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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 16:26 GMT
#2108
On March 06 2024 01:20 CopCake wrote:
Like, I want to rule out that vivax is not mafia with two big names.

He's basically been the center of attention would scum do that willingly like he did. I don't think so
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 16:29 GMT
#2112
On March 06 2024 01:26 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 01:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:23 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:21 Vivax wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:14 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:12 Vivax wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:10 CopCake wrote:
@HAPPA AND TRFEL

I have a small job for you.

Do you think this vivax from this game:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?user=Vivax

and this misslynched vivax day 1:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/618165-winter-warfare-mafia?user=Vivax

is the same?

Why would he claim something SO DANGEROUS, if he knows that, at the end of the day, people can be crazy enough to misslynch him? even if a claim of that caliber that is stupid?

Vivax, did you ever considered that idk, any other blue roles, that maybe got into the hands of someone insane, could also claim or soft claim something? Did you ever consider the fuck fest your claim would create?


The fuckfest can be over if you allow it to.

Why are you shielding Trfel and why don‘t you suspect Slam if you think his claim was fake.

Those are better questions


Slam could have want to out the game and the claim is pretty bad. Considering it serious is stupid.

But this is a theory.

Sup Slam, are you for real the cop?


Okay and Trfel just vanishing when he‘s typically a high WIM townie ?


You, dead on day 1 lynched, 7 pages.

Tfrel, killed night 4, 10 pages.


Why do people picture Tfrel someone who posts 24/7?


Don‘t know you tell me.

That still doesn‘t explain why you have to prevent him from accumulating votes.


Because he is not part of the Toby club, is neutral, and his reads are not based or influenced of "Oh Marv said this, so my read will be similar"

You know he was the MVP the game dead, chez and rayn were mafia.

You do not acknowledging this is suspicious.

I don't understand what your saying. What is toby club. And wouldn't being neutral be a more likely scum trait?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 16:38 GMT
#2120
On March 06 2024 01:33 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 01:29 iamperfection wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:26 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:23 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:21 Vivax wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:14 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:12 Vivax wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:10 CopCake wrote:
@HAPPA AND TRFEL

I have a small job for you.

Do you think this vivax from this game:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?user=Vivax

and this misslynched vivax day 1:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/618165-winter-warfare-mafia?user=Vivax

is the same?

Why would he claim something SO DANGEROUS, if he knows that, at the end of the day, people can be crazy enough to misslynch him? even if a claim of that caliber that is stupid?

Vivax, did you ever considered that idk, any other blue roles, that maybe got into the hands of someone insane, could also claim or soft claim something? Did you ever consider the fuck fest your claim would create?


The fuckfest can be over if you allow it to.

Why are you shielding Trfel and why don‘t you suspect Slam if you think his claim was fake.

Those are better questions


Slam could have want to out the game and the claim is pretty bad. Considering it serious is stupid.

But this is a theory.

Sup Slam, are you for real the cop?


Okay and Trfel just vanishing when he‘s typically a high WIM townie ?


You, dead on day 1 lynched, 7 pages.

Tfrel, killed night 4, 10 pages.


Why do people picture Tfrel someone who posts 24/7?


Don‘t know you tell me.

That still doesn‘t explain why you have to prevent him from accumulating votes.


Because he is not part of the Toby club, is neutral, and his reads are not based or influenced of "Oh Marv said this, so my read will be similar"

You know he was the MVP the game dead, chez and rayn were mafia.

You do not acknowledging this is suspicious.

I don't understand what your saying. What is toby club. And wouldn't being neutral be a more likely scum trait?


There is this clique of big egos or people who consider themselves high level players.

In this list there is koshi, marv, rayn, dp at least.

They try to figure out if they are town or mafia first and continue from there. Problem is, some of them are pretty good at scum and can fool people (rayn)

This is where people like Tfrel shine, because he, by being neutral and not influenced, have more accurate reads.

The neutral you are talking about is a read like "well, i think he is scummy but..." which is not a neutral read, just bullshit post pretending to be a read.

So by asking trfel you are hoping to gain what?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 16:54 GMT
#2140
On March 06 2024 01:49 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 01:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:45 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:40 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:29 CopCake wrote:
Like, I dont understand why is it so bad to question Vivax claim.

I have the right to do it if I wanted to.


Okay so outside of the claim, how is vivax mafia


The claim itself is just stupid, how he wants tfrel dead considering the last game, I dont think he is scumhunting

His reads

On March 05 2024 23:13 Vivax wrote:
I think rayn has a decent chance to flip mafia by the way.
Cop says he can't be because he'd be angrier but there's nothing that says he isn't simply more restrained in this game.

I'm moving cop out of the mafia pool just because of what Koshi said about her and good intentions. I still think she was struggling back then and took way too long to join the chorus calling my claim awful.

