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On February 11 2008 13:46 Chuiu wrote: So we're not allowed to lie about our roles? Or even tell the truth and make people think we're lying?Of course not. All roles are secret, thats what makes the game what it is. Yup, I updated the OP. | ||
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On February 11 2008 13:58 Tracil wrote: There's no rule against it, you can totally BS whether or not you have a role or not. Alright, sweet. On February 11 2008 13:58 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: If I understand correctly we have to vote for a mayor first, then night comes and the mafia makes their hits, then the lynching vote starts.when do the voting starts to lynch people | ||
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edit: ok, apparently I assumed right :D | ||
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On February 11 2008 16:07 Chuiu wrote: I don't know if that's supposed to be a clue, but because I'm paranoid I'm gonna try to avoid voting any forum veterans for mayor.Mafia had been infesting the quiet town for the past decade taking up positions of importance and gaining trust through misguided joy and position. I vote for Tracil for mayor | ||
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On February 11 2008 16:07 Chuiu wrote: he cut the laughter short a scolded them because he's so much better than them...SoMuchBetter!A few of them laughed but one of them cut the laughter short, scolding them for their immature actions. ok, I'm really just being paranoid now. | ||
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ok that was a joke, but you're right, if it turns out that we elected a mafioso mayor we can just lynch him. edit: if we decide to lynch the mayor his bodyguards won't protect him right? edit2: reread first post, yeah the mayor can still be lynched ignoring his bodyguards. | ||
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On February 12 2008 09:35 Caller wrote: man this game is like fucking deathnote on crack haha so true. | ||
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I know I probably didn't really add anything new, but I just felt like posting.... | ||
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Unless I misunderstood the whole day/night cycle thing and they're waiting for a better time. | ||
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That's not official, I'm just think outloud...or thinking on the keyboard...or whatever. | ||
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Poll: Who do you think will get lynched first? (Vote): ShaLLoW[baY] (Vote): Dr.Dragoon (Vote): Someone else Just curious about how people are planning to vote now. | ||
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Poll: If double lynch is declared, what are Dragoons chances of survival? (Vote): Zero (Vote): FUCKING ZERO Poll: If mayor is mafia, what're dragoons chances of survival? (Vote): 100% he is mafia after all... (Vote): OVER FUCKING 9000!!!!! no offence dragoon, it just seems too many people are on the anti-dragoon bandwagon and I want to hop on before it becomes uncool. | ||
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I have vista if that makes a difference. | ||
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However a mafia pardoner could easily pardon up to four of his fellow mafia members if they get found out, and I doubt it would be all that difficult to make up an excuse as to why they should be pardoned. Also since a pardoner can pardon up to 4 people that means 4 extra day/night cycles the mafia have to make their hits and win the game. What I'm trying to say...is that we should probably lynch the pardoner first to be absolutely sure. Edit; crap, forgot about the extra vote counts...nvm everything I said then. | ||
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On February 12 2008 15:22 Dr.Dragoon wrote: It's not really about the PM. It's mostly about your reaction to it and the way you defended yourself that got everyone suspicious.You don't have to lynch someone right away. Besides, another reason why you would be a bad mayor is that you suspect me so much anyways. The only real evidence is an obviously fake screen by shallow. The format is shady and doesn't follow the chain of events. Not to mention the writing is all off compared to mine. Shallow likes going around and accusing people and making joke accusations. There's also the fact that we haven't always gotten along, which could easily be the reason for him to target me. | ||
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But to be perfectly honest...you were pretty much screwed once shallow posted that picture since anyway you may have reacted could've been interpretted as mafia behaviour...except maybe silence...but that still would've been iffy. Anyways the way shallow presented you in his picture (for the sake of arguement I'll pretend it's fake) and the way you acted afterwards probably made people think that it's very likely you were the same person. On the other hand if you would've denied it with as much grace and sophistication as is possible on an internet forum...you may have gotten a small chance to get away. | ||
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On February 12 2008 16:33 infinity21 wrote: Hey you, I already said I was a townie. You gonna lynch a fellow townie? >_< You could be lieing, I'm not accussing you, just stating that declaring yourself a towny doesn't make you safe. | ||
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On February 13 2008 01:17 wurm wrote: That sounds very eerily like something a mafia would say...Happy accusing people. | ||
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I officially change my vote I vote for MiniMoose Despite the fact that I don't know enough about him to be completely sure he isn't mafia, I at least trust his judgement after skimming through past SEN games. | ||
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[QUOTE]On February 13 2008 09:41 Falcynn wrote: Anyways, that "clue" could way more easily relate to Hawk.[/QUOTE] Who's not signed up to play? [QUOTE]ah whoops, I could've sworn that I saw him posting a few speculations here earlier. Well then in that case I really have nothing to give except my word that I'm not mafia. | ||
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On February 13 2008 14:06 JeeJee wrote: Mafia don't have special roles afaik. Mafia IS their special role.well, as i understand it, mafia can also have special roles yes? i simply said he had something to hide. also, is it possible for a paramedic to watch himself during the night? would that make him as veteran 2.0? moreover, if pardoner is under effect of bodyguards (which i assume are randomly selected from townies with no special abilities), does he know who they are? it says only the mayor knows, but that doesn't make a lot of sense just clarifying a few issues O_o | ||
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what was that about just now? | ||
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I'll say it again, I'm not mafia...other than shallow's mouse clue, I don't see any justification for people messaging/PMing me to see if I'm mafia. | ||
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Edit; fixed page number. | ||
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Or something along those lines... | ||
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On February 14 2008 13:04 Empyrean wrote: Well I hope the game doesn't die, then. Yeah, because if the game dies then you won't get to use your awesome mafia powers isn't that right?!?!?!?!?!?! /wildaccusation edit: that goes double for you Folca | ||
