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Warfare themed. Who we fighting ? The bears be biting when they should be glowing, and I wonder what prevents them from showing.
Lately when I was busy snowblowing, I felt a bump in the ground and a chunk of fur was spat out accompanied by distinctive howling.
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Nah, no drama Might grab excerpts from other games and make nebulous references to irl events instead.
Hii Palmar.
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Lucien Lachance has disappeared but Cicero has arrived and locked the Wagonborn and Lydia into the coffin of the night mother, protectin them from harm while furiously pleasuring himself to the display.
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On November 23 2023 09:58 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2023 08:45 die_meatbaby wrote: I need to have Jacobstrangelove in every future game here. I can't play anymore without the short erotic summary after every day You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
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Hello.
On December 10 2023 12:49 sandroba wrote: Hi everyone, excited to be playing a game after being away from Mafia for so long! I believe I have some familiarity with most if not all players on the list, although I might be very outdated in accessing their meta.
So far we have Alakaslam who I feel is posting within what I expected, not leaning one way or the other based on his initial posts. I like the poking about smiles being sus, but at the same time, it's phrased as a question so there is a bit of avoidance in there as well. Again, not very telling.
For Trfel, some might say I'm nit-picking, but I don't like the self-demeaning tone about his performance right out of the gate. Also, some generic advice and deadlines which sounds like trying to say something just to fit in. This could be understandable because we are mostly trying to generate some content at this point and get the discussion going, but this advice at this point so far away from the deadline doesn't do us much good at face value or as a conversation starter. Leaning suspicious from what I've seen so far.
We have Trfel and Slam entering the thread rather casually in my opinion. This approach by Sandro sticks out as overthinking and doesn't really seem like he's attempting to form some kind of real contact with them. I don't like the phrasing in parts either (bolded).
'Posting within what I expected' comes out of the blue as you should be expectation-free if you don't know his alignment.
'Self-demeaning tone' is something I don't spot, where is the part of his filter that suggests that?
On December 10 2023 13:23 sandroba wrote: I remember him being a bit wacky, careless, and somewhat random. Always found him hard to access in terms of alignment, but mostly remember he goes into more self-preservation mode and tones it down when mafia. Not sure how much that still applies, but I found his initial posts care-free, with a bit of prodding which I kinda liked, but done in a lighthearted way which could just again be his care-free nature
This is a piece of pseudo-information as it doesn't really help in reaching a conclusion on Slam either.
Sandroba, are these posts your legitimate opinion or did you write them mostly with the intent of creating a discussion surrounding Trfels and Slams alignments?
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On December 10 2023 20:13 marvellosity wrote: If I came In the the thread first and had called out sandro’s post, I would think it was insane DP was calling me on it.
Just sayin.
I agree.
On December 10 2023 17:14 DarthPunk wrote:Hey guys, just got back from watching my nieces (they are obsessed with Bluey if anyone knows that show) but have been following along the thread while I was away. Show nested quote +On December 10 2023 12:03 Alakaslam wrote: Why aren't y'all instant and hanging on every second like my phoneposting ass? I liked Slams entry, seemed keen to be playing, I think slam probably could do that as mafia, but I think his alignment will work itself out along the lines of his engagement levels so wouldn't want to lynch him today. Show nested quote +On December 10 2023 12:03 Trfel wrote:Hi everyone, hope you have been well Excited for the 12 player game. Increases my chance of finding mafia to 27.2%, higher than my normal 25% average! Show nested quote +On December 10 2023 12:10 Trfel wrote: Also I should add, I could be wrong, but this seems like a heavy-EU player base in a game where the deadline is late at night for EU. So it's probably going to be important to be more organized and not rely on deadline shenanigans since people (hopefully) won't be around Unless there is some other solution to the Grackaroni deadline that people have discovered in my 3-year-plus absence. Show nested quote +On December 10 2023 12:40 Trfel wrote: How are you doing, Alakaslam? Anyone else around?
I do find it interesting that there is a mason mechanic this game. Not sure if there is any way to realistically use that to our advantage, but I guess it probably doesn't hurt? As a rule, I tend to associate entry to threads like this with mafia play (setup speculation particularly). Admittedly, it could be a case of a returning player trying to feel his way back into the thread, but the BS detector was going off big time. Show nested quote +On December 10 2023 12:49 sandroba wrote: Hi everyone, excited to be playing a game after being away from Mafia for so long! I believe I have some familiarity with most if not all players on the list, although I might be very outdated in accessing their meta.
