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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 13 2023 18:18 GMT
#1661
Gut read on me or rayn?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 13 2023 18:19 GMT
#1662
On December 14 2023 03:16 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 03:13 Holyflare wrote:
On December 14 2023 03:08 Trfel wrote:
On December 14 2023 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
##vote trfel

Figure out some scum reads
I have one, take it or leave it.


I already have that read and I'd like some more. What do you think of DMB? You make no mention of them in the entirety of your list.
I don't have any thoughts on them yet. I kinda just ignored everything they said in preparation for reading their filter later. It's almost later.
So apparently die_meatbaby's filter doesn't take very long to read.

I'd be okay lynching them too, they are on Chezinu level.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 13 2023 18:21 GMT
#1663
On December 14 2023 03:18 Holyflare wrote:
Gut read on me or rayn?
I thought raynpelikoneet was town but I honestly forget why. Now I kinda think he's mafia but I need to reread him (next on the list), it irks me since I think I had a reason to townread him and forgot it though.

I always think you're town. This game is no exception. Sometimes you end up being mafia. It's sad but I have no idea how to change this.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 13 2023 18:28 GMT
#1664
pocketing attempt accepted
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2023 18:30 GMT
#1665
On December 14 2023 03:02 Holyflare wrote:
I also would 0% read in to effort making me town lol

Amen
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2023 18:34 GMT
#1666
On December 14 2023 03:03 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 02:55 Holyflare wrote:
On December 14 2023 02:48 Trfel wrote:
I'm just going to vote for Chezinu, I think he is just mafia. We had a game in the past where we were town together and talked quite a bit, and a game in the past where we were scum together, in fact I think maybe two games, and his effort and engagement with the game feel very scummy. He's capable of much more as town, we all know this. You shouldn't have to beg him to interact with the game. He's even made plenty of posts, the time is there, the desire to do anything about solving the game is not.

##vote Chezinu

The house of brown has found it time to end your mafia-ness.


Are these really your only current thoughts? Nothing about anyone that's talking?
I mean I have other thoughts but they don't really go anywhere.

I really do think that marvellosity is town, I had thought that raynpelikoneet was maybe town but I can't remember much of what he has done so I don't think he is town anymore. Palmar I think is town. Koshi and Alakaslam I think are town. Sandroba I truly think is town.

I realize I have too many townreads, I have some work to do to figure it out but there are reasons for them all being town.

Marvellosity: feels very present and engaging while having less drive/presence than the marvellosity of old. But I don't think the latter part of that sentence makes him mafia. I generally like the places he is choosing to engage and think it makes sense for him. I don't have a great explanation but it feels like town to me.
Palmar: The involvement and directness and aggressiveness all indicate town to me. I feel like when Palmar is this heavily involved early on he is very likely to be town. I remember one game this was false, I think, but I think I'm willing to bet on it for now at least.
Koshi: His reads make sense and it seems like he is critically thinking about the game, even if he is doing so in a painfully annoying way.
Alakaslam: high involvement, good thoughts and presence. If he is mafia it would be an absolutely outstanding performance, I can't entirely put it past him since I know he loves playing as mafia but if he isn't town this game I don't know how I'd ever townread him again.
sandroba: read him as a defensive waffle and he's town. I like his involvement as of late, even as the thread sentiment has soured against him he's stayed involved and hasn't given up. I think this is a strong town indicator. I actually like his thoughts, they're unique and show that he's thinking, even if I don't always (or even often) agree with the sentiments and conclusions.

Holyflare and raynpelikoneet I don't know, I really think Chezinu is mafia and needs to go.

This can be an issue, is the thing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2023 18:35 GMT
#1667
Because it can be indicative the thoughts aren’t coming from the same place as (townie) you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 13 2023 18:36 GMT
#1668
I don't think it's an issue in this case though. I don't think that those differences end up being mafia indicative at all here.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2023 18:38 GMT
#1669
On December 14 2023 03:36 Trfel wrote:
I don't think it's an issue in this case though. I don't think that those differences end up being mafia indicative at all here.

That’s what smart players do, though. They make good points and look like they are thinking about the game.

But somehow they don’t line up with how you’re thinking…
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2023 18:40 GMT
#1670
Im a bit concerned that your town reads are amazingly accurate - at least in terms of how they sound - but your scumreads don’t have the same depth.

This can be easy for mafia as it’s convenient and easy for mafia to read town people town and dress it up in all the correct reasoning.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 13 2023 18:40 GMT
#1671
On December 14 2023 03:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 03:36 Trfel wrote:
I don't think it's an issue in this case though. I don't think that those differences end up being mafia indicative at all here.

That’s what smart players do, though. They make good points and look like they are thinking about the game.

