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One question, what, exactly is 'night'? There are Teamliquidians from around the world, which means that it's always night for someone. Also, if someone important doesn't log in, or contribute for whatever reason, what happens then?
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==edit== One question, what, exactly is 'night'? There are Teamliquidians from around the world, which means that it's always night for someone. Also, if someone important doesn't log in, or contribute for whatever reason, what happens then? | ||
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I am voting for Tracil for mayor. (Yes, this means that the Mani for Mayor comment was a joke) | ||
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On February 11 2008 16:55 Tracil wrote: Were we capable of voting for lynch today I would be voting for you already. The kind of standoffishness you're exhibiting is, simply put, bad for town; you should have reasons for your actions and should always elaborate on them. Discussion is, basically, the only real way for us to get anywhere. Please tell me why you think what I'm saying is wrong. If you don't think it's wrong... why are you doing what you are doing? Why would you vote for SoMuchBetter on the basis of a paint file alone? I'm pretty sure he's voting for SMB on the basis of either not liking you, or being a not-very-sneaky mafia. Although, I have to admit that the MS paint sorely tempted me | ||
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On February 11 2008 17:00 SoMuchBetter wrote: the paint file shows how trustworthy i am! You have a monocle, and a purple jacket. Clearly, you are an untrustworthy Dom, trying to imitatet he trustworthy Mayor of Imagination Land (as in the South Park episode). | ||
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Another stepped up to Chuiu with a knife in his hand and said "I'll take care of this, he's been a thorn in my side since the day I got here". Sound familiar to anyone who's been here longer than me? | ||
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That could also mean that it's coming up on Valentine's Day, which it is. Just 3 more days, so it could be innocuous. Or, it could mean a marriage. Anybody on the list engaged? | ||
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On February 11 2008 17:45 betaben wrote: "That was low, even for you" said another mafia. "Who cares where I stab him, all is fair" NotSorry Oh man, I was looking for names that had to do with height ("that was low"). I was thinking it might be Southlight, but that would have been a strech, at best. Unrelated, I haven't found any flamewars, or much of anything related to this: Another stepped up to Chuiu with a knife in his hand and said "I'll take care of this, he's been a thorn in my side since the day I got here". Anybody else come up with something here? | ||
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On February 12 2008 02:47 Scooter wrote: I'm voting for whoever Live2Win votes for. However, using L2W's same analytical ideas, you can't trust him either. What he's saying is just common sense, which garners trust, but doesn't unduly hurt the mafia. The only solution is to think for yourself, and come up with your own vote. I voted for Tracil, because I thought he was not a mafioso. However, it recently occurred to me that Tracil has mentioned some good ideas, but he hasn't done any kind of detective work, or named any names. This could mean that he's either afraid of leading us in the right direction, or that he has better things to do, each equally plausible. | ||
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On February 12 2008 03:32 str wrote: didnt notice it on the thread so ill ask: can i non-player like me discuss as well since I MISSED the start  ( damn dota....anyways if no then at least sign me up for the next one plsand btw better not have more than 3 candidates for major since as the mafia know themselves theyll all vote for their scum candidate and since some random twnies will as well he might end up winning and from what i get from first impressions thats not very nice lol i wonder if tracil is too good to be truth. hes either a very very loyal townie or a very very double-faced backstabbing scum...only time will tell but one thing is for sure - this game rocks and ima follow it I think it would be better if you did not. If only the players play, then we can read treachery in honest accusations, suspect everyone, and all that fun. However, if you start posting your thoughts, we have no idea what your motive is, and we also can't kill you to silence you. I'm not the Mafia expert though, ask Chuiu. | ||
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On February 12 2008 06:05 demonic_phate wrote: can we vote to lynch the mayor? I would also like to know the answer to this.... However, if the mayor is popular enough to get elected, it's doubtful that he'll be lynched. | ||
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Of course, now I might assassinated tonight | ||
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On February 12 2008 08:49 Dr.Dragoon wrote: DON'T RISK IT, LYNCH SHALLOW TOO! If the word "doctor" ever makes it to the story, I am soooo screwed. Aha! He has "Dr." in his name, clearly, he's a paramedic! =P | ||
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On February 12 2008 11:06 dancefayedance!~ wrote: tracil after reading your posts i am seriously considering revoking my vote. Out of curiosity, what in his posts makes you want to revoke your vote? | ||
