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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2024 03:29 GMT
#3841
On March 07 2024 12:27 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 iamperfection wrote:
oats explain your vote on dmb

Literally entirely through eod and the night it’s there? What are you talking about

i mean did you not read what just happened ???

Like what are you talking about? It makes 0 sense for slam to do what he did as mafia, I don’t see any ccs or any softed CCs



Be honest if it wasn‘t you, what would you do ?
There‘s not much choice here.

But we can pretend at least.

If like koshi got red checked? I’m not lynching him

oats dmb dumb town telled and you ignored it.

It’s way too dumb to be real she asked the same question like 5 times cmon now
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22084 Posts
March 07 2024 03:30 GMT
#3842
On March 07 2024 12:29 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:29 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:27 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:26 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:24 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:24 DarthPunk wrote:
ANNOUNCEMENT TOWN

I have been given a Vig shot in the night.

I intend to VIG TTS.


whoa whoa whoa so we allegedly have 4 blues. 3 really strong ones and one weak one ?


Is gunsmith that weak>


So you aren't scared of a rollblocker? I guess jailkeeper is still alive... not sure why you wouldn't keep that quiet until night.


YES I KNOW I FORGOT ABOUT A ROLEBLOCKER


I'm over here facepalming. Although that does seem like a town move to make.



Okay thoughts town should gunsmith claim now? No reason not to right?


DP getting it points at you already.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 07 2024 03:30 GMT
#3843
On March 07 2024 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:27 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 iamperfection wrote:
oats explain your vote on dmb

Literally entirely through eod and the night it’s there? What are you talking about

i mean did you not read what just happened ???

Like what are you talking about? It makes 0 sense for slam to do what he did as mafia, I don’t see any ccs or any softed CCs



Be honest if it wasn‘t you, what would you do ?
There‘s not much choice here.

But we can pretend at least.

If like koshi got red checked? I’m not lynching him

oats dmb dumb town telled and you ignored it.

It’s way too dumb to be real she asked the same question like 5 times cmon now

what do you mean ???
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 07 2024 03:31 GMT
#3844
why would the gunsmith claim? Unless they are in danger of getting lynched there is no reason to ?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2024 03:31 GMT
#3845
On March 07 2024 12:29 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:17 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Hi
Anyone voting outside of me or Oatsmaster better have a damned good reason

Not really sure if you realize that miller is a role

Only one way to find out.

##Vote: Oatsmaster

If you're confirmed scum, WP. If you flip VT (Miller), I'm sorry.

Explain how this makes sense? You thought I was town before the check, why would I not be town now?

Because I believe it is more likely that I was wrong in my read on you than the probability of all of the following combined:

Alakaslam claiming cop as mafia, getting away with it, and then claiming you are mafia +
Alakaslam and a Mafia Framer both targeting you at the same time +
Alakaslam targeting you N1 and you happen to be an Unaware Miller

No point in overthinking it beyond that IMO. You flip red, I vote red. You get lynched and flip green, we lynch Slam. If you're truly Unaware Miller and Slam is truly cop and is for whatever reason still alive, well, we get fucked. I don't see any other way around it.

What alternatives do you propose to the above reasoning?

You do realize that framer and miller are independent events right
Very ridiculous you are setting up this premise that I’m flipping green and then you yeet slam after
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22084 Posts
March 07 2024 03:31 GMT
#3846
On March 07 2024 12:31 iamperfection wrote:
why would the gunsmith claim? Unless they are in danger of getting lynched there is no reason to ?


Agree. It‘s just an obvious kill
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 07 2024 03:32 GMT
#3847
On March 07 2024 12:27 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:23 Rels wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:18 iamperfection wrote:
well we have 3 blue supposedly all that are very powerful.

3 blues for the amount of players is normal in my opinion. I would doubt a 4th claim, it would depend on the number of scum / their roles


4 blues.

That seems high to me. Read through the OP again, it's 16 town vs 5 scums
Maybe with the additional KP N1 and N2 it adds up ...?


Gracks setups are blue heavy IMO.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 07 2024 03:32 GMT
#3848
oh its one shot nevermind gunsmith should claim lol
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 07 2024 03:33 GMT
#3849
On March 07 2024 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:27 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 iamperfection wrote:
oats explain your vote on dmb

Literally entirely through eod and the night it’s there? What are you talking about

i mean did you not read what just happened ???

Like what are you talking about? It makes 0 sense for slam to do what he did as mafia, I don’t see any ccs or any softed CCs



Be honest if it wasn‘t you, what would you do ?
There‘s not much choice here.

