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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 08:26 GMT
#1481
Not hugely confident on the oats read, but I think if this was his 95th mafia game in a row he’d be less…

Maybe just less.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 08:34 GMT
#1482
My own ‘tinfoil’ theory here is Koshi is mafia and all this play is designed to create distance between him and Mocsta.

As I think his interpretation of my play around Mocsta makes zero sense, so that’s the logical reason he’s pushing that angle.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 08:36 GMT
#1483
On June 09 2024 17:26 marvellosity wrote:
Not hugely confident on the oats read, but I think if this was his 95th mafia game in a row he’d be less…

Maybe just less.


The reason I’m reconsidering oats is that it’s all surface level. Like he is probing and poking stuff. But really he ended up on the really shitty kelsier lynch and didn’t do anything with the poking and prodding.

I started to get worried it’s performative. Because to me at least it lead to a very underwhelming.

Maybe I’m being pocketed but I think Mocsta looked very town latter part of the phase.

I think the people who didn’t really consider Scott and who just defaulted to kelsier are worth looking at.

As is sandroba to be honest. I know that you probably don’t like to hear that as you have this kind of ‘good player’ mutual respect thing going on.

But he is someone who is a priority shot day one in previous games.

Something has changed here.

"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 08:37 GMT
#1484
Like if there is anyone in the game I have tried to work out d1, it’s been Mocsta. I can’t get over how he’s not seeing that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 08:39 GMT
#1485
On June 09 2024 17:36 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 17:26 marvellosity wrote:
Not hugely confident on the oats read, but I think if this was his 95th mafia game in a row he’d be less…

Maybe just less.


The reason I’m reconsidering oats is that it’s all surface level. Like he is probing and poking stuff. But really he ended up on the really shitty kelsier lynch and didn’t do anything with the poking and prodding.

I started to get worried it’s performative. Because to me at least it lead to a very underwhelming.

Maybe I’m being pocketed but I think Mocsta looked very town latter part of the phase.

I think the people who didn’t really consider Scott and who just defaulted to kelsier are worth looking at.

As is sandroba to be honest. I know that you probably don’t like to hear that as you have this kind of ‘good player’ mutual respect thing going on.

But he is someone who is a priority shot day one in previous games.

Something has changed here.


I agree mocsta looked better and that’s why I ended up leaving him off the table towards the end.

The mind meld with sand was real, but without more content there obviously exists the possibility it was just good mafia play (from my perspective at least)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 08:40 GMT
#1486
I will mull your oats point
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 08:44 GMT
#1487
On June 09 2024 17:34 marvellosity wrote:
My own ‘tinfoil’ theory here is Koshi is mafia and all this play is designed to create distance between him and Mocsta.

As I think his interpretation of my play around Mocsta makes zero sense, so that’s the logical reason he’s pushing that angle.


That’s… not an approach I would expect from you honestly.

Why would koshi do this as mafia? What benefit is there.
I have definitely seen him do this as town as well, and it’s night. So there is that.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 08:47 GMT
#1488
On June 09 2024 17:44 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 17:34 marvellosity wrote:
My own ‘tinfoil’ theory here is Koshi is mafia and all this play is designed to create distance between him and Mocsta.

As I think his interpretation of my play around Mocsta makes zero sense, so that’s the logical reason he’s pushing that angle.


That’s… not an approach I would expect from you honestly.

Why would koshi do this as mafia? What benefit is there.
I have definitely seen him do this as town as well, and it’s night. So there is that.

It’s all based from my total lack of understanding about his lack of understanding about my play around Mocsta

But it is why I caveated it with tinfoil. Not so much sleep also
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 08:47 GMT
#1489
On June 09 2024 17:40 marvellosity wrote:
I will mull your oats point


Like not just oats though that wagon was obviously shot just by the economics of it. And I pointed it out and no one cared.

There was some kind of inertia with kels as the chosen ml.

Let’s say sand is town. Then there are three strong players on the Scott wagon, and they are all town. And there is zero traction.

That means mafia wanted to lynch kels.

If so, why is that?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 08:48 GMT
#1490
On June 09 2024 17:47 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 17:40 marvellosity wrote:
I will mull your oats point


Like not just oats though that wagon was obviously shot just by the economics of it. And I pointed it out and no one cared.

There was some kind of inertia with kels as the chosen ml.

Let’s say sand is town. Then there are three strong players on the Scott wagon, and they are all town. And there is zero traction.

That means mafia wanted to lynch kels.

If so, why is that?


Shit. Obviously shit.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 08:49 GMT
#1491
On June 09 2024 17:47 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 17:40 marvellosity wrote:
I will mull your oats point


Like not just oats though that wagon was obviously shot just by the economics of it. And I pointed it out and no one cared.

