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On March 09 2024 13:20 Rels wrote:
@Anyone does scum!Palmar fake 2 dumbtells in a single post? Taking in consideration that people have scumread DMB for dumbtelling
Link it for me.
Yes I’m lazy.
Just gave my thought on Palmar which I’ve been sitting on for the whole of d2 waiting for the flip
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On March 09 2024 13:23 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 06:59 Palmar wrote:
So like I'm going to try to sort of organize the game in my head, and I'm going to do it out loud, so you can watch me think. It's a fascinating display.
We probably have about 5 mafia in this game. It could be 4, but then they have very strong roles. Normal balance would suggest 5.
This means I need to start sort of filtering down the people I want to think about.
First up, the people I don't really want to lynch or even consider at all:
DarthPunk for huge filter and repeatedly liking his takes on things.
Vivax because that's the gamble we made when we didn't policy lynch him.
Then there's the weaker town reads that are definitely going to contain some mafia:
Koshi was very good early day 1, but I feel like his impact has been reduced. Still not enough to start calling him mafia
marvellosity - I kinda think he's maybe town, he did come around on me correctly, and I kinda trust sandro's read. So for what it's worth, he goes into the "worry later" pile.
Then there's the people who will be resolved by today
Slam - we lynch slam if Oats flips non-miller town. The frame idea is statistically so unlikely
Oats - we lynch Oats today because despite his efforts, there is like 90% chance of him flipping mafia. He does look and say townie things which is pretty well played, but the odds of any other random player flipping red just happen to be significantly lower
Frame math:
Slam check 1/18 (lynches + himself) players = 5.56% chance he checks Oats
Framer frames 1/14 players (21 - 2 lynches - 5 mafia) = 7.14% chance Oats gets framed
This means there's like... 0.3% chance a framer hits the same target the cop checks (but obviously intiution skews this a lot) it's still the best play to do it like that.
Actually as I write this I realize I have way too few townread, which means I really, really need to get work done. For one reason or another I don't trust any of the people below.
Jealous - lack of investigation from me, little posting
Meapak_Ziphh - lack of investigation from me, I'm masoned with the dude but I'm a terrible mason partner because I think they're stupid. That's mostly on me. I also recall some of his posting being a little meek
justanothertownie - Some really atrocious takes throughout the game. Bullshit associative reads and voting without any kind of analysis.
die_meatbaby - lack of investigation from me. I remember having a different feel from last game, but she still gets stuck on dumb shit.
CopCake - I kinda liked rayn's point during the night. Also she should really think I'm town after our discussion in the night.
JacobStrangelove - This guy is clearly just smart. I liked his posting because it's all pretty reasonable, but I feel like he isn't moving the needle at all this game. Happy sitting back and not getting listened to.
Iamperfection - One particularly terrible take during the night, but maybe he just doesn't know what a policy lynch is. I didn't follow up enough to understand if it was malicious or just kinda stupid.
ToTheStars - lurker
VisceraEyes - Fell off cliff. Where VE?
Rels - Terrible case on me on day 1 that reeked of mafia trying to "contribute". Super clear he wasn't caught up on the game and lacked opinionsþ
The 2 dumbtells are in that post ("4 or 5 mafia", "JSL could be scum even though he claimed") I might be biaised by this but I really like this Palmar post. Feels like a really genuine world view
Right this one. Yes palmar is town.
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On March 09 2024 14:14 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 14:09 Rels wrote:On March 09 2024 13:54 Jealous wrote:On March 09 2024 13:15 iamperfection wrote:
so the dumb town tell that oats didnt see right after the day post. So DMB town for sure. Dont think bus right there. I WIFOM'd on this for a while because I already put myself in "Oats is scum" world right after the flip, so the question was "is there any way this was a coordinated bus?" Ockham's razor says "no." So does Hanlon's. So at this point DMB has to be town IMO. At least that is the null hypothesis until every other option has been exhausted. Honestly pains me to say it, too. I thought I read all posts and yet I don't follow what iamperfection and you are saying. What's the reasoning being made here? Oats voted DMB basically within a minute of being outed as scum. Plausible he saw himself be outed. I figure it is likely he didn't unless he had that play locked and ready, which would be super legendary. So, razors say DMB has to he town. Should be on the same page as the N1 post or very close to it.
