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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 09 2024 14:29 GMT
#1601
Soz trfel

That post was more for you then oats
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
June 09 2024 14:30 GMT
#1602
On June 09 2024 23:00 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 22:52 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 21:36 Trfel wrote:
@AlphaZero, for what it's worth I wasn't trying to "lead" anything.

@marvellosity, I'd consider lowering sandroba for sure. Maybe Vivax too but he might be fine there (I'm probably just paranoid). And I honestly would put Koshi higher, which I know you don't want to hear.

Could be wrong, the one game I played with mafia!Koshi had the slight issue of me also being mafia so I didn't play, so idk what mafia!Koshi is like, but if I had to guess I don't think it would be this.

@Oatsmaster, why wouldn't the reverse apply? Like, why wouldn't mafia be happy lynching town!Kelsi3r and saving the town!scott31337 lynch for tomorrow?

Because kel is an infinitely easier lynch tmr?
You think so? I think scott31337 is a pretty easy lynch tomorrow (or at any point), but I could see that being wrong I suppose. Other than me and rsoultin, I don't think anyone was particularly vocal about not lynching scott31337?
@AlphaZero, I don't really have much to add. I tend to be right when I defend people suspected by most of the game, I think there was one time I was wrong maybe? But maybe you're right, I can stop, if scott31337 dies then so be it.
Dmb wouldn't vote Scott

It was literally in the post you last responded to me about

I reckon dmb is not trying to solve the game and is scummy

I try and i will even try more as soon as the people here getting activ. How the fuck should i find out who the fuck is mafia if half of the people not playing where is slam, sandro, rayn,..... guys come on pls write something here.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 09 2024 14:32 GMT
#1603
On June 09 2024 23:30 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 23:00 Mocsta wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:52 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 21:36 Trfel wrote:
@AlphaZero, for what it's worth I wasn't trying to "lead" anything.

@marvellosity, I'd consider lowering sandroba for sure. Maybe Vivax too but he might be fine there (I'm probably just paranoid). And I honestly would put Koshi higher, which I know you don't want to hear.

Could be wrong, the one game I played with mafia!Koshi had the slight issue of me also being mafia so I didn't play, so idk what mafia!Koshi is like, but if I had to guess I don't think it would be this.

@Oatsmaster, why wouldn't the reverse apply? Like, why wouldn't mafia be happy lynching town!Kelsi3r and saving the town!scott31337 lynch for tomorrow?

Because kel is an infinitely easier lynch tmr?
You think so? I think scott31337 is a pretty easy lynch tomorrow (or at any point), but I could see that being wrong I suppose. Other than me and rsoultin, I don't think anyone was particularly vocal about not lynching scott31337?
@AlphaZero, I don't really have much to add. I tend to be right when I defend people suspected by most of the game, I think there was one time I was wrong maybe? But maybe you're right, I can stop, if scott31337 dies then so be it.
Dmb wouldn't vote Scott

It was literally in the post you last responded to me about

I reckon dmb is not trying to solve the game and is scummy

I try and i will even try more as soon as the people here getting activ. How the fuck should i find out who the fuck is mafia if half of the people not playing where is slam, sandro, rayn,..... guys come on pls write something here.

This is just mafia yes? She has an entire day she hasn’t read and she is coming in here complaining about 3 players outta the 11 remaining not posting, curiously the same complaint as az and marv
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 09 2024 14:32 GMT
#1604
On June 09 2024 23:29 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 23:25 Mocsta wrote:
On June 09 2024 23:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 23:02 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 23:00 Mocsta wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:52 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 21:36 Trfel wrote:
@AlphaZero, for what it's worth I wasn't trying to "lead" anything.

@marvellosity, I'd consider lowering sandroba for sure. Maybe Vivax too but he might be fine there (I'm probably just paranoid). And I honestly would put Koshi higher, which I know you don't want to hear.

Could be wrong, the one game I played with mafia!Koshi had the slight issue of me also being mafia so I didn't play, so idk what mafia!Koshi is like, but if I had to guess I don't think it would be this.