So far we have Alakaslam who I feel is posting within what I expected, not leaning one way or the other based on his initial posts. I like the poking about smiles being sus, but at the same time, it's phrased as a question so there is a bit of avoidance in there as well. Again, not very telling.
For Trfel, some might say I'm nit-picking, but I don't like the self-demeaning tone about his performance right out of the gate. Also, some generic advice and deadlines which sounds like trying to say something just to fit in. This could be understandable because we are mostly trying to generate some content at this point and get the discussion going, but this advice at this point so far away from the deadline doesn't do us much good at face value or as a conversation starter. Leaning suspicious from what I've seen so far. The last paragraph of this post reflected my viewpoint at that point in the thread, I don't really like the slam stuff. Meh.Show nested quote +On December 10 2023 13:25 Trfel wrote:On December 10 2023 12:49 sandroba wrote: Hi everyone, excited to be playing a game after being away from Mafia for so long! I believe I have some familiarity with most if not all players on the list, although I might be very outdated in accessing their meta.
So far we have Alakaslam who I feel is posting within what I expected, not leaning one way or the other based on his initial posts. I like the poking about smiles being sus, but at the same time, it's phrased as a question so there is a bit of avoidance in there as well. Again, not very telling.
For Trfel, some might say I'm nit-picking, but I don't like the self-demeaning tone about his performance right out of the gate. Also, some generic advice and deadlines which sounds like trying to say something just to fit in. This could be understandable because we are mostly trying to generate some content at this point and get the discussion going, but this advice at this point so far away from the deadline doesn't do us much good at face value or as a conversation starter. Leaning suspicious from what I've seen so far. I guess instead of waiting I'll let the cat out of the bag, I'm impatient. This post seems very wishy-washy, non-committal, and pointless. The first paragraph doesn't really say anything of substance (not that it's wrong per se, just doesn't really contribute anything meaningful to the game). The second paragraph is the same way. To me, he seems to end with exactly no read (and next to no thoughts) on Alakaslam. There's even "I like the poking about smiles, but it's phrased as a question so there is avoidance as well" which seems like aggressive-but-with-a-heavy-grain-of-salt that is easy to say without actually committing to it. "Posting within what I expected" and "not leaning one way or the other based on initial posts" doesn't end up meaning much at all. The other thing I want to note is all of the caveats and grain of salts and backtracking in sandroba's post. Not exactly sure how to phrase what I mean, but see here, in red: On December 10 2023 12:49 sandroba wrote: So far we have Alakaslam who I feel is posting within what I expected, not leaning one way or the other based on his initial posts. I like the poking about smiles being sus, but at the same time, it's phrased as a question so there is a bit of avoidance in there as well. Again, not very telling.
For Trfel, some might say I'm nit-picking, but I don't like the self-demeaning tone about his performance right out of the gate. Also, some generic advice and deadlines which sounds like trying to say something just to fit in. This could be understandable because we are mostly trying to generate some content at this point and get the discussion going, but this advice at this point so far away from the deadline doesn't do us much good at face value or as a conversation starter. Leaning suspicious from what I've seen so far. He's shying away from saying something, like making a read and then backing off from it. Or giving a reason to doubt what he just said, or placing a limiter on it. For such a small post, it's riddled with it. To me, this comes across as trying to be non-committal and playing the "safe game" while making it look like you are saying things and trying to figure things out. The level 1 analysis of this is that a player is being aggressive early, not afraid to post and that would be good for Trfel. My initial feelings reading the post was that it felt forced, with a lot of generic statements to try and make Sandroba's post seeem worse than it was. I disagree that at the point of the game in which we are right now, that everything said needs to progress the game in a meaningful way. Sure, I would like that to be the case, but I also don't think that someone being non-committal is alignment indicative, in fact, someone being strongly committed early tends to make me lean mafia more than town, Town are trying to figure shit out at the start and are more curious than committed.
