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BlindAlbino
Ecuador176 Posts
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On April 11 2008 10:13 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Suresh0t is my 3rd suspect, after Siefu and L, all those things were said previously but the town is inactive as hell theres like 2-3 poeple finding clues and then we have out of nowhere (who doesnt post a lot) making post to defend themselves which is weird. Yeah, sorry, I thought the hammer was something new, but looking back, I see that Plexa had already alluded to it. Anyway, regardless of who found which clues, the stuff pointing to suresh0t is starting to add up, no? As opposed to the very strained interpretation of 12, since the numbers don't really add up to that. | ||
L
Canada4732 Posts
Your inability to count properly and your continued accusations after your evidence has been proven false kinda make you suspicious too, but mafia's a game of suspicions, so i suppose that's normal. I really do need to get back to studying, so don't expect much from me until tomorrow. | ||
fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On April 11 2008 10:06 Amber[LighT] wrote: No one finds it ironic that the suicidebomber killed our last detective?! almost like taunting us. At this point I think we have to assume that the mafia has at least a partial list of rolled townies Especially since they've been ignoring active townies for inactive ones, something that doesnt make sense as part of standard mafia strategy. | ||
HeRoS)Pink
Canada336 Posts
On April 11 2008 10:20 qrs wrote: Yeah, sorry, I thought the hammer was something new, but looking back, I see that Plexa had already alluded to it. Anyway, regardless of who found which clues, the stuff pointing to suresh0t is starting to add up, no? As opposed to the very strained interpretation of 12, since the numbers don't really add up to that. I have no problem with lynching Suresh0t instead of L for this day, but we can't let this clue go even if theres poeple who doesnt agree with it + he's on the list of potential mafia (10/37) | ||
qrs
United States3637 Posts
1) Doesn't miss. 2) Tells Chuiu something that is very similar to suresh0t's sig. 3) Nails. suresh0t is holding a hammer in his profile pic. Also, 4) suresh0t is on the Mandalor list and 5) he's been posting very lightly and bandwagoning or abstaining in votes. | ||
Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On April 08 2008 16:52 Camlito wrote: I'd like to emphasize this once more: We have the following certain information: EITHER one out of - imDerek - Evilmonkey - Alventenie is mafia, OR two out of - Chezinu - useLess - aZnvaLiaNce - fusionsdf are mafia. From among the second list, only one of useLess and aZnvaLiaNce can be mafia - not both -, and only one of Chezinu and fusionsdf can be mafia. At worst, we have a 1/7 chance to get a mafia from among these, a stunning 2/4 at best, so i emphatically suggest we take this path in our investigations. Keep your eyes open for evidence against any of these guys! My gut feeling says it's either useLess and fusionsdf or Evilmonkey, but it's just that: an unfounded gut feeling. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- We should really look at these lists more, as there is a much better chance. As i said before, useLess has a high chance of being mafia, as one of the clues i remember referred to a mafia being tossed aside, which indicates he is rather "useless". Ok 3rd time i will post this. Unless im missing something or this is a joke, this should be looked at. See where it sais "chezinu or fusionsdf" can be mafia? CHEZINU IS NOW DEAD! I don't know if people missed this, or i am an idiot, or both - but this should be looked at. | ||
suresh0t
United States295 Posts
I followed Aces voting request then I ended up abstaining from the last vote because I thought Ace was going to notify me who to vote for to stick with the plan. I was offline a bit and came back and there were still no requests from Ace telling me who to vote for. So I'm not trying to lie low. I've got a whole notepad full of thoughts and clues that I'm keeping track of and when I find an 80% + guilty in my mind I will share. Thus far clues have been spread out and it's hard to narrow down to a suspect, and without DT help and Ace helping all we can do is sit back and wait for enough clues to line up on one person. Why start putting suspects out in the open and setting