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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 22:28 GMT
#461
pfff.. so where does he talk to you like you're town?
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
December 10 2023 22:29 GMT
#462
Day One Vote Count

marvellosity (1): Koshi
Sandroba (1): Vivax
Koshi (1): Holyflare
Trfel (1): DarthPunk, DarthPunk
Holyflare (1): raynpelikoneet
raynpelikoneet (0): Holyflare, Vivax

Not Voting (7): marvellosity, die_meatbaby, Palmar, Chezinu, Alakaslam, Sandroba, Trfel

With 1 vote, marvellosity is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Tuesday, Dec 12 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 10 2023 22:29 GMT
#463
On December 11 2023 07:07 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 07:01 Trfel wrote:
On December 11 2023 06:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 11 2023 06:53 Trfel wrote:
On December 11 2023 06:36 Trfel wrote:
On December 11 2023 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:
I also tend to think that with the pressure that Sandro has been under picking a fight with marv seems like a terrible play as mafia, so it feels genuine to me.
Here @DarthPunk
Here, I'll quote it again.


Quoting it again doesn't magically make it worthwhile.

1.)I didn't call sandro town. If I think someone is town I will say they are town.

2.) You said basically the same thing about sandro as me regarding his posting revealing his mindset.

3.) I left the thread in the middle of the night.

Therefore I am mafia.

1 - Okay, I'll leave this post:
On December 11 2023 06:49 Trfel wrote:
On December 11 2023 05:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Sandroba also looks good to me when he posts, so again, don't understand the scum reads on him.
On December 11 2023 06:03 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 11 2023 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 11 2023 05:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Sandroba also looks good to me when he posts, so again, don't understand the scum reads on him.

Why, please?


Basically because in isolation his posts resonate with my own thinking in some way.

I do think you had one of the best reasons to call him mafia though, which I hadn't read when I made that post.

But I still don't think I would lynch him at this point.
On December 11 2023 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 11 2023 05:58 sandroba wrote:
On December 11 2023 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 11 2023 05:42 sandroba wrote:
On December 11 2023 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sandroba are you gonna be here in like 30mins?
i WILL have another round of sauna, but after that i would very much like to interact with you head-to-head if you are here.

I'm not going to stick around much longer, my youngest just woke up. I'll be back around 10pm ET. Tomorrow I'll be available throughout the day

why is marv mafia?

Something is off about the way he says "his first terrible post", seems needlessly antagonistic, a bit too assertive about maybe the contents of the post being terrible? Doesn't explain much about why such post was "terrible" or even if terrible means suspicious. The rest of his content just seems a bit of stirring the pot, but not in a way to actually talk about something suspicious, but instead to keep people nit-picking on each other in circles.


Like I agree with the observations in this post, while I disagree with the conclusion. It makes me feel like he is reading the thread closely and thinking about what things mean, I think that is hard to fake as mafia.

I also tend to think that with the pressure that Sandro has been under picking a fight with marv seems like a terrible play as mafia, so it feels genuine to me.
On December 11 2023 06:21 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 11 2023 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
it's not even like CAN marv be mafia, but like... marv is mafia here now in this game, one of the most mafia reads.. rly?


I mean I understand that, but I also think I could see it from Sandro's perspective, I don't see how making this accusation actually does anything positive for Sandro's agenda if he is mafia.

I also tend to think that townies will make really dumb reads a lot, but as long as I feel like I can understand the reasons for the read in some way, it's fine.

With his marv read the observations are correct to me, I just think the conclusion is wrong because marv tends to be more of a jerk (in the nicest possible way) as town and more conciliatory as mafia.

But I don't expect Sandro to have that information or arrive at that conclusion based on how long he has been away.
To me, these posts say that you think sandroba is town. Not like 100% bet your life on it certainty or anything, but if you had to guess you'd say he's town. So, townread. You're defending him, bringing up reasons why he is town, saying his play doesn't make sense as mafia. What else am I supposed to think? If this isn't a townread then what is?
to stand for itself. If people choose to believe that you don't think sandroba is town and yet you made these posts, then whatever.

2 - So? I don't care. That's not why you are mafia. You can agree with me on something and still be mafia.

3 - We discussed this. Please stop being intentionally obtuse. I don't care if you think I am mafia, but the constant badgering with questions, ignoring the answers, and then misrepresenting me is getting really annoying really quick.
Gotta head out for a bit, going to clear my head. Yeesh.