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On February 12 2008 11:15 Dr.Dragoon wrote: I'm not suspicious Last edit: 2008-02-12 11:15:49 If we lynch him, it proves the theory of natural selection. | ||
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On February 12 2008 11:20 dancefayedance!~ wrote: what's wrong with editing posts? besides it potentially being used as a tool of the mafia to create confusion. mafia members can gang up on people who edited their post. i dont think a simple edit should really justify people's suspicion. but be careful of people who say "omg X edited his post, he must be a mafia member!!". It shows that you have something to hide. Both the people with special abilities, (veterans, elders, etc) and the mafioso have something to hide. The townies want to get rid of the mafioso, and one of the best ways to do this, is look for those who have something to hide. Of course, you can also use an edit to clarify your point, and not hide anything at all. The only problem with that, is that you can also clarify your point with another post, and avoid any suspicion. Looking at in this manner, the suspicion of edited posts is a system with positive feedback. However, since we've already started looking at edited posts with suspicion, the suspicion will only increase with time, there's nothing any of us can do about that. | ||
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On February 12 2008 11:28 Falcynn wrote: Have any of the detectives managed to uncover anything? I realize that if someone were detective they wouldn't just come out and claim they are and post the information they've learned, but it seems like noone really has a firm stance on any clue and noones trying to persuade anyone about anything (despite people posting some seemingly good leads). Which leads me to believe the detectives haven't gathered anything... Unless I misunderstood the whole day/night cycle thing and they're waiting for a better time. Some people have claimed that they have, but they are sensibly waiting until the lynching to post anything. Of course, if they were most sensible, they wouldn't have even posted that they had an idea in the first place, it only makes them a target. We'll probably see some good detective work (and some lunatic conspiracy theories, my personal specialty  ) leading up to the first lynching. | ||
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On February 12 2008 11:28 dancefayedance!~ wrote: I did think that of course and it is plausible. i was only worried that he is trying to be mayor so he has more reason to defend his "good" name if he is a mafia member. i wasnt suspicious at first really, however, i tried to watch his posts and see how much of an effort he takes in responding to all of them that say he is the mafia. we all know dr.dragoon is the first one to get lynched, and if tracil isn't a mafia member he knows that the second day clues won't lead to him, so why be so persistent in defending your character especially when you already have majority of the votes for mayor? but if he is a mafia member he would take more time clearing up his name especially this early on. not only does it soldifiy his election as mayor but we'll all assume he isn't a mafioso in the very beginning, making this game his. i'm only saying this : proceed with caution. One comment on the part that I bolded: it depends on what majority you are looking at. The majority of players haven't yet voted. | ||
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On February 12 2008 11:35 dancefayedance!~ wrote: well yes but the editing only occurs if the mafioso are idiots and type something that they shouldn't have. for the most part majority of the people that are editing haven't been the ones ive suspected as mafia members. it's the people who are telling us we can't edit. it gives the illusion that people against editing or saying "x edited his post, mafia!!!" that they themselves dont think editing is fair or a good way to find mafia members. i think by making editing into positive feedback ( as in people who edit have something to hide, mafia members have something to hide, therefore they must be mafia members ) mafia members will be able to convince people to lynch innocent townies . You bring up a good point, but I still can't help but wonder what was in the original version of posts, and why they were edited. | ||
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On February 12 2008 11:48 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: This thread should go in the Hall of Fame after it's wrapped up :p What should it be listed under? Paranoid lunacy? ...this is such an awesome game | ||
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On February 12 2008 11:57 dancefayedance!~ wrote: It went way over CDRdude's head:/ I'm vertically challenged, that's all | ||
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On February 12 2008 12:02 Alethios wrote: No, it's not. RP advocates teaching creationism in schools. Bastard. You are soooo dead mate. Sorry to say it. Ooooo... a link to the short clue thing? I posted that after the story that contained the clues. It was a nod to dragoon saying that it went over my head. Live2Win EDIT: I'm trying to fix your quotes. | ||
