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On December 11 2023 06:58 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 06:53 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 06:36 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:
I also tend to think that with the pressure that Sandro has been under picking a fight with marv seems like a terrible play as mafia, so it feels genuine to me. Here @DarthPunk Here, I'll quote it again. Quoting it again doesn't magically make it worthwhile. 1.)I didn't call sandro town. If I think someone is town I will say they are town. 2.) You said basically the same thing about sandro as me regarding his posting revealing his mindset. 3.) I left the thread in the middle of the night. Therefore I am mafia. 1 - Okay, I'll leave this post:On December 11 2023 06:49 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 05:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Sandroba also looks good to me when he posts, so again, don't understand the scum reads on him. Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 06:03 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2023 05:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Sandroba also looks good to me when he posts, so again, don't understand the scum reads on him.
Why, please? Basically because in isolation his posts resonate with my own thinking in some way. I do think you had one of the best reasons to call him mafia though, which I hadn't read when I made that post. But I still don't think I would lynch him at this point. Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 05:58 sandroba wrote:On December 11 2023 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2023 05:42 sandroba wrote:On December 11 2023 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sandroba are you gonna be here in like 30mins?
i WILL have another round of sauna, but after that i would very much like to interact with you head-to-head if you are here. I'm not going to stick around much longer, my youngest just woke up. I'll be back around 10pm ET. Tomorrow I'll be available throughout the day why is marv mafia? Something is off about the way he says "his first terrible post", seems needlessly antagonistic, a bit too assertive about maybe the contents of the post being terrible? Doesn't explain much about why such post was "terrible" or even if terrible means suspicious. The rest of his content just seems a bit of stirring the pot, but not in a way to actually talk about something suspicious, but instead to keep people nit-picking on each other in circles. Like I agree with the observations in this post, while I disagree with the conclusion. It makes me feel like he is reading the thread closely and thinking about what things mean, I think that is hard to fake as mafia. I also tend to think that with the pressure that Sandro has been under picking a fight with marv seems like a terrible play as mafia, so it feels genuine to me. Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 06:21 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
it's not even like CAN marv be mafia, but like... marv is mafia here now in this game, one of the most mafia reads.. rly? I mean I understand that, but I also think I could see it from Sandro's perspective, I don't see how making this accusation actually does anything positive for Sandro's agenda if he is mafia. I also tend to think that townies will make really dumb reads a lot, but as long as I feel like I can understand the reasons for the read in some way, it's fine. With his marv read the observations are correct to me, I just think the conclusion is wrong because marv tends to be more of a jerk (in the nicest possible way) as town and more conciliatory as mafia. But I don't expect Sandro to have that information or arrive at that conclusion based on how long he has been away. To me, these posts say that you think sandroba is town. Not like 100% bet your life on it certainty or anything, but if you had to guess you'd say he's town. So, townread. You're defending him, bringing up reasons why he is town, saying his play doesn't make sense as mafia. What else am I supposed to think? If this isn't a townread then what is? to stand for itself. If people choose to believe that you don't think sandroba is town and yet you made these posts, then whatever.
2 - So? I don't care. That's not why you are mafia. You can agree with me on something and still be mafia.
3 - We discussed this. Please stop being intentionally obtuse. I don't care if you think I am mafia, but the constant badgering with questions, ignoring the answers, and then misrepresenting me is getting really annoying really quick.
Gotta head out for a bit, going to clear my head. Yeesh.
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On December 11 2023 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP did you ever look into what i saidon HF?
Is it the stuff about not reading the post?
If that is what you mean, then I can't really state with confidence that it makes him mafia, because It was pretty obvious to me that he was skimming the thread.
I need to read his filter to really get a grasp on him, the last time I played with him he death tunneled me every game regardless of alignment so this is new.
I will take a look though.
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On December 11 2023 07:01 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 06:58 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 06:53 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 06:36 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:
I also tend to think that with the pressure that Sandro has been under picking a fight with marv seems like a terrible play as mafia, so it feels genuine to me. Here @DarthPunk Here, I'll quote it again. Quoting it again doesn't magically make it worthwhile. 1.)I didn't call sandro town. If I think someone is town I will say they are town. 2.) You said basically the same thing about sandro as me regarding his posting revealing his mindset. 3.) I left the thread in the middle of the night. Therefore I am mafia. 1 - Okay, I'll leave this post: Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 06:49 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 05:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Sandroba also looks good to me when he posts, so again, don't understand the scum reads on him. On December 11 2023 06:03 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2023 05:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Sandroba also looks good to me when he posts, so again, don't understand the scum reads on him.
