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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:46 GMT
#5241
On June 18 2024 18:23 Mocsta wrote:
Was Rayns 2 sentence to vote sandroba really that great like he says? why did it take koshi to get the wagon going

Ask yourself how did early sandroba voters use their lynch.. one person said look how town I am.. the other said sheep me to vote more scum.. can you guess which is scummy and which is townie? Can you guess who said which?

quote for myselöf fo tomorrow.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:59 GMT
#5242
On June 18 2024 19:51 Mocsta wrote:
Always wants to throw out following thread sentiment yet can't hide away from filter

Has the audacity to blame it on being stuck between az and vivax - how townie

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2024 09:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay.
##unvote
##vote vivax


Ohh didn't realise there was a pattern pot calling.the kettle black

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 09:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Im sorry i thought i had some time today, i dont.
##vote Kelsi3r



Of course he couldn't swap.off sandroba cos counter wagon was rayn

worst post in the game.
just look at the fucking post???
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 20:02 GMT
#5243
idk, why am i talking wit idiots, last game i had a scumread in the obs qt because palamr asked, "hey how does this thing add up", i told him how it adds up, what are the possibilities, and obs started screaming RAYN IS MAFIA BECAUSE HE IS CALLING JEALOUS MAFIA!!!! Fucking ridiculous..

Seems like that obs is somehow translated to this game rn. Fuck that Mocsta post is all wrong wrong wrong wrgoondsnann1!!!!! How are you so bad you let anyone spill that kinda shit?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 20:03 GMT
#5244
Like what the fuck has ANYTHING in those quotes to do why i did or did not vote for sandroba??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 20:04 GMT
#5245
DP you are so bad.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 20:07 GMT
#5246
You are so fucking DarthPunk if you think i am mafia this game, that maybe you actually have to be mafia...
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 19 2024 20:07 GMT
#5247
On June 20 2024 02:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2024 02:30 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 20 2024 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna first say this, i don't know if it means anything to anyone and i really don't care but i am gonna say it anyways. For the past games since i rolled mafia, i have either not been able to play really, because i have been killed on N1-N2, or i have been called mafia by pretty much everyone in the obs QT at least (thankfully players in those games have been way better than obs QT).

So i decided to post in a way that i have been flamed for -- for thinking that type of posting comes from mafia, especially in the last game's obs QT. Notice that this is not saying i am playing intentionally bad, i just leave things that dont matter unsaid, and if i dont want to, or feel like to talk with someone i wont. This includes also stuff like no activity on weekends (also because i had no time past couple of weekends), only thing i didn't get to yet this game, is making arbitrary lists of no use, but i'll get to that next game.

I dont really wanna talk about D1 or N1 because unless scott is mafia, everything is just a waste of space, and if scott is mafia then i am not mafia so who the fuck cares.

I really had my most enjoyable times in this game D2-N2 talking with AZ, while a big lot of it was just him calling me mafia. But we DID have some nice conversations!! I again lost interest at some point when Trfel started calling me mafia with stuff like "you have not said anything smart", then i counter with "look Trfel, even if these things are wrong they are pretty damn smart -- backed up by other people, mainly AZ", and his response is "you havent said anything smart".... Maybe i am too old, but i dont really have any interest talking to rocks anymore, let alone convincing them.

I don't understand where this thing is coming from, that i am trying to take so "scummy credit" from sandroba's lynch (mainly pushed by mocsta)? It is literally bullshit argument. The only thing i have ever said about that, is that i pushed sandroba when everyone was on vivax, while telling (AZ) that case on vivax is bad. Idk how i am "using my credit in different way than Koshi is". it doesnt even make any sense.

Only way Koshi thought DMB is mafia is because he had a check, and i told Slam is 100% town. Just read the game, you can read it there, because Koshi thought Slam is mafia!! Then people (Koshi too!!!) start claiming that me, and me alone (apparently) was the reason DMB didn't get lynched D3. Sure, if you wanna call me mafia for not getting Koshi's soft claim, then yeah you can blame me. Here is the votecount at the time i voted though:
On June 15 2024 09:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count

Vivax(3): AlphaZero, Trfel, raynpelikoneet
AlphaZero (2); Scott31337, Mocsta, Mocsta, Vivax, die_meatbaby, Vivax, Mocsta,
Scott31337
die_meatbaby (1): Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Mocsta, Scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Vivax
Trfel (1): Alakaslam
Scott31337 (1): Trfel, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, AlphaZero, die_meatbaby
Mocsta (0): die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Vivax

Not Voting (1): Mocsta

With 3 votes, Vivax is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


I clearly said i need to go, and i will not vote for vivax over DMB (before my vote here).
AZ told me to go to sleep and not worry about it, which is the biggest reason i town read him, and that's the reason i voted for vivax over him. I do not think he would do that as mafia, rather than get me to vote for vivax to save himself. It was a nice play if he actually did it as mafia, but i don't think so, also as i said before my vote, all the scummy people were voting for AZ (mocsta, DMB, scott).

I did not vote for vivax to save dmb, i voted vivax to save AZ, when the sentiment already turned into vivax vs AZ. I dont know why Koshi is blaming me for that, when basically everyone else is more to "blame".... I made a decision between my two town reads, AZ read more town.