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On February 12 2008 12:09 Alethios wrote: Wow... can't edit. Funny that I was just advocating that if you had read it, you wouldn't have made that mistake... then you tell us that you hadn't read it when you posted the message... interesting.... You misunderstand me (or I'm missing your point, one of the two). What I'm saying, is that unless Chuiu can predict the future, he could not have meant that specific remark of mine to be a clue, because the clue about "that's low, even for you" was posted before my comment about height. | ||
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On February 12 2008 12:18 SoMuchBetter wrote: why is everyone jumping all over dr.dragoon when that screenshot/pm (if it happened looked) like an obvious joke. the mafia know who each other are, so why would he pm someone like that? I think that the argument lies in the fact that he seems pretty dumb, and the town would be better off without him, even if he isn't mafioso. Also, I still think you're a mafioso. Too many people are popping up and voting for you, without any other comments, which says (to me, at least) that the other mafia, which know who you are, are voting you in as a mafia candidate for mayor. | ||
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Yes, but other people think it too: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251¤tpage=18#344 http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251¤tpage=18#354 http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251¤tpage=20#387 | ||
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On February 12 2008 12:40 Dr.Dragoon wrote: There's the possibility of both of us lying too. I doubt shallow is mafia anyways, he would be more inclined to lay low, rather than try to start drama that would put him at risk. The REAL situation is basically just a big joke by shallow, which everyone took to be true. Speaking of shallow lying low, isn't that exactly what he's doing now? I haven't seen him post much in the past couple of hours. | ||
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On February 12 2008 12:57 Zelniq wrote: There's way too much spam and useless posts in this thread. The last page of this thread this morning was page 9, and it's already on 27. I know I'm not the only one who doesn't wanna go through that many posts in that short of a time. It's turning many of us off this game.. it'd be nice if there were some system in place that regulated posts or something. This could be split up into several threads, perhaps one thread per day? Or, maybe one thread for direct votes (I'm sure it would make Chuiu's, and Dapperdan's job easier) and another for general theorizing about clues, other people's posts, stuff like that.. | ||
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On February 12 2008 14:07 Dr.Dragoon wrote: I think the people thinking that I'm actually mafia are quite silly. WHY WOULD I MAKE SUCH A STUPID PM. The PM doesn't even follow the chain of events either. Shallow admits that we had a PM convo, and he sent me a PM FIRST. If I am stupid enough to actually make that PM, why wouldn't I just use the reply function? It's fake. The rule of the mob. Unjust, or otherwise, fear it's retribution, for it shall be swift and merciless. | ||
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On February 12 2008 14:09 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: people are voting me because i'm ten times the mayor you are only the fools are voting against me You know, that's actually mathematically true. Neither of you are mayor yet, so your mayor status is both 0. 10*(FakeSteve's zero)= zero = (Tracil's zero) | ||
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On February 13 2008 02:30 Caller wrote: dont forget to vote against the mafia tyrrany that is somuchbetter and tyracil... vote for fakesteve If you believe that they are both mafia, just voting for fakesteve isn't enough. That would mean that there is a townie mayor and a mafia pardoner, not good for the town. You need to have two canidates for your faction if you want a good start. Also, you spelled Tracil's name wrong. PS, so the guy that claimed he was a mafia is telling us to vote for Fakesteve? Suspicious. | ||
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Oh, wow, I totally did. I feel stupid now (in my defense, it was at an ungodly early hour when I said that, like 9:00 AM) | ||
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On February 13 2008 12:20 Tracil wrote: For the record, if that is the reason Steve killed Alethios, it was fucking stupid. I await the inevitable explanation and justification of his choice. What's inevitable is that FakeSteve won't explain or rationalize, clearly he just picked him to lynch out of shortsighted revenge, not caring whether or not he was a townie. | ||
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On February 13 2008 12:49 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: dictatorshipness ftw I trust tracil more now. However i have a question. If mayor turns to be mafia, is there a way townies lynch him? or are we fucked I'm pretty sure that the townies can lynch the mayor, but can you seriously see people voting to lynch fakesteve? | ||
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How often does this game degenerate to McCarthyism? For those of you who don't know what McCarthyism is, senator McCarthy was a US senator in the 50's who went around accusing people of being communists to discredit them, and gain personal influence. | ||
