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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
March 11 2024 17:24 GMT
#6701
On March 12 2024 02:22 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 02:20 Vivax wrote:
On March 12 2024 02:18 CopCake wrote:
That is why I think, from mafia perspective, putting JAT in danger is stupid.


Do you go to bed with two toast slices at the sides of your head?
Or are you just playing pro-scum on purpose.


I dont understand? Why clearing JAT is scummy?


You're voting Palmar too.
At least vote VE.

You are mafia traitor aren't you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
March 11 2024 17:25 GMT
#6702
You're crumbing it so much you could make a pizza from that.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 11 2024 17:26 GMT
#6703
I honestly do not understand?

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
March 11 2024 17:28 GMT
#6704
On March 12 2024 02:26 CopCake wrote:
I honestly do not understand?



Does it look like Oats switched to JAT because he was scumreading JAT?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16328 Posts
March 11 2024 17:30 GMT
#6705
On March 12 2024 02:11 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 02:10 CopCake wrote:
On March 12 2024 02:08 Vivax wrote:
On March 12 2024 02:05 CopCake wrote:
At some point the list looked like this

Trfel (8): iamperfection, Vivax, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, Justanothertownie, Vivax, marvellosity, Koshi, VisceraEyes, Vivax, Jealous
Justanothertownie (5): sandroba, Palmar, DarthPunk, Vivax, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, Vivax, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, Trfel, Rels

Then MZ and Oats added the votes to JAT making it 8 to Tfrel and 7 to JAT

That would have put JAT in danger.


Where did you pull that list it looks wrong in all aspects.


https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621825-a-classy-vote-thread?page=5#97

Post #97

After that you can see from the voting thread that Oats and MZ went to vote JAT


What's the point? Do you have strong reason to believe that JAT and MZ are both town?

What so you mean what's the point? These votes are literally one of the very few solid pieces of evidence we have at this point. Assuming VE is mafia.

Also interesting for palmar to call a wagon with Oats, his mafia read MZ and people like Rels & dmb pure.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16328 Posts
March 11 2024 17:30 GMT
#6706
Maybe dumb rather than interesting.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16328 Posts
March 11 2024 17:33 GMT
#6707
On March 12 2024 02:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 02:26 CopCake wrote:
I honestly do not understand?



Does it look like Oats switched to JAT because he was scumreading JAT?

Oats was mafia. He was not reading anyone anything. And no, he never even gave a reasoning to scumread me. Usually if people bus they add good reasons to look better afterwards and finding reasons to scum read your partners is always easy. They don't just throw their vote on there.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 11 2024 17:34 GMT
#6708
On March 12 2024 02:14 CopCake wrote:
Like

TTS was goon
Oats framer
JAT roleblocker/vig/strongarm/godfather

Would you lose a power role over a goon?

I don't understand this logic at all
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 11 2024 17:35 GMT
#6709
On March 12 2024 02:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 02:26 CopCake wrote:
I honestly do not understand?



Does it look like Oats switched to JAT because he was scumreading JAT?


What is your point?

My theory is that if JAT is mafia, oats never parks his vote there.

What is the point? To look townie? He was just a framer.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 11 2024 17:37 GMT
#6710
With he was just a framer i mean oats.

If JAT is mafia, he is either blocker/strongarm/vig

And I think you protect those, no?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
March 11 2024 17:41 GMT
#6711
On March 12 2024 02:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 02:28 Vivax wrote:
On March 12 2024 02:26 CopCake wrote:
I honestly do not understand?



Does it look like Oats switched to JAT because he was scumreading JAT?

Oats was mafia. He was not reading anyone anything. And no, he never even gave a reasoning to scumread me. Usually if people bus they add good reasons to look better afterwards and finding reasons to scum read your partners is always easy. They don't just throw their vote on there.


It'd help if it was visible what your current opinion of VE, Copcake, MZ is.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16328 Posts
March 11 2024 17:45 GMT
#6712
On March 12 2024 02:41 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 02:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 12 2024 02:28 Vivax wrote:
On March 12 2024 02:26 CopCake wrote:
I honestly do not understand?



Does it look like Oats switched to JAT because he was scumreading JAT?

Oats was mafia. He was not reading anyone anything. And no, he never even gave a reasoning to scumread me. Usually if people bus they add good reasons to look better afterwards and finding reasons to scum read your partners is always easy. They don't just throw their vote on there.


It'd help if it was visible what your current opinion of VE, Copcake, MZ is.