yourself up to be killed if you are on the right track or being wrong and possibly getting a townie lynched. I can sit back and think and vote and make some comments and thoughts on peoples opinions of clues while I have my own detective work going, then when I have a really good candidate, I could PM Ace and tell him and let him relay it to the town. If I die now because of this I will not be happy, but I'd rather the mafia kill me than be lynched by my own fucking townies! If you want to lynch me for, in my opinion, to blatant a clue in the whole being a Sure Shot, you can't lynch me for the nails. They are connected to different mafia. Sure Shot = The Wolf Nails = Cottonmouth You could connect the apologizing to my sig. That goes with the Wolf as well. So as far as The Wolf goes you have a - Efficient killer - Apologetic (either really sorry for turning on his brethren or a fake apology like you said) Or you could go with the nail route and lynch me as Cottonmouth because he used nails to kill someone. Even though I don't fit with anything else that goes with him. I'm not calling anyone stupid or retarded for their clue interpretations, just putting my two cents in. We need all the townies we can get alive, and we really need to lynch 2 mafia to catch up from the blunder of losing all our DTs. | ||
Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On April 11 2008 10:23 fusionsdf wrote: almost like taunting us. At this point I think we have to assume that the mafia has at least a partial list of rolled townies Especially since they've been ignoring active townies for inactive ones, something that doesnt make sense as part of standard mafia strategy. How?! This makes no sense to me. We aren't posting these people's names all over the forum, unless I missed that post. | ||
qrs
United States3637 Posts
On April 11 2008 10:40 Camlito wrote: Ok 3rd time i will post this. Unless im missing something or this is a joke, this should be looked at. See where it sais "chezinu or fusionsdf" can be mafia? CHEZINU IS NOW DEAD! I don't know if people missed this, or i am an idiot, or both - but this should be looked at. (original post) It's a good point. Are we sure that all those detective checks were from real detectives? (I suppose that if Ace doesn't tell us otherwise, we should assume so.) I'll cast my second vote for fusion. | ||
HeRoS)Pink
Canada336 Posts
On April 11 2008 11:01 qrs wrote: ^You have a reasonable excuse for abstaining--I wouldn't vote to lynch you just for that. All I say is that it is consistent with what a mafioso would probably want to do. As for the nails, I don't agree with you that they necessarily point to Cottonmouth. They were lying around: any of the mafiosi mentioned in the post might have left them there. (original post) It's a good point. Are we sure that all those detective checks were from real detectives? (I suppose that if Ace doesn't tell us otherwise, we should assume so.) I'll cast my second vote for fusion. They were from New104 who turned out to be a DT , lets hope ace told us the truth | ||
suresh0t
United States295 Posts
On April 11 2008 10:29 qrs wrote: Since my last post got buried after a minute here's the summary version of the clues that connect the Wolf to suresh0t: 1) Doesn't miss. 2) Tells Chuiu something that is very similar to suresh0t's sig. 3) Nails. suresh0t is holding a hammer in his profile pic. Also, 4) suresh0t is on the Mandalor list and 5) he's been posting very lightly and bandwagoning or abstaining in votes. So let me summarize on top of your summarization? ;-) 1) Doesn't miss Seems a bit blatant but ok 2) The Sig Similar but not VERY SIMILAR. In my opinion Wolf is sincerely apologizing for betraying his brethren, not being sarcastic and apologizing for not believing in God haha. 3) Nails go to Cottonmouth. Yes Wolf used a nail to kill, but he didn't bring them into the scenario, he just used what was available. I would even go so far as to call Wolf resourceful more than a sure shot. He uses things that are around him when he kills, and he is very efficient. 