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I would say lynch them, but I guess we have other priorities (like Chuiu's roommate) | ||
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On February 14 2008 09:01 JeeJee wrote: oh crap i have shown myself as a cunning member of the mafia! or maybe a detective! >_< p.s. the OP still doesn't clarify my earlier question: can paramedics watch themselves? it says they can watch a player, not watch "other" player, this is a pretty important distinction to make i believe I doubt it. It wouldn't really make much sense if they could. | ||
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Patience? How long does that take? (POORLY DISGUISED CONTINUATION OF A BUMP!!) | ||
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==edit== Okay, because the bandwagon says so, I vote Dr.Dragoon to by lynched. I honestly aren't convinced about him either way, but there's a better chance for him than with some random pubbie. | ||
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Quoted again for truth. Since dragoon wasn't mafia, surely his accuser is. If his accuser isn't, then its worth getting rid of a townie who manufactures false evidence against other townie's anyway. | ||
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He campaigned hard for mayor, but as soon as he didn't win, he just vanished. Is he laying low because he's a mafioso, and he doesn't want to draw attention to himself? I think so. | ||
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On February 20 2008 10:57 goldenkrnboi wrote: i gave up starcraft for lent Okay, we might have to lynch him just for that. | ||
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On February 21 2008 20:30 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: if you hate fucking retards vote to lynch tracil and we can get on with the game without his overbearing, annoying presence FakeSteve, you have an overbearing, annoying presence. Even if Tracil is a mafia, at least we can put up with him because he doesn't swear at us, accuse us without reason, and insult us.  (in the game) and leave us alone. | ||
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On February 22 2008 08:07 ZaplinG wrote: I also find it odd that everyone decided to withdraw their previous votes and hit fakesteve all around the same time. Almost like it was planned... I withdraw my vote for goldenkrnboi and change it to Tracil For me personally, with enough others we can be reasonably sure that he won't ban the lot of us. | ||
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On February 22 2008 08:12 ZaplinG wrote: And this site has more integrity than to ban someone because you targeted a mod in a forum game. Stop listing bs excuses for voting for FS that have no connection with the game. Oh? Go browse through the automated ban list. | ||
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Anyway, here's to hoping for a high voter turnout! | ||
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On February 22 2008 14:35 ulszz wrote: I'm quoting this post I made because I really think it has been overlooked. People who accused shallow and people who were accused by shallow have a high chance of not being mafioso. And there you see NotSorry accusing shallow and being accused by him. So really he is probably not mafioso. An excellent post. At least for me, you are right, I overlooked that originally. As for his agreeing with the GeneralStan vote, I think it likely that he just wants fair play, but I am probably biased because I'm quite irritated by how FS has been posting; no help, all smugness and insults. | ||
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On February 23 2008 13:10 NotSorry wrote: Can't we do something a little more American? Like tie them to the back of a truck and race around town or something? That's kind of got an ugly history behind it How about we 4-pool them to death? | ||
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On February 23 2008 13:19 SoMuchBetter wrote: youre just naive to keep following him on the basis of his experience or whatever instead of thinking about things yourself. his running wild with you guys. funny that i didn't want to bring this stuff up on accord of being mafia'd at night, and as a result i am seen as lurking and am going to be lynched by the town Whether or not Tracil is mafia, I have to agree with him on one thing: discussion is a great way to ferret out mafia. If you had accused people, and then got assassinated for it, we would have been able to jump to some conclusions about the people you accused. I don't think lurking is a very good winning strategy (maybe for personal survival, but it's nice to have a team win too) | ||
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On February 23 2008 13:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: my votes now go to Romance_us and CDRdude i'm fairly certain one of them is mafia and about 45% sure on the other If you don't mind me asking, which one am I? | ||
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On February 23 2008 15:06 ZaplinG wrote: why didn't you vote for notsorry, steve? ^^ would have saved yourself It looks like he kind of did: On February 23 2008 14:34 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: my votes stand unless i'm gonna get fucked then i'll vote for notsorry to push his total over mine so i dont die Does this work? Of course, if Chuiu misses it before night, then it doesn't matter anyway :-? | ||
