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palmar is simply trying to convince everyone here that they should vote for Vivax. But he is doeing it just in a strange way
On December 12 2023 00:45 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 00:44 sandroba wrote:On December 12 2023 00:32 Palmar wrote:On December 11 2023 23:52 sandroba wrote:On December 11 2023 22:47 Vivax wrote:
There's nothing exonerating Sandro in his filter.
It's mostly just generic reasons to call me mafia and he can't even find the text pieces to prove what he's saying. I've been far from a blend-in playstyle. This post here also shows a mafia mindset, not arguing against the substance of what I'm saying, which is that his first post he did not read the thread and tried to reach a conclusion about my alignment, but instead he followed thread sentiment and quoted I few things from my post to appear to be contributing. In the post above he dismisses it as generic and quibbles about me not finding text pieces, which is classic mafia sentiment for "you are accusing me for the wrong reasons" This btw is a genuinely very scummy post. Not because of it's context but because of the thought process behind it. Sandroba can easily just say "well Palmar looks town so I go murder train on Vivax", but instead he does "independent research" and comes to the same conclusion to justify his vote. It's forced "case". This is a scummy post if Vivax flips mafia and it's also scummy if Vivax flips town. But the good thing is that it locks in Sandroba's vote on Vivax so I don't care for now. Can only lynch one dude today. The main reason I though you looked town is that you were trying to get traction on vivax, who I thought was likely mafia - not that you were super town and because of that vivax should be mafia - that doesn't make any sense, and I wouldn't trust you without being convinced myself even if I though you were town. Sharing my reasoning there helps me clarify and reassess my thoughts, get feedback from the thread which helps my read and getting reads off others and also helps to convice other players of my desired lynch, all pro town things. The way you are trying to set this up and your reasoning is not making any sense, it feels either like pushing mafia agenda or if you had a pre conceived notion that I must be mafia, which I'm trying to get to the bottom of shush the town people are talking. Be a good boy and keep your vote on Vivax.
I mean for sure right know it´s the best option to vote on him because his start in the game was so scumy, but when he rolled mafia in older games he just posts random stuff like memes, strange one liners for a laugh and didn´t really try to make wagon like he did here. Like this last posts he made, feeling like me at my second game where I got lynched as a Doctor on D1 and tried just to convince them so strong that I am town and blue.
On the other side i really don´t know who else should get voted here, because nobody looks so scum as he do atm.
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On December 12 2023 10:42 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 10:08 die_meatbaby wrote:
Tbh this last 3-4 posts from Vivax looks like a Townie who trys to stay alive, but just the rest from his Filter looks still worse then anyone else here.
Also We are 9 vs 3 One miss lynch+ the night kill will leave us 6 vs 3. I really hope we don't fuck up with the lynch. D1 it happens a lot. If Vivax is town I say we lynch Palmar then me then lose
not helpfull.
You think Palmar is Town?
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On December 12 2023 10:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Chez tell me why I should not try and lynch you right now.
okey i love a chez lynch before he starts to meme up the thread and confuse me or creep me out with his strange post, but why is he scumy for you he was not posting much here. How can we read him? I can not soul read him as i do often in here espescially with players I already played. Feeling like gambling to vote on him and even if he flips red I can not see who would be with him. I am still sure he is not human. He is AI player which Grack is puting in the game for his on satisfaction to see us or def. me struggling to not. But I am open for an Chez lynch just not looking so scumy as V
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Fuck i don´t have a good feeling on lynch V right now. This looks so Townie just trying to not get killed. Fells like impulsive posts from emotions to keep playing.
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On December 12 2023 11:38 Vivax wrote:
I think my plausible iterations right now without the heated reads from before would be (excluding Chezinu)
Sandro/DMB/rayn
Sandro/DP/rayn
Trfel/DP/rayn
Trfel/DMB/rayn
The 'let's go!' vote on Trfel from DP also felt off.
If I exclude DMB which is a messy read I'd be somewhere at this I think
DP/rayn/sandro
DP/rayn/Trfel
DP/marv/Rayn
In case you were wondering, using past games to fluff up your posts like DP and rayn did lands you in here.
