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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 14:13 GMT
#5201
What? Thatsnot what i asked at all 😂😂
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 19 2024 15:06 GMT
#5202
On June 19 2024 21:35 Mocsta wrote:
How about you solve the game rayn

Is that not the best defense and suits the qualities you bring as town


I agree!
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 15:43 GMT
#5203
Alright i am gonna have around two hours, let's see if i can write the post i want to in time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 16:57 GMT
#5204
can someone show me what is the bbcode to link something into the text?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 16:59 GMT
#5205
I am gonna first say this, i don't know if it means anything to anyone and i really don't care but i am gonna say it anyways. For the past games since i rolled mafia, i have either not been able to play really, because i have been killed on N1-N2, or i have been called mafia by pretty much everyone in the obs QT at least (thankfully players in those games have been way better than obs QT).

So i decided to post in a way that i have been flamed for -- for thinking that type of posting comes from mafia, especially in the last game's obs QT. Notice that this is not saying i am playing intentionally bad, i just leave things that dont matter unsaid, and if i dont want to, or feel like to talk with someone i wont. This includes also stuff like no activity on weekends (also because i had no time past couple of weekends), only thing i didn't get to yet this game, is making arbitrary lists of no use, but i'll get to that next game.

I dont really wanna talk about D1 or N1 because unless scott is mafia, everything is just a waste of space, and if scott is mafia then i am not mafia so who the fuck cares.

I really had my most enjoyable times in this game D2-N2 talking with AZ, while a big lot of it was just him calling me mafia. But we DID have some nice conversations!! I again lost interest at some point when Trfel started calling me mafia with stuff like "you have not said anything smart", then i counter with "look Trfel, even if these things are wrong they are pretty damn smart -- backed up by other people, mainly AZ", and his response is "you havent said anything smart".... Maybe i am too old, but i dont really have any interest talking to rocks anymore, let alone convincing them.

I don't understand where this thing is coming from, that i am trying to take so "scummy credit" from sandroba's lynch (mainly pushed by mocsta)? It is literally bullshit argument. The only thing i have ever said about that, is that i pushed sandroba when everyone was on vivax, while telling (AZ) that case on vivax is bad. Idk how i am "using my credit in different way than Koshi is". it doesnt even make any sense.

Only way Koshi thought DMB is mafia is because he had a check, and i told Slam is 100% town. Just read the game, you can read it there, because Koshi thought Slam is mafia!! Then people (Koshi too!!!) start claiming that me, and me alone (apparently) was the reason DMB didn't get lynched D3. Sure, if you wanna call me mafia for not getting Koshi's soft claim, then yeah you can blame me. Here is the votecount at the time i voted though:
On June 15 2024 09:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count

Vivax(3): AlphaZero, Trfel, raynpelikoneet
AlphaZero (2); Scott31337, Mocsta, Mocsta, Vivax, die_meatbaby, Vivax, Mocsta,
Scott31337
die_meatbaby (1): Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Mocsta, Scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Vivax
Trfel (1): Alakaslam
Scott31337 (1): Trfel, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, AlphaZero, die_meatbaby
Mocsta (0): die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Vivax

Not Voting (1): Mocsta

With 3 votes, Vivax is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


I clearly said i need to go, and i will not vote for vivax over DMB (before my vote here).
AZ told me to go to sleep and not worry about it, which is the biggest reason i town read him, and that's the reason i voted for vivax over him. I do not think he would do that as mafia, rather than get me to vote for vivax to save himself. It was a nice play if he actually did it as mafia, but i don't think so, also as i said before my vote, all the scummy people were voting for AZ (mocsta, DMB, scott).

I did not vote for vivax to save dmb, i voted vivax to save AZ, when the sentiment already turned into vivax vs AZ. I dont know why Koshi is blaming me for that, when basically everyone else is more to "blame".... I made a decision between my two town reads, AZ read more town.