@Oatsmaster, why wouldn't the reverse apply? Like, why wouldn't mafia be happy lynching town!Kelsi3r and saving the town!scott31337 lynch for tomorrow?

Because kel is an infinitely easier lynch tmr?
You think so? I think scott31337 is a pretty easy lynch tomorrow (or at any point), but I could see that being wrong I suppose. Other than me and rsoultin, I don't think anyone was particularly vocal about not lynching scott31337?
@AlphaZero, I don't really have much to add. I tend to be right when I defend people suspected by most of the game, I think there was one time I was wrong maybe? But maybe you're right, I can stop, if scott31337 dies then so be it.
Dmb wouldn't vote Scott

It was literally in the post you last responded to me about

I reckon dmb is not trying to solve the game and is scummy
She said she wouldn't lynch scott31337 at this time but left the door wide, wide open for doing so in the future. So I wouldn't consider that a deterrent for future lynches.

Yes, I agree that die_meatbaby could definitely be mafia.
On June 08 2024 10:01 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:46 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:04 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 08:17 AlphaZero wrote:
I’ll lynch vivax with you oats.

Vote:vivax



Is first time you play with vivax?
I am used to always read vivax first because for me are 2 option with vivax
first when i am mafia I have to get him out of the game as fast as possibole
second is if i am town he is still the "easiest" read for me.
If vivax is mafia he just posting random shit, jokes, memes, off the topic stuff and hating the government of austria
if he is Town he actually trys to tell us his opinion, try to find scummy shit, beeing paranoid about chez but he is not in the game and hating the government of austria.

For me he looks like Town (atm)
you have any other scum reads?

Source on the mafia meta read?


Are you looking for the weakest players again like in your last mafia game?

I’d go after you no? Why would I go after vivax? Answer the question please


I just wanted to remind you
you cannot make the same bs twice
On June 08 2024 10:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 10:13 rsoultin wrote:
i mean the having icky vibes off az i can identify with but maybe your time would be better spent catching up if you're just throwing shade at oats because he was pushing you as mafia in an earlier game


I am not pushing him as mafia(atm). i just wanted to remind him that some things should not be done twice
Maybe I'm making something out of nothing, but these posts are at least worth looking into? Why would die_meatbaby, as town, warn someone not to do something that would give them away as mafia?

Because that’s who she is lol
nah post is slightly out of context

She's saying mafia!oats tunneled town!dmb as a weak/easy lunch

It's clarified with rsoultin
On June 08 2024 09:57 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:52 rsoultin wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:46 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:04 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 08:17 AlphaZero wrote:
I’ll lynch vivax with you oats.

Vote:vivax



Is first time you play with vivax?
I am used to always read vivax first because for me are 2 option with vivax
first when i am mafia I have to get him out of the game as fast as possibole
second is if i am town he is still the "easiest" read for me.
If vivax is mafia he just posting random shit, jokes, memes, off the topic stuff and hating the government of austria
if he is Town he actually trys to tell us his opinion, try to find scummy shit, beeing paranoid about chez but he is not in the game and hating the government of austria.

For me he looks like Town (atm)
you have any other scum reads?

Source on the mafia meta read?


Are you looking for the weakest players again like in your last mafia game?


do you feel vivax is one of the weakest players in this game? this is a genuine question because i wouldn't normally consider him a weak player in a vacuum, at least as town


No not at all. V already played a lot of mafia games on many different websides and some of that are really good. It´s just my thing that I am always try to read him first.
And this was more like a general question to oats, because in his last game (mafia Oats) just posted kill dmb. vote dmb. scum dmb... and he came almost through with this bs on just hitting on the weak players, newbe or how ever you want to call me


Unless I'm misunderstanding Oatsmaster that doesn't contradict what he is saying?
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 20:59 marvellosity wrote:
In town-DMB world, I feel quite strongly that she has an aversion to lynching ‘lynch baity’ players, because I think she sees herself in that position and doesn’t like it happening to others like her.