Phone posting at work currently. I will tell you where I am at when I am at my laptop.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 11 2024 17:59 GMT
#6713
Dp Jacob what do you want to do I won't be around for deadline I think. I think just lynching ve is the play.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 11 2024 18:00 GMT
#6714
Idk

Like confirmed mafia oats votes mafia JAT when his confirmed scumbuddy TTS is getting grilled.

Why risk losing Mafia JAT when Oats could have parked the vote on DMB or Tfrel?

To win town cred?



iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 11 2024 18:04 GMT
#6715
On March 12 2024 03:00 CopCake wrote:
Idk

Like confirmed mafia oats votes mafia JAT when his confirmed scumbuddy TTS is getting grilled.

Why risk losing Mafia JAT when Oats could have parked the vote on DMB or Tfrel?

To win town cred?




That's a more sensible point when you drop all the role nonsense. But it's hard to say maybe he saw that trfel was getting lynched no matter what so why not jump somewhere else to avoid the mislynch wagon mafia or not.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
March 11 2024 18:05 GMT
#6716
On March 12 2024 03:00 CopCake wrote:
Idk

Like confirmed mafia oats votes mafia JAT when his confirmed scumbuddy TTS is getting grilled.

Why risk losing Mafia JAT when Oats could have parked the vote on DMB or Tfrel?

To win town cred?



You are blowing the risk out of proportion it doesn‘t outweigh the benefits when they both didn‘t do anything meaningful to get Jat lynched.

On the MS game Dp and his mate parked both their votes on the teammate and I was thinking like you. They won.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16328 Posts
March 11 2024 18:12 GMT
#6717
On March 12 2024 03:04 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 03:00 CopCake wrote:
Idk

Like confirmed mafia oats votes mafia JAT when his confirmed scumbuddy TTS is getting grilled.

Why risk losing Mafia JAT when Oats could have parked the vote on DMB or Tfrel?

To win town cred?




That's a more sensible point when you drop all the role nonsense. But it's hard to say maybe he saw that trfel was getting lynched no matter what so why not jump somewhere else to avoid the mislynch wagon mafia or not.

True, but makes even more sense with a TvT wagon situation.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 11 2024 18:15 GMT
#6718
On March 12 2024 03:12 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 03:04 iamperfection wrote:
On March 12 2024 03:00 CopCake wrote:
Idk

Like confirmed mafia oats votes mafia JAT when his confirmed scumbuddy TTS is getting grilled.

Why risk losing Mafia JAT when Oats could have parked the vote on DMB or Tfrel?

To win town cred?




That's a more sensible point when you drop all the role nonsense. But it's hard to say maybe he saw that trfel was getting lynched no matter what so why not jump somewhere else to avoid the mislynch wagon mafia or not.

True, but makes even more sense with a TvT wagon situation.

Well it makes sense both ways no? If he thinks trfel goes no matter what.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 11 2024 18:19 GMT
#6719
On March 12 2024 01:06 Palmar wrote:
I wanna talk a little about VE.

I have absolutely no idea what he is doing this game. He is playing incredibly "scummy" by not posting and just not taking part in the game, and he knows this. He has even pointed out, a few times I think, that he is being scummy. All of his posts are incredibly standoff-ish. The feeling I get is that every other thing he says is just "COME AT ME BRUH".

So what do I do with that? There is absolutely a chance that in his mind he's trying to... teach us a lesson? It's just so hard for me to justify wrangling myself into a position where it isn't just fake mafia bravado.

If we had less time, if we were one lynch away from lylo, I'd probably be doubting this lynch a little more, but as it stands I just can't find a non-stupid reason to call him town. The problem is I can find a stupid reason to call him town and I can't be fully confident it isn't the case.

But with time, lynching him is almost a no-brainer. He has, by far, the shortest filter of the players remaining, he hasn't done anything to help town. When reading through some of his stuff early on day 1 I found myself agreeing when someone scolded him and told him to try to be a good townie.

Like if you just make a list of people from those who have done the most to try to advance and solve the game (DP) to the least (VE) it makes basically no sense to let him get away with acting this way. This kind of playing is just not useful down the line.

This is so many words to "All of a sudden I don't think VE is mafia but I want him dead anyways"

But ya Palmar likes playing with me guys. lmao
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 11 2024 18:20 GMT
#6720
Ya fuck all of this, no one even commented on content I put in the thread, just lynch me and get it over with. This is actually asinine.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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