It's also a bit confusing that at least Koshi seemed to be thinking, that i managed to figure out he is a power role enough to roleblock him, but not enough to kill him?!?!? :D I mean like i made a mistake, the biggest mistake i made this game, to not realise Koshi is a parity cop with checks on DMB and Slam. Yeah i missed it. But like if i am mafia with DMB, i make the deduction that Koshi is a power role (knowing DMB is mafia), and then i do not kill him?? I think it's a very absurd claim to say i am smart enough to figure out PR, but dumb enough not to kill them (nobody would have cared about DMB without full claim from Koshi lol). Sure him flipping PC would do the same thing, but you remove confirmed town from the game instead of what... Trfel, who just fucked up the DMB lynch all by himself? Also if i know that, why do i whiteknight Slam at that point?

Talking about that, Koshi also said i am mafia because i "bluehunted Slam". I never bluehunted Slam. I knew Slam is not blue when he ragequitted, the only reason i asked if he was blue is because if he claimed blue he would be mafia. It is just as simple as that, and Slam knows that as well. If Slam was blue he would have claimed instead of asking for replacement. If he says this is not true, then he is probably godfather or just really fucking stupid...

I also see people calling me mafia for "not voting the confirmed mafia". Well first of all that confirmed mafia is mostly confirmed because of me (as i whiteknighted Slam -- EVEN TO AZ!!!). Secondly, if we have one mislynch, who the fuck cares if i vote anyone in the three people containing two mafia? Why possibly would i do that as mafia? Mafia is all about posturing, why do i "un-pose"? It's a fucking stupid argument, apparently even AZ took that... idk what to think of that, i dont think he is mafia but if he is mafia he is mafia definitely for that. I had my reasons for "trying" that, scott passed. It doesnt mean he is town but it definitely doesnt make him mafia, which it could if he was not smart.

That's why i did the things i did. Lynch me if you lynch me, i am not mafia.

---------------------------------------------------
Now for why Mocsta is mafia though:

I could get into all shit what other people did but it's unfair, so i just stick with Mocsta.

On June 10 2024 12:29 Mocsta wrote:
Why does everyone keep posting combos

We don't have the flips for association

keep this in mind at first.
and this:
On June 10 2024 13:05 Mocsta wrote:
Is Sandroba at risk of inactivity modkill?

Last post greater than 48hrs ago.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote:
xxxx




and this:
On June 10 2024 18:31 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn keeps getting pushed by my subconscious

Can't articulate. Just keep getting vision he is the key to this game

And then it is where Mocsta starts 100% following Trfel.
First case on Vivax, no doubt, perfect case, gogo!

Then he has some interaction with sandroba. What's weird about that interaction is that [b]he has no intention in asking anything about Vivax, who is he voting for atm]/b], but rather about AZ and scott who noone is interested in.

And then it starts, warming up on rayn wagon. Now this is the biggest mistake he made. On we go and:
Super big defense on sandroba starting from his this post in his talk with Oats.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 16:59 GMT
#5206
i pressed post instead of preview... gonna continue.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 17:15 GMT
#5207
Then Mocsta votes for me, because Trfel thinks i am mafia.

Fro Mocsta's perspective:
1) sandroba isn't doing anything at all (based on convo with Oats)
2) rayn isn't doing anything but pushing sandroba

--> rayn is mafia....

First of all this is very fucking convoluted decision in the first place, but i kind of think a townie could make that.

What i don't think townie can do however, is this:
On June 11 2024 18:03 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 17:58 Trfel wrote:
The thing is, I'm not sold on sandroba being town.

I don't get much of an impression either way from his posts. But there is a distinct lack of them.

I'm...... going to vote for sandroba actually.
dude.. I'm crying here

Are you serious about following koshi and rayn, your scum reads on sandroba.

This town can't give.yoj the external validation you are craving.
Can you at least stay on rayn till we get more feedback from rest of town.. it's coming.. patience. A little bit more

that's all he has? this is 100% mafia agenda knowing sandrobas alignment.
Furthermore:
On June 11 2024 22:14 Mocsta wrote:
I can't vote Sandro because of rayn being on the train
r

Okay.. but then, when the thread sentiment shifts, and Trfel votes for sandroba (real kicker):
On June 11 2024 23:34 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 23:14 sandroba wrote:
I mean I suppose dmb is not 100% to be scum, just very likely. If I'm wrong about any of these I think the remaining has to be within Oats/AZ/scott? But they all have done things that make it hard to believe they are mafia. I guess oats and AZ could pull it off if they are just next level scum.
I think the best way to unite town is to have 2 wagons to gauge buy in and then merge into one wagon (somehow...)

