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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22088 Posts
March 05 2024 17:21 GMT
#2161
On March 06 2024 02:20 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 02:16 Vivax wrote:
Maybe she wants me to vote trfel, unvote him and then move back to someone who might actually get lynched.

2muchwork


You started Oats, that should have been too much effort too.


No because I don‘t know his alignment beforehand.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 05 2024 17:22 GMT
#2162
On March 06 2024 02:20 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 02:17 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 02:14 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 02:12 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 02:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:49 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:45 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:40 CopCake wrote:
[quote]

The claim itself is just stupid, how he wants tfrel dead considering the last game, I dont think he is scumhunting

His reads

[quote]

and an hour later

[quote]


read progressions are not ok



Out of curiosity, have you played with vivax before?
And secondly, have you read the game you linked earlier?


Yeah, I have played with Vivax and yeah, that is why I said Tfrel MVP there.

So with what you linked, how is that not typical vivax? He literally does that that’s vivax


I do not understand his claim, when he knows he might suffer the danger of getting misslynched anyways because the claim is just so bad to be true. Which makes me believe that he could be mafia with at least two big names.

I want to rule out that probability, as easy as that.

Yes you said this already.
The question I’m asking is if you think he’s mafia then there has to be things other than the claim that he’s doing that’s scummy


How many times has vivax said he wants tfrel dead?

How many votes have Tfrel gotten?

On March 05 2024 23:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

Mayor

Vivax (10): raynpelikoneet, Rels, Vivax, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, Koshi, Alakaslam, JacobStrangelove, Meapak_Ziphh, marvellosity, Palmar
raynpelikoneet (2): JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, raynpelikoneet, Iamperfection, raynpelikoneet
Oatsmaster (1): Oatsmaster
Koshi (1): Koshi, justanothertownie


Not Voting (7): sandroba, Trfel, Jealous, CopCake, Hapahauli, ToTheStars, VisceraEyes

With 9 votes, Vivax is currently set to be elected!

Lynch

Palmar (5) : marvellosity, justanothertownie, Alakaslam, sandroba, DarthPunk, Koshi
ToTheStars (2): Rels, CopCake, JacobStrangelove
Oatsmaster (2) : Vivax, VisceraEyes, DarthPunk
VisceraEyes (2): iamperfection, sandroba, Vivax, Oatsmaster
Justanothertownie (2): sandroba, Palmar
JacobStrangelove (1): CopCake, DarthPunk
DarthPunk (1) : raynpelikoneet
CopCake (1): Oatsmaster, DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh
iamperfection (0): DarthPunk
Koshi (0) : JacobStrangelove, Oatsmaster, sandroba
raynpelikoneet (0) : DarthPunk
Alakaslam (0) Oatsmaster, CopCake
Vivax (0): Alakaslam

Not Voting(5): Trfel, Jealous, die_meatbaby, Hapahauli, ToTheStars

With 5 votes, Palmar is currently set to be lynched!

Let me know if you see any votes misplaced

The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 06 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in




Do you not think that is weird?

Why is it weird?


If you have town attention because you are a PR, and you think this person is certain mafia, why not start a wagon there? Why go for an inactive?

"Oh he was inactive"

(I know Oats is not inactive anymore)

Sorry I thought you were saying something else. I got you now.

CC, there’s a reason you’re alone on this. There are 2 possibilities, go with me here:

1. You’re right and everyone else is wrong
2. You’re wrong and everyone else is right.

I’m not saying it has to be 2, but you should give some thought to why no one is dancing with you on this.


Closing all probabilities is what makes town lose.

And I dont want Vivax mayor, but it is what it is.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22088 Posts
March 05 2024 17:23 GMT
#2163
Having a jailkeeper as mayor is too much like America no surprise it scares the mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 05 2024 17:24 GMT
#2164
Yeah, I heard blues claiming on day1 always scares the mafia a lot.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2024 17:26 GMT
#2165
On March 06 2024 02:22 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 02:20 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 02:17 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 02:14 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 02:12 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 02:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:49 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:45 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
[quote]
Out of curiosity, have you played with vivax before?
And secondly, have you read the game you linked earlier?