But somehow they don’t line up with how you’re thinking…
People never think what I am thinking

In all seriousness though, if you guys lynch sandroba then I hope I am wrong. But I'm just not seeing it, so unless something dramatically changes then you won't have my vote.

Why not Chezinu or die_meatbaby?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2023 18:41 GMT
#1672
Less easy to fabricate reasons for people to be mafia, was the follow up implication I missed off there.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2023 18:42 GMT
#1673
On December 14 2023 03:40 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 03:38 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2023 03:36 Trfel wrote:
I don't think it's an issue in this case though. I don't think that those differences end up being mafia indicative at all here.

That’s what smart players do, though. They make good points and look like they are thinking about the game.

But somehow they don’t line up with how you’re thinking…
People never think what I am thinking

In all seriousness though, if you guys lynch sandroba then I hope I am wrong. But I'm just not seeing it, so unless something dramatically changes then you won't have my vote.

Why not Chezinu or die_meatbaby?

I mean Chez can absolutely be mafia here.

But it still feels like a crapshoot.

I feel like if I am in the place where there are 3 mafia and my best option is to lynch Chez, I have (or town has) seriously misplayed.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2023 18:43 GMT
#1674
For me sandro has to be town for DMB to be mafia. Which is of course possible, but meeeeeehhh.

If sandro is town I can see DMB mafia coming in at d1 eod to a lynch with basically no repercussions for mafia and having some fun.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 13 2023 19:00 GMT
#1675
Think about it the other way around though, is dmb town only because you think I'm mafia?
To me it makes more sense if both Trfel and DMB are mafia due to DMB avoidance on the initial thread discussion, but I can see both being mafia apart from each other as well.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 13 2023 19:06 GMT
#1676
After reading raynpelikoneet's filter, I actually think he could be mafia.

Lots of posts but minimal presence. Doesn't feel like he is pushing much here compared to how active he has been. Two exceptions: his "catch" on Holyflare not reading (more on this later) and his scumreading Palmar. Look at the way he scumreads Palmar, he isn't very committed to it or upset that no one is listening, he feels largely content to just say "Palmar could be mafia" and then move on with life. This isn't how I am used to raynpelikoneet playing as town, nor is it town motivated.

His "catch" on Holyflare. He's so stubborn about this, but town!raynpelikoneet that I'm used to is more willing to try and see things from other people's perspectives, even on "logic" disagreements. Don't misunderstand, he's still super stubborn, but he won't hold onto things literally forever anymore. The fact that he hasn't let it go, but simultaneously isn't passionately driving it in everyone's face and calling for Holyflare's lynch seems very off. I don't understand how this in-between world exists for town raynpelikoneet.

Then there are little things that probably don't mean much. Part of me wants to think that saying "do you have a vig" to die_meatbaby is a slip but I also don't really believe in slips. His post-d1 lynch apology to Vivax feels more told-you-so than actually apologetic, given that he was scumreading and voting for Vivax before the lynch, and the way it comes off feels wrong. But the main two points are above.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 13 2023 19:12 GMT
#1677
I'm also starting to wonder about Koshi's alignment since he is just playing so anti-town. What if he rolls mafia, is he going to do all this I-should-be-lynched stuff still? That would really detract from his ability to play the game and improve as mafia, but he'd have to, or it would be really obvious he is mafia? What would it look like if he were mafia and trying to play this way? It just feels really scary to have him as town though.

Chezinu/die_meatbaby/raynpelikoneet I think are more likely still, but yeah. Uneasy feelings.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
December 13 2023 19:15 GMT
#1678
[image loading]


Tis a sign
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 13 2023 19:20 GMT
#1679
But what does purple mean?
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 13 2023 19:27 GMT
#1680
On December 14 2023 04:00 sandroba wrote:
Think about it the other way around though, is dmb town only because you think I'm mafia?
To me it makes more sense if both Trfel and DMB are mafia due to DMB avoidance on the initial thread discussion, but I can see both being mafia apart from each other as well.


In an earlier post I already told I think one of you sandro or Trfel are mafia either one not both. Still trying to figure out wich one what make more sense. Also I am still not happy about the Townreads Palmar get. Slam is the only 100% Townread I have. Marv is also in a good light.
Koshi gets more Townie to me since D2 because he gets more active here and I know him as lazy Mafia
As I also already said Chez is a person I can not read but I am def not sure about it and this vote chance makes me really thinking bad of him
Rayn looks first time ever not as scummy as he looks usually to me. Not a safe Townread but definitely not my main mafia thought in my head

Palmar/Chez/Sandro
Palmar/Chez/ Trfel
HF/Palmar/Trfl
HF/Palmar/Sandro

Not my main thought but still possible
Trfl/Sandro/Chez
Trfl/Sandro/Palmar
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
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