• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:38
CEST 05:38
KST 12:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall12HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension0Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles7[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China11
StarCraft 2
General
Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles
Tourneys
$5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL [Guide] MyStarcraft BW General Discussion [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall
Tourneys
[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2025 ACS Season 2 Qualifier Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Summer Games Done Quick 2025! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Accidental Video Game Porn Archive
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Men Take Risks, Women Win Ga…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 582 users

A Classy Game of Mafia - Page 36

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 34 35 36 37 38 555 Next
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 04 2024 15:57 GMT
#701
Well i did and now it's a gone point.
table for two on a tv tray
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9641 Posts
March 04 2024 15:57 GMT
#702
On March 05 2024 00:52 sandroba wrote:
I currently think rayn is town and he would be a good choice for mayor as well. However, rayn is much better scum than me. Also marv which I lean null atm has masoned me and wants to to get behind rayn. Which there is a fair town motivation to do, but also gives rise to some conspiracies in my head. Thus I think I'm the better, safer choice.

That's funny
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 04 2024 15:59 GMT
#703
On March 04 2024 18:28 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:28 DarthPunk wrote:
If we vote for the tip top town to be mayor, why can't we trust them with a vig shot?

Sure make suggestions and stuff, but I know if I was the mayor I am just going to back myself, because I know I am town and can make a smart shot.



But I don't know if you're town and I'm still not trusting my tip top town with a shot on D1.

Sorry MZ, you’d trust a collective town with all sorts of levels of play, and containing multiple mafia, to make a better choice than your best town read?

On D1? Yes. Outside of people like Ver or Ace or incognito, I don't think there's anyone on TL who I'd trust over my own reads on D1. I know trfel and I kinda beat the whole mayor kill thing to death in the first few pages but I just think using it as a town double lynch has a way higher chance of hitting scum than one guy taking a gut shot.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9641 Posts
March 04 2024 15:59 GMT
#704
If anyone else is whisperer they should claim it immediately fyi.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 04 2024 16:01 GMT
#705
On March 05 2024 00:57 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 00:52 sandroba wrote:
I currently think rayn is town and he would be a good choice for mayor as well. However, rayn is much better scum than me. Also marv which I lean null atm has masoned me and wants to to get behind rayn. Which there is a fair town motivation to do, but also gives rise to some conspiracies in my head. Thus I think I'm the better, safer choice.

That's funny

Yeah it was when i heard it ^^

There is only 2.
table for two on a tv tray
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 04 2024 16:01 GMT
#706
On March 04 2024 19:39 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 17:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake do you think DP's reasoning for calling you mafia last game when you were actually mafia was good?


If I remember correctly, he called me mafia for having TMI for calling you town in a secure way. Which I applaud.

Here, I honestly do not understand or I am pretty stupid.

Anyways, that doesnt change my read on him. He is a strong, secure player. He cares for other people’s opinions like when he was town in the game Slam was mafia.

In the marvvivaxcake game, I was asking many questions, he engaged and answered. He demanded answers.

Here, I ignored him and he did nothing until Oats came and started to talk about me.

As someone who kinda “played” him, I would imagine he would try to figure me out asap. (Played as in I stayed alive and made him second guess TTT)

Thing is, DP is bravado, he has said so before such as “he controls lynches” and stuff like that.

Here, he is too quiet for the exception of calling me wolf.

As I said before, if he was interested in me he would have called me out inmediatly for ignoring him and not just when Oats came. Idk it seems like lazy mafia using “I was right last time”

Am I wrong for getting with this conclusion? This is a general question for everyone, not just Rayn.

First off the red piece is objectively wrong, DP is like a top 3 poster in this game purely on volume. Secondly I think you're completely mischaracterizing the interaction you two had a couple of pages back.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9641 Posts
March 04 2024 16:02 GMT
#707
On March 05 2024 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 00:57 iamperfection wrote:
On March 05 2024 00:52 sandroba wrote:
I currently think rayn is town and he would be a good choice for mayor as well. However, rayn is much better scum than me. Also marv which I lean null atm has masoned me and wants to to get behind rayn. Which there is a fair town motivation to do, but also gives rise to some conspiracies in my head. Thus I think I'm the better, safer choice.