Yeah, I have played with Vivax and yeah, that is why I said Tfrel MVP there.

So with what you linked, how is that not typical vivax? He literally does that that’s vivax


I do not understand his claim, when he knows he might suffer the danger of getting misslynched anyways because the claim is just so bad to be true. Which makes me believe that he could be mafia with at least two big names.

I want to rule out that probability, as easy as that.

Yes you said this already.
The question I’m asking is if you think he’s mafia then there has to be things other than the claim that he’s doing that’s scummy


How many times has vivax said he wants tfrel dead?

How many votes have Tfrel gotten?

On March 05 2024 23:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

Mayor

Vivax (10): raynpelikoneet, Rels, Vivax, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, Koshi, Alakaslam, JacobStrangelove, Meapak_Ziphh, marvellosity, Palmar
raynpelikoneet (2): JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, raynpelikoneet, Iamperfection, raynpelikoneet
Oatsmaster (1): Oatsmaster
Koshi (1): Koshi, justanothertownie


Not Voting (7): sandroba, Trfel, Jealous, CopCake, Hapahauli, ToTheStars, VisceraEyes

With 9 votes, Vivax is currently set to be elected!

Lynch

Palmar (5) : marvellosity, justanothertownie, Alakaslam, sandroba, DarthPunk, Koshi
ToTheStars (2): Rels, CopCake, JacobStrangelove
Oatsmaster (2) : Vivax, VisceraEyes, DarthPunk
VisceraEyes (2): iamperfection, sandroba, Vivax, Oatsmaster
Justanothertownie (2): sandroba, Palmar
JacobStrangelove (1): CopCake, DarthPunk
DarthPunk (1) : raynpelikoneet
CopCake (1): Oatsmaster, DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh
iamperfection (0): DarthPunk
Koshi (0) : JacobStrangelove, Oatsmaster, sandroba
raynpelikoneet (0) : DarthPunk
Alakaslam (0) Oatsmaster, CopCake
Vivax (0): Alakaslam

Not Voting(5): Trfel, Jealous, die_meatbaby, Hapahauli, ToTheStars

With 5 votes, Palmar is currently set to be lynched!

Let me know if you see any votes misplaced

The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 06 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in




Do you not think that is weird?

Why is it weird?


If you have town attention because you are a PR, and you think this person is certain mafia, why not start a wagon there? Why go for an inactive?

"Oh he was inactive"

(I know Oats is not inactive anymore)

Sorry I thought you were saying something else. I got you now.

CC, there’s a reason you’re alone on this. There are 2 possibilities, go with me here:

1. You’re right and everyone else is wrong
2. You’re wrong and everyone else is right.

I’m not saying it has to be 2, but you should give some thought to why no one is dancing with you on this.


Closing all probabilities is what makes town lose.

And I dont want Vivax mayor, but it is what it is.

That’s not what I said though. Just think about it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 05 2024 17:27 GMT
#2166
On March 06 2024 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 01:53 Koshi wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nobody wants to talk to me or what

I made a towncase on you

Thanks bestie
But that’s talking about me not to me smh.
Talk to me about marv pls

Not much to say. He decided to hide part 1.
He then came out and voted palmar which was at that time a good vote. He forced palmar to do things and put himself open to be attacked by a town Palmar.
The reasons why marv finds Palmar mafia are his own. I can't relate as much. But like I said, Palmar very lazily piled onto you and he should have done better there.
Can't be a lurker, get called out by marv, and then be lazy in the 5 serious posts you try to make.

So he was ok because the vote he made, then became more than ok after Palmar failed to deliver.
I had a good night of sleep.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 05 2024 17:27 GMT
#2167
This has been talked to death.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 05 2024 17:30 GMT
#2168
Hey JAT what's your take on the game? Where is the mafia? If you had your wish and Koshi got elected, who should he lynch?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2024 17:31 GMT
#2169
On March 06 2024 02:12 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 02:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:49 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:45 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:40 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:29 CopCake wrote:
Like, I dont understand why is it so bad to question Vivax claim.

