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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On December 14 2023 03:16 Trfel wrote: So apparently die_meatbaby's filter doesn't take very long to read.I don't have any thoughts on them yet. I kinda just ignored everything they said in preparation for reading their filter later. It's almost later. I'd be okay lynching them too, they are on Chezinu level. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On December 14 2023 03:18 Holyflare wrote: I thought raynpelikoneet was town but I honestly forget why. Now I kinda think he's mafia but I need to reread him (next on the list), it irks me since I think I had a reason to townread him and forgot it though.Gut read on me or rayn? I always think you're town. This game is no exception. Sometimes you end up being mafia. It's sad but I have no idea how to change this. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 14 2023 03:02 Holyflare wrote: I also would 0% read in to effort making me town lol Amen | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 14 2023 03:03 Trfel wrote: I mean I have other thoughts but they don't really go anywhere. I really do think that marvellosity is town, I had thought that raynpelikoneet was maybe town but I can't remember much of what he has done so I don't think he is town anymore. Palmar I think is town. Koshi and Alakaslam I think are town. Sandroba I truly think is town. I realize I have too many townreads, I have some work to do to figure it out but there are reasons for them all being town. Marvellosity: feels very present and engaging while having less drive/presence than the marvellosity of old. But I don't think the latter part of that sentence makes him mafia. I generally like the places he is choosing to engage and think it makes sense for him. I don't have a great explanation but it feels like town to me. Palmar: The involvement and directness and aggressiveness all indicate town to me. I feel like when Palmar is this heavily involved early on he is very likely to be town. I remember one game this was false, I think, but I think I'm willing to bet on it for now at least. Koshi: His reads make sense and it seems like he is critically thinking about the game, even if he is doing so in a painfully annoying way. Alakaslam: high involvement, good thoughts and presence. If he is mafia it would be an absolutely outstanding performance, I can't entirely put it past him since I know he loves playing as mafia but if he isn't town this game I don't know how I'd ever townread him again. sandroba: read him as a defensive waffle and he's town. I like his involvement as of late, even as the thread sentiment has soured against him he's stayed involved and hasn't given up. I think this is a strong town indicator. I actually like his thoughts, they're unique and show that he's thinking, even if I don't always (or even often) agree with the sentiments and conclusions. Holyflare and raynpelikoneet I don't know, I really think Chezinu is mafia and needs to go. This can be an issue, is the thing. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 14 2023 03:36 Trfel wrote: I don't think it's an issue in this case though. I don't think that those differences end up being mafia indicative at all here. That’s what smart players do, though. They make good points and look like they are thinking about the game. But somehow they don’t line up with how you’re thinking… | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
This can be easy for mafia as it’s convenient and easy for mafia to read town people town and dress it up in all the correct reasoning. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On December 14 2023 03:38 marvellosity wrote: People never think what I am thinking That’s what smart players do, though. They make good points and look like they are thinking about the game. But somehow they don’t line up with how you’re thinking…  In all seriousness though, if you guys lynch sandroba then I hope I am wrong. But I'm just not seeing it, so unless something dramatically changes then you won't have my vote. Why not Chezinu or die_meatbaby? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 14 2023 03:40 Trfel wrote: People never think what I am thinking In all seriousness though, if you guys lynch sandroba then I hope I am wrong. But I'm just not seeing it, so unless something dramatically changes then you won't have my vote. Why not Chezinu or die_meatbaby? I mean Chez can absolutely be mafia here. But it still feels like a crapshoot. I feel like if I am in the place where there are 3 mafia and my best option is to lynch Chez, I have (or town has) seriously misplayed. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
If sandro is town I can see DMB mafia coming in at d1 eod to a lynch with basically no repercussions for mafia and having some fun. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
To me it makes more sense if both Trfel and DMB are mafia due to DMB avoidance on the initial thread discussion, but I can see both being mafia apart from each other as well. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Lots of posts but minimal presence. Doesn't feel like he is pushing much here compared to how active he has been. Two exceptions: his "catch" on Holyflare not reading (more on this later) and his scumreading Palmar. Look at the way he scumreads Palmar, he isn't very committed to it or upset that no one is listening, he feels largely content to just say "Palmar could be mafia" and then move on with life. This isn't how I am used to raynpelikoneet playing as town, nor is it town motivated. His "catch" on Holyflare. He's so stubborn about this, but town!raynpelikoneet that I'm used to is more willing to try and see things from other people's perspectives, even on "logic" disagreements. Don't misunderstand, he's still super stubborn, but he won't hold onto things literally forever anymore. The fact that he hasn't let it go, but simultaneously isn't passionately driving it in everyone's face and calling for Holyflare's lynch seems very off. I don't understand how this in-between world exists for town raynpelikoneet. Then there are little things that probably don't mean much. Part of me wants to think that saying "do you have a vig" to die_meatbaby is a slip but I also don't really believe in slips. His post-d1 lynch apology to Vivax feels more told-you-so than actually apologetic, given that he was scumreading and voting for Vivax before the lynch, and the way it comes off feels wrong. But the main two points are above. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Chezinu/die_meatbaby/raynpelikoneet I think are more likely still, but yeah. Uneasy feelings. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7448 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/Hti3jOW.jpeg) Tis a sign | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On December 14 2023 04:00 sandroba wrote: Think about it the other way around though, is dmb town only because you think I'm mafia? To me it makes more sense if both Trfel and DMB are mafia due to DMB avoidance on the initial thread discussion, but I can see both being mafia apart from each other as well. In an earlier post I already told I think one of you sandro or Trfel are mafia either one not both. Still trying to figure out wich one what make more sense. Also I am still not happy about the Townreads Palmar get. Slam is the only 100% Townread I have. Marv is also in a good light. Koshi gets more Townie to me since D2 because he gets more active here and I know him as lazy Mafia As I also already said Chez is a person I can not read but I am def not sure about it and this vote chance makes me really thinking bad of him Rayn looks first time ever not as scummy as he looks usually to me. Not a safe Townread but definitely not my main mafia thought in my head Palmar/Chez/Sandro Palmar/Chez/ Trfel HF/Palmar/Trfl HF/Palmar/Sandro Not my main thought but still possible Trfl/Sandro/Chez Trfl/Sandro/Palmar | ||
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