It’s what makes it really tricky to figure out the motivations behind it
Like if you take marvellosity's view here to be true, I could see it making sense, where die_meatbaby is so focused on not going for easy lynches that she's willing to go out of her way to warn someone not to do that, even if them doing so would actually benefit her.

If that makes sense?

It doesn't because she votes kelsier for being inactive which is a policy lynch of someone she thinks is town...

Where is town motivation in that?

She had a scum read on az.. coulda just parked a vote there

I mean as tvt , her vote is pointless regardless
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 14:37 GMT
#1605
On June 09 2024 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 23:30 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2024 23:00 Mocsta wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:52 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 21:36 Trfel wrote:
@AlphaZero, for what it's worth I wasn't trying to "lead" anything.

@marvellosity, I'd consider lowering sandroba for sure. Maybe Vivax too but he might be fine there (I'm probably just paranoid). And I honestly would put Koshi higher, which I know you don't want to hear.

Could be wrong, the one game I played with mafia!Koshi had the slight issue of me also being mafia so I didn't play, so idk what mafia!Koshi is like, but if I had to guess I don't think it would be this.

@Oatsmaster, why wouldn't the reverse apply? Like, why wouldn't mafia be happy lynching town!Kelsi3r and saving the town!scott31337 lynch for tomorrow?

Because kel is an infinitely easier lynch tmr?
You think so? I think scott31337 is a pretty easy lynch tomorrow (or at any point), but I could see that being wrong I suppose. Other than me and rsoultin, I don't think anyone was particularly vocal about not lynching scott31337?
@AlphaZero, I don't really have much to add. I tend to be right when I defend people suspected by most of the game, I think there was one time I was wrong maybe? But maybe you're right, I can stop, if scott31337 dies then so be it.
Dmb wouldn't vote Scott

It was literally in the post you last responded to me about

I reckon dmb is not trying to solve the game and is scummy

I try and i will even try more as soon as the people here getting activ. How the fuck should i find out who the fuck is mafia if half of the people not playing where is slam, sandro, rayn,..... guys come on pls write something here.

This is just mafia yes? She has an entire day she hasn’t read and she is coming in here complaining about 3 players outta the 11 remaining not posting, curiously the same complaint as az and marv


Yeah the level of outrage doesn’t really match her lack of investment to this point. Also there is plenty to comment on. Not buying what she is selling
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 14:37 GMT
#1606
It’s not great is it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 14:38 GMT
#1607
I get what you guys are saying but personally I'd rather wait?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 14:39 GMT
#1608
On June 09 2024 23:38 Trfel wrote:
I get what you guys are saying but personally I'd rather wait?
AlphaZero's going to bite my head off for saying this, isn't he.

Whoops.

Too late to take it back though. Just trust me.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
June 09 2024 14:50 GMT
#1609
On June 09 2024 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 23:30 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2024 23:00 Mocsta wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:52 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 21:36 Trfel wrote:
@AlphaZero, for what it's worth I wasn't trying to "lead" anything.

@marvellosity, I'd consider lowering sandroba for sure. Maybe Vivax too but he might be fine there (I'm probably just paranoid). And I honestly would put Koshi higher, which I know you don't want to hear.

Could be wrong, the one game I played with mafia!Koshi had the slight issue of me also being mafia so I didn't play, so idk what mafia!Koshi is like, but if I had to guess I don't think it would be this.

@Oatsmaster, why wouldn't the reverse apply? Like, why wouldn't mafia be happy lynching town!Kelsi3r and saving the town!scott31337 lynch for tomorrow?