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What everyone keeps forgetting is that all the mafia has to do is outnumber the voting citizens. Therefore, since we have like 20 inactives, well be pretty screwed in 3 or 4 days. Even worse, most likely at least a portion of the mafia isn't posting. Because of that, we will have a very hard time separating them from inactives, especially given our nomstellar track record for interpretation of clues. I'm pretty discouraged at this point. | ||
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On February 24 2008 08:29 Caller wrote: Guys im pretty sure its GG consider it: we have until day 6 to kill at least two mafiaso. thats... three days we have three lynches therefore i doubt the mafia would have 0 candidates for mayor-at least one had to be mayor the only major candidate left is...Tracil. therefore Tracil is likely mafiaso he has 4 pardons for 3 lynches therefore were buttfucked and we cant kill him cuz 3 bodyguards are still alive so unless our vigilantes killed all our bodyguards and tracil were boned PLEASE READ THE ORIGINAL POST AAAAARRRGGG!!!!!!!! So many STUPID questions and comments could be avoided by this. If we want, we can lynch Tracil, because you don't get bodyguard protection from lynches, and you can't pardon yourself. | ||
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On February 25 2008 12:59 fusionsdf wrote: day and night should come faster though Not necessarily, Chuiu and Dapperdan have to come up with clues, wait for people to vote, and do whatever it is they do in real life (which isn't as important as mafia, but they'll probably do it anyway). Maybe if the mafia only killed inactives, and we only lynched inactives, we'd get a quicker game, but a lot depends on Chuiu, and making clues that aren't too hard and aren't too easy must be hard. (If you're reading this, make clues easier. We suck.) | ||
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On February 25 2008 18:01 dinmsab wrote: The situation right now is getting desperate, and i believe that desperate situation calls for desperate action. Honestly speaking, this just isnt looking good for the townies.. if things carry on like this we ARE going to lose. We outnumber the mafia by 3:1, but the diference in numbers do not mean anything considering how the mafia are organized, while we are not. Im proposing something radical.. I think it IS possible for the townies to actually be organized, not all of us.. but only a small number that matters the most in the game. This small group will only receive orders by a single person who we are sure is a townie, this single person will be the "head" of the group, only he knows the members of the group and is responsible to coordinate and organize each action of its members. So you might be asking, who are the members? how are we going to make sure they are not mafia? Well, this is where this list plays a role. 2 of 3 Vigilante alive. 1 of 2 Detective alive. 4 of 4 Paramedic alive. 2 of 4 Elder alive. 3 of 4 Veteran alive. (i removed pardoner and bodyguards considering they COULD be mafia, correct me if im wrong) Yes, this list the key. These are the only people who are going to make a difference in this game for the townies. Im suggesting that these people will submit their names and roles to the appointed "head". From there this leader will be able to systematically organize and use any information and abilities gained from of its members. So some of you might ask, what if there's undercover mafia claiming any one of these roles? Well, lets say that 5 people claim to be paramedics, we know that there are only 4 paramedics out there , that means that 1 of them is a fake a.k.a mafia. Keep in mind, only the "head" knows all the information, no information is passed among members of the group.. effectively rendering any infiltration useless. Keep in mind, in this scenario the head will know there is a mafia within the paramedic group.. thus is his responsibility to investigate and figure out who is the mafia. Obviously it isnt very smart for the mafia to go undercover in this group since it will only get their names shortlisted. In order to select the "head", i believe it is wise to actually just to random on this.. the chances are still 1/3 that the person randomly selected is a townie, if not.. then we are screwed.. or we could just use a person that we all trust is a townie, which is definitely not wise since at this point, anyone could be mafia. I dont see any other way for the townies to make it out of this... feedback needed ASAP. We need to act fast before the next night comes around. I mean no offense, but that's a really stupid idea. Sure, it sounds good on the surface, but we have no way of reliably picking a head. You claim that it's possibile via random selection, but I disagree. You forget all of the inactives, and also, what if people are just plain lazy and don't want to deal with it? If you pick a mafia head, then town has no chance of winning, because they get a list of every special role dumb enough to admit to it. That's not even taking into account people who lie about having special positions, either because they are mafia, or because they don't want to die. Last, since you are apparently in the game, why haven't you read the game description in the original post? It's good form to konw what you're talking about. Bodyguards can't be mafia. Oh, and when you say what the chance that the person randomly selected is a townie, the chance is wrong. | ||