I have the right to do it if I wanted to.


Okay so outside of the claim, how is vivax mafia


The claim itself is just stupid, how he wants tfrel dead considering the last game, I dont think he is scumhunting

His reads

On March 05 2024 23:13 Vivax wrote:
I think rayn has a decent chance to flip mafia by the way.
Cop says he can't be because he'd be angrier but there's nothing that says he isn't simply more restrained in this game.

I'm moving cop out of the mafia pool just because of what Koshi said about her and good intentions. I still think she was struggling back then and took way too long to join the chorus calling my claim awful.

Iamperfection has dropped off a lot and looks a lot like Oats at this point. I just don't see any motivation to find the right lynch here. Erratic play. I believe Oats still didn't deliver an estimation of marv and Sandroba like I asked.

I don't want to lynch Palmar. I think marv is doing jack shit, and he didn't try to run for mayor for it. The Palmar vote was his first meaningful contribution, and everyone treated it like some high priest tossed a piece of metal from a pyramid and they went wild chasing it while screeching like a bunch of teenies at a rock concert.

I also think marv is kinda avoidant of DP and I know that marv has to fear DP if he's mafia. Him masoning Sandoba over DP is bad and might explain DPs lower effort.

MZ, Rels reasonable and pro-town all around but also a bit synthetic and lacking emotion for now. Not on the table for D1 I think and they have shown that they know what it takes to not lose to a casino.

DMB I think town. I liked most of the placements in her list and she had a golden opportunity to fall into her meta of antagonizing me just for fun and blending in with others doing so. I don't think she'd want a JK as mayor as mafia either.

That's about it for now. Otherwise:

Hapa joined discord and didn't post at all so I think it's due we make him the main secondary wagon that I can kill but I also need town's consent for it. Jealous works too, just make it visible please.


and an hour later

On March 06 2024 00:10 Vivax wrote:
Slam, iamp, TTS, Hapa

Man this game is easy



read progressions are not ok



Out of curiosity, have you played with vivax before?
And secondly, have you read the game you linked earlier?


Yeah, I have played with Vivax and yeah, that is why I said Tfrel MVP there.

So with what you linked, how is that not typical vivax? He literally does that that’s vivax


I do not understand his claim, when he knows he might suffer the danger of getting misslynched anyways because the claim is just so bad to be true. Which makes me believe that he could be mafia with at least two big names.

I want to rule out that probability, as easy as that.

Yes you said this already.
The question I’m asking is if you think he’s mafia then there has to be things other than the claim that he’s doing that’s scummy


How many times has vivax said he wants tfrel dead?

How many votes have Tfrel gotten?

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 23:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

Mayor

Vivax (10): raynpelikoneet, Rels, Vivax, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, Koshi, Alakaslam, JacobStrangelove, Meapak_Ziphh, marvellosity, Palmar
raynpelikoneet (2): JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, raynpelikoneet, Iamperfection, raynpelikoneet
Oatsmaster (1): Oatsmaster
Koshi (1): Koshi, justanothertownie


Not Voting (7): sandroba, Trfel, Jealous, CopCake, Hapahauli, ToTheStars, VisceraEyes

With 9 votes, Vivax is currently set to be elected!

Lynch

Palmar (5) : marvellosity, justanothertownie, Alakaslam, sandroba, DarthPunk, Koshi
ToTheStars (2): Rels, CopCake, JacobStrangelove
Oatsmaster (2) : Vivax, VisceraEyes, DarthPunk
VisceraEyes (2): iamperfection, sandroba, Vivax, Oatsmaster
Justanothertownie (2): sandroba, Palmar
JacobStrangelove (1): CopCake, DarthPunk
DarthPunk (1) : raynpelikoneet
CopCake (1): Oatsmaster, DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh
iamperfection (0): DarthPunk
Koshi (0) : JacobStrangelove, Oatsmaster, sandroba
raynpelikoneet (0) : DarthPunk
Alakaslam (0) Oatsmaster, CopCake
Vivax (0): Alakaslam

Not Voting(5): Trfel, Jealous, die_meatbaby, Hapahauli, ToTheStars

With 5 votes, Palmar is currently set to be lynched!