Because kel is an infinitely easier lynch tmr?
You think so? I think scott31337 is a pretty easy lynch tomorrow (or at any point), but I could see that being wrong I suppose. Other than me and rsoultin, I don't think anyone was particularly vocal about not lynching scott31337?
@AlphaZero, I don't really have much to add. I tend to be right when I defend people suspected by most of the game, I think there was one time I was wrong maybe? But maybe you're right, I can stop, if scott31337 dies then so be it.
Dmb wouldn't vote Scott

It was literally in the post you last responded to me about

I reckon dmb is not trying to solve the game and is scummy

I try and i will even try more as soon as the people here getting activ. How the fuck should i find out who the fuck is mafia if half of the people not playing where is slam, sandro, rayn,..... guys come on pls write something here.

This is just mafia yes? She has an entire day she hasn’t read and she is coming in here complaining about 3 players outta the 11 remaining not posting, curiously the same complaint as az and marv


I am sorry that I wasn't playing yesterday because of work. I need some sleep and I will start as soon as the night is over. It's not smart to post lists or opinions on who is what in the night...
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 14:50 GMT
#1610
Mocsta

Starts out by voting for Kelsi3r. I think this is valid, Koshi and AlphaZero probably disagree, whatever (shrug)

Mocsta then says that AlphaZero is his top scum read (#703 if you care). But he doesn't explain why for almost two hours? On one hand I get it, since AlphaZero wasn't super likely to be lynched, on the other hand this is fairly early day 1, and he claims to have (and later posts) serious reasoning? (#719, #727) Don't think this makes him mafia, but it's interesting at least.

Mocsta's suspicions of die_meatbaby (here) feel a bit off, nothing too special but I slightly disagree with his characterization of die_meatbaby's play, when combined with withholding conclusion to ask about meta and to see how die_meatbaby responds to AlphaZero voting for Vivax, the whole thing just makes me feel a little weird? Maybe I'm making something out of nothing, idk.

Finished Mocsta's filter, honestly it seems mostly fine to me? Not a lot sticks out in a scummy way. I'm starting to get tired so maybe that's just me not being observant?

Skimmed marvellosity's filter for Mocsta stuff, per request. There's Mocsta's "mistake" early on, and there's AlphaZero's characterization that Mocsta is fabricating his reads. It really just looks like those things right? I don't find them terribly compelling. I also agree that Mocsta's play looked rather town motivated towards the end of Day 1. Or at least, not mafia motivated.

In the end I think Mocsta is a solid townread and I don't see much reason to call him mafia.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 14:51 GMT
#1611
On June 09 2024 23:50 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 23:30 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2024 23:00 Mocsta wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:52 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 21:36 Trfel wrote:
@AlphaZero, for what it's worth I wasn't trying to "lead" anything.

@marvellosity, I'd consider lowering sandroba for sure. Maybe Vivax too but he might be fine there (I'm probably just paranoid). And I honestly would put Koshi higher, which I know you don't want to hear.

Could be wrong, the one game I played with mafia!Koshi had the slight issue of me also being mafia so I didn't play, so idk what mafia!Koshi is like, but if I had to guess I don't think it would be this.

@Oatsmaster, why wouldn't the reverse apply? Like, why wouldn't mafia be happy lynching town!Kelsi3r and saving the town!scott31337 lynch for tomorrow?

Because kel is an infinitely easier lynch tmr?
You think so? I think scott31337 is a pretty easy lynch tomorrow (or at any point), but I could see that being wrong I suppose. Other than me and rsoultin, I don't think anyone was particularly vocal about not lynching scott31337?
@AlphaZero, I don't really have much to add. I tend to be right when I defend people suspected by most of the game, I think there was one time I was wrong maybe? But maybe you're right, I can stop, if scott31337 dies then so be it.
Dmb wouldn't vote Scott

It was literally in the post you last responded to me about

I reckon dmb is not trying to solve the game and is scummy

I try and i will even try more as soon as the people here getting activ. How the fuck should i find out who the fuck is mafia if half of the people not playing where is slam, sandro, rayn,..... guys come on pls write something here.