Why are you talking to me like I am town?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 22:30 GMT
#464
Am i mafia with sandroba because i scumread him and i talked to him like he is town, just because i dont have encounters with him, and i also wanted to be nice because of it?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 10 2023 22:31 GMT
#465
God damn.
I told Tfrel and DP to start a town circle and instead they are going to waste all their carrying power to argue between each other. What a waste.
I had a good night of sleep.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 10 2023 22:31 GMT
#466
On December 11 2023 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Am i mafia with sandroba because i scumread him and i talked to him like he is town, just because i dont have encounters with him, and i also wanted to be nice because of it?


No, but that’s not the only reason I think Trfel is mafia.

But let’s do this another way. Why is trfel 90% town?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2023 22:31 GMT
#467
On December 11 2023 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
koshi, hf, dmb best lynch

Wasn’t DMB super excited to play as maf though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 22:32 GMT
#468
Is there something specific like "he said this XYZ and it would be ABC if mafia/town, so YES, I FIGURED YOU OUT!!!!" or?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 22:32 GMT
#469
On December 11 2023 07:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
koshi, hf, dmb best lynch

Wasn’t DMB super excited to play as maf though

sure.
i dont like "i will be here" then i am not sayings.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 10 2023 22:33 GMT
#470
Page 22 is wasted. Congratz Tfrel and DP.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 22:34 GMT
#471
I might stay up to 1am just to see if Koshi is mafia or not.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 10 2023 22:34 GMT
#472
On December 11 2023 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a bit drunk maybe, i dont think trfel is mafia, DP might be but maybe not because he is all fucking in on this, and i dont understand any of this shit...

I only know for like 90% that he is wrong because Trfel is not mafia. Maybe 10% but no.

DP is also not mafia. Just let them work together and the game is solved before you know it.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2023 22:34 GMT
#473
On December 11 2023 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 06:35 Trfel wrote:
I think at this point I'd be okay with lynching Koshi (if he is going to play like this), and potentially okay with lynching DarthPunk. Sandroba's recent set of posts were more interesting to me, I didn't necessarily agree with everything he was saying but it helps me to put together his mindset/approach. Holyflare's point that he's focusing on defending himself from presumed incorrect accusations instead of actually finding mafia or being productive is strong, now that he's actually shared suspicions I look forward to him coming back tomorrow. Vivax I could definitely see being mafia but I don't think I want to lynch him as much as Koshi or DarthPunk at this point.

Holyflare is not townie in any way, in any point of his game. He might be misguided as fuck but never ever has he done anything townie.

Not sure I agree, I can follow his thoughts
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2023 22:36 GMT
#474
On December 11 2023 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you're calling Trfel mafia, not the other way around here?
It's not like you're being tunneled by Trfel DP, is it?

Now i don't know why you think Trfel is mafia, where did he lie, or did any of those dubious things that might make them mafia? Bullet points please.

Also look at what HF did:
- rayn is scum because palmar - rayn posts
- palmar didnt post when hf voted


This isn't even correct lol.


DP/trfel plz just sum up your points on each other into a couple of bullet points and then move on to anyone else please. Just arguing amongst yourselves at this point and I can't piece together any of it.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 22:36 GMT
#475
On December 11 2023 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 11 2023 06:35 Trfel wrote:
I think at this point I'd be okay with lynching Koshi (if he is going to play like this), and potentially okay with lynching DarthPunk. Sandroba's recent set of posts were more interesting to me, I didn't necessarily agree with everything he was saying but it helps me to put together his mindset/approach. Holyflare's point that he's focusing on defending himself from presumed incorrect accusations instead of actually finding mafia or being productive is strong, now that he's actually shared suspicions I look forward to him coming back tomorrow. Vivax I could definitely see being mafia but I don't think I want to lynch him as much as Koshi or DarthPunk at this point.

Holyflare is not townie in any way, in any point of his game. He might be misguided as fuck but never ever has he done anything townie.

Not sure I agree, I can follow his thoughts

really? then we have a problem as well. i dont think it's a good problem for either of us, but we will have a problem...
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 10 2023 22:36 GMT
#476
On December 11 2023 07:36 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you're calling Trfel mafia, not the other way around here?
It's not like you're being tunneled by Trfel DP, is it?

Now i don't know why you think Trfel is mafia, where did he lie, or did any of those dubious things that might make them mafia? Bullet points please.

Also look at what HF did:
- rayn is scum because palmar - rayn posts
- palmar didnt post when hf voted


This isn't even correct lol.


DP/trfel plz just sum up your points on each other into a couple of bullet points and then move on to anyone else please. Just arguing amongst yourselves at this point and I can't piece together any of it.

I already did this multiple times
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 22:36 GMT
#477
are you both mafia?
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2023 22:37 GMT
#478
Ok maybe I should have read past this post
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 10 2023 22:37 GMT
#479
On December 11 2023 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
are you both mafia?

I love you rayn
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 22:37 GMT
#480
fuck, why cant they get it?
someone help?
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