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Mayoral Election: Tracil --- 13 votes --- Alive CDRdude ZBiR goldenkrnboi betaben --Dead ulszz demonic_phate Fishball --Dead Yogurt --Dead Romance_us Empyrean dancefayedance!~ Hittegods --Dead Alethios --Dead SoMuchBetter --- 10 votes--- Dead mahnini --Dead chicken` --Dead MyHeroNoob Live2Win Vharox Folca RtS)Night[Mare --Dead ZaplinG clazziquai Eti307 FakeSteve --- 14 votes--- Dead Puosu --Dead Caller KF91 SiZ.FaNtAsY wurm --Dead randombum Hypnosis Wizard --Dead NotSorry HotZhot imDerek ShaLLoW[baY] ---Dead Dr.Dragoon ---Dead mahnini --- 1 vote --- Dead ieatkids5 infinity21 --- 1 vote --- Alive So no fek --Dead betaben --- 1 vote --- Dead Southlight Mini Moose 2707 --- 2 votes --- Dead Falcynn JeeJee --Dead Please tell me if I missed something (Other than GeneralStan, because he sucks) Right now, we only have 1 known mafioso who we can infer from. Unfortunately, he voted for a known townie, the late FakeSteve. This could mean a few things; he didn't realize that mafia could be mayor, there were no mafia candidates, or he voted for FS in spite of a mafia candidate. Of these, I think the last two are the most likely. Why would this be? If the last one is the case, either Tracil, or infinity21 must be mafia. If infinity21 was mafia, it would provide a sensible explanation for why he didn't vote for him--it would be basically throwing his vote away. On the other hand, you have Tracil. If Tracil is mafia, then why didn't Shallow vote for him? The vote was close too, perhaps he could have swung the election. But given Shallow's conduct, I don't think this is impossible either. Looking at his posts, with hindsight, it seems to me like he's just out to have fun, which I presume he succeeded at when Dr.Dragoon got lynched by his word. Then, we have the possibility that everyone wishes was true--that no mafia ran in the election. From a practical standpoint, this would easily demonstrate why Shallow didn't vote for the known mafia. I don't know if this is true, but with the way this lynching election is going we're likely to find out. Okay, next up we had the Day #2 Lynchings: Dr.Dragoon --Dead - 28 Live2Win Eti307 clazziquai Wizard --Dead Alventenie Vharox goldenkrnboi zdd Fen Tracil HotZhot Aepplet --Dead Southlight Puosu --Dead Hittegods --Dead demonic_phate Romance_us RtS)Night[Mare --Dead KF91 Amber[LighT] --Dead Fishball --Dead Elder CDRdude Falcynn imDerek SoMuchBetter --Dead So no fek --Dead Fen RtS)Night[Mare --Dead - 20 chicken` --Dead ZBiR wurm --Dead Yogurt --Dead FakeSteve[TPR] --Dead *4 Falcynn Caller Elder Elder JeeJee --Dead Alventenie imDerek CDRdude ShaLLoW[baY] --Dead Wizard --Dead SoMuchBetter Puosu --Dead Falcynn - 2 Fishball --Dead ShaLLoW[baY] --Dead HotZhot JeeJee --Dead NotSorry - 7 wurm --Dead ulszz Southlight So no fek --Dead goldenkrnboi RtS)Night[Mare --Dead Fen Again, we only have one mafia to base this off of, so we have to make this count. Shallow voted for two people, (it was a double lynch day), one of which we now know to be innocent, one of which is still alive. Judging by this, I would say that when it comes down to it, Shallow votes for the betterment of the mafioso's goals. Taking that assessment as true, or at least somewhat likely, we can assume that Falcynn is innocent. As for if this applies to Tracil, I'm hesitant to say anything, but I have a hard time seeing Tracil as mafia. And then the Day #3 Lynchings: Live2Win - 3 Folca JeeJee --Dead clazziquai SoMuchBetter - 19 HotZhot ieatkids5 Falcynn ulszz Scooter Thirdeye1017 CDRdude Aepplet --Dead ZBiR ZaplinG chicken` --Dead dinmsab Romance_us Amber[LighT] --Dead JeeJee --Dead Tracil infinity21 EmeraldSparks Vharox Caller - 2 Elder NotSorry - 9 goldenkrnboi nemY Falcynn Amber[LighT] --Dead Unforgiven_ve Tracil Caller ZaplinG infinity21 Tracil - 8 imDerek wurm --Dead Scooter Thirdeye1017 dancefayedance!~ Caller EmeraldSparks Eti307 Mini Moose 2707 --Dead ulszz Amber[LighT] --Dead Alventenie FakeSteve[TPR] - 11 chicken` --Dead Romance_us Aepplet --Dead Live2Win ZBiR Southlight CDRdude demonic_phate Elder dancefayedance!~ dinmsab Unforgiven_ve Elder nemY wurm --Dead For better or for worse, this day was without ShaLLoW[baY]. As such, we have a lot less to overanalyze, and we have to go on guesses alone. Here, I would like to bring up an interesting quote, just to make sure it isn't overlooked: On February 25 2008 16:30 Alventenie wrote: Ok, time for a long post, i will not interpret the clues, but rather talk about the previous day, and hopefully begin to understand this, and give us at least a fighting chance. First off, I am the detective, and i am not inactive, so i will recap what i have done so far during the first 3 day/night cycles to show you how hard this actually is to be any use as a detective. Night 1, i asked if i could see how many mafia voted for a mayor candidate, but was told i could not find that answer, so i used one of the clues of a strangely dressed man/bowing clue to see if it related to artofmagic, and got answered a no. Now remember, each clue can point to various people, so im pretty much guessing as who i would believe fit that role, since they're 71 people day/night 1, that means i have to see if a clue fits for all 71 people, which, when given up to 13 clues, is alot of clues. Day/night 2, i asked if someone tossing in there sleep was related to RtS)Night[Mare, but i didnt wait for chuiu to respond before posting the clue, and thus got him lynched for no reason. Day/night 3, This is where it gets interesting, instead of asking a clue as i had no idea who to link to clues, i decided to see how many mafia lynched FakeSteve. Here is the list of people who voted for FS: FakeSteve[TPR] - 11 chicken` Romance_us Aepplet Live2Win ZBiR Southlight CDRdude demonic_phate Elder dancefayedance!