There was some kind of inertia with kels as the chosen ml.

Let’s say sand is town. Then there are three strong players on the Scott wagon, and they are all town. And there is zero traction.

That means mafia wanted to lynch kels.

If so, why is that?


Or mafia wanted Scott alive. If he is mafia it’s self evident .

If he is town why is that the case?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 08:50 GMT
#1492
On June 09 2024 17:48 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 17:47 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 09 2024 17:40 marvellosity wrote:
I will mull your oats point


Like not just oats though that wagon was obviously shot just by the economics of it. And I pointed it out and no one cared.

There was some kind of inertia with kels as the chosen ml.

Let’s say sand is town. Then there are three strong players on the Scott wagon, and they are all town. And there is zero traction.

That means mafia wanted to lynch kels.

If so, why is that?


Shit. Obviously shit.

This hilariously reads like you are totally sassing your own post
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 08:51 GMT
#1493
On June 09 2024 17:50 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 17:48 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 09 2024 17:47 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 09 2024 17:40 marvellosity wrote:
I will mull your oats point


Like not just oats though that wagon was obviously shot just by the economics of it. And I pointed it out and no one cared.

There was some kind of inertia with kels as the chosen ml.

Let’s say sand is town. Then there are three strong players on the Scott wagon, and they are all town. And there is zero traction.

That means mafia wanted to lynch kels.

If so, why is that?


Shit. Obviously shit.

This hilariously reads like you are totally sassing your own post


It’s all for content
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 08:52 GMT
#1494
On June 09 2024 17:51 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 17:50 marvellosity wrote:
On June 09 2024 17:48 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 09 2024 17:47 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 09 2024 17:40 marvellosity wrote:
I will mull your oats point


Like not just oats though that wagon was obviously shot just by the economics of it. And I pointed it out and no one cared.

There was some kind of inertia with kels as the chosen ml.

Let’s say sand is town. Then there are three strong players on the Scott wagon, and they are all town. And there is zero traction.

That means mafia wanted to lynch kels.

If so, why is that?


Shit. Obviously shit.

This hilariously reads like you are totally sassing your own post


It’s all for content

Funny guy :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 08:52 GMT
#1495
On June 09 2024 17:47 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 17:40 marvellosity wrote:
I will mull your oats point


Like not just oats though that wagon was obviously shot just by the economics of it. And I pointed it out and no one cared.

There was some kind of inertia with kels as the chosen ml.

Let’s say sand is town. Then there are three strong players on the Scott wagon, and they are all town. And there is zero traction.

That means mafia wanted to lynch kels.

If so, why is that?

I cared but didn’t really know what I was supposed to do about it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 08:52 GMT
#1496
I also hate that I made this account to be low effort and troll around and whatever and now I’m so fucking annoyed by how shit the town is being I’m amping up my effort levels ffs.

Like trfel is leading the town, but he is all waffle, lead a terrible lynxh and imo hard defended mafia this game.

It’s infuriating to take a step back into that shit.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 08:53 GMT
#1497
On June 09 2024 17:52 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 17:47 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 09 2024 17:40 marvellosity wrote:
I will mull your oats point


Like not just oats though that wagon was obviously shot just by the economics of it. And I pointed it out and no one cared.

There was some kind of inertia with kels as the chosen ml.

Let’s say sand is town. Then there are three strong players on the Scott wagon, and they are all town. And there is zero traction.

That means mafia wanted to lynch kels.

If so, why is that?

I cared but didn’t really know what I was supposed to do about it


Yea, me neither. What does that mean Marv?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 08:54 GMT
#1498
It wasn’t a terrible lynch in fairness.

I imagine you might die tonight, assuming you’re town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 08:55 GMT
#1499
On June 09 2024 17:53 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 17:52 marvellosity wrote:
On June 09 2024 17:47 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 09 2024 17:40 marvellosity wrote:
I will mull your oats point


Like not just oats though that wagon was obviously shot just by the economics of it. And I pointed it out and no one cared.

There was some kind of inertia with kels as the chosen ml.

Let’s say sand is town. Then there are three strong players on the Scott wagon, and they are all town. And there is zero traction.

That means mafia wanted to lynch kels.

If so, why is that?

I cared but didn’t really know what I was supposed to do about it


Yea, me neither. What does that mean Marv?


It means there was mafia agenda at play imo
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 08:56 GMT
#1500
On June 09 2024 17:54 marvellosity wrote:
It wasn’t a terrible lynch in fairness.

I imagine you might die tonight, assuming you’re town.



Yes it was, it was from the moment the wagon played out the way it did at the last hour.

And before that it was a fucking coin flip.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
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