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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 15:57 GMT
#701
Well i did and now it's a gone point.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 04 2024 15:57 GMT
#702
On March 05 2024 00:52 sandroba wrote:
I currently think rayn is town and he would be a good choice for mayor as well. However, rayn is much better scum than me. Also marv which I lean null atm has masoned me and wants to to get behind rayn. Which there is a fair town motivation to do, but also gives rise to some conspiracies in my head. Thus I think I'm the better, safer choice.

That's funny
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 04 2024 15:59 GMT
#703
On March 04 2024 18:28 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:28 DarthPunk wrote:
If we vote for the tip top town to be mayor, why can't we trust them with a vig shot?

Sure make suggestions and stuff, but I know if I was the mayor I am just going to back myself, because I know I am town and can make a smart shot.



But I don't know if you're town and I'm still not trusting my tip top town with a shot on D1.

Sorry MZ, you’d trust a collective town with all sorts of levels of play, and containing multiple mafia, to make a better choice than your best town read?

On D1? Yes. Outside of people like Ver or Ace or incognito, I don't think there's anyone on TL who I'd trust over my own reads on D1. I know trfel and I kinda beat the whole mayor kill thing to death in the first few pages but I just think using it as a town double lynch has a way higher chance of hitting scum than one guy taking a gut shot.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 04 2024 15:59 GMT
#704
If anyone else is whisperer they should claim it immediately fyi.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 16:01 GMT
#705
On March 05 2024 00:57 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 00:52 sandroba wrote:
I currently think rayn is town and he would be a good choice for mayor as well. However, rayn is much better scum than me. Also marv which I lean null atm has masoned me and wants to to get behind rayn. Which there is a fair town motivation to do, but also gives rise to some conspiracies in my head. Thus I think I'm the better, safer choice.

That's funny

Yeah it was when i heard it ^^

There is only 2.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 04 2024 16:01 GMT
#706
On March 04 2024 19:39 CopCake wrote:
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On March 04 2024 17:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake do you think DP's reasoning for calling you mafia last game when you were actually mafia was good?


If I remember correctly, he called me mafia for having TMI for calling you town in a secure way. Which I applaud.

Here, I honestly do not understand or I am pretty stupid.

Anyways, that doesnt change my read on him. He is a strong, secure player. He cares for other people’s opinions like when he was town in the game Slam was mafia.

In the marvvivaxcake game, I was asking many questions, he engaged and answered. He demanded answers.

Here, I ignored him and he did nothing until Oats came and started to talk about me.

As someone who kinda “played” him, I would imagine he would try to figure me out asap. (Played as in I stayed alive and made him second guess TTT)

Thing is, DP is bravado, he has said so before such as “he controls lynches” and stuff like that.

Here, he is too quiet for the exception of calling me wolf.

As I said before, if he was interested in me he would have called me out inmediatly for ignoring him and not just when Oats came. Idk it seems like lazy mafia using “I was right last time”

Am I wrong for getting with this conclusion? This is a general question for everyone, not just Rayn.

First off the red piece is objectively wrong, DP is like a top 3 poster in this game purely on volume. Secondly I think you're completely mischaracterizing the interaction you two had a couple of pages back.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 04 2024 16:02 GMT
#707
On March 05 2024 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 00:57 iamperfection wrote:
On March 05 2024 00:52 sandroba wrote:
I currently think rayn is town and he would be a good choice for mayor as well. However, rayn is much better scum than me. Also marv which I lean null atm has masoned me and wants to to get behind rayn. Which there is a fair town motivation to do, but also gives rise to some conspiracies in my head. Thus I think I'm the better, safer choice.

That's funny

Yeah it was when i heard it ^^

There is only 2.

I know
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 04 2024 16:02 GMT
#708
On March 04 2024 20:36 ToTheStars wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say that I posted and then disappeared. I am not going to be playing mafia all day long. Don't expect me to post more than like 5-10 posts per 10-20 pages. Also I am not used to games with over 20 players so I'm likely going to put minimal effort until day 4 or 5, or whenever we get to a more manageable number of players (I'd say 11 living players is when I start really thriving).

I'm a he btw (because I saw somebuddy ask).

And I voted trfel because I didn't like their entrance. It felt a bit off tone-wise, like fake maybe. I am not even close to being convinced they are mafia, but where I come from you use votes to apply pressure, which allows you to develop reads better. I don't really have a grasp on the game right now or on the style of mafia you play here, so 90% of what has been posted so far sounds completely irrelevant to anyone's alignment, and tbh I'm kinda grasping at straws to have any sort of read (and still end up with extremely weak reads). But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads.

OK this is fair in my eyes, TL towns are very chatty and if you come from somewhere that's not I could believe this position.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 04 2024 16:04 GMT
#709
On March 04 2024 20:50 Vivax wrote:
Well for TTS it‘s an easy explanation: He also didn‘t like Trfel‘s posts.

Do you agree with the reasons he didn't like it? I get where he's coming from since he's a new player but I'm not sure what you see wrong with it?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 04 2024 16:04 GMT
#710
I'm gonna mayor rayn for now
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 04 2024 16:06 GMT
#711
I am gonna battle rayn.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 16:07 GMT
#712
On March 05 2024 01:06 Koshi wrote:
I am gonna battle rayn.

