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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 17:59 GMT
#5221
I mean like i am not claiming anyone is mafia for calling me mafia, hell i would have to call all game mafia for that. But i am not playing bad, i am just playing intentionally obtuse(?) by this point, i dont care where it takes me, i dont care what you do about it. I was just proving a point for myself. That's it. If town loses one game for me proving a point for myself (that i have), then so be it.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 19 2024 18:11 GMT
#5222
Rayn -
On the chance that you are not mafia -

You are sure AZ is town?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 18:29 GMT
#5223
On June 20 2024 03:11 scott31337 wrote:
Rayn -
On the chance that you are not mafia -

You are sure AZ is town?

Not 100% sure.
I am basing my townread mainly on the fact that when D3 he was up for lynch with Vivax, he told me to not care about who to vote and to go to sleep when it could be fatal to him. I know it's flimsy, but atm i don't think he is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 18:30 GMT
#5224
let me continue on my post now
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:10 GMT
#5225
On June 14 2024 10:25 Mocsta wrote:
I'm not playing anymore

Go ahead and vote me off

Last post
Which you can reread after my town flip

I am not voting this cycle either as a fuck you to Rayn
He's just butthurt he got a few votes last cycle. That's it

Putting this game on pause for half a day was really good to crystalize some thoughts

Firstly, I stand by this for post game that the rayn/az mason is an important parcel.of information for how d2 went down when talking about bussing optionality.
We very likely expect d1 mafia received whisper and did not use.
Presumably it is the same d3 as no one has said they are masoned.

I conclude d2 Rayn/az is either town town or one is mafia.

Why is this relevant.
We don't know what was said but we know both players must remain increasingly consistent and cautious compared to theead-only players.

My point is this. I thought alpha townread sandroba regardless of what was in filter
Even Rayn my biggest antagonist agrees he thought alpha townread sandroba because of filter.

I don't believe Rayn is scum at all. He will say it's to save my neck I will say it's because I have seen what I expect from town Rayn which is an intelligent player that likes his butt being licked real clean and I just won't do that. I never agreed that one post was a good reason to lynch sandroba and here I am now burning as if a witch when I bleed the same as the rest of yoh. That's precisely why I think Rayn is town.

Alpha is scum.
His game is a fancy take on poilicy ynch.. you are not playing with correct principles.. even burn as a witch Rayn does not take it that far.

Alpha because he started captivating with some red flags has been a big contributor for the shit town culture of d1 and d2. Again I stand by that if somehow he was town.
His game has already allowed him an out which he throws out ready to go.. again. Town might like this because it feels good yet who else is doing this? Fuckn no one else because it's scummy and defensive instead of solving the game.

I'm not sure why koshi thought alpha rage fuxk you was legit. The post was clearly manicured which completely goes against the idea of rage.

Alphazero is my top scum read. I don't know who he is partnered with. Probably one of dmb or vivax.

I don't know how to choose. I agree with sandroba here who agrees with trfel that dmb could be beneficial to take out regardless of alignment when you to the last scum. Not this lynch.

Lastly Scott who is controversial. I spent this morning reviewing past game. Firstly his games are really low post count yet even going to d4 mafia in some his style/meta is very clear..

Again read this through eyes of town once I flip. Scott is town.
His mafia game is fundamentally very different and more narrative driven.

Yes Scott has shifted since n2 and I believe it's completely town plausible based on:
1. He feels vindicated with sandroba lynch
2. Was assuming less heat in him accordingly
3. Felt more puzzle pieces in place to solve game

It's a natural confidence boost.
The mental state 12 hrs ago no idea.. like trfel i ignore it

I will vote alpha for those who see the light

I have no response for Rayn. I'm town I've been completely honest with him and he is tunneled. I don't have the time to prove to him I'm town so here I burn.. like it doesn't matter what I say to Rayn. He won't take it I and accept.

Rayn again because of this. I believe you are town. Yep that's the type of player I look at you as even though yes I respect you are very good.

[B##vote: alphazero



The alpha push pull plus mason logs combination should not
be ignored.

[/b]
Where did this all go? Where did this even start off? There is not even a real reason for anyone to be mafia in Mocsta's bolded part. I know you AZ are sucker for shit like that, so it doesnt surprise me you townread him after scumreading him N2.

On June 14 2024 22:39 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2024 21:26 AlphaZero wrote:
Koshi could be mafia because he is kind of subtly trying to pit me and Rayn against each other here.

Usually this guy likes to fork town circles.

Unless I’m completely pocketed I think Rayn town. So he is kind of undermining collaboration here.

He’s also kind of doing it on a broader level with changing reads all the time.