I will join my town reads if it leads to majority

My town reads are
Trfel
Oats
Sandroba
Az
Vivax

And I'm willing to work with scott

This doesnt even go with what he last said, and then the story changes again:
On June 12 2024 02:59 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 12 2024 02:07 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 02:04 scott31337 wrote:
On June 12 2024 01:31 Mocsta wrote:
Anyways dmb treat me as blue macosta

Is vivax still your scum read,?

As in you both are calling each other scum?


Yes - and there's three theories I have

1. Mafia DMB saw the claim believed the claim told scum buddies of the claim - scum team thought Marv as more of a threat - Mafia DMB keeps posting about the claim in the thread

2. DMB is town

3. Mafia thought the claim was fake

Which makes the most sense?

There *HAS* to be scum between DMB/Sandroba.. im going to lose my hair if both are town

Has to be scum between dmb/sandro
Votes rayn
you're better than that

my pov:

rayn is guaranteed
has to be scum between dmb/sandro


as for whoever noted the ZERO interactions between dmb/sandro.. like both are afk

lets check who they have talked to (either question to player; or quoted the player)

to be honest, im mostly surprised sandroba has not interacted with AZ this cycle.. doesnt feel legit so i double checked the filter and its true

sandroba
-> oats: d1 no, d2 yes
-> trfel: d1 yes, d2 yes
-> rsoultin: d1 yes
-> koshi: d2 yes
--> scott: d1 yes, d2 yes
-> dmb: d1 no, d2 no
-> slam: d1 no, d2 yes
-> marv: d1 yes
-> kelsi3r: d1 yes
-> mocsta: d1 yes, d2 yes
-> vivax: d1 yes, d2 no
-> az: d1 yes, d2 no


dmb
-> oats: d1 yes, d2 no
-> trfel: d1 yes, d2 yes
-> rsoultin: d1 yes
-> koshi: d2 yes
--> scott: d1 yes, d2 yes
-> sandroba: d1 no, d2 no
-> slam: d1 no, d2 no
-> marv: d1 yes
-> kelsi3r: d1 no
-> mocsta: d1 yes, d2 yes
-> vivax: d1 yes, d2 yes
-> az: d1 yes, d2 yes

notice this post.
"rayn is guaranteed mafia, there has to be mafia within sandroba and dmb".
It's a no contest, when he reads sandroba as town.....
me and dmb are mafia.
where is the argument on that? why point out a stupid connection that he said he is not ding in the first place????

why leave ME, his biggest scumread out, of the chart that is supposed to POINT OUT WHO I AM MAFIA WITH??????????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 17:16 GMT
#5208
Remember:

On June 10 2024 12:29 Mocsta wrote:
Why does everyone keep posting combos
We don't have the flips for association
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 19 2024 17:26 GMT
#5209
On June 20 2024 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
can someone show me what is the bbcode to link something into the text?

Idki myself, sorry
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 19 2024 17:30 GMT
#5210
On June 20 2024 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna first say this, i don't know if it means anything to anyone and i really don't care but i am gonna say it anyways. For the past games since i rolled mafia, i have either not been able to play really, because i have been killed on N1-N2, or i have been called mafia by pretty much everyone in the obs QT at least (thankfully players in those games have been way better than obs QT).

So i decided to post in a way that i have been flamed for -- for thinking that type of posting comes from mafia, especially in the last game's obs QT. Notice that this is not saying i am playing intentionally bad, i just leave things that dont matter unsaid, and if i dont want to, or feel like to talk with someone i wont. This includes also stuff like no activity on weekends (also because i had no time past couple of weekends), only thing i didn't get to yet this game, is making arbitrary lists of no use, but i'll get to that next game.