But we can pretend at least.

If like koshi got red checked? I’m not lynching him

oats dmb dumb town telled and you ignored it.

It’s way too dumb to be real she asked the same question like 5 times cmon now


because nobody is fucking explaining to me
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2024 03:33 GMT
#3850
On March 07 2024 12:30 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:27 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 iamperfection wrote:
oats explain your vote on dmb

Literally entirely through eod and the night it’s there? What are you talking about

i mean did you not read what just happened ???

Like what are you talking about? It makes 0 sense for slam to do what he did as mafia, I don’t see any ccs or any softed CCs



Be honest if it wasn‘t you, what would you do ?
There‘s not much choice here.

But we can pretend at least.

If like koshi got red checked? I’m not lynching him

oats dmb dumb town telled and you ignored it.

It’s way too dumb to be real she asked the same question like 5 times cmon now

what do you mean ???

“Oh how are 2 people dead is this a vig whaa?”
Especially because there was convo pregame about kp too.
Like you really buy that a player sees 2 kills then doesn’t check the OP? I don’t
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2024 03:33 GMT
#3851
On March 07 2024 12:30 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:27 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 iamperfection wrote:
oats explain your vote on dmb

Literally entirely through eod and the night it’s there? What are you talking about

i mean did you not read what just happened ???

Like what are you talking about? It makes 0 sense for slam to do what he did as mafia, I don’t see any ccs or any softed CCs



Be honest if it wasn‘t you, what would you do ?
There‘s not much choice here.

But we can pretend at least.

If like koshi got red checked? I’m not lynching him

oats dmb dumb town telled and you ignored it.

It’s way too dumb to be real she asked the same question like 5 times cmon now

what do you mean ???

No gg, No skill.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 07 2024 03:33 GMT
#3852
Ok.

I don't have to use it right away, so I may use it tonight or I may not.

Maybe I get roleblocked, maybe I get shot, maybe I use the shot
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 07 2024 03:33 GMT
#3853
On March 07 2024 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:27 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 iamperfection wrote:
oats explain your vote on dmb

Literally entirely through eod and the night it’s there? What are you talking about

i mean did you not read what just happened ???

Like what are you talking about? It makes 0 sense for slam to do what he did as mafia, I don’t see any ccs or any softed CCs



Be honest if it wasn‘t you, what would you do ?
There‘s not much choice here.

But we can pretend at least.

If like koshi got red checked? I’m not lynching him

oats dmb dumb town telled and you ignored it.

It’s way too dumb to be real she asked the same question like 5 times cmon now

LOL
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,

I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time).
May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor?

Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.

Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.

Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day.

This literally makes no sense

On March 04 2024 12:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,

I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time).
May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor?

Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.

Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.

Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day.

This literally makes no sense

What about this is confusing you?

The voting is for the mayor firstly, so the 2nd top voter is the 2nd choice for mayor, secondly giving up your agency is super anti town

On March 04 2024 12:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,

I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time).
May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor?

Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.

Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.

Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day.
Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no?

And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor?

I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind.

Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1.

Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch.

Wait do you not know that there is only 1 vote for day 1 and that’s for the mayor

Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2024 03:34 GMT
#3854
On March 07 2024 12:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok.

I don't have to use it right away, so I may use it tonight or I may not.

Maybe I get roleblocked, maybe I get shot, maybe I use the shot

Silly dp
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2024 03:35 GMT
#3855
On March 07 2024 12:33 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:27 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 iamperfection wrote:
oats explain your vote on dmb

Literally entirely through eod and the night it’s there? What are you talking about

i mean did you not read what just happened ???

Like what are you talking about? It makes 0 sense for slam to do what he did as mafia, I don’t see any ccs or any softed CCs



Be honest if it wasn‘t you, what would you do ?
There‘s not much choice here.

But we can pretend at least.

If like koshi got red checked? I’m not lynching him

oats dmb dumb town telled and you ignored it.

It’s way too dumb to be real she asked the same question like 5 times cmon now

LOL
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,

I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time).
May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor?

Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.

Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.

Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day.

This literally makes no sense

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,

I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time).
May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor?

Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.

Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.

Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day.

This literally makes no sense

What about this is confusing you?

The voting is for the mayor firstly, so the 2nd top voter is the 2nd choice for mayor, secondly giving up your agency is super anti town

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,

I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time).
May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor?

Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.

Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.

Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day.
Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no?

And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor?

I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind.

Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1.

Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch.

Wait do you not know that there is only 1 vote for day 1 and that’s for the mayor


Hey I was completely confident that i was correct

No gg, No skill.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 07 2024 03:35 GMT
#3856
On March 07 2024 12:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok.