The bolded part from DP is a very backhanded way for him to 'begin' his suspicion arc of Trfel while potentially constructing himself a way of potentially distancing himself from Sandro by saying that he doesn't like the Slam bit in the same breath.
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On December 10 2023 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2023 18:04 DarthPunk wrote:On December 10 2023 18:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar pros town here. But what are you? What do you make of trfel? Town. Depends mostly on what he answers to your question towards him. So you'll have to wait for my read.
Where is said question and why do you need him to answer it?
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Palmar a bit too sure of himself in tone for my liking. Like he's got somebody lined up to be gifted a pair of shiny concrete boots, maybe a weak teammate under threat (which could be sandro).
He's very conscious of the Trfel/Sandro dichotomy here but not as motivated to deliver much explanation of his own as he is to appear motivated to lynch into it.
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Do you have a riddle for me Trfel?
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On December 10 2023 21:55 Trfel wrote:Mostly just this: Show nested quote +On December 10 2023 21:13 Vivax wrote:Hello. On December 10 2023 12:49 sandroba wrote: Hi everyone, excited to be playing a game after being away from Mafia for so long! I believe I have some familiarity with most if not all players on the list, although I might be very outdated in accessing their meta.
So far we have Alakaslam who I feel is posting within what I expected, not leaning one way or the other based on his initial posts. I like the poking about smiles being sus, but at the same time, it's phrased as a question so there is a bit of avoidance in there as well. Again, not very telling.
For Trfel, some might say I'm nit-picking, but I don't like the self-demeaning tone about his performance right out of the gate. Also, some generic advice and deadlines which sounds like trying to say something just to fit in. This could be understandable because we are mostly trying to generate some content at this point and get the discussion going, but this advice at this point so far away from the deadline doesn't do us much good at face value or as a conversation starter. Leaning suspicious from what I've seen so far. We have Trfel and Slam entering the thread rather casually in my opinion. This approach by Sandro sticks out as overthinking and doesn't really seem like he's attempting to form some kind of real contact with them. I don't like the phrasing in parts either (bolded). 'Posting within what I expected' comes out of the blue as you should be expectation-free if you don't know his alignment. 'Self-demeaning tone' is something I don't spot, where is the part of his filter that suggests that? On December 10 2023 13:23 sandroba wrote: I remember him being a bit wacky, careless, and somewhat random. Always found him hard to access in terms of alignment, but mostly remember he goes into more self-preservation mode and tones it down when mafia. Not sure how much that still applies, but I found his initial posts care-free, with a bit of prodding which I kinda liked, but done in a lighthearted way which could just again be his care-free nature This is a piece of pseudo-information as it doesn't really help in reaching a conclusion on Slam either. Sandroba, are these posts your legitimate opinion or did you write them mostly with the intent of creating a discussion surrounding Trfels and Slams alignments? That last question to sandroba. If he just says, "I wrote it just to create a discussion about Trfel's and Alakaslam's alignments" then what have you gained from this whole post? I guess I'm confused, if that is an acceptable answer, then why give it to him as an option, like it invalidates the whole purpose of asking the question, no?
It gives him an option to acknowledge it was a terrible post without saying it was a terrible post.
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On December 10 2023 22:00 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2023 21:55 Vivax wrote:On December 10 2023 21:55 Trfel wrote:On December 10 2023 21:50 Vivax wrote: Do you have a riddle for me Trfel? Mostly just this: On December 10 2023 21:13 Vivax wrote:Hello. On December 10 2023 12:49 sandroba wrote: Hi everyone, excited to be playing a game after being away from Mafia for so long! I believe I have some familiarity with most if not all players on the list, although I might be very outdated in accessing their meta.
So far we have Alakaslam who I feel is posting within what I expected, not leaning one way or the other based on his initial posts. I like the poking about smiles being sus, but at the same time, it's phrased as a question so there is a bit of avoidance in there as well. Again, not very telling.