Iamperfection has dropped off a lot and looks a lot like Oats at this point. I just don't see any motivation to find the right lynch here. Erratic play. I believe Oats still didn't deliver an estimation of marv and Sandroba like I asked.

I don't want to lynch Palmar. I think marv is doing jack shit, and he didn't try to run for mayor for it. The Palmar vote was his first meaningful contribution, and everyone treated it like some high priest tossed a piece of metal from a pyramid and they went wild chasing it while screeching like a bunch of teenies at a rock concert.

I also think marv is kinda avoidant of DP and I know that marv has to fear DP if he's mafia. Him masoning Sandoba over DP is bad and might explain DPs lower effort.

MZ, Rels reasonable and pro-town all around but also a bit synthetic and lacking emotion for now. Not on the table for D1 I think and they have shown that they know what it takes to not lose to a casino.

DMB I think town. I liked most of the placements in her list and she had a golden opportunity to fall into her meta of antagonizing me just for fun and blending in with others doing so. I don't think she'd want a JK as mayor as mafia either.

That's about it for now. Otherwise:

Hapa joined discord and didn't post at all so I think it's due we make him the main secondary wagon that I can kill but I also need town's consent for it. Jealous works too, just make it visible please.


and an hour later

On March 06 2024 00:10 Vivax wrote:
Slam, iamp, TTS, Hapa

Man this game is easy



read progressions are not ok



Out of curiosity, have you played with vivax before?
And secondly, have you read the game you linked earlier?


Yeah, I have played with Vivax and yeah, that is why I said Tfrel MVP there.

So with what you linked, how is that not typical vivax? He literally does that that’s vivax


I do not understand his claim, when he knows he might suffer the danger of getting misslynched anyways because the claim is just so bad to be true. Which makes me believe that he could be mafia with at least two big names.

I want to rule out that probability, as easy as that.

But we have established he is bad it doesn't make him scum.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 17:27 GMT
#2167
This has been talked to death.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 18:17 GMT
#2187
Why should.it be one sided.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 18:31 GMT
#2188
I want to just get rid of ve looking again. His thing about claims just seems like a way to not take a stance to me.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 18:41 GMT
#2191
On March 06 2024 03:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thoughts on DMB Iamp?

I don't think scum. Dmbs posts in that game I obser gave me scum goosebumps like the entire game and everyone called me dumb there and I was right. More gut then anything I can rationalize I do think posting that list at that time just because 1 person asked is more likely to come from town in the timing it did.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 18:42 GMT
#2193
I'm certainly not married to it just a feeling
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 18:46 GMT
#2197
On March 06 2024 03:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yall can narrow it down by removing me from lynch lists if you want. IF not I get it, but that would be winning move.

I don't want to
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 18:48 GMT
#2200
Was there a jester role snuck in that I wasn't aware of
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 18:59 GMT
#2208
You guys cant all have the same icon someone switch
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 19:21 GMT
#2220
On March 06 2024 04:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 03:41 iamperfection wrote:
On March 06 2024 03:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thoughts on DMB Iamp?

I don't think scum. Dmbs posts in that game I obser gave me scum goosebumps like the entire game and everyone called me dumb there and I was right. More gut then anything I can rationalize I do think posting that list at that time just because 1 person asked is more likely to come from town in the timing it did.

No thoughts about the content of the list at all?

Mafia tend to be hyper focused on what people ask so it’s not surprising to me that she did that

Not particularly. I don't think much of dmb as a player at this time skill wise feel like they are still learning
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 19:28 GMT
#2226
This fake claim assertion just boggles my mind. Like at least break it down how it happened if your trying to convince someone. Like can you go look at how it happened and when and see if you reach the same conclusion.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 19:36 GMT
#2233
On March 06 2024 04:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 04:28 iamperfection wrote:
This fake claim assertion just boggles my mind. Like at least break it down how it happened if your trying to convince someone. Like can you go look at how it happened and when and see if you reach the same conclusion.

Me? Are you asking me why I think Vivax the player fake-claims? I don't care if you guys believe it, I could even be wrong. That's why I'm not arguing or trying to convince anyone, it just feels fake as fuck to me, opportunistic. No one will next game say "Oh Vivax did this awful terrible fakeclaim last game" so there's no danger in him doing it as town this game. Maybe he was salty he got VT. I have no idea and I don't fucking care. It completely hobbles the town, claiming D1 so I prefer to believe that Vivax is better than that and is claiming to become mayor as a VT, because the alternative makes my soul cry.

Then he is town so who cares like what's the point.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 20:04 GMT
#2244
Vivax please clearly state your action in the thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 20:11 GMT
#2245
I leave come back for shenanigans later.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 21:49 GMT
#2292
That trfel vote is one of the scummiest vote posts I have ever seen.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 21:49 GMT
#2293
Have to think if it's just really really bad
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 21:54 GMT
#2297
Lets have some fun I'm voting trfel
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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