I don't have to use it right away, so I may use it tonight or I may not.

Maybe I get roleblocked, maybe I get shot, maybe I use the shot

Maybe vivax will JK me if I do get roleblocked.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10226 Posts
March 07 2024 03:35 GMT
#3857
On March 07 2024 12:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:29 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:17 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Hi
Anyone voting outside of me or Oatsmaster better have a damned good reason

Not really sure if you realize that miller is a role

Only one way to find out.

##Vote: Oatsmaster

If you're confirmed scum, WP. If you flip VT (Miller), I'm sorry.

Explain how this makes sense? You thought I was town before the check, why would I not be town now?

Because I believe it is more likely that I was wrong in my read on you than the probability of all of the following combined:

Alakaslam claiming cop as mafia, getting away with it, and then claiming you are mafia +
Alakaslam and a Mafia Framer both targeting you at the same time +
Alakaslam targeting you N1 and you happen to be an Unaware Miller

No point in overthinking it beyond that IMO. You flip red, I vote red. You get lynched and flip green, we lynch Slam. If you're truly Unaware Miller and Slam is truly cop and is for whatever reason still alive, well, we get fucked. I don't see any other way around it.

What alternatives do you propose to the above reasoning?

You do realize that framer and miller are independent events right
Very ridiculous you are setting up this premise that I’m flipping green and then you yeet slam after

Yea, I'm saying that the probability of all three of those events combined is still less likely than me just being wrong in my read on you.

In other words, if there is a 10% chance of A, 10% chance of B, and 10% chance of C, but a >40% chance of me just being straight up wrong in my D1/N1 reads, I'm going with the >40% chance. Again, props or sorry, whichever happens happens.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 07 2024 03:35 GMT
#3858
On March 07 2024 12:29 Vivax wrote:
I suspect she got instructed to fake dumbtell.
Which means the mafia is in dumpster fire mode.


yeah because I would listen to orders people instructions... will not happen

But as nobody is goeing to explain it to me i go sleep and you all can fuck off.I already now the obs would be nicer to me -.-
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 07 2024 03:35 GMT
#3859
On March 07 2024 12:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:30 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:27 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:19 iamperfection wrote:
oats explain your vote on dmb

Literally entirely through eod and the night it’s there? What are you talking about

i mean did you not read what just happened ???

Like what are you talking about? It makes 0 sense for slam to do what he did as mafia, I don’t see any ccs or any softed CCs



Be honest if it wasn‘t you, what would you do ?
There‘s not much choice here.

But we can pretend at least.

If like koshi got red checked? I’m not lynching him

oats dmb dumb town telled and you ignored it.

It’s way too dumb to be real she asked the same question like 5 times cmon now

what do you mean ???


it was once and just an extra response to my prod.
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On March 07 2024 12:30 Vivax wrote:
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On March 07 2024 12:29 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:29 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:27 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:26 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:24 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:24 DarthPunk wrote:
ANNOUNCEMENT TOWN

I have been given a Vig shot in the night.

I intend to VIG TTS.


whoa whoa whoa so we allegedly have 4 blues. 3 really strong ones and one weak one ?


Is gunsmith that weak>


So you aren't scared of a rollblocker? I guess jailkeeper is still alive... not sure why you wouldn't keep that quiet until night.


YES I KNOW I FORGOT ABOUT A ROLEBLOCKER


I'm over here facepalming. Although that does seem like a town move to make.



Okay thoughts town should gunsmith claim now? No reason not to right?


DP getting it points at you already.



Yeah okay, initially I was giving it to Koshi but then I started reading Koshi's filter hence my random flip on Koshi out of nowhere when I saw the scum slip.

I then thought probably DP because Rayn or Sand are the most town to most of town and most likely to be killed (although I had a pm open with give gun to ray ready to go as I was trying to snipe DP's post to know if I SHOULD give it to him or not)

Also backed up by DP talking a lot about what he wanted VIG to do and thus if he did something cray I could pin it on him later.

and yeah it's one shot gunsmith clarified with Grack..

Now if this isn't clearly enough proof I'm gun smith just from game state. I breadcrumbed initially giving gun to Koshi in the gay thread. well not like breakcrumbed breadcrumbed but implied I was all in on his conspiracy plan (the one AMERICAN of the classy group who HUNTED FOX's) Then if you noticed all my talk about how many blues are there after jack of all trades died. then my talk before the night ended concerned more with finding the most town person to give gun to rather than scum hunting.



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