The Trfel/Sandro dichotomy is hard and I won't exclude that they could be paired.
In some earlier post I already said that rayn looks always like scum for me. Also i would go on a vote for Sandro or Trfel but I don´t think both of them would be scum
Rayn was not very activ here so i have no reason to vote on him right know this ealier posts seems normal (for Rayn)
DP looks fucking Townisch to me and I don´t see a single reason to see him as scum. Also Slam has a good Townread from me atm. I still unsure about Palmar but i have to read some old games from him
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On December 12 2023 11:45 DarthPunk wrote:DMB SLAM CHEZ???/ Sandro lynch?? 
Why me?
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I don´t care that he calling me mafia right now but we have to change his lynch
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You can not fake that as mafia. I was reading all mafia games from him. Never ever what he risk to call the people scum who could save his lnych
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Fuck we know and we missed just one vote
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On December 12 2023 12:20 DarthPunk wrote:
I think this makes chez look bad BTW, ninja vote on vivax, not around at deadline, etc.
It really looks bad, I need to sleep now
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Actually much activity here for night. I try to catch up now. Sorry I was busy
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On December 13 2023 17:30 Koshi wrote:DMB is mafia. 1) She is flying under the radar. 2) I think she voted Vivax because he is a threat to her. And because Vivax posted a good list. Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 11:16 die_meatbaby wrote:On December 11 2023 11:07 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 10:56 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 10:54 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 10:44 Vivax wrote:
I'm not sure that Palmar's is a genuine effort to read me over some egotistical push. I think you are failing your own town litmus test. Where you are usually more engaged as town. Should have done enough to display my current thoughts. I'm hoping for wagons and vote accordingly. You haven't though. I can tell you who isn't in the clear for me: And that's a majority but I can't do much about it with my current degree of certainty. You, marv, dmb, Chez, Palmar, HF. Sandro, Trfel. I'm wondering if I should bury my sandro + Trfel approach and just assume it's two townies starting the game off like that. ##Unvote Okey what kind of wagon are you trying to build here. Like i really really try to see it but now you making my opinion on you even worse #vote vivax 3) Last one to move from Vivax to Sandroba. Even though she was moving with thread sentiment to a more Vivax is not mafia 30 mins prior. 4) Dont think she made 1 good post so far. Very bad of Palmar to make her so townie after that 1 "independent research" Vivax vote. Because really... That isn't that good at all. Anyway. Start putting her in your PoE people. ##Vote Sandroba(Last game I was mafai and I made a case on somebody and voted somebody else)
Vivax was excited to play again and special because of Palmar. I will not try to lynch my happy amore when Sandro and Palmar lookd suspicious as well in my eyes.
Before the game started V said to me when Palmar is Mafia, Town is fucked. Why should I be suspicious about Palmar when I already know he is one of the strongest player here. Newbie Mafia vs Palmar would be the stupiest thing what a mafia me could do.
Also as I never played as mafia a game am already bored as Town and because of work and this why I may was not around or activ as you used to see me in a game here.
I voted on Vivax because I felt that this was scum. He is most likly a troll poster when he is red. I thought he makes here troll wagons and just look on his filter page 1-5 this looks all just scummy. I think I don´t have to quote any post from him because, if you see this as Town you are scum. But at the point the lnych comes near and he was working, I could see the stress full posts not trying to get lynched at work, but in a Townie way. Also i was with Dp the first who changed vote and tried to change the lynch. When I am rolling Town every fucking game then I want to win as Town.
I have to go to work now. I will try to post more, and i will post a Town/Mafia List after work
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On December 14 2023 04:00 sandroba wrote:
Think about it the other way around though, is dmb town only because you think I'm mafia?
To me it makes more sense if both Trfel and DMB are mafia due to DMB avoidance on the initial thread discussion, but I can see both being mafia apart from each other as well.
In an earlier post I already told I think one of you sandro or Trfel are mafia either one not both. Still trying to figure out wich one what make more sense. Also I am still not happy about the Townreads Palmar get. Slam is the only 100% Townread I have. Marv is also in a good light.