Let me know if you see any votes misplaced

The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 06 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in




Do you not think that is weird?

Why is that scummy?
No gg, No skill.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 05 2024 17:32 GMT
#2170
On March 06 2024 02:30 sandroba wrote:
Hey JAT what's your take on the game? Where is the mafia? If you had your wish and Koshi got elected, who should he lynch?

In addition to Palmar you mean?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2024 17:32 GMT
#2171
On March 06 2024 02:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 02:30 sandroba wrote:
Hey JAT what's your take on the game? Where is the mafia? If you had your wish and Koshi got elected, who should he lynch?

In addition to Palmar you mean?

Obviously
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 05 2024 17:33 GMT
#2172
On March 06 2024 02:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 02:30 sandroba wrote:
Hey JAT what's your take on the game? Where is the mafia? If you had your wish and Koshi got elected, who should he lynch?

In addition to Palmar you mean?

Assuming palmar gets normal lynched
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2024 17:33 GMT
#2173
On March 06 2024 02:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 02:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 02:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2024 02:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 05 2024 23:26 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 05 2024 23:13 Palmar wrote:
JAT looks pretty bad. He has said pretty much nothing about me except that comment about not agreeing with my logic on how Vivax needs to be treated, which isn't alignment indicative.

And he's trying to kill me.

And his filter is shorter than mine so he can't even claim lurker lynch

Well, I think it should be obvious that I am 100 % sheeping right now to see where this goes. I don't have a reason of my own except for the lack of reasons to townread you.

So call me town baby

For what?
On March 05 2024 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2024 19:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 05 2024 17:05 marvellosity wrote:
Iamp, i take back my criticism of your VE vote. I’m not convinced but I don’t think it’s bad.

As I’m not gonna be here, doing this to make life easier.

##mayor: Vivax

Do you really think that's the play here? Or are you just being lazy? I think mafia is super happy with Vivax being the guy they cannot shoot instead of someone who can actually lead lynches on them. People here put too much stock in roles and not enough in playing the game imo. But I would expect you not to.

I would much prefer you being obv town and going for mayor.

Yes and yes Jat, to be brutally honest.

To an extent it’s a thread cleanup exercise. It’s clear that the mayor shouting is a horrible distraction. If we just vote for Vivax mafia can’t hide behind that anymore.

Clearly it wasn’t my first choice originally but i feel it’s just the right thing to do here.

Well, I disagree and I will stand by that. The mayor thing is at least as important as the lynch today and you guys are currently wasting the opportunity to make a town leader unkillable. But I have said my part. Guess it is Vivax time to shine if he is town.

How is the situation being wasted in your perspective? Vivax is currently the runaway leader to be mayor

Did you not read any of my other posts about this subject?

Not really sure how they are relevant to the question I’m asking, answer the question

They are very important since it is more or less impossible that you read them without taking away that I think Vivax as mayor is a bad choice. How can you be interested in this topic without knowing this?

Not really sure why you phrased the earlier post the way you did but okay. I’m also not a fan of how you vaguely referred to “town leader” instead of a specific person, that feels very unnatural
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2024 17:35 GMT
#2174
On March 06 2024 02:27 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:53 Koshi wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nobody wants to talk to me or what

I made a towncase on you

Thanks bestie
But that’s talking about me not to me smh.
Talk to me about marv pls

Not much to say. He decided to hide part 1.
He then came out and voted palmar which was at that time a good vote. He forced palmar to do things and put himself open to be attacked by a town Palmar.
The reasons why marv finds Palmar mafia are his own. I can't relate as much. But like I said, Palmar very lazily piled onto you and he should have done better there.
Can't be a lurker, get called out by marv, and then be lazy in the 5 serious posts you try to make.