Just noting for later.
I was expecting koshi to be shot
I'm really surprised by the oats kill,.no disrespect to oats there either.

Note, I see reasons koshi could do that as town as well. Especially if he foresees a mafia!Rayn or az lunch being extremely difficult to achieve.

I'm somewhat warming up to you associatively
1. Trfel stuff today
2. Your change on me is plausible
3. Associatively i'm imagining a world where mafia!dmb is comfortable dropping 'heat' on town!az because you are a Smurf

I can drop this in pursuit of #3

Dmb is playing too scummy to be scum and has to be lynched
- filter reads disengaged throughout
- filter is conclusions, no method to reach conclusion
- filter is confident on all things flipped.kelsier and sandroba and I suspect Scott

I just feel bad Cos it was literally a pile on 1 hr a go. I hope she's willing to play again I really.do

##unvote
##vote: dmb


But he thinks AZ is mafia because of???
Then votes for DMB, which again is the thread sentiment of the day.
Like come the fuck on, then accuses me of "not voting for 100% mafia" which btw DMB even was not, when she was for me yes, but like.... wtf.. Make a case on AZ and vote for DMB? Sure bro

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:11 GMT
#5226
On June 15 2024 00:09 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2024 00:05 scott31337 wrote:
I'm still down for AZ if anyone wants to come back, but I'm skeptical. Although I was happy DMB switched. I was thinking last night, who could I possibly convince? Maybe DMB maybe Koshi. I didn't think Mocsta would change though. Although Mocsta did once AZ was ahead. Hmmm

I have a couple hours and then I'll be doing secondary job stuff until a few hours before deadline.

I switched before I saw a vote count

I thought I still had 5

Not that it matters or is proveable

If you think I'm scummy for switching on your tunneled read that's nuts

I didn't say I said tunneled because there's 2 players left

Yeah I get az is your preference, but I have some doubts which you can agree or disagree with

Like .. you need to explain please why you are ok dmb jumped on az

I take it you are caught up

Do you townread dmb based on past few pages?

calling scott mafia for what he did, just to switch off dmb into AZ later,
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:13 GMT
#5227
idk i am too tired to write, Mocsta has just been following the thread sentiment (trfel) and we have been stupid.

Lynch Mocsta after me pls.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:14 GMT
#5228
##vote Mocsta
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:15 GMT
#5229
posturiiiinnnggggg!!!! like a biatch
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:19 GMT
#5230
Why are you mafia AZ, in that Mocsta's read?
What of that says "AZ is mafia"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:20 GMT
#5231
AZ is mafia beacause _________________________ ?

Mocsta can also fill that blank for the time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:20 GMT
#5232
"Alpha is scum.
His game is a fancy take on poilicy ynch.. you are not playing with correct principles.. even burn as a witch Rayn does not take it that far.

Alpha because he started captivating with some red flags has been a big contributor for the shit town culture of d1 and d2. Again I stand by that if somehow he was town.
His game has already allowed him an out which he throws out ready to go.. again. Town might like this because it feels good yet who else is doing this? Fuckn no one else because it's scummy and defensive instead of solving the game.

I'm not sure why koshi thought alpha rage fuxk you was legit. The post was clearly manicured which completely goes against the idea of rage.

Alphazero is my top scum read. I don't know who he is partnered with. Probably one of dmb or vivax."
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:22 GMT
#5233
How does it feel like to be "conversion" or "ve"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:23 GMT
#5234
On June 20 2024 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How does it feel like to be "conversion" or "ve"?

i would be fucking offended tbh
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:29 GMT
#5235
All of you are bad, except Mocsta, who is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:35 GMT
#5236
On June 20 2024 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
let me continue on my post now

i didnt really continue, but ffs..
is mocsta ever first pushing his read?
is mocsta ever pushing his read?
is mocsta ever like... doing anything proactive since N2? And those things before that were not proactive at all.

I will dig up the fucking quotes and shit tomorrow if you are too lazy to see yourselves.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:37 GMT
#5237
Mocsta was all Trfel +1 with "rayn is mafia 100%" and even that fell apart at a convenient time.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 19 2024 19:38 GMT
#5238
At least you gave it one last go rayn

*Clap clap*

An admirable numerous submission
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:42 GMT
#5239
On June 20 2024 04:38 Mocsta wrote:
At least you gave it one last go rayn

*Clap clap*

An admirable numerous submission

ball is on your court, if not today, tomorrow.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 19 2024 19:43 GMT
#5240
are you just so 100% million percent sure of me being mafia that you have no doubt in a million years, so you can act like this towards me?
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