Why, please? Basically because in isolation his posts resonate with my own thinking in some way. I do think you had one of the best reasons to call him mafia though, which I hadn't read when I made that post. But I still don't think I would lynch him at this point. On December 11 2023 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 05:58 sandroba wrote:On December 11 2023 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2023 05:42 sandroba wrote:On December 11 2023 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sandroba are you gonna be here in like 30mins?
i WILL have another round of sauna, but after that i would very much like to interact with you head-to-head if you are here. I'm not going to stick around much longer, my youngest just woke up. I'll be back around 10pm ET. Tomorrow I'll be available throughout the day why is marv mafia? Something is off about the way he says "his first terrible post", seems needlessly antagonistic, a bit too assertive about maybe the contents of the post being terrible? Doesn't explain much about why such post was "terrible" or even if terrible means suspicious. The rest of his content just seems a bit of stirring the pot, but not in a way to actually talk about something suspicious, but instead to keep people nit-picking on each other in circles. Like I agree with the observations in this post, while I disagree with the conclusion. It makes me feel like he is reading the thread closely and thinking about what things mean, I think that is hard to fake as mafia. I also tend to think that with the pressure that Sandro has been under picking a fight with marv seems like a terrible play as mafia, so it feels genuine to me. On December 11 2023 06:21 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
it's not even like CAN marv be mafia, but like... marv is mafia here now in this game, one of the most mafia reads.. rly? I mean I understand that, but I also think I could see it from Sandro's perspective, I don't see how making this accusation actually does anything positive for Sandro's agenda if he is mafia. I also tend to think that townies will make really dumb reads a lot, but as long as I feel like I can understand the reasons for the read in some way, it's fine. With his marv read the observations are correct to me, I just think the conclusion is wrong because marv tends to be more of a jerk (in the nicest possible way) as town and more conciliatory as mafia. But I don't expect Sandro to have that information or arrive at that conclusion based on how long he has been away. To me, these posts say that you think sandroba is town. Not like 100% bet your life on it certainty or anything, but if you had to guess you'd say he's town. So, townread. You're defending him, bringing up reasons why he is town, saying his play doesn't make sense as mafia. What else am I supposed to think? If this isn't a townread then what is? to stand for itself. If people choose to believe that you don't think sandroba is town and yet you made these posts, then whatever. 2 - So? I don't care. That's not why you are mafia. You can agree with me on something and still be mafia.3 - We discussed this. Please stop being intentionally obtuse. I don't care if you think I am mafia, but the constant badgering with questions, ignoring the answers, and then misrepresenting me is getting really annoying really quick.
Gotta head out for a bit, going to clear my head. Yeesh.
Why does me making those posts about Sandro make me mafia when you also feel better about Sandro based on ostensibly the same posts?
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On December 11 2023 06:16 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 05:49 Chezinu wrote:On December 11 2023 05:35 Alakaslam wrote:On December 11 2023 05:25 Chezinu wrote:
Dear Mafias,
You do not have to follow the path of redness though your name is stained with red. You can live without eliminating the green and blue. You can resist the urge to kill!! It is not too late for a blue priest to make you green!! Just repent openly and confess to the priest and He will remove your redness. You could be green or even perhaps blue!! Wait wait He also calls us to submit to Government (1 Peter I have people read the whole book, get that delicious context yo) So then, good rules have their origin in God so obedience to good rules is obedience to God. We cannot ask people to play against their win condition... Breaks the game... Why Slam!! Why?!?!?!? I wrote the letter to the Mafia and Ye responded!! My brother!! If you do kill, please spare me my brother!! You forget that I am one of those foul orcs that reads other people's mail
Phew... and orcs are green!