It's also a bit confusing that at least Koshi seemed to be thinking, that i managed to figure out he is a power role enough to roleblock him, but not enough to kill him?!?!? :D I mean like i made a mistake, the biggest mistake i made this game, to not realise Koshi is a parity cop with checks on DMB and Slam. Yeah i missed it. But like if i am mafia with DMB, i make the deduction that Koshi is a power role (knowing DMB is mafia), and then i do not kill him?? I think it's a very absurd claim to say i am smart enough to figure out PR, but dumb enough not to kill them (nobody would have cared about DMB without full claim from Koshi lol). Sure him flipping PC would do the same thing, but you remove confirmed town from the game instead of what... Trfel, who just fucked up the DMB lynch all by himself? Also if i know that, why do i whiteknight Slam at that point?

Talking about that, Koshi also said i am mafia because i "bluehunted Slam". I never bluehunted Slam. I knew Slam is not blue when he ragequitted, the only reason i asked if he was blue is because if he claimed blue he would be mafia. It is just as simple as that, and Slam knows that as well. If Slam was blue he would have claimed instead of asking for replacement. If he says this is not true, then he is probably godfather or just really fucking stupid...

I also see people calling me mafia for "not voting the confirmed mafia". Well first of all that confirmed mafia is mostly confirmed because of me (as i whiteknighted Slam -- EVEN TO AZ!!!). Secondly, if we have one mislynch, who the fuck cares if i vote anyone in the three people containing two mafia? Why possibly would i do that as mafia? Mafia is all about posturing, why do i "un-pose"? It's a fucking stupid argument, apparently even AZ took that... idk what to think of that, i dont think he is mafia but if he is mafia he is mafia definitely for that. I had my reasons for "trying" that, scott passed. It doesnt mean he is town but it definitely doesnt make him mafia, which it could if he was not smart.

That's why i did the things i did. Lynch me if you lynch me, i am not mafia.

---------------------------------------------------
Now for why Mocsta is mafia though:

I could get into all shit what other people did but it's unfair, so i just stick with Mocsta.

On June 10 2024 12:29 Mocsta wrote:
Why does everyone keep posting combos

We don't have the flips for association

keep this in mind at first.
and this:
On June 10 2024 13:05 Mocsta wrote:
Is Sandroba at risk of inactivity modkill?

Last post greater than 48hrs ago.

On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote:
xxxx




and this:
On June 10 2024 18:31 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn keeps getting pushed by my subconscious

Can't articulate. Just keep getting vision he is the key to this game

And then it is where Mocsta starts 100% following Trfel.
First case on Vivax, no doubt, perfect case, gogo!

Then he has some interaction with sandroba. What's weird about that interaction is that [b]he has no intention in asking anything about Vivax, who is he voting for atm]/b], but rather about AZ and scott who noone is interested in.

And then it starts, warming up on rayn wagon. Now this is the biggest mistake he made. On we go and:
Super big defense on sandroba starting from his this post in his talk with Oats.

This is why I usually sheep this man even if it is to hell 😅

Pretty sure you would have been lynched already if i was mafia.

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 20:09 GMT
#5248
VE, bhahahahahahaha
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 20:11 GMT
#5249
VE would have quit the game with burning the thread in ashes already
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 20:12 GMT
#5250
Conversion would have quit the game just by seeing the player list.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 20:13 GMT
#5251
yeah i am just gonna fuck off, sorry AZ, but it's whatever, you smurf you got caught.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 19 2024 20:17 GMT
#5252
Rayn if we lynch mocsta are you up to 1v1 him?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 20:25 GMT
#5253
On June 20 2024 05:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Rayn if we lynch mocsta are you up to 1v1 him?

yes
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 20:27 GMT
#5254
but it wont go to that, because mocsta is mafia
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 20:29 GMT
#5255
it is just fucking stupid.... and now i am gonna sleep.
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 19 2024 21:54 GMT
#5256
Rayn why does it have to be Mocsta and it’s not Scott???
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 19 2024 21:59 GMT
#5257
I think the attempts to try and pisd me off or mock me or whatever are pretty scummy tbh.

Rayn do you think Mocsta is capable of being this open in his Thinking as mafia?

Cause there is no doubt he has done scummy stuff. All of us have. Who are left in the game (which is why it’s hard)

But he also maintained a level of activity and transparency that is hard to fake.


I’m going to re read filters today.

Why do you think dmb scum read Mocsta since the start of the game?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 19 2024 23:10 GMT
#5258
See compare rayn to az now

Good post from az. Open question seeking to progress solving the game

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 19 2024 23:19 GMT
#5259
Rayn approach is quite different. But . I do concede he is majority wagon and that pressure can make players respond differently

Rayn. You aren't 100% mafia to me

The catch is. I'm certain that of scott / az / rayn. That Az is town

There is enough lynches for POE and I find you more probable to be mafia than scott.

Scott/dmb in particular doesn't shoot oats in my opinion. Trfel is questionable too but at least has relevance for vivax. I don't care you took control of the messaging and said you wouldn'tshoot oats. That's NAI

Az and me both lost influential support with oats/trfel at a point in the game we were vulnerable. Not impossible but so damn unlikely when the much simpler answer is that

the NK benefitted rayns game the most.





I think you have a higher chance to flip than
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 20 2024 01:50 GMT
#5260
Day Five Vote Count

raynpelikoneet (3): Mocsta, AlphaZero, Scott31337
Mocsta (1): raynpelikoneet

Not Voting (1) Alakaslam

With 3 votes, raynpelikoneet is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Friday, Jun 21 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

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