Not 100% comvinced by this reasoning
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On March 09 2024 14:33 Rels wrote:FALSE ALARM Oats spent like, the entirety of N1 (and even before) talking about how scummy DMB is Whether DMB is scum or not, it doesn't matter. Voting DMB at the beginning of D2 just makes sense, regardless or her alignment. It's just the automatic play + Show Spoiler +On March 06 2024 11:31 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 11:26 Rels wrote:
Well looks like I won't be able to join after all. My daughter is still not well and is still not sleeping so I'm staying with her until she's better. Will try to phone read and post if she starts to sleep but no guarantee . Will also switch to JAT since nobody is on the Palmar wagon anymore Vote for dmb On March 06 2024 12:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dmb :> 🪓 On March 06 2024 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 12:34 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 06 2024 12:31 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 12:28 die_meatbaby wrote:
So it´s scummy that she wasted her vote (in my opinion it is a bit scummy)
But it is also scummy for you that I didn´t waste my vote and tried to vote one of wagons I would rather have lynched even I didn´t want to lynch both... What the hell is wrong with you. Either of your aligment the play is bad I was voting for you so that I could determine your alignment that's it. You know how I play as Town and usuallly you play smart so you should be aware of my aligment aready as slam is. But maybe you are not as smart as I thougt. You just was helping oatsmaster, who is a big scumread in my list btw Oh now I’m a scumread? Lol you can’t keep your story straight On March 06 2024 12:43 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 10:59 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 06 2024 10:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 10:51 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 10:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 10:49 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 10:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 10:44 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote:Especially when she is joining my wagon  I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town... This is a scumslip I don't see it. Reasonable town lynch ie jat is town Is that a stretch though, could be ESL What’s the difficulty? She’s callling the lynch town AND shes on it Can you read? I didn´t say JAT is Town i just said I am not happy with both wagons. Should I waste my vote. Did it in my first game. OPEN YOU EYES AND READ CORRECTLY PLS This is not how people talk to their scumread On March 07 2024 02:42 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 02:26 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 06 2024 10:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 10:44 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote:Especially when she is joining my wagon I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town... This is a scumslip word nr.4 today. Thank you  love to improve my english Maybe just tired and annoyed about stupid people here. Either wagons are not a good D1 lynch Oats, this is the dumb scum slip according to you, right? That is not correct On March 07 2024 02:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
It’s the nested quote inside the one that I directly responded to saying it’s a scumslip On March 07 2024 03:07 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 07 2024 02:43 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2024 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jacob comes off as really really townie on all fronts Explain?? All of that shit where he says he has never been lynched as town and makes a case on himself. That Koshi case is also townie for him i think, if anyone DP looks like shit there when agreeing with him and not telling him the real deal. I don’t understand how he thinks koshis thing is a scumslip while dmbs thing wasn’t to him On March 07 2024 08:16 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 08:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 07 2024 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm okay he actually went to read dmb's filter.
i retract my analysis and await for Jacob to answer. Tbh You'll have to bring up which post exactly is the DMB Scum slip post again. It's probably because I'm a highly empathetic person tbh I try to get in people's heads and understand where they're coming from from what I've seen of DMB it seems in line with their ESL style so it didn't phase me. (I say not remembering exactly which post they slipped in) Koshi on the other hand strikes me as someone who wouldn't phrase things "Incorrectly" as town without first clarifying he was doing a "In this senario" style post. Where as people with higher empathy (generally) women and particualy ESL speakers who have to try and get in people's thoughts constantly, would. Along with the slight barrier with communicating being in someones's head. If that makes sense. On March 07 2024 04:41 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 04:39 CopCake wrote:On March 07 2024 04:36 marvellosity wrote:
POIDH Rels is also cute I feel like we need a girls chat OMG totally should all make a list of the hottest guys it'll be fun. Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 10:44 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote:Especially when she is joining my wagon I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town... Here was the post Jacob. Literally has nothing to do with empathy or whatever On March 07 2024 09:15 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 08:30 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 07 2024 08:16 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2024 08:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 07 2024 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm okay he actually went to read dmb's filter.