4) Yes I'm on the Mandalor list. So yes I am a 25% chance to be mafia or whatever. So is everyone else on that list. 5) If you notice I'm a light poster in general. It's not like I went from 200 posts a day to 5 posts. I only come out and say anything when I am bored or find something interesting, or if I need to at least attempt to clear my name, which is apparently damning in and of itself. I don't know what you expect when you start talking about lynching someone, but I think speaking up and saying something is a trait of both a townie and a mafia. Like I said I was trying to stick with Ace's voting thing. I followed it on day 3 and then I abstained and waited for Ace to clarify what he wanted to do, and then just didn't vote because well, it was clear who was getting lynched. Sorry for being lazy. I know I already posted something about this but I wanted to reiterate and make it more compact in case you all didn't feel like reading my other post. SO I'LL REITERATE MY THOUGHTS ON WOLF AND HIS TRAITS - Efficient - Resourceful - Loyal to the majority (he is sorry for betraying but stays the course with the other mafia) | ||
suresh0t
United States295 Posts
On April 11 2008 11:01 qrs wrote: ^You have a reasonable excuse for abstaining--I wouldn't vote to lynch you just for that. All I say is that it is consistent with what a mafioso would probably want to do. As for the nails, I don't agree with you that they necessarily point to Cottonmouth. They were lying around: any of the mafiosi mentioned in the post might have left them there. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. If you look there were five of them on the ground, in my opinion placed there to get Empy to investigate them. As he bent down Cottonmouth stabbed him with a nail, then stabbed 6 more in him. This means Cottonmouth was carrying them. He didn't just pick them up off the ground. | ||
fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On April 11 2008 10:40 Camlito wrote: Ok 3rd time i will post this. Unless im missing something or this is a joke, this should be looked at. See where it sais "chezinu or fusionsdf" can be mafia? CHEZINU IS NOW DEAD! I don't know if people missed this, or i am an idiot, or both - but this should be looked at. Well I'm not mafia, so obviously you made a mistake. Can you go over how you got this more clearly, because at best, it seems like either me an chezinu were both mafia, or one of the list of - imDerek - Evilmonkey - Alventenie is mafia, and even then, I'm not sure how its supported. | ||
Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On April 11 2008 11:11 fusionsdf wrote: Well I'm not mafia, so obviously you made a mistake. Can you go over how you got this more clearly, because at best, it seems like either me an chezinu were both mafia, or one of the list of - imDerek - Evilmonkey - Alventenie is mafia, and even then, I'm not sure how its supported. I qouted it from Scorch from about page 194 or so. I dont know if it's true or some april fools joke, but i brought it up to see what everyone else said. Edit: qrs posted the link, read up. | ||
qrs
United States3637 Posts
On April 11 2008 11:11 fusionsdf wrote: Either one of you and Chezinu was Mafia and one of useless/aznvaliance was mafia as well, or one of the other three (going by those lists: I didn't see when they were originally posted). The thing is: whether you are Mafia or not, lynching you (out of the six) gives us the most information.Can you go over how you got this more clearly, because at best, it seems like either me and chezinu were both mafia, or one of the list of - imDerek - Evilmonkey - Alventenie is mafia | ||
HeRoS)Pink
Canada336 Posts
On April 11 2008 11:20 qrs wrote: Either one of you and Chezinu was Mafia and one of useless/aznvaliance was mafia as well, or one of the other three (going by those lists: I didn't see when they were originally posted). The thing is: whether you are Mafia or not, lynching you (out of the six) gives us the most information. True and you (fusion) really likes number (%) Here's mine for you you have 1/2 chances of being a mafioso which mean 50% which is better than any % you have found yet | ||
fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On April 11 2008 10:56 Amber[LighT] wrote: How?! This makes no sense to me. We aren't posting these people's names all over the forum, unless I missed that post. araav + irc | ||
HeRoS)Pink
Canada336 Posts
Reason: theres no clue towards him, and both useless and azn seems to be regular townie I would pay more attention the Alventine,Imderek, and evilmonkey(my pick) | ||
Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
So why aren't we targeting him? Did we decide it was okay to kill off all the players with special roles? Even if he's a townie that's shitty to do. | ||
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