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On December 11 2023 07:01 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 06:58 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 06:53 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 06:36 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:
I also tend to think that with the pressure that Sandro has been under picking a fight with marv seems like a terrible play as mafia, so it feels genuine to me. Here @DarthPunk Here, I'll quote it again. Quoting it again doesn't magically make it worthwhile. 1.)I didn't call sandro town. If I think someone is town I will say they are town. 2.) You said basically the same thing about sandro as me regarding his posting revealing his mindset. 3.) I left the thread in the middle of the night. Therefore I am mafia. 1 - Okay, I'll leave this post: Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 06:49 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 05:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Sandroba also looks good to me when he posts, so again, don't understand the scum reads on him. On December 11 2023 06:03 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2023 05:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Sandroba also looks good to me when he posts, so again, don't understand the scum reads on him.
Why, please? Basically because in isolation his posts resonate with my own thinking in some way. I do think you had one of the best reasons to call him mafia though, which I hadn't read when I made that post. But I still don't think I would lynch him at this point. On December 11 2023 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 05:58 sandroba wrote:On December 11 2023 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2023 05:42 sandroba wrote:On December 11 2023 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sandroba are you gonna be here in like 30mins?
i WILL have another round of sauna, but after that i would very much like to interact with you head-to-head if you are here. I'm not going to stick around much longer, my youngest just woke up. I'll be back around 10pm ET. Tomorrow I'll be available throughout the day why is marv mafia? Something is off about the way he says "his first terrible post", seems needlessly antagonistic, a bit too assertive about maybe the contents of the post being terrible? Doesn't explain much about why such post was "terrible" or even if terrible means suspicious. The rest of his content just seems a bit of stirring the pot, but not in a way to actually talk about something suspicious, but instead to keep people nit-picking on each other in circles. Like I agree with the observations in this post, while I disagree with the conclusion. It makes me feel like he is reading the thread closely and thinking about what things mean, I think that is hard to fake as mafia. I also tend to think that with the pressure that Sandro has been under picking a fight with marv seems like a terrible play as mafia, so it feels genuine to me. On December 11 2023 06:21 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
it's not even like CAN marv be mafia, but like... marv is mafia here now in this game, one of the most mafia reads.. rly? I mean I understand that, but I also think I could see it from Sandro's perspective, I don't see how making this accusation actually does anything positive for Sandro's agenda if he is mafia. I also tend to think that townies will make really dumb reads a lot, but as long as I feel like I can understand the reasons for the read in some way, it's fine. With his marv read the observations are correct to me, I just think the conclusion is wrong because marv tends to be more of a jerk (in the nicest possible way) as town and more conciliatory as mafia. But I don't expect Sandro to have that information or arrive at that conclusion based on how long he has been away. To me, these posts say that you think sandroba is town. Not like 100% bet your life on it certainty or anything, but if you had to guess you'd say he's town. So, townread. You're defending him, bringing up reasons why he is town, saying his play doesn't make sense as mafia. What else am I supposed to think? If this isn't a townread then what is? to stand for itself. If people choose to believe that you don't think sandroba is town and yet you made these posts, then whatever. 2 - So? I don't care. That's not why you are mafia. You can agree with me on something and still be mafia. 3 - We discussed this. Please stop being intentionally obtuse. I don't care if you think I am mafia, but the constant badgering with questions, ignoring the answers, and then misrepresenting me is getting really annoying really quick.
Gotta head out for a bit, going to clear my head. Yeesh.
Why are you talking to me like I am town?
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I think you're calling Trfel mafia, not the other way around here?
It's not like you're being tunneled by Trfel DP, is it?
Now i don't know why you think Trfel is mafia, where did he lie, or did any of those dubious things that might make them mafia? Bullet points please.
Also look at what HF did:
- rayn is scum because palmar - rayn posts
- palmar didnt post when hf voted
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I am a bit drunk maybe, i dont think trfel is mafia, DP might be but maybe not because he is all fucking in on this, and i dont understand any of this shit...
I only know for like 90% that he is wrong because Trfel is not mafia. Maybe 10% but no.
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On December 11 2023 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you're calling Trfel mafia, not the other way around here?
It's not like you're being tunneled by Trfel DP, is it?
Now i don't know why you think Trfel is mafia, where did he lie, or did any of those dubious things that might make them mafia? Bullet points please.