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you joined on the date 7/28/03 28/7=4 2003-4=1999 1999/7=285.5 501(your postcount)-285.5=215.5 215.5/6(the amount of letters in your name)=35.9 exactly 35.9 years ago the movie The Godfather came out, which I'm sure was your main inspiration for...joining the mafia!!!! ADMIT IT!!! | ||
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You joine 7/25/07 7/25+07=7.28 if you take your name as a simple code each letter representing a number (A=1 B=2 etc.) then add up all the values you get 104 728-104=624 62/4=15.5 Fifteen and a half years ago mafia boss John Gotti was sentenced to prison, and after this event you took over as mob boss DIDN'T YOU?!?!?! | ||
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seriously, I'm too sleepy. | ||
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Fakesteve was born 1986 and there are currently 32 people in his fanclub 1986-32=1954 his birthday is June 22 (6/22) 1954+6-22=1938 November 9, 1938 - Holocaust: Kristallnacht begins - In Germany, the "night of broken glass" begins as Nazi troops and sympathizers loot and burn Jewish businesses (the all night affair saw 7,500 Jewish businesses destroyed, 267 synagogues burned, 91 Jews killed, and at least 25,000 Jewish men arrested). HOLY....FUCKING....SHIT | ||
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On February 15 2008 05:24 demonic_phate wrote: pfft, that's the lazy mans way of doing it, where are the crazy spontaneous mathematical equations?217 BC - Battle of Raphia: Ptolemy IV of Egypt defeats Antiochus III the Great of the Seleucid kingdom 168 BC - Battle of Pydna: Romans under Lucius Aemilius Paullus defeat and capture Macedonian King Perseus, ending the Third Macedonian War 1593 - Battle of Sisak: Croat troops defeat the Turks 1633 - The Holy Office in Rome forces Galileo Galilei to recant his scientific view that the Sun, not the Earth, is the center of the Universe. 1783 - Poisonous cloud from Laki volcanic eruption in Iceland reaches Le Havre in France. 1812 - Napoleon declares war to Russia 1815 - Second abdication of Napoleon 1848 - Beginning of the June Days Uprising in Paris. 1866 - Battle of Custoza: an Austrian army defeats the Italian army during the Austro-Prussian War. 1893 - The Royal Navy battleship HMS Camperdown accidentally rams the British Mediterranean Fleet flagship HMS Victoria which sinks taking 358 crew with her, including the fleet's commander, Vice-Admiral Sir George Tryon. 1898 - Spanish-American War: United States Marines land in Cuba. 1918 - Hammond circus train wreck kills 86 and injures 127 near Hammond, Indiana. 1940 - France forced to sign the Second Compiègne armistice with Nazi Germany. 1941 - Nazi Germany invades the Soviet Union in Operation Barbarossa, one of the most dramatic turning points of World War II. 1941 - Various Communist and Socialist French Resistance movements merge to one group. 1944 - Opening day of the Soviet Union's Operation Bagration against Army Group Centre 1954 - Murder of Honora Parker in Christchurch (New Zealand)by her daughter Pauline Parker and her girlfriend Juliet Hulme,both 16 years old 1962 - An Air France Boeing 707 jet crashes in bad weather in Guadeloupe, West Indies killing 113 1969 - The Cuyahoga River caught fire, which triggered a crack-down on pollution in the river. 2002 - An earthquake in western Iran measuring 6.5 on the Richter scale kills more than 261 people. all of these things happened on June 22nd >.> | ||
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On February 15 2008 04:51 CDRdude wrote: or maybe the mafia will kill him just to make us thinks he's right.we'd better hope that a paramedic is watching over L2W. Although, if L2W dies, it'll prove his accusations correct. | ||
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On February 16 2008 09:20 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Seriously, as soon as the new day starts it'll get totally awesome again. I mean you can only randomly accuse people for so long, because eventually you run out of clues to base accusations on. Once the new day starts and we get more clues then it'll be the last 50 pages all over again.Try reading the first 50 pages and tell me it's not intense. | ||
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Damn you JeeJee T.T | ||
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Vote for Dr.Dragoon even if he's not mafia, his whole "I'd rather live and lose than die and win" attitude seems pretty detrimental to us townies. Even if it turns out he's a townie I'm sure everyone will still agree it was for the best. | ||
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Edit: Also this is just another random point, I'm kind of sick so I might not make much sense. Anyways I just thought of a motive for Dragoon to send that PM assuming he's mafia. Maybe he was hoping that shallow would laugh at his PM stating that he's mafia, and play along by writing back something along the lines of "haha, yeah I mafia ". Then dragoon would post a screenshot of that PM to try to make sure everyone would vote to lynch a townie. bah...I dunno. | ||
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1. An animal hunted or caught for food; quarry. 2. One that is defenseless, especially in the face of attack; a victim. 3. The act or practice of preying. Ok...so that didn't help, and I can't really understand Chuiu's choice of words in wanting to write prey instead of victim. However you said another clue refering to prey, and the only one I can think of that was mentioned was that whole "not a mouse was stirring" bit in day 1. That's usually a very common line to imply that a whole town/area/house/whatever is completely silent. So if you believe that Chuiu's choice of words would lead to me then there's really nothing I can argue about that since I have the only username in this game that has anything to do with hunting (except maybe to_miss_the_mark, but then that wouldn't make sense). However there isn't "another" clue referring to me. damn it...I'm seriously not thinking straight right now. | ||
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Edit; I mean that obviously only if I get a sudden rush of voters and people start changing their dragoon votes to me. | ||
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I officially change my vote I vote for RtS)Nightmare to be lynched I don't really have much to accuse him on since the clues he's being accused on are only slightly less vague as the ones I'm being accused on. However since I'm probably the only one who's 100% sure about my townie affiliation (except the mafia obviously) I changed my vote since it's at the very least a 1 in 5 chance that Nightmare is mafia. Edit: As of right now the count is Dragoon: 22 Nightmare: 8 Me: 2 edit2: didn't realize that steve voted for nightmare, added in his extra votes. | ||
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On February 17 2008 06:26 Empyrean wrote: Actually once you're dead you're not allowed to say anything that might influence anyone's vote. All you're allowed to post I believe is stuff like "lol, look who else died" or "wow this game is getting intense".He can still participate in non-lynch/vote type stuff after he's dead, so a mafia hit to stop someone from talking is useless. | ||
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On February 09 2008 12:55 Chuiu wrote: Vigilante - You have the ability to kill 2 people of your choice at any night phase in the game. You don't have to use both at once. But be careful, because a clue will be left behind that points to you for the mafia (or the town) to interpret. You must wait until the second night of the game to act, however. | ||