That's funny

Yeah it was when i heard it ^^

There is only 2.

I know
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 04 2024 16:02 GMT
#708
On March 04 2024 20:36 ToTheStars wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say that I posted and then disappeared. I am not going to be playing mafia all day long. Don't expect me to post more than like 5-10 posts per 10-20 pages. Also I am not used to games with over 20 players so I'm likely going to put minimal effort until day 4 or 5, or whenever we get to a more manageable number of players (I'd say 11 living players is when I start really thriving).

I'm a he btw (because I saw somebuddy ask).

And I voted trfel because I didn't like their entrance. It felt a bit off tone-wise, like fake maybe. I am not even close to being convinced they are mafia, but where I come from you use votes to apply pressure, which allows you to develop reads better. I don't really have a grasp on the game right now or on the style of mafia you play here, so 90% of what has been posted so far sounds completely irrelevant to anyone's alignment, and tbh I'm kinda grasping at straws to have any sort of read (and still end up with extremely weak reads). But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads.

OK this is fair in my eyes, TL towns are very chatty and if you come from somewhere that's not I could believe this position.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 04 2024 16:04 GMT
#709
On March 04 2024 20:50 Vivax wrote:
Well for TTS it‘s an easy explanation: He also didn‘t like Trfel‘s posts.

Do you agree with the reasons he didn't like it? I get where he's coming from since he's a new player but I'm not sure what you see wrong with it?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9641 Posts
March 04 2024 16:04 GMT
#710
I'm gonna mayor rayn for now
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 04 2024 16:06 GMT
#711
I am gonna battle rayn.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 04 2024 16:07 GMT
#712
On March 05 2024 01:06 Koshi wrote:
I am gonna battle rayn.

table for two on a tv tray
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 04 2024 16:09 GMT
#713
On March 04 2024 21:58 CopCake wrote:
vote: slam


???
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9641 Posts
March 04 2024 16:09 GMT
#714
On March 05 2024 01:06 Koshi wrote:
I am gonna battle rayn.

You don't think he is likely town?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 04 2024 16:12 GMT
#715
On March 05 2024 01:09 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 01:06 Koshi wrote:
I am gonna battle rayn.

You don't think he is likely town?

I havent read anything yet from before I first posted.
Masoning marv is leaning town.
Marv gets good rep, marv isnt saying rayn is mafia. So probably I will have to battle town rayn.

That's ok.

I will battle him with scumreads.
I had a good night of sleep.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 04 2024 16:13 GMT
#716
On March 04 2024 14:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 14:06 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 14:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 13:58 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 13:52 CopCake wrote:
Lord Trfel, Duchess meatbaby… would you like to join me for tea in this perfectly splendid day?

Unfortunately I don't drink tea, why do you ask?

@DarthPunk sorry I guess I misinterpreted what you were saying, I wasn't trying to misrepresent you. I'll let you do your thing instead of arguing over little nonsense.


Any thoughts of dmb/vivax/me/perfection from the past few pages?
I actually like die_meatbaby's point about Vivax, it's interesting to me and makes sense. So I would lean town on her. Vivax I am not sure about, his posting feels carefree so maybe town? It feels like there is a bit of a drive to his posting, despite the slow early game. But this doesn't line up with die_meatbaby's point so I really don't know. I have no idea about you, we just think very differently and I could argue about semantics for ages. Makes it difficult. I haven't read imperfection's filter yet but my first thought is that he is the most likely mafia so far, since he has been present mostly to critique people's thoughts and hasn't seemed to show much interest in finding people's alignments.



What about this is mafia aligned?
First bold quote isn't mafia aligned. Second bold section is textbook mafia, not sure why you are asking this? Being present without actually trying to identify alignments is highly mafia motivated since you are playing for survival instead of solving the game.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 04 2024 16:14 GMT
#717
On March 04 2024 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 21:15 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think Cake is town?
I think ytour points 1 and 2 dont make her mafia, which i was kind of arguing. I think your point 3 is alid and it actually can make her mafia.