~ dinmsab Out of all these people, ONE, yes ONE, was mafia. That means 10 townies lynched our mayor, and since this night happened: Chicken`, Aeppelet both died, and are townies. but that means we know more people who are townies to not let them become lynch victims, and one of those are mafia, although im willing to spare 1 mafia to keep 8 townies alive for now. If he is telling the truth, that also provides us with a few clues as to the mafia's identity. Basically, the best bit of information in there (if true) is that there is 1 mafioso in the group of people who voted for FakeSteve. Assuming that all this is true, of the names up there, only one jumps out at me as connected with the clues: Romance_us. A sweet floral scent entered his nostrils before JeeJee's life was ended by a gunshot to the head. I vote Romance_us to be lynched. Romance_us: --voted Tracil for mayor --voted Dr.Dragoon to be lynched --voted SoMuchBetter to be lynched --voted FakeSteve to by lynched While this doesn't say anything for certain (hell, I voted for all those people too), it is another hint that Romance_us might be a mafioso. | ||
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On February 26 2008 11:56 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: And keep up the hilarious action guys, I'm reading every page... O_O You're crazier than I am O.o | ||
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I am changing my vote away from Romance_us to to miss the mark ==edit== to miss the mark just posted above me, so he is clearly not inactive. Then why hasn't he voted at all? | ||
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On February 27 2008 12:50 ulszz wrote: No CDRDude, just this post I quoted. I think there is a strong possibility that Scooter is mafioso and that is why I suggested to lynch him next, no relation to to Miss the mark. That's a very good point. Hopefully tomorrow I'll have time to see if any clues implicate him. Give me six lines written by the most honorable of men, and I will find an excuse in them to hang him - Cardinal Richelieu I'll try to avoid looking too far into it though, I want to be fair, so I have the best chance of finding mafia. | ||
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On February 27 2008 13:42 NotSorry wrote: I've said this about miss the mark countless time in the last 100 or so pages and no one even blinked, yet now someone else posts and everyone has a fucking revelation? I guess your earlier posts didn't make much of an impact, but mine did for some reason. I don't know why that would be, but if you think he's mafia, vote for him! | ||
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Even in spite of the overwhelming evidence in favor of to miss the mark, they ignore it, and try to appear loyal townies. On February 27 2008 12:08 CDRdude wrote: Oh! I get it now! What Tracil is saying is that to miss the mark is the mafia that keeps missing the mark with his poisonous solutions. It all makes sense now, how couldn't I have seen it earlier? It seems that there is no record of him voting at all though, so we can't base anything off of what he said. Also because of that, we don't know if he's inactive. But now that I think about it, that clue HAS to point towards to miss the mark I am changing my vote away from Romance_us to to miss the mark ==edit== to miss the mark just posted above me, so he is clearly not inactive. Then why hasn't he voted at all? Quoted so that more people can see it, and see the reasoning behind lynching to miss the mark. NotSorry and nemY: we know your game now. Don't think you can fool us any longer. | ||
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On February 28 2008 15:47 Fen wrote: Hey Chuii, can you please ban everyone who signed up and didnt play in this game from playing in the next game. Because about half the townies left are not even playing and thats just not cool. Also, could a system be implemented where every player must post at least once during each day/night cycle. If they dont, they get booted from the game (they flee town or something), and their role (if they have one) gets passed onto someone else. Because if the detectives end up being afkers, then its totally going to screw the townies over. YES, WE NEED THIS. Caps lock aside, this will really help the game. I get frustrated when I realize that the mafia already outnumber us, simply because of the inactive townies. I wonder if a mod playing the game could be convinced to impose a harsher penalty on inactives, that would certainly liven things up. | ||
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On February 29 2008 13:48 NotSorry wrote: I won't die, why waste a mob kill when town is just going to lynch me tomorrow anyways ^ ^ Well, we will see what new clues we have. However, you are certainly suspicious, and you've almost been lynched twice now. | ||
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On March 04 2008 05:52 Chuiu wrote: Day post will be delayed. Reason. =( That's no fun, I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe you can make Dapperdan do all the writing work (and you thought we'd forgotten about you) | ||