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On February 17 2008 08:59 CDRdude wrote: Everyone wants to lynch Dr.Dragoon, people think that the line in the day postCrap, I need to catch up on 10 pages of this, I've been doing other stuff. Any compelling conclusions? A little more than a few hours later kAra was tossing in his sleep, artofmagic heard him from the next room and came in to see what was wrong. points to Nightmare, and apparently the mafia stuffed his "prey" into a sleeping bag which points to me since my name is a misspelling of a bird of prey. Also because the mafia threw a body out the window and Falcon's swoop or something. Double lynch is in effect so you can vote for two people. Edit; also since we can vote for two people I'll cast my extra vote for Dr.Dragoon. | ||
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On February 17 2008 09:59 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I don't believe so.Wait can you use both votes on the same person? | ||
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I vote for Dr.Dragoon and Notsorry | ||
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A little more than a few hours later kAra was tossing in his sleep, artofmagic heard him from the next room and came in to see what was wrong. People think that part relates to a...nightmare. The only reason I give you the benefit of the doubt is because I've realized how the way some of these sentences are worded can be misleading. | ||
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On February 17 2008 14:30 Chuiu wrote: one yelling and screaming for his life and bitter to the end, the other quiet and confused. ROFL can anyone guess which one's which? | ||
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On February 17 2008 14:48 ulszz wrote: The only evidence on NotSorry that I've seen anyone post is based off of clue interpretations, and after Dragoon and Nightmare's death I don't really hold any interpretations in very high regard anymore.Lol, well we got owned. At least I can say I didn't vote for either of them . Well, I originally voted for Dr. Dragoon but I changed it. It seems like the only real evidence we have at the moment is pointing towards NotSorry. I guess we will have to wait and see what tonight brings us though. edit-added | ||
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On February 18 2008 05:33 Fishball wrote: Well after getting 3 lynches wrong, if we make 2 more random lynchings that'll give us like...an 80% chance of hitting mafia.No point playing the game of words. Lets just lynch you and we'll find out, right or wrong /noobstatistics | ||
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On February 18 2008 12:04 demonic_phate wrote: I think it has to deal with pronounciation then the actual fact of whether or not the vowel is in front. In the case of unit, you pronounce it as yunit, not oonit, if it was the later then there would be an "an" in front since it's a vowel sound in front.So your suggesting that whether or not you add an "n" to a if it proceeds certain words is totally random? As with most grammatical rules in english, there are exceptions EDIT: Damnit rpf beat me to it and why the fuck are we talking about grammar in a mafia game? | ||
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On February 18 2008 12:11 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: and why do you need the proper way to say that? eh? because you're mafia and don't want to look like an idiot in front of your victims?Because saying "I am about to make a proposal which you will be unable to turn down" is a lot less intimidating than "I'm gonna make you an offer you cannot refuse" | ||
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On February 19 2008 01:35 Romance_us wrote: Well if we kill fakesteve we don't get to elect another mayor, whether or not losing out on the remaining 3 double lynches is worth getting rid of him is still up in the air though.It makes the most logical sense to me that the people talking the MOST and stirring shit up are the most likely to be suspects. They have already edged us on to lynching two innocent people in one night. I certainly do not trust TRACIL or fakesteve for that matter. And even if fakesteve is not mafioso, we clearly need a more level-headed mayor. He used one of his double-lynches to kill two innocent townies for Christ's sake! | ||
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On February 19 2008 11:41 Empyrean wrote: Alright, someone anyone, pick two numbers between 1 and 6. whatever number you pick isn't going to directly be that number (for example if you pick two, I'm not going to say lynch whoever #2 is just...ok I don't know how I'm going to explain this without giving away my technique(I'll explain afterwards)) just someone pick two numbers between 1 and 6.Actually, form a mafia standpoint, it would probably make more sense to kill randomly in order to not have any leads as to who they are. In my opinion, we should just start lynching people randomly. Just select random numbers from the list and lynch them. edit: might work better with 1 and 6 actually. | ||
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On February 19 2008 12:04 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I said I'll explain my technique afterwards so you can decide if it's fine or not -,-So we pick a number and you tell us who to lynch. In other words, you have full control over who gets lynched? Don't think so. edit: and for even more randomness, tell me what state you're from if you're in the United States, if not then I'll come up with something else. edit2: goddamnit, I hope noone's figured out what I'm getting at from that last part. | ||
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fuck I trust Tracil, and #12 is dead, someone else numbers and state. edit2: the BC lotto has the same numbers as the Canadian lottery page I checked so it's the same. | ||
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so lynch zdd and so no fek, anyone else agree? | ||
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You tell me what state you're from and 2 numbers between 1 and 6. I check out that states latest lotto winners and whatever pick the winning lotto numbers that correspond with your numbers. (first winning lotto number, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, you get the idea) | ||
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edit; omfg that's genius!!!!! so we lynch fen? | ||
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Edit: you have 3 minutes, if it takes longer than that we'll know you're trying to create a formula that follows your accusation meaning you're mafia trying to further your own agenda. If you take longer than 3 minutes we lynch you, understand? ok have fun ^_^ Edit2: ehhh...should make it a bit more lenient. | ||
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On February 19 2008 12:48 demonic_phate wrote: Give us your method, must I remind you you're on a time trial?Farg... erm, well I got erm 46... so erm... | ||
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On February 19 2008 21:14 Tracil wrote: Bah, I only replied to that because I thought that if I just ignored it people would say "omg, he's trying to lie low now, he HAS to be mafia!". Anyways I have yet to decide fully on who I want to lynch, I'll be gone all day but when I get back I'll look through all the clues and try to figure out the best way to place my vote.7) Falcynn reacted rather sharply when someone pointed out a clue that seemed to point to him; to be fair, other people were likewise treating it as remarkably solid. I just... didn't really think it was a big deal, but he seemed to overreact a bit. Not too sure here. Here's some quote. | ||