I dont really wanna talk about D1 or N1 because unless scott is mafia, everything is just a waste of space, and if scott is mafia then i am not mafia so who the fuck cares.

I really had my most enjoyable times in this game D2-N2 talking with AZ, while a big lot of it was just him calling me mafia. But we DID have some nice conversations!! I again lost interest at some point when Trfel started calling me mafia with stuff like "you have not said anything smart", then i counter with "look Trfel, even if these things are wrong they are pretty damn smart -- backed up by other people, mainly AZ", and his response is "you havent said anything smart".... Maybe i am too old, but i dont really have any interest talking to rocks anymore, let alone convincing them.

I don't understand where this thing is coming from, that i am trying to take so "scummy credit" from sandroba's lynch (mainly pushed by mocsta)? It is literally bullshit argument. The only thing i have ever said about that, is that i pushed sandroba when everyone was on vivax, while telling (AZ) that case on vivax is bad. Idk how i am "using my credit in different way than Koshi is". it doesnt even make any sense.

Only way Koshi thought DMB is mafia is because he had a check, and i told Slam is 100% town. Just read the game, you can read it there, because Koshi thought Slam is mafia!! Then people (Koshi too!!!) start claiming that me, and me alone (apparently) was the reason DMB didn't get lynched D3. Sure, if you wanna call me mafia for not getting Koshi's soft claim, then yeah you can blame me. Here is the votecount at the time i voted though:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2024 09:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count

Vivax(3): AlphaZero, Trfel, raynpelikoneet
AlphaZero (2); Scott31337, Mocsta, Mocsta, Vivax, die_meatbaby, Vivax, Mocsta,
Scott31337
die_meatbaby (1): Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Mocsta, Scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Vivax
Trfel (1): Alakaslam
Scott31337 (1): Trfel, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, AlphaZero, die_meatbaby
Mocsta (0): die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Vivax

Not Voting (1): Mocsta

With 3 votes, Vivax is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


I clearly said i need to go, and i will not vote for vivax over DMB (before my vote here).
AZ told me to go to sleep and not worry about it, which is the biggest reason i town read him, and that's the reason i voted for vivax over him. I do not think he would do that as mafia, rather than get me to vote for vivax to save himself. It was a nice play if he actually did it as mafia, but i don't think so, also as i said before my vote, all the scummy people were voting for AZ (mocsta, DMB, scott).

I did not vote for vivax to save dmb, i voted vivax to save AZ, when the sentiment already turned into vivax vs AZ. I dont know why Koshi is blaming me for that, when basically everyone else is more to "blame".... I made a decision between my two town reads, AZ read more town.

It's also a bit confusing that at least Koshi seemed to be thinking, that i managed to figure out he is a power role enough to roleblock him, but not enough to kill him?!?!? :D I mean like i made a mistake, the biggest mistake i made this game, to not realise Koshi is a parity cop with checks on DMB and Slam. Yeah i missed it. But like if i am mafia with DMB, i make the deduction that Koshi is a power role (knowing DMB is mafia), and then i do not kill him?? I think it's a very absurd claim to say i am smart enough to figure out PR, but dumb enough not to kill them (nobody would have cared about DMB without full claim from Koshi lol). Sure him flipping PC would do the same thing, but you remove confirmed town from the game instead of what... Trfel, who just fucked up the DMB lynch all by himself? Also if i know that, why do i whiteknight Slam at that point?

Talking about that, Koshi also said i am mafia because i "bluehunted Slam". I never bluehunted Slam. I knew Slam is not blue when he ragequitted, the only reason i asked if he was blue is because if he claimed blue he would be mafia. It is just as simple as that, and Slam knows that as well. If Slam was blue he would have claimed instead of asking for replacement. If he says this is not true, then he is probably godfather or just really fucking stupid...