Koshi gets more Townie to me since D2 because he gets more active here and I know him as lazy Mafia
As I also already said Chez is a person I can not read but I am def not sure about it and this vote chance makes me really thinking bad of him
Rayn looks first time ever not as scummy as he looks usually to me. Not a safe Townread but definitely not my main mafia thought in my head
Palmar/Chez/Sandro
Palmar/Chez/ Trfel
HF/Palmar/Trfl
HF/Palmar/Sandro
Not my main thought but still possible
Trfl/Sandro/Chez
Trfl/Sandro/Palmar
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On December 14 2023 04:39 sandroba wrote:
DMB you never explained why one of us need to be mafia, can you elaborate on that?
yeah I will in a few hours I am still at work
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Palmar:
If you look on his older games like SNMMII, Personality, Liar Game Mini Mafia he is an insane mafia player (don´t want to push your ego more, but I have to say it.) You don´t change you play style like other players does and this mabye scares me to just not see it, but we have to think of you as mafia as well. In Liar Game Mini Mafia you also lead Town to Vote on Townies and won as Mafia (yeah I know you got lynched but still the first 4 Days was amazing fucking game.
When Koshi is Mafia he is lazy and tired of beeing Mafia. He is here also bit lazy here but not lazy enough for beeing Mafia (atm) Also by every other player you can see slightly difference how they play as Mafia and how the play as Town. You pushing Town to vote on Vivax makes you the townleader who direction Towns but also makes you insane mafia, because you already did that stuff. You manged in LGMM to lead the town to vote a weak townie out D1 everbody voted VE out and I know to get VE wagon is not hard at all just smart and an asshole move btw, because VE is always a easy lynch (We all know that)
I know over years you change normaly, but you do not. When you look at Koshi playing Mafia years ago he was activ and agressvily playing, now he just don´t want to be mafia and is lazy, don´t post much and just go on a randon voting train from town. Thats why I think Koshi is Town atm. He is more activ here than he would as Mafia
Sandro:
You looks less scum to me since I checked you profile as well. You are weak Mafia or it appears to me like this. But what I can say is that you ask so many question as Town. Like in every Town game what I could find you just asked everybody question over question and I don´t feel like this insane question routine you had is happening here. Maybe you changed. But I have to read more from your old games as soon as I find time for it.
Trfl (worst gamername btw)
Noir Mini Mafia is the best game to see how you play as Town, because you show emotions about voting a Town a you take way more pressure on your main mafia thought. You are a very emotional townie and easy to read as Town as well. In this game it seems you don´t take afford to find scum and just jump on an vote wagon from other people. I will quote you later and show you what i mean. But for now i have time problems for the next hours i try to post more and more specif as well.
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On December 15 2023 02:25 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2023 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 15 2023 02:21 Koshi wrote:
If Chezinu is mafia I am going to note down that rayn came in very angry after the wagons on tfrel and sandroba broke up. what? :O Can you build upon what we did today instead of saying irrelevant things about Tfrel and me saying you voted Vivax. Unless you are going to call us mafia. If you do that here and now. Then it is fine. But it doesnt seem like you are calling me mafia.
Yeah as Mafia I would be more active I am just bored already to get all the time same role and not playing finaly mafia. You, Marv and Dp knew how excited I was about playing mafia when we had to cancel the game after few hours because of stupid shit what happend. But I would prefer that you call me mafia instead of bad town. I just didn't had so much time play. Will get more time at the weekend, to play.
Anyway Chez was around when Vivax already made the Townisch posts and didn't chance to. Never got a reason why he still was at Vivax not on Sandro. I am on the Chez lynch because if he his scum then there is a reason why he is not voting on sandro even though Vivax looked at the end so fucking more town than most of the players here and definitely more townisch then sandro. Chez posted 1 and a half our before lynch and don't tell you were not here at the lynch time when you active this shortly before lynch and in Europe it was 4 am but in America a good/normal time to be here #Vote Chez
If he flips mafia it explains why he don't vote Sandro and just vote Trfl. chez/Sandro/Palmar Main scum thoughts I have in my head. If Chez flips green or blue I will have to figure out if trfel or Sandro is scum. But either one of them is. And as this less Townplayers we shouldn't not get any more Townlynchs. When I am already just getting the same fucking role I will win this shit against fucking scum.
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