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On February 20 2008 13:27 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: Would you care to explain? I mean I have my doubts too, but saying that bluntly seems kind of suspicious...caller is not mafia | ||
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You know it'd probably just be easier to say read the first post... | ||
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So for that reason I'll go ahead and Vote for Live2Win to get lynched I don't really have a strong feeling about this so I probably will change my vote eventually. However I'm just trying to offset the caller votes for now. | ||
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On February 21 2008 06:51 Amber[LighT] wrote: Can this be 100% verified by chuiu? I'm under the impression everyone is a 'towny' so wouldn't saying you're a bodyguard be an unfair advantage? Bodyguard - Random towny(ies) will receive the role of bodyguard once the mayor and pardoner have been elected. The mayor alone will know who these people are. Random and townies. Meaning that Chuiu picks bodyguards randomly out of a pool of plain townies, so only townies without special roles can be randomly chosen as a body guard. Mafia don't count as townies, they pretend to be townies in the game, but by the rules they're never classified as townies.Edit: ok I'm only assuming that bodyguards can't have any other towny roles, but I'm pretty sure everything else is fact. Edit2: Ok technically mafia ARE townies during the day, but during night they're purely mafia and since bodyguards work only in the night it's not possible for a mafia to be bodyguard. (also that wouldn't make logical sense in a "realistic" point of view, because then wouldn't a mafia bodyguard kill the mayor the first chance he gets?) | ||
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On February 21 2008 11:16 Scooter wrote: eh? what do you mean? If they're a towny then we're that much closer to losing this game and we've wasted a lynch, if they're mafia then we're that much closer to winning the game and one more mafioso from reducing the mafias kill power. We can lose or gain alot either way regardless of their activity.Or, you can lynch someone who's been very inactive, because if they're a towny you've lost very little. However, if they're mafia you've gained very little since they haven't had any posts that you can look at. | ||
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On February 21 2008 13:57 randombum wrote: Yeah, we're doing horribly. The only good news I can see out of this is that probably all the paramedics will try to save live2win, and the mafia probably realizing this will probably send like 4 guys to kill him which would draw them off of the rest of us at least...man... we suck as townies huh? we've revealed both a bodyguard AND a paramedic (assuming they are not lying.) However we now have no major candidates to lynch. ok it's not much of a brightside but it's something. | ||
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I retract my vote for Live2Win and will abstain I seriously can't decide who to vote and I'd rather not be responcible for lynching a townie. | ||
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On February 22 2008 09:42 randombum wrote: There aren't any promotions if we lynch FS then we get no more mayors, noone gets promoted, noone gets elected, we just continue on without a mayor. That's why I"m saying if we're gonna lynch FS let's do it later when it seems as if mafia might be able to outvote the townies or at least until he uses most of his double lynches.Nemy, i'm pretty sure we lose our mayoral priveleges.... unles tracil gets promoted? | ||
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On February 22 2008 13:38 Dr.Dragoon wrote: Alright thanks, I guess that'll probably help me with getting the pylon earlier and not having my probe sitting around going "wtf?" :D.He's been doing it for awhile now. Basically he's just pointing out that the arguments against him suck. P.S. Falcynn, build your probe before you send the rest to minerals. | ||
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I dunno...just a hunch. | ||
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On February 22 2008 14:12 Caller wrote: Dude, you should like totally vote for NotSorry and SMB...all the cool guys are doing it!I will abstain with both of my votes until persuaded otherwise. + Show Spoiler + no but seriously, I have a really good hunch about one of them being mafia | ||
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A GOOD HUNCH!!!! arghhh, fine I'll probably change my notsorry vote as soon as I figure out a better candidate...maybe. | ||
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On February 22 2008 21:03 NotSorry wrote: ok seriously, everytime I'm about to think that you might be innocent, you say something to justify your actions as probably being mafia...I mean do you WANT to get lynched?Maybe they would since you wouldn't expect it, and if you did decide to kill one it would make the other look guilt free afterwards, don't you think? Give up someone who's already going to get lynched to save your own ass. | ||
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On February 23 2008 00:04 Amber[LighT] wrote: TBH it really doesn't matter if FS is mafia, I sort of have a hunch with him like I have with SMB and NS, but I'm hoping to keep him alive because his double lynches are still way too valuable to throw away and his extra votes right now aren't enough to go against the town (as illustrated by the fact that Tracil is still behind).you guys need to look back at the votes for fakesteve!!!!!! This is a hunch but thenpeople who voted for Steve are probably mafia! Look at their posts they all say the same. We need our mayor to offset mafia votes. If he is gone then the mafia will be able to rally together and sway votes. Tracil is not mafia either and we need him to win this game. Don't put our two key players on the chopping block! Look at the evidence via clues!!! I vote for SoMuchBetter & NotSorry Edit: but then again you're on my list too...so now I"m not sure. | ||
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On February 23 2008 12:24 SoMuchBetter wrote: Your signature has scum in it, you're definetly mafia.Tracil is always leading the the mobs against villagers fakesteve is calling double lynches everytime everyone wants villagers lynched | ||
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On February 23 2008 13:43 Tracil wrote: Yeah...and like SMB has scum in his signature and all....JeeJee is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Town MUST LYNCH and arguing to 'lynch less than we can' is foolishness. Town can't win without lynches at all. If Town lynches nothing but townies and loses the game, the way to fix it in future games is *not* to 'lynch nobody'. So. Yeah. Re: EmeraldSparks: Actually, there's one more reason to run for mayor, which is that you're running because you're a townie and you don't want mafia to get it. That was part of why I ran (although putting that into your campaign is pointless), with the other part thinking that I would make a good mayor. I would.. agree from an objective standpoint that my power is less useful than FakeSteves. I guess. I don't really think I've been scummy, like, at all. See next paragraph. I disagree heavily with the concept that if Steve is town, I am likely mafia. I can point again and again to actual, *real* flaws in Steve's play. People have trouble doing the same to me, as evidenced by arguments that say "Tracil is likely to be scum BECAUSE scum would want to run for mayor" or "He's scum if x is town"- these aren't targeting my actual play. I do NOT want to hit Steve while he's using his powers (as they are 100% protown) but I don't really trust him, let me make that clear. SoMuchBetter is not bringing things up because he's scared of being hit at night. I think that's a load of crap and not a valid excuse at all. If every townie was too scared to talk and try and argue things, town would have no chance whatsoever. just saying...seems kind of suspicious. Edit: but also despite me thinking that there's a good chance FS might be mafia, I would still 100% support him being pardoned as his usefulness disregarding affiliation has been mentioned already numerous times. | ||