I also see people calling me mafia for "not voting the confirmed mafia". Well first of all that confirmed mafia is mostly confirmed because of me (as i whiteknighted Slam -- EVEN TO AZ!!!). Secondly, if we have one mislynch, who the fuck cares if i vote anyone in the three people containing two mafia? Why possibly would i do that as mafia? Mafia is all about posturing, why do i "un-pose"? It's a fucking stupid argument, apparently even AZ took that... idk what to think of that, i dont think he is mafia but if he is mafia he is mafia definitely for that. I had my reasons for "trying" that, scott passed. It doesnt mean he is town but it definitely doesnt make him mafia, which it could if he was not smart.

That's why i did the things i did. Lynch me if you lynch me, i am not mafia.

---------------------------------------------------
Now for why Mocsta is mafia though:

I could get into all shit what other people did but it's unfair, so i just stick with Mocsta.

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 12:29 Mocsta wrote:
Why does everyone keep posting combos

We don't have the flips for association

keep this in mind at first.
and this:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 13:05 Mocsta wrote:
Is Sandroba at risk of inactivity modkill?

Last post greater than 48hrs ago.

On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote:
xxxx




and this:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 18:31 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn keeps getting pushed by my subconscious

Can't articulate. Just keep getting vision he is the key to this game

And then it is where Mocsta starts 100% following Trfel.
First case on Vivax, no doubt, perfect case, gogo!

Then he has some interaction with sandroba. What's weird about that interaction is that [b]he has no intention in asking anything about Vivax, who is he voting for atm]/b], but rather about AZ and scott who noone is interested in.

And then it starts, warming up on rayn wagon. Now this is the biggest mistake he made. On we go and:
Super big defense on sandroba starting from his this post in his talk with Oats.

This is why I usually sheep this man even if it is to hell 😅
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 17:32 GMT
#5211
Then he starts getting around:
On June 12 2024 02:07 Mocsta wrote:
There *HAS* to be scum between DMB/Sandroba.. im going to lose my hair if both are town

[QUOTE]On June 12 2024 09:22 Mocsta wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 12 2024 09:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 12 2024 09:14 Mocsta wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 12 2024 09:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Does that mean then you think DMB is town, if mafia "has chosen" to lynch sandroba?[/QUOTE]I don't think it's set in stone.

There was much better push pull lynch resistance today, although majority from my town reads.

Maybe I have the game flipped upside down. I can cop that on the chin. But maybe I am reading the game by Poe well too

In that case was dmb a legit counter wagon?.. I don't believe so. Dmb wagon never picked up and never got buy in to pick up so I don' believe the game go to the point of truly testing this.

Mafia controlled this vote and sandroba is a mislynch.
That's my take.

The only small BS reality I could tinfoil entertain is sandroba was legit modkill and scum wanted bus cred [/QUOTE]
Thane why do you even say "one of DMB/sandroba is mafia", because in your world sandroba is NOT MAFIA!!![/QUOTE]I don't say that. I have 4 reasons for sandroba to be town and the primary was trust in az.. sandroba is in my town Poe , and stealing. From your book, the caveat is at the bottom of my poe

Lots of skim reading by you continuously

Why everyone else ignores, Idk[/QUOTE]
Literally you said that when you put him in town list.
[QUOTE]On June 12 2024 10:59 Mocsta wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 12 2024 10:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 12 2024 10:50 Mocsta wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 12 2024 10:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 12 2024 10:39 Mocsta wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 12 2024 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:

sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam
die_meatbaby (3): Vivax, AlphaZero, sandroba
raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta,
Vivax (0):
Koshi (0):
scott31337 (0):
[/QUOTE]in my world.view sandroba is more likely to flip town and the by votes I need to look into slam and what led him to +1 sandroba[/QUOTE]
Why are you not coloring Sandro green[/QUOTE]Cos he's not lock

He's not null but I won't go to death with him like I would with you
[/QUOTE]
But you colored rayn and koshi red with the assumption that Sandro is green[/QUOTE]ermmm. If I understand right

You believe I associate Rayn/koshi as scum be ause they are voting snadroba?