For Trfel, some might say I'm nit-picking, but I don't like the self-demeaning tone about his performance right out of the gate. Also, some generic advice and deadlines which sounds like trying to say something just to fit in. This could be understandable because we are mostly trying to generate some content at this point and get the discussion going, but this advice at this point so far away from the deadline doesn't do us much good at face value or as a conversation starter. Leaning suspicious from what I've seen so far. We have Trfel and Slam entering the thread rather casually in my opinion. This approach by Sandro sticks out as overthinking and doesn't really seem like he's attempting to form some kind of real contact with them. I don't like the phrasing in parts either (bolded). 'Posting within what I expected' comes out of the blue as you should be expectation-free if you don't know his alignment. 'Self-demeaning tone' is something I don't spot, where is the part of his filter that suggests that? On December 10 2023 13:23 sandroba wrote: I remember him being a bit wacky, careless, and somewhat random. Always found him hard to access in terms of alignment, but mostly remember he goes into more self-preservation mode and tones it down when mafia. Not sure how much that still applies, but I found his initial posts care-free, with a bit of prodding which I kinda liked, but done in a lighthearted way which could just again be his care-free nature This is a piece of pseudo-information as it doesn't really help in reaching a conclusion on Slam either. Sandroba, are these posts your legitimate opinion or did you write them mostly with the intent of creating a discussion surrounding Trfels and Slams alignments? That last question to sandroba. If he just says, "I wrote it just to create a discussion about Trfel's and Alakaslam's alignments" then what have you gained from this whole post? I guess I'm confused, if that is an acceptable answer, then why give it to him as an option, like it invalidates the whole purpose of asking the question, no? It gives him an option to acknowledge it was a terrible post without saying it was a terrible post. What does that acknowledgment provide? Also, any thoughts on Alakaslam? I know he plays a bit on impulse but I still find it very strange how his thoughts followed the thread sentiment so directly.
It helps him unfreeze if he's mafia. Which helps me.
Slam looks okay. I don't think he's been following thread sentiment, just hanging around, posting random thoughts. Extremely laid back. Seems fine to me. It's like he's watching raindrops through a window of safety which suggests town.
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##Vote: raynpeelikoneet
Because I need an answer and HF conveniently voted.
What is Chez up to?
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On December 11 2023 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Finally arrived home. Reading until here so i don't miss anything: Show nested quote +On December 10 2023 21:30 Vivax wrote:On December 10 2023 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 10 2023 18:04 DarthPunk wrote:On December 10 2023 18:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar pros town here. But what are you? What do you make of trfel? Town. Depends mostly on what he answers to your question towards him. So you'll have to wait for my read. Where is said question and why do you need him to answer it? This: Show nested quote +On December 10 2023 17:10 DarthPunk wrote: Trfel, what kind of committed position would you reasonably expect sandroba to have at that point in the game?
Now at the time my position was sandroba doesn't look good (for reasons -- not exactly for his opener), Trfel looks nothing out of ordinary. However i am not the only player in the game, so i decided to see how Trfel deals with DP questioning him, without interfering at that point.
Do you have a take on Sandros posts?
Marv, does Koshi's vote on you affect your read on him?
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On December 11 2023 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 01:23 die_meatbaby wrote: Hello nice do play again. Didn't post anything and there are already votes. I will catch up in a few hours as soon as my shift is finished Vivax do you have any thoughts on this?
No.
Koshi kinda scummy though. You maybe too. Just gut atm.
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On December 11 2023 03:17 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 02:57 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2023 01:23 die_meatbaby wrote: Hello nice do play again. Didn't post anything and there are already votes. I will catch up in a few hours as soon as my shift is finished Vivax do you have any thoughts on this? No. Koshi kinda scummy though. You maybe too. Just gut atm. Why
He's still lurking and withholding his innermost thoughts beneath the cheeky facade
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##Unvote ##Vote: Sandroba
To answer your question from before, marv. I played with Palmar before. No, he hasn't met me yet.
DMB is null to me. Rayn doesn't look eager for conclusions, while with Koshi I don't know what's an actual opinion and what not.
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On December 11 2023 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 03:22 Vivax wrote: Rayn doesn't look eager for conclusions Ahh you have that thought, well you should keep voting for me for at least next 24 hrs prolly then ^^
I didn't say it made you mafia, but it makes you cautious.
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Greetings Holyflour, have you brought us a sand witch to roast?
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On December 11 2023 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: What exactly do you mean by conclusions in this case Vivax?
Like finding out that Chezinu works for methlab and might know something about the mafia.
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I didn't know they went to church in North Korea
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