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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 11:45 GMT
#1521
On June 09 2024 20:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 17:47 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 09 2024 17:40 marvellosity wrote:
I will mull your oats point


Like not just oats though that wagon was obviously shot just by the
Let’s say sand is town. Then there are three strong players on the Scott wagon, and they are all town. And there is zero traction.

That means mafia wanted to lynch kels.

That’s not what it means at all? There are at least 4 town on the kel wagon
It could mean that mafia didn’t care who got lynched or they didn’t want to have to explain their Scott!town vote


Yes, this can all be true.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 11:45 GMT
#1522
Fixed the quotes for you too :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 11:52 GMT
#1523
In that world, does DMB know it was tvt?

Her reason for tr Scott was weak
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 11:56 GMT
#1524
On June 09 2024 20:52 marvellosity wrote:
In that world, does DMB know it was tvt?

Her reason for tr Scott was weak


Yeah I pinged on that too.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 09 2024 11:56 GMT
#1525
<3

No gg, No skill.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 11:56 GMT
#1526
On June 09 2024 20:56 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 20:52 marvellosity wrote:
In that world, does DMB know it was tvt?

Her reason for tr Scott was weak


Yeah I pinged on that too.


She did it a few times actually. Like was weird about not wanting to lynch Scott.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 09 2024 11:56 GMT
#1527
On June 09 2024 20:52 marvellosity wrote:
In that world, does DMB know it was tvt?

Her reason for tr Scott was weak

She did this in the long game too but she was wrong/town
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 11:58 GMT
#1528
On June 09 2024 20:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 20:52 marvellosity wrote:
In that world, does DMB know it was tvt?

Her reason for tr Scott was weak

She did this in the long game too but she was wrong/town

Same lack of reasoning?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 09 2024 11:58 GMT
#1529
On June 09 2024 20:58 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 20:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 20:52 marvellosity wrote:
In that world, does DMB know it was tvt?

Her reason for tr Scott was weak

She did this in the long game too but she was wrong/town

Same lack of reasoning?

From what I remember yes
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 11:59 GMT
#1530
In town-DMB world, I feel quite strongly that she has an aversion to lynching ‘lynch baity’ players, because I think she sees herself in that position and doesn’t like it happening to others like her.

It’s what makes it really tricky to figure out the motivations behind it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 12:00 GMT
#1531
Oats what are your actual reads? Do you still think Scott is mafia?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 12:05 GMT
#1532
Slams filter is such trash. I don’t know what that actually means but it’s just …

I said earlier in the game I didn’t believe in rayn/slam mafia but tbh there’s literally no reason why not really at this stage
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 12:13 GMT
#1533
On June 09 2024 21:05 marvellosity wrote:
Slams filter is such trash. I don’t know what that actually means but it’s just …

I said earlier in the game I didn’t believe in rayn/slam mafia but tbh there’s literally no reason why not really at this stage


Too easy though.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 12:15 GMT
#1534
On June 09 2024 21:13 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 21:05 marvellosity wrote:
Slams filter is such trash. I don’t know what that actually means but it’s just …

I said earlier in the game I didn’t believe in rayn/slam mafia but tbh there’s literally no reason why not really at this stage


Too easy though.

No such thing. I’m not saying it’s necessarily the case but if it is then neither of them were in any (real) danger yet.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 12:19 GMT
#1535
Trfel
AZ
Vivax
Oats
Sand
Mocsta
Scott
DMB
Koshi
Rayn
Slam

Let’s say this is a very rough order because beyond near the top a lot can move about. And it doesn’t even really mean I think slam is most likely to be mafia either. I just didn’t know where else to put him.

Who do you guys reckon I’ve got quite a lot wrong?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 12:22 GMT
#1536
What strikes me is how few confident townreads I have
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 09 2024 12:26 GMT
#1537
On June 09 2024 21:00 AlphaZero wrote:
Oats what are your actual reads? Do you still think Scott is mafia?

I’m gonna hold off on my actual reads for a bit but what I’ve been thinking about Scott are a couple of scenarios. Nothing to do with his play atm
Firstly, if Scott is town a strong mafia team would’ve done their best to get him lynched yesterday because we just lynch kel after that almost assuredly. So im assuming its not a strong mafia team in this scenario, probably 1 or 0 mafia on Scott in this scenario

If Scott is mafia then I doubt there was more than 1 mafia on the wagon. I guess this is where my reads are atm, koshi is the only one on that wagon I’d want to lynch soon based on his play
No gg, No skill.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 12:36 GMT
#1538
@AlphaZero, for what it's worth I wasn't trying to "lead" anything.

@marvellosity, I'd consider lowering sandroba for sure. Maybe Vivax too but he might be fine there (I'm probably just paranoid). And I honestly would put Koshi higher, which I know you don't want to hear.

Could be wrong, the one game I played with mafia!Koshi had the slight issue of me also being mafia so I didn't play, so idk what mafia!Koshi is like, but if I had to guess I don't think it would be this.

@Oatsmaster, why wouldn't the reverse apply? Like, why wouldn't mafia be happy lynching town!Kelsi3r and saving the town!scott31337 lynch for tomorrow?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 12:42 GMT
#1539
Maybe Mocsta is mafia, definitely worth considering. I might not be scared enough of his scum play. I just have a soft spot for the way he posts tbh. It's hard to really figure out his alignment because we think so differently tbh.

His willingness to switch reads and try different angles makes me think he is town, but I suppose he could fake that as mafia.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 12:52 GMT
#1540
On June 09 2024 18:04 AlphaZero wrote:
Here is the thing. His top scum read and the lynch he was pushing flipped town. And his reads didn’t change AT ALL. It was just, let’s keep lynching down my list. Which as it happens has another townie at the top.

Even for bad players that’s not a normal response as town.
I dunno, man.

His vote was Kelsi3r because that was practical, but I was under the impression he wanted to lynch you (AlphaZero) and maybe even sandroba more, if he could?

Of all things to suspect scott31337 for, I don't get this one especially. His reasoning for wanting to lynch you and sandroba seems to primarily be that you two are incorrectly calling for his own lynch. Kelsi3r flipping town doesn't change that, so why would scott31337 change his reads?

Yes, it's extremely omgus, and you can rightfully question the validity of that reasoning, but I actually think scott31337 not reevaluating makes sense from his theoretical town mindset. There are a bunch of things I'd consider lynching scott31337 for before this one.
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