This is just mafia yes? She has an entire day she hasn’t read and she is coming in here complaining about 3 players outta the 11 remaining not posting, curiously the same complaint as az and marv


I am sorry that I wasn't playing yesterday because of work. I need some sleep and I will start as soon as the night is over. It's not smart to post lists or opinions on who is what in the night...
The bolded claim above is generally considered untrue, especially by stronger players. I think you'd be much, much, MUCH better off sharing your thoughts now as opposed to waiting.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
June 09 2024 14:53 GMT
#1612
I have a townread on dmb fwiw. She seems very relaxed tonally.

I‘d like a doc on marv.
I‘d like rayn to play the game.

I love GabeN
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 15:14 GMT
#1613
On June 09 2024 23:53 Vivax wrote:
I have a townread on dmb fwiw. She seems very relaxed tonally.

I‘d like a doc on marv.
I‘d like rayn to play the game.

I love GabeN
Is scott31337 mafia still?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
June 09 2024 15:16 GMT
#1614
On June 10 2024 00:14 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 23:53 Vivax wrote:
I have a townread on dmb fwiw. She seems very relaxed tonally.

I‘d like a doc on marv.
I‘d like rayn to play the game.

I love GabeN
Is scott31337 mafia still?


I think so. Don‘t understand his post about AZ if he isn‘t.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 09 2024 15:21 GMT
#1615
On June 09 2024 23:53 Vivax wrote:
I have a townread on dmb fwiw. She seems very relaxed tonally.

I‘d like a doc on marv.
I‘d like rayn to play the game.

I love GabeN

From her 3 posts in the last 24 hours?
No gg, No skill.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 15:29 GMT
#1616
On June 10 2024 00:16 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 00:14 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 23:53 Vivax wrote:
I have a townread on dmb fwiw. She seems very relaxed tonally.

I‘d like a doc on marv.
I‘d like rayn to play the game.

I love GabeN
Is scott31337 mafia still?


I think so. Don‘t understand his post about AZ if he isn‘t.
Which post? To clarify
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
June 09 2024 15:38 GMT
#1617
On June 09 2024 09:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 09:29 scott31337 wrote:
On June 09 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote:
one underlying issue i have with scott is that

when he was getting heat and i backed him, he made some posts that soft buddied to me.. which i thought was completely reasonable if town.

my issue therefore is that, as my read with AZ has shifted and evolved, hes not paid attention (publicly at least) to it.. no comments or impact on scotts AZ read is very weird to me.

now scott says hes completely up to date, so its been read, and apparently not relevant - so again. i find this super super weird and struggling to identify how town would do that.


AZ is not the lynch today unless everyone expands their mind. So forgive me for not spending the energy nested into such.

But he's my #2 still - so help me out - maybe I missed a point of yours.


Excuse me but what do you mean by the bolded.


This one
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
June 09 2024 15:39 GMT
#1618
On June 10 2024 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 23:53 Vivax wrote:
I have a townread on dmb fwiw. She seems very relaxed tonally.

I‘d like a doc on marv.
I‘d like rayn to play the game.

I love GabeN

From her 3 posts in the last 24 hours?


She‘s a busy bee
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 09 2024 15:43 GMT
#1619
On June 10 2024 00:39 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 23:53 Vivax wrote:
I have a townread on dmb fwiw. She seems very relaxed tonally.

I‘d like a doc on marv.
I‘d like rayn to play the game.

I love GabeN

From her 3 posts in the last 24 hours?


She‘s a busy bee

Not really sure how posting the same thing essentially 3-4 times is “relaxed tonally”, can you explain and present an example of mafia dmb please
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 15:46 GMT
#1620
On June 10 2024 00:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 00:39 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2024 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 23:53 Vivax wrote:
I have a townread on dmb fwiw. She seems very relaxed tonally.

I‘d like a doc on marv.
I‘d like rayn to play the game.

I love GabeN

From her 3 posts in the last 24 hours?


She‘s a busy bee

Not really sure how posting the same thing essentially 3-4 times is “relaxed tonally”, can you explain and present an example of mafia dmb please

I agree with this, I don’t get the tone read.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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