i retract my analysis and await for Jacob to answer. Tbh You'll have to bring up which post exactly is the DMB Scum slip post again. It's probably because I'm a highly empathetic person tbh I try to get in people's heads and understand where they're coming from from what I've seen of DMB it seems in line with their ESL style so it didn't phase me. (I say not remembering exactly which post they slipped in) Koshi on the other hand strikes me as someone who wouldn't phrase things "Incorrectly" as town without first clarifying he was doing a "In this senario" style post. Where as people with higher empathy (generally) women and particualy ESL speakers who have to try and get in people's thoughts constantly, would. Along with the slight barrier with communicating being in someones's head. If that makes sense. On March 07 2024 04:41 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 04:39 CopCake wrote:On March 07 2024 04:36 marvellosity wrote:
POIDH Rels is also cute I feel like we need a girls chat OMG totally should all make a list of the hottest guys it'll be fun. On March 06 2024 10:44 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote:Especially when she is joining my wagon I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town... Here was the post Jacob. Literally has nothing to do with empathy or whatever Ahh no I still don't think it's a scum slip. See here "I don´t really saw you making a wagon." From my perspective you aren't making a case "It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever." You're just saying they look scummy and pushing people to vote for them. *This is where the empathy kicks in, the implication here being that DP is mafia for doing this. "Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia" You're not looking for mafia you are mafia. "here just for a reasonable town lynch" As mafia you're just looking for a town lynch "where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town..." Where as Mafia you have safety from a flip. This is directly different from Koshi's post where it's litterally. "Oh yo when you flip town this will be helpful but it's not right now" Koshi is obviously talking about the scenario which marv flips town. Like when that happens. Not that it will happen…. Okay we can agree to disagree about the wording whatever however she’s literally voting for the person that DP is on at this time which she literally does not care about On March 07 2024 09:27 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 09:18 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 07 2024 09:15 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2024 08:30 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 07 2024 08:16 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2024 08:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 07 2024 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm okay he actually went to read dmb's filter.
i retract my analysis and await for Jacob to answer. Tbh You'll have to bring up which post exactly is the DMB Scum slip post again. It's probably because I'm a highly empathetic person tbh I try to get in people's heads and understand where they're coming from from what I've seen of DMB it seems in line with their ESL style so it didn't phase me. (I say not remembering exactly which post they slipped in) Koshi on the other hand strikes me as someone who wouldn't phrase things "Incorrectly" as town without first clarifying he was doing a "In this senario" style post. Where as people with higher empathy (generally) women and particualy ESL speakers who have to try and get in people's thoughts constantly, would. Along with the slight barrier with communicating being in someones's head. If that makes sense. On March 07 2024 04:41 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 04:39 CopCake wrote:On March 07 2024 04:36 marvellosity wrote:
POIDH Rels is also cute I feel like we need a girls chat OMG totally should all make a list of the hottest guys it'll be fun. On March 06 2024 10:44 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote:Especially when she is joining my wagon I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town... Here was the post Jacob. Literally has nothing to do with empathy or whatever Ahh no I still don't think it's a scum slip. See here "I don´t really saw you making a wagon." From my perspective you aren't making a case "It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever." You're just saying they look scummy and pushing people to vote for them. *This is where the empathy kicks in, the implication here being that DP is mafia for doing this. "Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia" You're not looking for mafia you are mafia. "here just for a reasonable town lynch" As mafia you're just looking for a town lynch "where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town..." Where as Mafia you have safety from a flip. This is directly different from Koshi's post where it's litterally. "Oh yo when you flip town this will be helpful but it's not right now" Koshi is obviously talking about the scenario which marv flips town. Like when that happens. Not that it will happen…. Okay we can agree to disagree about the wording whatever however she’s literally voting for the person that DP is on at this time which she literally does not care about Look the second part I also disagree with, if she doesn't vote one of the top two lynches it's a wasted vote, like the three people who basically avoided the lynch entirely if she does she's gotta pick one of the two options. You've put them in a catch-22 scenario here where there's no winning. She either votes the lesser of the two evils and is scummy or votes for neither and is scummy. The point is that it doesn’t enter her mind at all that that’s the situation. She barely talks about either of them, just randomly starts ranting at me and DP. On March 07 2024 12:01 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Regardless of what I think about cake, but it seems to me that he picks weaker players to annoy until they make a mistake because of beeing annoyd and then he can push the wagon that comes up. Why he didn´t do that do players like Koshi, marv or rayn. They wouldn´t fear Dp.
This is so Tmi it’s crazy, she knows that these players are town or what?? On March 07 2024 12:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote dmb
Oats can just bus. He doesn’t have high influence
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Okay. Unlike end of night 1 which I’ve still not read, I will actually catch up on EOD this time at some point today (I am very busy) because it’s important.
My feeling without having read it is we should absolutely lynch VE.
Curious for myself I’d the content will change that
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I’d / if. Sorry for post spam
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Just have visions of VE getting animated in mafia discord about doing an epic playzzzz double bus
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Oh. VE didn’t post?
Ignore everything I said.
