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On March 14 2024 14:16 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 14:04 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 14:00 iamperfection wrote:
that nk analysis talk.
I just think in at least my experience mafia teams don't operate for just individual players it almost always a consensus or everyone just listens to the best player. would a mafia team listen to cop you think? I guess their could be personal reasons she may have shrieked about in the mafia chat to do it? But i dont think rayn is strange kill at all. I thought he was obvious he was town and a strong player so why not just kill him? Did you read her qt last scum game she had a lot of influence and decided to kill Rayn. I Think you have a fair point but I also think koshi does. i didnt obs that one so i dont have that discord. i think
OK fair enough, need to take my word for it then
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Can I get lynched?
It is not going against my win condition
- Jelaous thinks I dont help town
- iamp is like sarcastic
- vivax post weird shit
- DP is locked I am mafia
- Palmar doesnt understand me
I think my death will help town, it will bring a new perspective and will FORCE people to look somewhere else.
I think me being alive is only to make others look better. The people I tend to work perfectly fine in the game is either death or are not on the player list.
The game will also be less chaotic
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Btw Vivax is not 100% DP, i dont understand how is that mechanical possible.
Like it is - more likely - but not a locked thing.
I just posted the most likely world in which you are town, but there are others that are tinfoil.
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Like. This is not AtE, I think is the best course to go.
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On March 14 2024 14:21 CopCake wrote:
Btw Vivax is not 100% DP, i dont understand how is that mechanical possible.
Like it is - more likely - but not a locked thing.
I just posted the most likely world in which you are town, but there are others that are tinfoil.
OK yeah I agree there is some infinitesimal chance that vivax is mafia, but I think it is so unlikely to as not be worth considering.
Who is your team right now cake?
If you flip town and I die at night what is the direction town should be going in?
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cake its right in the intro Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions yes he probably shouldn't say confirmed even if he means 99.9% but its whatever. Can you provide that summary like i asked for how much has been posted in there?
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On March 14 2024 14:23 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 14:21 CopCake wrote:
Btw Vivax is not 100% DP, i dont understand how is that mechanical possible.
Like it is - more likely - but not a locked thing.
I just posted the most likely world in which you are town, but there are others that are tinfoil.
OK yeah I agree there is some infinitesimal chance that vivax is mafia, but I think it is so unlikely to as not be worth considering. Who is your team right now cake? If you flip town and I die at night what is the direction town should be going in?
I asked you first to work in the world I am town.
Please have the consideration to do it just the way I did.
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On March 14 2024 14:25 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 14:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 14:21 CopCake wrote:
Btw Vivax is not 100% DP, i dont understand how is that mechanical possible.
Like it is - more likely - but not a locked thing.
I just posted the most likely world in which you are town, but there are others that are tinfoil.
OK yeah I agree there is some infinitesimal chance that vivax is mafia, but I think it is so unlikely to as not be worth considering. Who is your team right now cake? If you flip town and I die at night what is the direction town should be going in? I asked you first to work in the world I am town. Please have the consideration to do it just the way I did.
I think something like JAT/Palmar/XXX would make sense if you are town.
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On March 14 2024 14:25 iamperfection wrote:
cake its right in the intro Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions yes he probably shouldn't say confirmed even if he means 99.9% but its whatever. Can you provide that summary like i asked for how much has been posted in there?
There is nothing much, I have said before.
She asked for reads, I told her I just posted a big post (the one you asked) I also told her she considered her and MZ town
She posted reasons why koshi is mafia, mostly koshi is lazy. He only started to scumhunt because she called him mafia, koshi doesnt have reads etc.
Finally asked me if I think DP is town
But after I read she doesnt trust me even tho we have the same mafia reads at the moment (Rels/Koshi), something seemed off.
Rayn also mentioned it
Cake and DMB are calling DP mafia but they do not clear each other.
In before - I twist - words, so yeah. If that happens please just lynch me.