Also look at what HF did:
- rayn is scum because palmar - rayn posts
- palmar didnt post when hf voted
Mr. truffles responded when I wrote a letter to the Mafias and then said what is wrong with being brown, meaning he doesn't want to go full green. So either blue or red, but I R red/blue blind.
Mr. Truffle, will you play the brown?
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On December 11 2023 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you're calling Trfel mafia, not the other way around here?
It's not like you're being tunneled by Trfel DP, is it?
Now i don't know why you think Trfel is mafia, where did he lie, or did any of those dubious things that might make them mafia? Bullet points please.
Also look at what HF did:
- rayn is scum because palmar - rayn posts
- palmar didnt post when hf voted
Trefel has me in his top two lynch candidates, why would he do that and then talk to me like I'm town.
- Trefel formed a "scum" (without actually calling me scum) read on me based on 'lack of thread presence'
- Trefel then acknowledged that it was the middle of the night and that may explain the lack of thread presence
-Trefel then proceeds to try and get several others to post their thoughts on me
-Trefel then says I am suspicious based on lack of thread presence (which should be discounted based on timezones) and the fact I called sandroba town.
-Trefel then says Sandroba looks better based on exactly the reasoning I gave for not finding Sandroba suspicious.
Basically his justifications for his top 2 lynch candidate read on me is farcical.
Regarding Holyflare:
Did he actually try and justify that vote on you from the start of the game? Cause that does look bad.
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we will find out sandroda tomorrow, it is weird though that noone wanted to commit on voting on sandroba (if town). why not, easiest thing to come to say "he is scum" if he is town.
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On December 11 2023 07:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Did he actually try and justify that vote on you from the start of the game? Cause that does look bad.
Read his filter.
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On December 11 2023 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a bit drunk maybe, i dont think trfel is mafia, DP might be but maybe not because he is all fucking in on this, and i dont understand any of this shit...
I only know for like 90% that he is wrong because Trfel is not mafia. Maybe 10% but no.
It would be really funny if Trfel is mafia though, cause that would be twice in a row :D
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On December 11 2023 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Did he actually try and justify that vote on you from the start of the game? Cause that does look bad.
Read his filter.
Yeah I am about to.
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Rayn before you go. Is koshi mafia or town if you had to choose.
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On December 11 2023 07:13 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you're calling Trfel mafia, not the other way around here?
It's not like you're being tunneled by Trfel DP, is it?
Now i don't know why you think Trfel is mafia, where did he lie, or did any of those dubious things that might make them mafia? Bullet points please.
Also look at what HF did:
- rayn is scum because palmar - rayn posts
- palmar didnt post when hf voted Mr. truffles responded when I wrote a letter to the Mafias and then said what is wrong with being brown, meaning he doesn't want to go full green. So either blue or red, but I R red/blue blind. Mr. Truffle, will you play the brown?
Eres rojo o azul?
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On December 11 2023 07:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn before you go. Is koshi mafia or town if you had to choose.
mafia
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On December 11 2023 07:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Trefel has me in his top two lynch candidates, why would he do that and then talk to me like I'm town.
Is this true Trfel?
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On December 11 2023 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:13 Chezinu wrote:On December 11 2023 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you're calling Trfel mafia, not the other way around here?
It's not like you're being tunneled by Trfel DP, is it?
Now i don't know why you think Trfel is mafia, where did he lie, or did any of those dubious things that might make them mafia? Bullet points please.
Also look at what HF did:
- rayn is scum because palmar - rayn posts
- palmar didnt post when hf voted Mr. truffles responded when I wrote a letter to the Mafias and then said what is wrong with being brown, meaning he doesn't want to go full green. So either blue or red, but I R red/blue blind. Mr. Truffle, will you play the brown? Eres rojo o azul?
½!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On December 11 2023 06:35 Trfel wrote:
I think at this point I'd be okay with lynching Koshi (if he is going to play like this), and potentially okay with lynching DarthPunk. Sandroba's recent set of posts were more interesting to me, I didn't necessarily agree with everything he was saying but it helps me to put together his mindset/approach. Holyflare's point that he's focusing on defending himself from presumed incorrect accusations instead of actually finding mafia or being productive is strong, now that he's actually shared suspicions I look forward to him coming back tomorrow. Vivax I could definitely see being mafia but I don't think I want to lynch him as much as Koshi or DarthPunk at this point.
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