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This is why I should read everything before posting. But then I wouldn’t post and that’s boring xD
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Yes, of course you’re the natural NK target VE
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On March 09 2024 18:10 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 18:09 marvellosity wrote:
Yes, of course you’re the natural NK target VE
🙄 Oh no marv is mafia that's so sad.
By your own posts you don’t think this as I was on oats 
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On March 09 2024 18:25 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 18:21 marvellosity wrote:On March 09 2024 18:10 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 09 2024 18:09 marvellosity wrote:
Yes, of course you’re the natural NK target VE
🙄 Oh no marv is mafia that's so sad. By your own posts you don’t think this as I was on oats I don't think anything, I haven't read anything. I bet if I looked in your filter I'd find a bunch of humhawing about lynching me all D2 won't I marv, even though you were "on oats"
Pretty clear from my filter I was always gonna end on oats. But knock yourself out.
None of these posts are townie posts.
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On March 09 2024 21:41 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 20:28 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2024 16:45 marvellosity wrote:On March 09 2024 16:41 Palmar wrote:On March 09 2024 16:38 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote:
I read like 2 posts of Oats and he's scummy Palmar, this was right near the start. What had pinged you? Genuinely curious here. It was the fact he said he wanted to be mayor. But then never really did anything to convince people he should be. Instead all his following posts were stupid questions and passive posts. I then let his reasonableness in the face of dumbassery on part of other people convince me he was town. Yep okay. I think I need to stop being a pussy and just call you town. I am really struggling to see the world you drop the suspicion on him like that as his buddy. It’s just you seeing something and saying it. I didn’t get it at the time, but obvs I am just had That is really not convincing to me so I have to hope that it is just a longer list of tone things I don't understand that leads you to your read. Because I cannot see it. Unless you are wifoming mafia here but I think you would not do that anyways. urgh I agree with this. I don't understand either marv. A throwaway line is enough to make palmar town?
Get on my level then.
May be tragically low depending on circumstances.
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On March 09 2024 23:20 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 23:19 marvellosity wrote:On March 09 2024 21:41 iamperfection wrote:On March 09 2024 20:28 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2024 16:45 marvellosity wrote:On March 09 2024 16:41 Palmar wrote:On March 09 2024 16:38 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote:
I read like 2 posts of Oats and he's scummy Palmar, this was right near the start. What had pinged you? Genuinely curious here. It was the fact he said he wanted to be mayor. But then never really did anything to convince people he should be. Instead all his following posts were stupid questions and passive posts. I then let his reasonableness in the face of dumbassery on part of other people convince me he was town. Yep okay. I think I need to stop being a pussy and just call you town. I am really struggling to see the world you drop the suspicion on him like that as his buddy. It’s just you seeing something and saying it. I didn’t get it at the time, but obvs I am just had That is really not convincing to me so I have to hope that it is just a longer list of tone things I don't understand that leads you to your read. Because I cannot see it. Unless you are wifoming mafia here but I think you would not do that anyways. urgh I agree with this. I don't understand either marv. A throwaway line is enough to make palmar town? Get on my level then. May be tragically low depending on circumstances. Who is the mafia then?
You tell me
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Staring at the filter list, we’re getting into PoE territory. Most of all I want to see VE flip.
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On March 09 2024 11:52 CopCake wrote:
Let it be known I think the mafia team is Palmar, DP, jelaous, etc
Ill be voting Ve to save oats
Can you explain the total about turn on your previous reads, CC?
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On March 09 2024 23:27 iamperfection wrote:I'll give you one for sure then you give me one. TTS
I think these people are town
DP
Vivax
Jealous
Palmar
Cc
Jsl
Iamp
Koshi
Slam
Poe is the rest. But tbh I would be shocked if all the above are town.
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[QUOTE]On March 09 2024 23:36 justanothertownie wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 09 2024 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 09 2024 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 09 2024 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
This isn’t a democracy[/QUOTE]
I'll give you one for sure then you give me one. TTS[/QUOTE]
I think these people are town
DP
Vivax
Jealous
Palmar
Cc
Jsl
Iamp
Koshi
Slam
Poe is the rest. But tbh I would be shocked if all the above are town. [/QUOTED]
Are you caught up by now? Gotta say that people like CC, Iamp, Jealous and even Koshi at this point appearing here while I don't is starting to annoy me.[/QUOTE]
No I’m not. I’ve had social stuff. It’s dawned on me I’ve not read almost 50 pages of the game. I probably have an hour or so so maybe I should go do that.
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