So he was ok because the vote he made, then became more than ok after Palmar failed to deliver.

This is a good point
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2024 17:36 GMT
#2175
@cake so if I’m understanding what you are saying, you think trefel is mafia with vivax then? Why else would he, in your perspective, not want to start a wagon on trefel
No gg, No skill.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 05 2024 17:36 GMT
#2176
Would have to PoE at this point. Probably someone in this pool:

Trfel
Jealous
MZ
JS
Hapa
TTS
VE
Slam

Would have to narrow it down somehow.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 05 2024 17:44 GMT
#2177
On March 06 2024 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
@cake so if I’m understanding what you are saying, you think trefel is mafia with vivax then? Why else would he, in your perspective, not want to start a wagon on trefel


No, I dont understand why is not voting his scum read.

He claims because he doesnt want to start a wagon of someone who wont get lynched.

But he starts one on you so I guess he thinks you are more lynchable.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 05 2024 17:44 GMT
#2178
Curious about the MZ and JS reads as the other bunch is inactive/slam. Can you tell me why they made it to the list?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 05 2024 17:46 GMT
#2179
On March 06 2024 01:40 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 01:29 CopCake wrote:
Like, I dont understand why is it so bad to question Vivax claim.

I have the right to do it if I wanted to.


Okay so outside of the claim, how is vivax mafia


The claim itself is just stupid, how he wants tfrel dead considering the last game, I dont think he is scumhunting

His reads

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 23:13 Vivax wrote:
I think rayn has a decent chance to flip mafia by the way.
Cop says he can't be because he'd be angrier but there's nothing that says he isn't simply more restrained in this game.

I'm moving cop out of the mafia pool just because of what Koshi said about her and good intentions. I still think she was struggling back then and took way too long to join the chorus calling my claim awful.

Iamperfection has dropped off a lot and looks a lot like Oats at this point. I just don't see any motivation to find the right lynch here. Erratic play. I believe Oats still didn't deliver an estimation of marv and Sandroba like I asked.

I don't want to lynch Palmar. I think marv is doing jack shit, and he didn't try to run for mayor for it. The Palmar vote was his first meaningful contribution, and everyone treated it like some high priest tossed a piece of metal from a pyramid and they went wild chasing it while screeching like a bunch of teenies at a rock concert.

I also think marv is kinda avoidant of DP and I know that marv has to fear DP if he's mafia. Him masoning Sandoba over DP is bad and might explain DPs lower effort.

MZ, Rels reasonable and pro-town all around but also a bit synthetic and lacking emotion for now. Not on the table for D1 I think and they have shown that they know what it takes to not lose to a casino.

DMB I think town. I liked most of the placements in her list and she had a golden opportunity to fall into her meta of antagonizing me just for fun and blending in with others doing so. I don't think she'd want a JK as mayor as mafia either.

That's about it for now. Otherwise:

Hapa joined discord and didn't post at all so I think it's due we make him the main secondary wagon that I can kill but I also need town's consent for it. Jealous works too, just make it visible please.


and an hour later

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On March 06 2024 00:10 Vivax wrote:
Slam, iamp, TTS, Hapa

Man this game is easy



read progressions are not ok




Like this is hist list of mafia people (second one)

Yet, he votes Oats.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2024 17:48 GMT
#2180
On March 06 2024 02:44 CopCake wrote:
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On March 06 2024 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
@cake so if I’m understanding what you are saying, you think trefel is mafia with vivax then? Why else would he, in your perspective, not want to start a wagon on trefel


No, I dont understand why is not voting his scum read.

He claims because he doesnt want to start a wagon of someone who wont get lynched.

But he starts one on you so I guess he thinks you are more lynchable.

What’s the mafia motivation? I don’t see the link
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