I still love you DMB, you are a fucking awesome and interesting.
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On March 14 2024 14:28 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 14:25 CopCake wrote:On March 14 2024 14:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 14:21 CopCake wrote:
Btw Vivax is not 100% DP, i dont understand how is that mechanical possible.
Like it is - more likely - but not a locked thing.
I just posted the most likely world in which you are town, but there are others that are tinfoil.
OK yeah I agree there is some infinitesimal chance that vivax is mafia, but I think it is so unlikely to as not be worth considering. Who is your team right now cake? If you flip town and I die at night what is the direction town should be going in? I asked you first to work in the world I am town. Please have the consideration to do it just the way I did. I think something like JAT/Palmar/XXX would make sense if you are town.
What made you change your view of locked town DMB?
With me is how she came here, shared same reads and still say she doesnt trust me?
Cmon
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what do you make of her bothering to mason you in the first place?
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On March 14 2024 14:34 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 14:28 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 14:25 CopCake wrote:On March 14 2024 14:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 14:21 CopCake wrote:
Btw Vivax is not 100% DP, i dont understand how is that mechanical possible.
Like it is - more likely - but not a locked thing.
I just posted the most likely world in which you are town, but there are others that are tinfoil.
OK yeah I agree there is some infinitesimal chance that vivax is mafia, but I think it is so unlikely to as not be worth considering. Who is your team right now cake? If you flip town and I die at night what is the direction town should be going in? I asked you first to work in the world I am town. Please have the consideration to do it just the way I did. I think something like JAT/Palmar/XXX would make sense if you are town. What made you change your view of locked town DMB? With me is how she came here, shared same reads and still say she doesnt trust me? Cmon
What do you mean?
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Ok, I need to go to work and I will answer that.
- the timings - but it is 8 am in Finland
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But long story short, she said she masoned me because she wanted to figure me out but she hasnt come to a conclusion? Not even a tiny bit? When she got asked that.
To me is weird because I had koshi as mafia and rels and she said “me too” Koshi for this and this and this reason (shared before)
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On March 14 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 10:49 Rels wrote:On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 13 2024 00:37 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 13 2024 00:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I have to fly tonight, I apologize for my activity but flying takes huge chunks out of my schedule. I will try and be around on my phone this morning and get started on a reread of Palmar. Anything is on the table rn with the VE flip and my current lack of conviction on cake.
The suspicion on Palmar also reminds me, we never heard from a Mason the whole of D3 so I'm guessing scum got it and just didn't want to talk? How would knowing who had the mason chat helping us do find scum? It is random could be T chat with M or T with T or M with M... If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town. There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad. yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment) As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane) This posts strikes me as really townie. Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective. How does that fit with this at deadline: On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!
Btw i am in a mason chat yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day Why did you claim it? why not? they told me actually a good reason about mason. As Town you don´t have do hide, so why should I? I masoned CC for a good reason. Maybe to have a privat Teaparty with her makes it easier for me to understand what she is. I just got kinda paranoia about the mason if somebody would mason me and turn the truth around, because nobody can see the actuall mason chat until the game is over.
Yeah I am paranoid too now.
And nevermind, Rayn is gonna drive me to work. Too much rain.
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There is never too much Rayn am i right?
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On March 14 2024 14:28 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 14:25 CopCake wrote:On March 14 2024 14:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 14 2024 14:21 CopCake wrote:
Btw Vivax is not 100% DP, i dont understand how is that mechanical possible.
Like it is - more likely - but not a locked thing.
I just posted the most likely world in which you are town, but there are others that are tinfoil.
OK yeah I agree there is some infinitesimal chance that vivax is mafia, but I think it is so unlikely to as not be worth considering. Who is your team right now cake? If you flip town and I die at night what is the direction town should be going in? I asked you first to work in the world I am town. Please have the consideration to do it just the way I did. I think something like JAT/Palmar/XXX would make sense if you are town.
