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DarthPunk
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Probably yes, I am missing something too, I am writing out a list post, and it's thoroughly unsatisfying. The game is really hard right now which means that one of my town reads is mafia and I have no idea which. It could be palmar but that kind of seems too 'obvious' in a way. The simplest explanation to me is that it is just cake and you guys fucked it up yesterday and now I am doubting myself. If I could have a cop check on cake and palmar right now game would be much easier IMO. | ||
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iamperfection
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On March 14 2024 13:28 DarthPunk wrote: Oh you mean that post from a while ago. You did that because you were asked to I didn't really take it seriously as a read that you held cause you were asked to do it. I was parked in that world Now, live in the world I am town Who is mafia? What do you think of what I said of DMB? I said “is koshi /rels” she then says “is koshi/rels”, same reads as me but she says she doesnt trust me 😩 Good thing I didnt write a lot in the mason chat, she might be the one to twist my words. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 14 2024 13:37 iamperfection wrote: because palmar said something that was true Jat didnt really make clear what he thought of me at any point in the game from what i see in his filter. We certainly interact and he kind of quotes me a lot but he never really calls me town or mafia from what i see. And what do you make of that? | ||
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CopCake
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 14 2024 13:37 CopCake wrote: I was parked in that world Now, live in the world I am town Who is mafia? What do you think of what I said of DMB? I said “is koshi /rels” she then says “is koshi/rels”, same reads as me but she says she doesnt trust me 😩 Good thing I didnt write a lot in the mason chat, she might be the one to twist my words. I think lack of trust is a classic trait of town DMB.. If you are town Cake, I suggest you stop looking so much into people's consideration of you as alignment indicative. If everyone who thought you were mafia was mafia it would be more than half the game at this point. If you are mafia carry on of course  | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 14 2024 13:38 CopCake wrote: Seriously DP, work in the world I am town perspective. I have been off and on since yesterday, that should be obvious from my filter. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
i mean what would be the scenarios town jat just never bothers because he thinks im town and probably dont need a town read from him anyways. certianly possible i think. Scum Jat just responding to a lot of my posts saying good point yes to feign activity and not giving a read because he isnt trying to figure out the game. Possible i would think. Deliberate play yo dont make a read on iamp so we can use it as a point to bring up seems farfetched to me. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
Like rayn did the first cycle. | ||
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iamperfection
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
Tier 1 - confirmed town -----Vivax ------ ![[image loading]](https://y.yarn.co/130a435a-5458-46ce-8be8-3d3c5eec2e96_text.gif) Confirmed by claim, by night actions, by meta etc. etc. Trick with Vivax is to just ignore the 30% of his posts that are derived from the deeply paranoid and conspiracy theorist parts of his Psyche. Then he is really strong after that. Tier 2 - Town reads ---Perfection --- ![[image loading]](https://media1.tenor.com/images/62bd3801a6c2900ca39b88dbbe2e4050/tenor.gif?itemid=4462945) I just don't see him playing this way as mafia, I guess it is a tone read and you can all call me bad if I am wrong, but it just feels different to his scum play. Every time he posts a big post I think he is town. That is a good thing. He has been on the wrong side of every fucking wagon though. ----Koshi ----- ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/AT631VU1Fw208/giphy.gif) kind of dropped off hard for a bit, but now he is doing Koshi things, Emotional congruence was really good for him, getting shitty at me and cake, then getting mad at himself for being potentially super wrong all game. He has been really agentic in scumhunting the last 24 hours or so and has risen dramatically in my estimations accordingly. Tier 3 - Town reads --- MZ--- ![[image loading]](https://media1.tenor.com/images/a173cac068bc55e8c7e1bcf7bc34b608/tenor.gif?itemid=3961385) Also been on the wrong side of wagons, the Oats wagon was pretty egregious for example. However he has put in buckets of work when he didn't have to and I found myself agreeing with some of his takes. Some of his walls are really hard to read but I kind of also associate that with town a bit, just because it means he is deep in his own land working away. So yeah, MZ town. ------DMB:------ ![[image loading]](https://giffiles.alphacoders.com/183/183719.gif) I think she is too far from her scum meta this game, she is tonally town (although she tricked me last game with this) and just seems to be the right mix of paranoid, flexible in her reads and trying to solve the game. ----Palmar----- ![[image loading]](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TL2H9zGSBoc/UZIl0oJJObI/AAAAAAAAif0/-q_D5IfSwLM/s1600/003-funny-animal-gifs-penguin-falls.gif) My