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Also I'd like to apologize to SoMuchBetter for voting based purely off a hunch. | ||
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On February 23 2008 20:01 Tracil wrote: This is TL....EVERYONE is like that.Hunt scum. Look for logical inconsistencies. Lynch people who don't post reasoning and follow one or two loud people like sheep. | ||
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On February 24 2008 01:58 Romance_us wrote: Yeah but now we're two townies away from the mob outnumbering us.:/ We need to get our shit together. Although we did lose our capability to double lynch, if we are optimistic as possible, we lost two townies who didn't contribute anyways.. ...as you can see I'm not a very optimistic person. | ||
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On February 24 2008 02:14 wurm wrote: Paramedics can't save people from lynches, only mafia hits.Same goes for Live2Win, he had me going with the whole "I'm a Paramedic" bit, but if you were a true paramedic and DIDN'T SUSPECT FAKESTEVE OF BEING MAFIA, WHY DIDN'T YOU PROTECT HIM? Edit: bah, Empryean beat me to it. | ||
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C'mon, someone, give me a state and two numbers between 1 and 6. | ||
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Or ofcourse with my luck, if the detective decided to come out of inactivity and say "omg I found a mafia" we won't believe him....we're boned. | ||
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On February 25 2008 02:36 Amber[LighT] wrote: wait wtf? You think I might get hit tonight? I haven't done anything this day except just expanding on clues that people have already noted and pushing heavily to just lynch random people...If you really are a medic I would suggest protecting myself and try to get someone to protect you. I am also going to say protect Falcynn and Southlight. i dun wanna die T.T | ||
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On February 25 2008 04:28 bumatlarge wrote: wait...what?IM A MAFIA!.... if i were playing cause townies are screwed. | ||
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Tracil's been on my list for a while (not very high on my list, but on it nonetheless) and since at least one of the mayor candidates has to be mafia I figure it's probably smart to vote for him. Also as the days go by and us townies continue failing to lynch any mafia I'm just slowly losing interest and relying on my gut more... | ||
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On February 28 2008 05:49 imDerek wrote: wtf?yes of course my Hamlet quote is related to swords but you need to look closer to see who else actually HAS a sword btw, that iiaaargh was said by a mafia so yah. Chuiu looked up once again to see his executioner, "You're never going to be trusted iaaagh" the knife pierced his throat quickly, in seconds he was dead. who the hell stabs someone and goes "iaaarrggggh" obviously it was Chuiu who said that, hence why he stopped mid sentence to make that scream. I didn't really think much of it, but since you're defending yourself with lies I'm becoming incredibly suspicious of you now...Edit: You could've easily defended yourself by saying something like "oh that clue could point to anyone whose name starts with an "i"" but the fact that you chose to defend yourself by just completely throwing out that possibility makes you seem very mafia-ish. | ||
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On February 28 2008 07:50 Eti307 wrote: How do we know that there were 5 mafia voting for Tracil? I'm not trying to say you're wrong it's just I haven't been as active as I used to be and I'm guessing I just missed something, but if this is true I'd like to see where you guys managed to at least assume this.Glad we finally got one! With 5 mafias voting for Tracil, it highly drops the suspicions I had of him... but we don't know maybe he just planned that and the detective just fucked his plan up. Edit: ah, found Alventine's post, nvm what I just said then. | ||
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Edit: I mostly say this because in the beginning of the game I noticed a few guys who made comments along the lines of "oh damn I didn't get to be mafia, forget this" and because I'm still bitter about the brats I had to work with as a camp councilor when I was trying to organize any sort of game and they wouldn't stop whining about why they couldn't be on such and such side. | ||
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On February 28 2008 11:46 to miss the mark wrote: What the fuck? Damn it, don't take this away from us!it's true, i was probably more counterproductive than productive, so in theory you just helped out the mafia. 0-7 baby. 1 and 6 ok? ONE AND FUCKING SIX!!!! | ||
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On February 28 2008 13:53 randombum wrote: Well you could use your detective skill, wait one day/night cycle, explain your findings to everyone then use the Veteran skill and hope that a paramedic saves you for insurance.Jack does seem powerful, but the fact that he can only use one skill at a time limits him. He will likely not be able to use all 6, and if he starts using his detective skill (perhaps the best) he will likely get murdered. Or better yet use detective, wait one day/night then vigilante the asshole mafioso, and if you get it wrong...well then you just stfu and hope noone finds out. Of course this will take a while, but that's probably what helps keep this class somewhat balanced. | ||
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On February 29 2008 11:02 bumatlarge wrote: but if a detective is even slightly clever he'll probably know way more than any townie Well a mafia man answered lol SIGN ME UP FOR NEXT GAME CHIU! I hope I'm a townie. If a t is clever enough, he can understand more than a detective. | ||
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On March 01 2008 01:09 Southlight wrote: Well it could just mean that more than one mafia went after him negating the paramedic protection. However that doesn't change the fact that the syringe clue seems to only point to him and that it's shown up so many times there's no doubt as to whether or not it's a clue.Except Alventine died. So the protection didn't seem to work, which would imply that you're not Para, aye? | ||
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On March 01 2008 01:49 Fen wrote: Yeah, times like these I wish we still had double lynchesHow long has it been since L2W announced that he was a paramedic? Hes managed to survive 2 nights even though the mafia know that he has a cruicial role? You would think that the mafia would go for a Blue before random greenies wouldnt you? *looks at everyone who voted to lynch Fakesteve* -.- | ||