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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 04 2024 16:09 GMT
#713
On March 04 2024 21:58 CopCake wrote:
vote: slam


???
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 04 2024 16:09 GMT
#714
On March 05 2024 01:06 Koshi wrote:
I am gonna battle rayn.

You don't think he is likely town?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 04 2024 16:12 GMT
#715
On March 05 2024 01:09 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 01:06 Koshi wrote:
I am gonna battle rayn.

You don't think he is likely town?

I havent read anything yet from before I first posted.
Masoning marv is leaning town.
Marv gets good rep, marv isnt saying rayn is mafia. So probably I will have to battle town rayn.

That's ok.

I will battle him with scumreads.
I had a good night of sleep.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 04 2024 16:13 GMT
#716
On March 04 2024 14:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 14:06 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 14:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 13:58 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 13:52 CopCake wrote:
Lord Trfel, Duchess meatbaby… would you like to join me for tea in this perfectly splendid day?

Unfortunately I don't drink tea, why do you ask?

@DarthPunk sorry I guess I misinterpreted what you were saying, I wasn't trying to misrepresent you. I'll let you do your thing instead of arguing over little nonsense.


Any thoughts of dmb/vivax/me/perfection from the past few pages?
I actually like die_meatbaby's point about Vivax, it's interesting to me and makes sense. So I would lean town on her. Vivax I am not sure about, his posting feels carefree so maybe town? It feels like there is a bit of a drive to his posting, despite the slow early game. But this doesn't line up with die_meatbaby's point so I really don't know. I have no idea about you, we just think very differently and I could argue about semantics for ages. Makes it difficult. I haven't read imperfection's filter yet but my first thought is that he is the most likely mafia so far, since he has been present mostly to critique people's thoughts and hasn't seemed to show much interest in finding people's alignments.



What about this is mafia aligned?
First bold quote isn't mafia aligned. Second bold section is textbook mafia, not sure why you are asking this? Being present without actually trying to identify alignments is highly mafia motivated since you are playing for survival instead of solving the game.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 04 2024 16:14 GMT
#717
On March 04 2024 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 21:15 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think Cake is town?
I think ytour points 1 and 2 dont make her mafia, which i was kind of arguing. I think your point 3 is alid and it actually can make her mafia.


Well you said my scum read on her was unreasonable so that kind of implied you thought she was town right?

No that doesn't mean that. It was more about my read on you rather than Cake's alignment.


What did it mean about that?

Im gonna answer this and then continue in the same post with other things.

If your read looks unreasonable to me, it might indicate you're mafia. Cake's alignment doesnt matter here at all since its not out of question you would make a shitty scumread even on your partner, just to back off from it later on. Its just that if you make a shitty read, that implicates you being mafia, regardless of the other person's alignment.

I take back my town read on Trfel, i thought i saw something there when i was reading the thread at work but re-reading now that something didn't actually exist. Trfel could very well be mafia.

I am still considering Slam mafia, and it's not a meta read. Sure at first it started as a meta read when he looked more serious and laid back than usual. That can be explained with his rl-situation. However, there should be simply no way he is considering me as his best vote for mayor at the moment.
1) I have openly stated he is my only scumread in the game at that point
2) DP makes points about Cake, Slam calls all of them good points. I disagree with 2/3 of those points, Slam STILL goes like "oh rayn makes very good point" -- both of those things can't be in his head, either DP's points are good or they are not in his opinion, yet he's saying they both are and they aren't.
Furhtermore i don't in any case understand why he is making a list of who he is preferring as mayor in which order. He said before game he would want Hapa for mayor, why doesn't he even wait for Hapa to post while starting to campign "rayn for mayor" when it doesn't even make any sense for him to do so if he is town?

I don't like your trfel read especially since you withdrew it right as sandroba showed up in the thread and said he didn't like trfel's post as well.

Or maybe trfel just has me pocketed bc I liked our conversations in the first few pages.

Thanks for expanding on your slam read, that actually makes a lot of sense and is congruent with how I've read the last few pages.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 04 2024 16:16 GMT
#718
On March 05 2024 01:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 21:58 CopCake wrote:
vote: slam


???


I cant believe Slam forgot the game in which marv / vivax / myself were mafia.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 04 2024 16:16 GMT
#719
On March 04 2024 23:12 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 22:13 JacobStrangelove wrote:
That's a good point sandro, curious to know your thoughts on copcake vs DP and Ray's alighnment from your perspective.



Honestly undecided on DP, leaning town on copcake. If I had to decide now I would say it's most likely TvT here. Rayn is amongst my top town with dmb and trfel,
Coincidentally, you are one of my few scum hunches so far.

I don't agree with the town on copcake but the rest of your reads are fairly close to mine, DP's posts on copcake have me feeling much better about him.

I'd love to hear more about Jacob from you bc there's a post I have in mind and I'm wondering if it's the same one that set off your alarm bells.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 16:17 GMT
#720
If it helps anyone to read marv better, i am fairly certain i masoned him before he masoned sandroba.
I put alarm at the game start, read my role PM, saw i have whisperer PM and immediately masoned marv.
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