Why is this worldview?
Walk me into that perspective as if I was 7
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On March 14 2024 13:10 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 13:07 CopCake wrote:On March 14 2024 11:38 iamperfection wrote:A lot of things have bothered me today. Copcake makes a case on Koshi and then just almost instantly drops it just because Jat says thats how koshi plays and then votes palmar. Why does cop just accept as true it confuses me. Meapak_Ziphh comes back after 19 hours says hes too tired to be bothered to do anything but he has found scum? and is somehow not voting???? I keep hearing this idiotic comment that marv said palmar is 90% likely to be town. I get it you guys all worship marv but his word isnt gospel and he very well would probably be saying different things if he was still alive its day 4 now marv died in night 2. Palmar really bothers me. He calls me scum because i have just been around not doing anything?? Like i said earlier you can say a lot of things about me but not engaged and not in the thick of things is certainly not one of them. I exposed the mason circle and tried to get reads from it. I correctly deduced that Rayn had to be town from the way he used it and almost immediately tried to make him mayor for it. Right or wrong i was screaming at the top of my longs to lynch tryfel it was wrong but so what. I have constantly been directing and calling out actions. I literally hammered VE in a quest for personal glory it backfired so what. To say i have been just around is objectively wrong. Now palmar says he dosnt really read the thread that he just shows hes around interacts and develops reads. I dont really feel like has done that all in this game. I think if anyone with a quarter of a brain which ill grant palmar he has a quarter of a brain could easily use meta to see i am town. This would be by FAR the largest filter i have ever had as mafia. I would also say i am much less emotional as mafia and much more reserved. My style as town requires me to post a ton and usually in quick succession. Thats why i will have mind melds which happened earlier with marv where we said the same thing. As mafia that is extremely hard for me to replicate. At least for a long period. Also as mafia its very hard for me to long posts like this were i have to fake my thoughts i just have hard time to do it. So those long list posts and posts were i collect my thoughts like i had earlier and this one quite frankly are hard for me to do. I dont think palmar is trying figure out my alignment because he is being bad or more likely just mafia. Now do i think JAT could possibly be mafia. Yes its possible he had a post earlier where he almost knew that koshi was mafia. {but iamperfection you said earlier that koshi is likely town) well first of all stfu second there is a diffrence between knowing and thinking. On March 14 2024 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:On March 14 2024 04:30 iamperfection wrote:On March 14 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.
This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.
And now we're gonna have to solve the copcake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.
I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point. What a town hero does. Analyse. I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post. You won't convince him. At this point Koshi is not reading MZs posts critically anymore. not the biggest thing but the post bothers me. He also seems a bit apathetic to what is going on. So yes i think its possible. MZ's comeback post also bothers me and the fact that he isnt voting despite finding scum On March 14 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm home, had a shit day so I really don't have the energy to jump into filters right now, especially since I've already found 1 scum at minimum this cycle. I'll hang around the thread and play some league if people want my opinions on anything just ask. However in my eyes palmar is the most likely mafia. The me dropping the Koshi case is because no one said “good catch!” Except jelaous so I believed I was wrong Lmao the shade TT__TT
Btw it wasnt shade
JAT told me I was wrong and that Koshi tends to do stuff like that
Iamp said that “Koshi was joking there” and #7698
“And I feel like you just went through koshis filter trying to find any inconsistency possible. Also not explaining why said inconsistency makes koshi mafia”
Then Vivax - if I understood correctly - pointed that my case was bad.
- You said it was good -
So if three persons tell me I am wrong and Iamp doesnt even said “Hey JAT you are wrong”, DP doesnt comment on it, Koshi got depressed - I assume - I am wrong.
What do you make of this? Do you Really think my process was correct or just trash?
If you live in the world I am town, dumb annoying town BUT town, who do you think is the mafia?
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I would also like to know that from MZ
If you think I am town, who is mafia?
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