
Here's mine for you you have 1/2 chances of being a mafioso which mean 50% which is better than any % you have found yet
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 11 2008 02:32 GMT
#4118
On April 11 2008 10:56 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2008 10:23 fusionsdf wrote:
On April 11 2008 10:06 Amber[LighT] wrote:
No one finds it ironic that the suicidebomber killed our last detective?!



almost like taunting us.

At this point I think we have to assume that the mafia has at least a partial list of rolled townies

Especially since they've been ignoring active townies for inactive ones, something that doesnt make sense as part of standard mafia strategy.



How?! This makes no sense to me. We aren't posting these people's names all over the forum, unless I missed that post.

araav + irc
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
April 11 2008 02:38 GMT
#4119
We should not waste a lynch on fusionsdf atm
Reason: theres no clue towards him, and both useless and azn seems to be regular townie
I would pay more attention the Alventine,Imderek, and evilmonkey(my pick)
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
April 11 2008 02:43 GMT
#4120
On April 11 2008 11:32 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2008 10:56 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On April 11 2008 10:23 fusionsdf wrote:
On April 11 2008 10:06 Amber[LighT] wrote:
No one finds it ironic that the suicidebomber killed our last detective?!



almost like taunting us.

At this point I think we have to assume that the mafia has at least a partial list of rolled townies

Especially since they've been ignoring active townies for inactive ones, something that doesnt make sense as part of standard mafia strategy.



How?! This makes no sense to me. We aren't posting these people's names all over the forum, unless I missed that post.

araav + irc


So why aren't we targeting him? Did we decide it was okay to kill off all the players with special roles? Even if he's a townie that's shitty to do.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
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