read on him has gotten a lot less firm recently, I don't think he looked the best last night dealing with the pressure. I think the push on Jat is fine, but the read on perfection is fucking out there imo. It took me ages to find a gif to encapsulate my feelings on him which is telling. I am sticking with my gut here and marvs read at end of day one. But really, what have you done for me lately bro? Tier 4 - Question Marks. Jealous: ![[image loading]](https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/144096/3943806-6673094119-rs8.g.gif) Town read him from mason chat, hasn't really changed much since. I feel like he has been coasting a bit recently, and potentially I have been pocketed at some point which worries me so he got dropped a tier. Occams' razor is that we are just townies that see the game the same way, but yeah I have too many weak town reads and not enough scum reads so things are starting to make me nervous. Rels: ![[image loading]](https://tenor.com/view/wash-hands-till-it-is-really-clean-no-hands-invisible-hands-squeaky-clean-gif-17847176) Looks super good and logical. BUT, has not been that proactive in pushing his scum reads when apparently they are godlike, his early pressure on mafia looked like distancing, no idea what he is doing with cake TBH lots of flipflopping around there. Tend to think that is townier to do. Not really sure how to read him TBH so he is going into the POE. Cake: ![[image loading]](https://68.media.tumblr.com/2caef7159ad8bc1fa379cc56e9db5822/tumblr_okvspbJDlo1w1wpeto1_500.gif) I actually think there is a lot that points to her as town recently, and looking back at her interactions day 1 with oats. there is a bunch of stuff that makes me think mafia too. But if I just go through and make a list of reads she is still firmly in the POE. Jat: ![[image loading]](https://media3.giphy.com/media/5z83tLvEy5iXH25uJP/giphy.gif) Very little thread presence. has done nothing proactive to suggest he is town aside from caring about the day one vote, just thread policing. Talked a big game in the obs last game and then has done fuck all this game. Conclusion As I said to perfection, im not that satisfied with where I ended up, I am sure that something here is probably massively wrong because the game is just too hard to figure out after 400 pages. Wouldn't be surprised if Palmar was mafia for example. I think Koshi was right though that Palmar and Cake have to be opposed alignment cause of the rayn shot night one.I liked that analysis. At the moment my feeling is that getting the alignment of Palmar and Cake correct should solve the game. I like the Jat wagon cause it fits right into my view of the game right now and it delays the decision making required to unravel the cake/palmar dichotomy. If they are both town I think perfection, koshi and MZ all go back on the table because of the Oats wagon, but I don't want to live in that world. So yeah, feel free to unpack this with me people and the gifs are just jokes, please don't get offended. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
Imperial 2.0 fml. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
I just think in at least my experience mafia teams don't operate for just individual players it almost always a consensus or everyone just listens to the best player. would a mafia team listen to cop you think? I guess their could be personal reasons she may have shrieked about in the mafia chat to do it? But i dont think rayn is strange kill at all. I thought he was obvious he was town and a strong player so why not just kill him? | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 14 2024 14:00 iamperfection wrote: that nk analysis talk. I just think in at least my experience mafia teams don't operate for just individual players it almost always a consensus or everyone just listens to the best player. would a mafia team listen to cop you think? I guess their could be personal reasons she may have shrieked about in the mafia chat to do it? But i dont think rayn is strange kill at all. I thought he was obvious he was town and a strong player so why not just kill him? Did you read her qt last scum game she had a lot of influence and decided to kill Rayn. I Think you have a fair point but I also think koshi does. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 14 2024 14:04 iamperfection wrote: i should go to bed. it is my birthday tomorrow and im supposed do stuff but ill probally end up posting a lot anyways as i have a problem Just have fun irl. And play if you enjoy it 😛 | ||
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Jealous
10141 Posts
On March 14 2024 13:53 DarthPunk wrote: Ahh fuck broken links I demand that the missing pictures be shared posthaste. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
Justanothertownie (4): Palmar, Vivax, Koshi, DarthPunk Palmar (4): CopCake (1): Rels (1): die_meatbaby Jealous (0): Koshi (0): Meapak_Ziphh (0): Not Voting (1): Justanothertownie With 4 votes, Justanothertownie is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Friday, Mar 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On March 14 2024 14:04 DarthPunk wrote: Did you read her qt last scum game she had a lot of influence and decided to kill Rayn. I Think you have a fair point but I also think koshi does. i didnt obs that one so i dont have that discord. i think | ||
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