If so..that's not the case

They are red to me because of approach to d2
. Sandroba is part of that because of their votes, but it's more than that too..contributions to culture, inauthentic takes, no big dick energy etc
[/QUOTE]
Then during N2 Mocsta's p16 of filter is just... fucking disgusting... Just to throw everything away as soon as an opportunity reaches him.

Koshi town, rayn town, Vivax mafia.
Just to drop that the next day.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 17:33 GMT
#5212
yeah dont know where that got fucked up and i dont care...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 17:35 GMT
#5213
Like N2 Mocsta is literally townreading me and Koshi for the same reason he scumread us D2, our push on sandroba. Because that's all that both of us did, and that's the biggest reason he is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 17:35 GMT
#5214
You believe I associate Rayn/koshi as scum be ause they are voting snadroba?

If so..that's not the case

They are red to me because of approach to d2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 17:39 GMT
#5215
He already said at least i am bussing, that's clearly to be seen his D2 posts. The only reason why he would/should change his mind as town is... well there is no reason...

As mafia it makes sense, because he wants to be in good moods with the people like Trfel who have influence (and Koshi as later). It is so ¨transparent it almost makes me laugh... because like look at the fucking filter of his???
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 17:40 GMT
#5216
FUCKING SIMPLE WORDS.
"rayn is always mafia, sandroba could be mafia with rayn. never voting anyone but rayn"
sandroba flips mafia --> "ohhh maybe rayn is town"

D2 Mocsta tried really hard going against town, rayn and koshi. period.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 17:50 GMT
#5217
and people are telling me i am not reading this game...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 17:50 GMT
#5218
I have a meeting in 10mins, be back soon.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 17:53 GMT
#5219
You are bad Koshi and i hate i wasted my second mason on you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 17:55 GMT
#5220
On June 20 2024 02:30 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2024 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna first say this, i don't know if it means anything to anyone and i really don't care but i am gonna say it anyways. For the past games since i rolled mafia, i have either not been able to play really, because i have been killed on N1-N2, or i have been called mafia by pretty much everyone in the obs QT at least (thankfully players in those games have been way better than obs QT).

So i decided to post in a way that i have been flamed for -- for thinking that type of posting comes from mafia, especially in the last game's obs QT. Notice that this is not saying i am playing intentionally bad, i just leave things that dont matter unsaid, and if i dont want to, or feel like to talk with someone i wont. This includes also stuff like no activity on weekends (also because i had no time past couple of weekends), only thing i didn't get to yet this game, is making arbitrary lists of no use, but i'll get to that next game.

I dont really wanna talk about D1 or N1 because unless scott is mafia, everything is just a waste of space, and if scott is mafia then i am not mafia so who the fuck cares.

I really had my most enjoyable times in this game D2-N2 talking with AZ, while a big lot of it was just him calling me mafia. But we DID have some nice conversations!! I again lost interest at some point when Trfel started calling me mafia with stuff like "you have not said anything smart", then i counter with "look Trfel, even if these things are wrong they are pretty damn smart -- backed up by other people, mainly AZ", and his response is "you havent said anything smart".... Maybe i am too old, but i dont really have any interest talking to rocks anymore, let alone convincing them.

I don't understand where this thing is coming from, that i am trying to take so "scummy credit" from sandroba's lynch (mainly pushed by mocsta)? It is literally bullshit argument. The only thing i have ever said about that, is that i pushed sandroba when everyone was on vivax, while telling (AZ) that case on vivax is bad. Idk how i am "using my credit in different way than Koshi is". it doesnt even make any sense.

Only way Koshi thought DMB is mafia is because he had a check, and i told Slam is 100% town. Just read the game, you can read it there, because Koshi thought Slam is mafia!! Then people (Koshi too!!!) start claiming that me, and me alone (apparently) was the reason DMB didn't get lynched D3. Sure, if you wanna call me mafia for not getting Koshi's soft claim, then yeah you can blame me. Here is the votecount at the time i voted though:
On June 15 2024 09:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count