Well you said my scum read on her was unreasonable so that kind of implied you thought she was town right?

No that doesn't mean that. It was more about my read on you rather than Cake's alignment.


What did it mean about that?

Im gonna answer this and then continue in the same post with other things.

If your read looks unreasonable to me, it might indicate you're mafia. Cake's alignment doesnt matter here at all since its not out of question you would make a shitty scumread even on your partner, just to back off from it later on. Its just that if you make a shitty read, that implicates you being mafia, regardless of the other person's alignment.

I take back my town read on Trfel, i thought i saw something there when i was reading the thread at work but re-reading now that something didn't actually exist. Trfel could very well be mafia.

I am still considering Slam mafia, and it's not a meta read. Sure at first it started as a meta read when he looked more serious and laid back than usual. That can be explained with his rl-situation. However, there should be simply no way he is considering me as his best vote for mayor at the moment.
1) I have openly stated he is my only scumread in the game at that point
2) DP makes points about Cake, Slam calls all of them good points. I disagree with 2/3 of those points, Slam STILL goes like "oh rayn makes very good point" -- both of those things can't be in his head, either DP's points are good or they are not in his opinion, yet he's saying they both are and they aren't.
Furhtermore i don't in any case understand why he is making a list of who he is preferring as mayor in which order. He said before game he would want Hapa for mayor, why doesn't he even wait for Hapa to post while starting to campign "rayn for mayor" when it doesn't even make any sense for him to do so if he is town?

I don't like your trfel read especially since you withdrew it right as sandroba showed up in the thread and said he didn't like trfel's post as well.

Or maybe trfel just has me pocketed bc I liked our conversations in the first few pages.

Thanks for expanding on your slam read, that actually makes a lot of sense and is congruent with how I've read the last few pages.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 04 2024 16:16 GMT
#718
On March 05 2024 01:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 21:58 CopCake wrote:
vote: slam


???


I cant believe Slam forgot the game in which marv / vivax / myself were mafia.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 04 2024 16:16 GMT
#719
On March 04 2024 23:12 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 22:13 JacobStrangelove wrote:
That's a good point sandro, curious to know your thoughts on copcake vs DP and Ray's alighnment from your perspective.



Honestly undecided on DP, leaning town on copcake. If I had to decide now I would say it's most likely TvT here. Rayn is amongst my top town with dmb and trfel,
Coincidentally, you are one of my few scum hunches so far.

I don't agree with the town on copcake but the rest of your reads are fairly close to mine, DP's posts on copcake have me feeling much better about him.

I'd love to hear more about Jacob from you bc there's a post I have in mind and I'm wondering if it's the same one that set off your alarm bells.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 04 2024 16:17 GMT
#720
If it helps anyone to read marv better, i am fairly certain i masoned him before he masoned sandroba.
I put alarm at the game start, read my role PM, saw i have whisperer PM and immediately masoned marv.
table for two on a tv tray
Prev 1 34 35 36 37 38 555 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 22m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 203
RuFF_SC2 181
NeuroSwarm 173
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 5044
EffOrt 98
NaDa 76
Mind 52
Leta 37
Noble 23
Icarus 7
Bale 6
Dota 2
monkeys_forever783
League of Legends
JimRising 692
febbydoto14
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K862
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox913
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor155
Other Games
summit1g15185
shahzam885
WinterStarcraft442
ViBE254
Maynarde188
ROOTCatZ27
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick5280
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH354
• davetesta43
• gosughost_ 29
• practicex 2
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift6168
• Rush2059
Other Games
• Scarra1746
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
7h 22m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
WardiTV European League
1d 12h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 20h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Epic.LAN
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
[ Show More ]
Epic.LAN
5 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
5 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Online Event
6 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
6 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Championship of Russia 2025
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters

Upcoming

CSL Xiamen Invitational
CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
K-Championship
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Underdog Cup #2
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.