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Edit: wait, but how the hell do you "accidentaly" pm Tracil? I mean you either had to type his name in the "To" box, or click the PM button next to his name. and considering that Chuiu's the first poster it'd seem to make more sense to just go to the first page and click the PM button there.... seriously...wtf? | ||
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On March 01 2008 04:10 Live2Win wrote: If a paramedic saved you you'd be notified.Recurring theme - I can understand how that can lead to me. I was hoping the suspicion would die down when TMTM died, but apparently he wasn't the one the clues were pointing to. As soon as I saw Day 5's clues, I knew people would mention me once again. Pretending to be Paramedic - Far too risky. Pretending to assume a position means you WILL be uncovered eventually. It puts a timeline on your life. If I was mafia, my goal would be to stay alive until the end. I wouldn't assume a role unless I knew I could live it out. Of course, both cases have no proof to back them up. - Not attacked by mafia - I'm actually baffled by this myself. I figured by night 2 I was going to be a gonner. My only guess is that another medic protected me. If that's the case, I'm screwed unless that person reveals himself. If no one protected me... then perhaps the mafia knew I would get lynched eventually, succesfully making the town waste a lynch on me. - Accident - This one should be easy to defend. What good do I get out from making up this "accident?" If I was mafia, pretending to be medic, why would I even send out a PM to anyone? PMing Chuiu would do no good, and sending a "fake PM" and then posting it would only make me look suspicious. What motive do I have to intentially bring the suspicion back to me? If I was mafia being a paramedic, all I have to do is say I'm protecting someone and pretend to do so. But to intentionally do things that would bring suspicion to myself? Does that make sense? Paramedic - You have the ability to watch one other player during night, which you must tell me about before the end of night (preferably before night even starts). You may choose not to use this ability also. When a player is watched he cannot die unless the number of people attacking him outnumbers the number of people watching him. In other words if two mafia attack a person being watched by one paramedic, the person will die. A clue will not be left behind, the town won't know who was saved, but I will let the Paramedic know if he saved the person or not and let the person know if he was saved or not. The fact that you apparently haven't looked at your role description more carefully either implies you are a mafia and are assuming the role of a medic...or you're just not a very good medic So that still casts doubt as to why the mafia hasn't killed you. There is the possibility that they want to keep you alive knowing we'll probably lynch you due to the syringe clue...but still. I'm gonna hold my vote for a while until I can gain a firm position on this, don't want to end up changing my vote 2-3 times like I always do. Especially since as I mentioned that drug testing/syringe clue might also point to vharox. | ||
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On February 28 2008 00:28 Alventenie wrote: ok so now four of the guys listed are mafia. So I'll try to look for any clues that may point to them. For now let's try to leave Live2Win and Tracil alone unless we fail to find any dirt on these guys.Tracil - 9 ZaplinG Southlight Fen Falcynn SiZ.FaNtAsY zdd Unforgiven_ve MyHeroNoob Edit; yes I realize that I'm kind of putting myself up for lynch by doing this, but since I know I'm not mafia I hope you guys won't end up finding clues where there aren't any (looking at you Vharox ). | ||
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Sometimes I tend to skip a couple of pages so in case you're like me, that should catch you up. | ||
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For future reference Chuiu updates the first post with links to all the day and night posts. | ||
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On March 02 2008 01:19 Unforgiven_ve wrote: Only reason people are voting for you is because of Alventinie's list that you're on. Once the people on the list are taken care of Tracil and L2W will get what's coming to them.lol, im just waiting for more people to vote, im not a fuckdisau mafia if you look for my previous post I'VE ALWAYS BEEN SUSPICIOUS ABOUT TRACIL AND L2W, especially Tracil, he's not doing any good whit his Ability...and i don't believe L2W is a medic. wtf is the relation between "STABBING A LOT" and "Unforgiven" wtf? thats just a fucking psycho...on the other hand the guy whit the needle and L2W quote's MAKES PERFECT SENSE! ps: my post was better and whit more details but pressed backspace and bye bye post...when i come back i will post again. ps2: again, im not a mafia! -_- Edit: god damnit zdd, you can't vote for Unforgiven...you're supposed to be mafia buddies T.T oh well, if unforgiven is a townie I'm coming after you next... | ||
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On March 02 2008 09:05 wo0py wrote: Yeah, it's all on the first post.i still dont get this.. is there like a noob intro or manual to read for the needy? | ||
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On March 02 2008 13:07 Fen wrote: Yeah, really. If we're not allowed to exchange log in information to see who's mafia, then looking at someone's profile at their house and telling everyone probably isn't much better...... You should be banned for this post. Your not even playing the game. EDIT: ok sorry you are playing. That being said, thats very unsportsmanlike Edit: but after reading shallow's post...nvm he could jsut be lieing. I really need some sleep. | ||
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On the offchance that I'm wrong and a few of us do get hit, well then as I said it'll at least make it easier to target the mafia, so our deaths won't totally be in vain. Just in case I'll also do another run through of all the clues and report any new things I might find in case this happens to be my last night. Edit: oh and nemY, I'm very suspicious of you now...you should be relieved you're not on the list | ||
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On March 01 2008 00:44 Chuiu wrote: He was about to leave the room when the door flew off its hinges and a man quickly sprinted in and tore the gun from his hand tossing it aside to the ground. Alventenie was overwhelmed by the sheer strength of this man as he held him down onto the chair next to his desk and a another man slowly walked in with a syringe in his hand... ulszz stabbed forward at him but another mafia rescued his friend by grabbing ulszz's arm and turning the knife against him. He overpowered ulszz as he drove the knife into his body dealing him a lethal blow. ..all he could think about was the chilling touch of the mafia's hand as he was drug outside. Another mafia stood there ready to end his life, his pale hand reached for a gun and shot CDRdude twice in the chest ending his life rather quickly. Their escape, though noisy... He saw a man prancing his way around the front of the house to him and he quickly turned around to flee but was no match in speed. ZBiR felt a violent barrage of stabs in his back and the pain and damage was simply too much for any man to live through. I pretty much chopped down last day's post to these little bits. The parts in bold relate to zdd's Grim Reaper photo in his profile (these clues have already been mentioned, but no harm in reiterating them. And the parts in italics relate to his signature. All you need in life is a strong will to succeed and unrelenting determination. If you meet these prerequisites, you can become anything you want with absolutely no luck, fortune or natural ability. As you can see, the man described in these excerpts is simply unrelenting. He's not very graceful, but he's so determined and bloodlusted that he overcomes any drawbacks that would be attributed to his brutishness/clumsyness/some other word I really mean to use but can't think of because I'm too damned sleepy. I figured I might die for whatever reason, so I thought I'd give this last bit to make sure you guys at least have a clearer target. Edit: the only thing that's saving him is that he voted for unforgiven, but as mentioned earlier mafia might've voted for him realizing that he's been a target for a while and was gonna get lynched eventually. | ||