Vivax(3): AlphaZero, Trfel, raynpelikoneet
AlphaZero (2); Scott31337, Mocsta, Mocsta, Vivax, die_meatbaby, Vivax, Mocsta,
Scott31337
die_meatbaby (1): Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Mocsta, Scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Vivax
Trfel (1): Alakaslam
Scott31337 (1): Trfel, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, AlphaZero, die_meatbaby
Mocsta (0): die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Vivax

Not Voting (1): Mocsta

With 3 votes, Vivax is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


I clearly said i need to go, and i will not vote for vivax over DMB (before my vote here).
AZ told me to go to sleep and not worry about it, which is the biggest reason i town read him, and that's the reason i voted for vivax over him. I do not think he would do that as mafia, rather than get me to vote for vivax to save himself. It was a nice play if he actually did it as mafia, but i don't think so, also as i said before my vote, all the scummy people were voting for AZ (mocsta, DMB, scott).

I did not vote for vivax to save dmb, i voted vivax to save AZ, when the sentiment already turned into vivax vs AZ. I dont know why Koshi is blaming me for that, when basically everyone else is more to "blame".... I made a decision between my two town reads, AZ read more town.

It's also a bit confusing that at least Koshi seemed to be thinking, that i managed to figure out he is a power role enough to roleblock him, but not enough to kill him?!?!? :D I mean like i made a mistake, the biggest mistake i made this game, to not realise Koshi is a parity cop with checks on DMB and Slam. Yeah i missed it. But like if i am mafia with DMB, i make the deduction that Koshi is a power role (knowing DMB is mafia), and then i do not kill him?? I think it's a very absurd claim to say i am smart enough to figure out PR, but dumb enough not to kill them (nobody would have cared about DMB without full claim from Koshi lol). Sure him flipping PC would do the same thing, but you remove confirmed town from the game instead of what... Trfel, who just fucked up the DMB lynch all by himself? Also if i know that, why do i whiteknight Slam at that point?

Talking about that, Koshi also said i am mafia because i "bluehunted Slam". I never bluehunted Slam. I knew Slam is not blue when he ragequitted, the only reason i asked if he was blue is because if he claimed blue he would be mafia. It is just as simple as that, and Slam knows that as well. If Slam was blue he would have claimed instead of asking for replacement. If he says this is not true, then he is probably godfather or just really fucking stupid...

I also see people calling me mafia for "not voting the confirmed mafia". Well first of all that confirmed mafia is mostly confirmed because of me (as i whiteknighted Slam -- EVEN TO AZ!!!). Secondly, if we have one mislynch, who the fuck cares if i vote anyone in the three people containing two mafia? Why possibly would i do that as mafia? Mafia is all about posturing, why do i "un-pose"? It's a fucking stupid argument, apparently even AZ took that... idk what to think of that, i dont think he is mafia but if he is mafia he is mafia definitely for that. I had my reasons for "trying" that, scott passed. It doesnt mean he is town but it definitely doesnt make him mafia, which it could if he was not smart.

That's why i did the things i did. Lynch me if you lynch me, i am not mafia.

---------------------------------------------------
Now for why Mocsta is mafia though:

I could get into all shit what other people did but it's unfair, so i just stick with Mocsta.

On June 10 2024 12:29 Mocsta wrote:
Why does everyone keep posting combos

We don't have the flips for association

keep this in mind at first.
and this:
On June 10 2024 13:05 Mocsta wrote:
Is Sandroba at risk of inactivity modkill?

Last post greater than 48hrs ago.

On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote:
xxxx




and this:
On June 10 2024 18:31 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn keeps getting pushed by my subconscious

Can't articulate. Just keep getting vision he is the key to this game

And then it is where Mocsta starts 100% following Trfel.
First case on Vivax, no doubt, perfect case, gogo!

Then he has some interaction with sandroba. What's weird about that interaction is that [b]he has no intention in asking anything about Vivax, who is he voting for atm]/b], but rather about AZ and scott who noone is interested in.

And then it starts, warming up on rayn wagon. Now this is the biggest mistake he made. On we go and:
Super big defense on sandroba starting from his this post in his talk with Oats.

This is why I usually sheep this man even if it is to hell 😅

Pretty sure you would have been lynched already if i was mafia.
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