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On March 05 2008 09:20 Chuiu wrote:Also, oxycodone doesn't do shit to me for some reason. That's because Live2Win isn't actually giving you oxycodone, he's faking it because he's a mafioso :-) | ||
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On March 06 2008 16:02 goldenkrnboi wrote: I'm mafia Fixed. | ||
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On March 08 2008 08:29 Dapperdan wrote: I'm going to make the post tonight. Neither chuiu or I has been able to do it already because I have homework (I had powerpoint presentation due today) and chuiu hath kidney stone. There's also the fact that I'm also playing SEN Mafia 6 (run by the dead veteran Mini Moose 2707) and running Maplantis Mafia 8 atm. Thanks for the patience guys. I'll be sure to make it epic. I already have one of the most epic deaths I've ever done prepared. In order for it to be an epic death, it has to involve Boxer nuke-rushing somebody. However, since I'm sure you knew that, I'm looking forward to seeing how you'll work that in | ||
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On March 09 2008 08:35 Plexa wrote: lol when the mafia list comes out it will be hilarious Yeah, it'll be great. We'll need like a day or two for post-match discussion | ||
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On March 11 2008 07:06 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: EPIC LULZ. I wouldn't argue with you, your reputation is OVER NINE THOUSSAAAAND on these forusm after all. Hell, your e-penis is no doubt longer than LONGCAT and I feel like screaming FUCK YEAH SEAKING whenever I read one of your glorious posts. Shallow, you were lynched. It's only fair that anyone who reads this thread shouldn't have to put up with your annoying and immature posts. This is teamliquid, not 4chan. | ||
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. The mafia has almost certainly won, possibly due to our distrust of those in authority positions (I'm amazed that Tracil lasted this long).One of the problems with this game, as far as I can see is that the mafia is not penalized as heavily as the town for inactivity. Someone on the mafia team can still send a full list of people to Chuiu, even if he's the only one playing. On the other hand, each townie needs to be active in order to vote, which is their only means of trying to kill a mafioso. While inactive mafia are also inable to vote, this is not their primary means of killing people, so it isn't crippling. Maybe you could think up some way so that inactive mafia are a disadvantage to the mafia team. My thought is that Chuiu or Dapperdan sets up some free phpBB forum where the mafia can discuss their hits, and vote on who to hit. Chuiu and Dapperdan can be given mod privileges, and at the end of a round they can delete the forum accounts of that round's mafia, so a new group of mafia can discuss in private. Another possibility is to bribe/convince/give head to/blackmail a mod to ban inactives. Moral, no. Good for the game, yes. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY] was just Temp banned for 2 days by SonuvBob. That account was created on 2007-01-01 19:57:01 and had 3332 posts. Reason: I have my reasons. O_o While I was annoyed by his immature behavior, I won't deny that he helped keep the thread alive. | ||
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On March 12 2008 10:29 Empyrean wrote: Here's the list we propose: 1- Alventenie 2- Alventenie 3- ulszz 4- cdrdude 5- ZBir 6- infinity21 Arg! Ye scurvy dog! Villainy I say! I was too pretty to die! | ||
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My list of protection was as follows: Night 1: SoMuchBetter (I would have watched FS here, but he was voted mayor) Night 2: Falcynn (in retrospect, I think this is funny because he was a veteran) Night 3: Live2Win (He never returned the favor, what a douche  )Night 4: HotZhot (I was going to watch over Alventenie, but I decided to go with what was known )Not once did I actually help. Wow, do I ever suck (but I did start the bandwagon rolling on lynching to miss the mark, IIRC that saved L2W's life) | ||
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On March 12 2008 11:36 Chuiu wrote: Oh and talk about doing a terrible job, Tracil was one of the worst players in the game. I think he was the best player the mafia had and wasn't even on their side. Didn't even pardon two people he openly admitted he thought were innocent. Ooh, burn Funny though, I always trusted Tracil--and I was right--but I guess he never really helped, and went inactive at the end. IIRC, he said he'd not play the next game, so I guess it's better off for somebody. I kind of wish I had some kind of records of my thought process throughout the game, I don't remember what I was voting, much less thinking for some of my earlier decisions.==edit== On March 12 2008 11:46 fusionsdf wrote: I also dont get the whole quesadilla = manly thing I have a hard time remembering where, but at one game (proleague, starleage, I really don't recall), Quesadilla and another TLer were holding up a sign that said "Ream Men Cheese" and "Respekt tha west coast". Quesadillas are a type of mexican wrap that emphasizes cheese (and I'm awesome at making them too). ==edit2== Wait a second! Empyrean edited his post above me! He's clearly a mafia | ||
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A big thanks to Chuiu and Dapperdan, you have made a truly epic thread. | ||
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