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Zapling Southlight SiZ.Fantasy These 3 guys are on the list but didn't vote for unforgiven, and there are 3 people left on the list who are mafia...I'm sure I'm missing something like goldenkmboi did, but right now this looks pretty convincing considering there are 3 mafia left... Edit: ok yeah, this is probably just a big coincidence, but if we can get any solid clues against these guys, then we can make an easy case for who to lynch next. | ||
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On March 03 2008 02:02 Empyrean wrote: Finally, I suspect zdd, if only for the clue about the pale hand. He's been countering his accusations, though, and seems like a concerned member of the town. He's second on my watch list. bah in case noone read my post (which would be a shame since this was one of the few posts I acutally put any real effort in) I'll repost the important parts. From zdd's sig All you need in life is a strong will to succeed and unrelenting determination. If you meet these prerequisites, you can become anything you want with absolutely no luck, fortune or natural ability. In last day's post the killer/assistant killer of about 3 of the people seems to be described as a sort of clumsy brutish character who makes up for it with his sheer will and determination. He was about to leave the room when the door flew off its hinges and a man quickly sprinted in and tore the gun from his hand tossing it aside to the ground. Alventenie was overwhelmed by the sheer strength of this man... He overpowered ulszz as he drove the knife into his body dealing him a lethal blow. Their escape, though noisy... He saw a man prancing his way around the front of the house to him and he quickly turned around to flee but was no match in speed. Then there's the part that everyone already mentioned about zdd's photo in his profile of the grim reaper, however there's an extra clue that nobody seems to have mention afaik. ..all he could think about was the chilling touch of the mafia's hand as he was drug outside. Another mafia stood there ready to end his life, his pale hand reached for a gun and shot CDRdude twice in the chest ending his life rather quickly. zdd has already (sort of successfully) defended himself against the pale hand remark, but this "chilling touch of the mafia's hand" seems to obviously point to someone who's dead (does anyone have any sort of relation to zombies?) or the grim reaper. This next part could also be a coincidence, however if we can find any clues against these guys then we might be able to build a strong case to lynch them next. Zapling Southlight SiZ.Fantasy These 3 guys are on the list of 9 (now 7) but didn't vote for unforgiven, and there are 3 people left on the list who are mafia. As I said, could just be coincidence, but we might want to dig up any dirt we can find on these guys. Especially Southlight since he seems to turn up in every list we make...yet we can't find any clues on him. | ||
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Artofmagic, immediatly sensing danger, tried to rush past them but was met with his end quite quickly as he was sliced in two. "Dead people don't leave" Like I said, I could just be paranoid, however zdd's grim reaper is the only thing that seems to relate to this clue. The guy was sliced in half, and out of all the profiles I"ve looked through, the grim reapers scythe seems to be the only thing that could do that job. Also that final quote "dead people don't leave" could just be a cheesy one liner that some killers say to their victims in movies, however I feel it could be a clue relating to the grim reaper as he seems to be the only thing that could talk to the dead. Ok flame me or praise me, but I"m actually getting into this now...I just hope I don't die now that I'm finally getting my mind right. | ||
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On March 03 2008 04:45 nemY wrote: Watch your butt tonight, you're one of the good guys... I think. When you guys got serious clues against me lemme know lol I was only being half serious, hence the | ||
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On March 03 2008 09:36 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Actually I think that whichever vigilante sent the kill in first would make the kill, and the second vigilante's kill would be nullified.Man what if two vigilantes killed each other on the same night that would be sick | ||
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On March 03 2008 09:45 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Well maybe he sent his hit first, so basically he killed you, then you guys killed him.Well we hit So No Fek and he hit me in the same night and we both died. | ||
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On March 08 2008 08:29 Dapperdan wrote: awesome! my excitement has gotten back up.I'm going to make the post tonight. Neither chuiu or I has been able to do it already because I have homework (I had powerpoint presentation due today) and chuiu hath kidney stone. There's also the fact that I'm also playing SEN Mafia 6 (run by the dead veteran Mini Moose 2707) and running Maplantis Mafia 8 atm. Thanks for the patience guys. I'll be sure to make it epic. I already have one of the most epic deaths I've ever done prepared. | ||
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13 townies against 8 mafia...you don't have to even think about it to realize we're boned. I guess all we can do is try to bring down as many mafia as possible...or this is the time to just randomly lynch the people you want dead regardless of their affiliation. I'm gonna repost my message accusing zdd...but it doesn't really matter. As for how the mafia managed to get 2 vigilante kills...I'm going to say there was definitely a leak somewhere. Probably one of the people claiming to be medics weren't and the vigilantes flocked to them/him saying "save us! we're vigilante's!" On March 03 2008 03:17 Falcynn wrote: Edit: if this looks like it's too long could you guys at least skim it and give me some feedback please? I think I finally caught onto something but I'm not sure if I'm doing a goldenkmboi. bah in case noone read my post (which would be a shame since this was one of the few posts I acutally put any real effort in) I'll repost the important parts. In last day's post the killer/assistant killer of about 3 of the people seems to be described as a sort of clumsy brutish character who makes up for it with his sheer will and determination. Then there's the part that everyone already mentioned about zdd's photo in his profile of the grim reaper, however there's an extra clue that nobody seems to have mention afaik. zdd has already (sort of successfully) defended himself against the pale hand remark, but this "chilling touch of the mafia's hand" seems to obviously point to someone who's dead (does anyone have any sort of relation to zombies?) or the grim reaper. This next part could also be a coincidence, however if we can find any clues against these guys then we might be able to build a strong case to lynch them next. Zapling Southlight SiZ.Fantasy These 3 guys are on the list of 9 (now 7) but didn't vote for unforgiven, and there are 3 people left on the list who are mafia. As I said, could just be coincidence, but we might want to dig up any dirt we can find on these guys. Especially Southlight since he seems to turn up in every list we make...yet we can't find any clues on him. | ||
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On March 09 2008 01:42 HotZhot wrote: This fucking sucks. Yes I had information about the roles of clazziquai and randombum, i didn't know Emerald was a vigilante, otherwise i would have told him who to hit. This is sad. Anyway i hope that with our last vote we can get one mafia. Ill vote for zzd This isn't actually gonna be our last vote. However we have already lost. | ||
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"LULZ I'M MAFIA, AND HERE'S A LIST OF ALL THE OTHER MAFIA!!!!" We would still lose because there's no way for us to kill them fast enough. So at this point I'd say people should be allowed to vote however the hell they want. zdd is already 100% mafia imo and I just want to find out if L2W is as well since I want to figure out how the hell we lost those vigilantes. | ||
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I change my vote from L2W to zdd on the nearly impossible chance I'm wrong...it doesn't really matter I don't think Just so everyone knows, I did a very rough calculation and I believe we have like 3-4 days before the mafia numbers equal ours and we officially lose. So after zdd I plan to try to get a lynch going for L2W, then Vharox, then either Empyrean or nemY. | ||
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On March 09 2008 04:20 JeeJee wrote: for the next large mafia game i suggest: since mafia #s scale with number of players in the game and since mafia killing power scales with number of players in the game why doesn't town lynching power scale with number of players in the game? think longterm, 280 people 55 mafia, 28 mafia kills daily, but one lynch T_T? True, in a way I guess this is sort of offset by vigilantes and double lynches. However this is assuming that the townies use these powers wisely, and if we get way more people next game I don't think this is gonna be enough. | ||
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On March 11 2008 11:28 ZaplinG wrote: hell I'd even take the loss and start a new game. If this next person we lynch turns out to be townie or the medics don't save anyone tonight we pretty much lose anyways.you guys just want to call it a tie and start the new game? | ||
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On March 11 2008 13:09 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: but if gg is called now we'll never beat the VOD thread If L2W turns out to be innocent, I suggest GG to be called. I'm itching to play. seriously though, I think you're right. If L2W is innocent then the only way for us to win is if the medics start making some miraculous saves for the next few days. | ||
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I say we wait 'til day and see if the medics make their miraculous saves. If not then call gg. Edit: ok, yes I realize I was one of the people agreeing L2W should be lynched, but he should've been lynched AFTER everyone on the list of 9 was taken care of. If we would've waited we might've been able to find something proving his innocence. | ||
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I FUCKING TRICKED ALL OF YOU!!!! HOW THE FUCK COULD YOU GUYS NOT REALIZE I WAS MAFIA!!!! I played my cards right putting out good clues when it was obvious a bandwagon was starting against a towny, and backing off not saying anything when bandwagons were starting against mafia, it was perfect! + Show Spoiler + rofl, j/k + Show Spoiler + I just wrote all that for the LULZ + Show Spoiler + I'm really a + Show Spoiler + veteran(aka the most useless special role in this game ) + Show Spoiler + I realize that if the game continues I'm screwed, but w/e the LULZ was worth it | ||
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On March 11 2008 13:45 nemY wrote: You know nothing... fool! edit: but after Day 6, I knew you'd suspect me... pretty hard for everyone I pmed not to... lol lol you were always somewhere around the middle of my list, but after that PM you pretty much jumped to the top right under zdd. | ||
Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
And I'd also like to thank Chuiu and Dapperdan as well for introducing us to such an epic game. Cheers guys | ||
Falcynn
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On March 13 2008 05:24 Chuiu wrote: What? I was targetted by the mafia? I thought I was supposed to get a PM or something notifying me that I was saved/lost a night life.He targeted only one person if I recall correctly, but since the mafia was targeting the same person that night his hit was nullified. Actions for Night 3: Medic dinmsab -> Live2Win Live2Win -> Alventenie Murderer EmeraldSparks -> JeeJee (null) randombum -> chicken` (elder) 1.- Mini Moose 2707 (vet - dead) 2.- Amber[LighT] 3.- aepplet 4.- wurm 5.- JeeJee 6.- Falcynn (vet) | ||
Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On March 13 2008 05:56 randombum wrote: lol same. Before this game I had like 200~ posts, now I'm a dragoon This game introduced so many new people to start posting on team liquid. If for nothing else it has help make the community large (a good thing). Actually about a good 20% of my posts are in this thread. | ||
Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On March 13 2008 06:10 nemY wrote: lol sorry about that, but you gotta admit...that did seem pretty suspicious after Day 5 and than Day 6 came and about half of them died and flipped Blue and Green and i loled and Falcynn turned his suspicions to me. | ||
Falcynn
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On March 13 2008 07:00 ZaplinG wrote: ROFL that's the whole reason I allied myself to you, because I thought you were mafia! Falcynn, I knew you were mafia, but I figured if I allied myself to you then I wouldnt be targeted by the mafia and I could pretty much say whatever I wanted :O Aha! caught you before your ninja edit! | ||
Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On March 13 2008 09:05 Amber[LighT] wrote: True, I think next game town will do a lot better since we should have a better idea of how to interpret clues and detect mafia behavior (and know not to go on a witch hunt of accusing everybody). All mafia had to do this round was just sit back and watch us kill ourselves from the inside out so that was an obvious advantage.Honestly the inactivity situation was a small problem, but even with the amount of people who decided not to play wouldn't have made it an auto-lose. The problem was no one trusted anyone and we couldn't make decisions as a town. The second someone said something the other person would come back with some part of a clue that might have 1% relevance. If you're a townie you should remain calm and try to work on something without outting the person that outted you. It was annoying to see that every single round and we got so frazzled we voted for the person who "wasn't the nicest" (Hence why we fucking lynched our mayor WTF was that?!) | ||
Falcynn
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