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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 22 2023 13:42 GMT
#3461
Even Holyflare understood it..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 22 2023 13:45 GMT
#3462
Alright i am out for the night. I will annoy you more tomorrow whenever i wake up.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 22 2023 14:23 GMT
#3463
On December 22 2023 18:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Show nested quote +
On December 22 2023 11:45 sandroba wrote:
On December 21 2023 03:05 sandroba wrote:
How can rayn even defend low effort dmb who is not even here defending herself is mind-boggling. We raised points on dmb which she has not addressed, yet rayn feels confortable speculating what town reasons she should have for it.
That should tell you everything you need to know.

This also, town rayn never does this

Normally that would be an okay reasoning, however you have to understand it was a mylo situation. In my opinion in mylo situation it is all hands on deck, and if we still had a mislynch, i would not have defended DMB like i did. I genuinely just thought she is town, if you don't agree with my reasoning being legit, then there is nothing i can do about it, but what you are saying doesn't make me mafia.

It really does, because you didn't just defend her, you made up reasons to town read stuff she did before even letting her address it. You showed no interest in figuring out if she was town or not, you had that as a presupposition only her and for no one else.
I'm aware I'm not going to convince you you are mafia regardless of alignment, but just want to say you are really nailed for this. I really do think you are straight up mafia, before even trying to figure if Slam is town or not. The way you acted yesterday with me was not a townie figuring out the game, it was mafia putting on a show and throwing suspicion at me and Trfel.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 22 2023 14:27 GMT
#3464
The meta is just your filter if anyone has the patience to go through it. It just proves you keep asking questions and throwing suspicions as mafia, you can be annoying and antagonistic the way you were with me yesterday, and that whatever you did in this game is well within your range to do as mafia.

I'm not moving my vote. Slam has to probably claim mafia at this point to lose if it's him and I would still think twice about moving.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 22 2023 14:31 GMT
#3465
On December 22 2023 23:23 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2023 18:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On December 22 2023 11:45 sandroba wrote:
On December 21 2023 03:05 sandroba wrote:
How can rayn even defend low effort dmb who is not even here defending herself is mind-boggling. We raised points on dmb which she has not addressed, yet rayn feels confortable speculating what town reasons she should have for it.
That should tell you everything you need to know.

This also, town rayn never does this

Normally that would be an okay reasoning, however you have to understand it was a mylo situation. In my opinion in mylo situation it is all hands on deck, and if we still had a mislynch, i would not have defended DMB like i did. I genuinely just thought she is town, if you don't agree with my reasoning being legit, then there is nothing i can do about it, but what you are saying doesn't make me mafia.

It really does, because you didn't just defend her, you made up reasons to town read stuff she did before even letting her address it. You showed no interest in figuring out if she was town or not, you had that as a presupposition only her and for no one else.
I'm aware I'm not going to convince you you are mafia regardless of alignment, but just want to say you are really nailed for this. I really do think you are straight up mafia, before even trying to figure if Slam is town or not. The way you acted yesterday with me was not a townie figuring out the game, it was mafia putting on a show and throwing suspicion at me and Trfel.

Well i just dont agree with that. On DMB i mean.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 22 2023 14:42 GMT
#3466
You dont have to convince me about being mafia.
If you have some questions or something you need to cleared, please ask. If you have stuff you have already made up your mind on, dont bother pls.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 22 2023 14:46 GMT
#3467
Like i am all in figuring out and discussing why slam is / isnt mafia. Same as why rayn is / isnt mafia.

If your goal is to comment on my stuff and have a tunnel vision on it already, again, do not bother.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 22 2023 14:50 GMT
#3468
I've read your filter many times and this whole game is just you coming in the thread when there is some heat on you, trying to diffuse suspicion. It's never you trying to find town or find mafia.
Everytime you gave a reason for someone to be town was based on very flimsy reasoning, reasoning that you would immediately discard as soon as thread sentiment moved the other way.
You are just floating along with thread sentiment, keeping options open and arguing with people to appear townie, which is your mafia MO looking at the other game I linked.
No effort to solve the game. Only real effort you ever put was yesterday to try to get Trfel or me, or whoever not dmb lynched.

sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 22 2023 14:52 GMT
#3469
This is what you posted about the Chezinu vote:
On December 15 2023 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First of all there is no way i am voting for Chezinu over sandroba D2 when i did if i was mafia. Not even in the scenario where i am mafia with Chezinu and sandroba. I was the key person to actually make Chezinu lynch even viable option at that time.

So i guess it's time to look through all the people who are telling i am mafia because i voted for Chezinu, or whatever i did during D2. There is mafia there and there is probably 2 mafia in there.

That means i don't care about Slam, Trfel, DMB.



Knowing this is a flat out lie. You did exactly this as mafia in the game I linked, and you are lying about it to try to garner townie points.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 22 2023 15:07 GMT
#3470
On December 22 2023 23:50 sandroba wrote:
I've read your filter many times and this whole game is just you coming in the thread when there is some heat on you, trying to diffuse suspicion. It's never you trying to find town or find mafia.
Everytime you gave a reason for someone to be town was based on very flimsy reasoning, reasoning that you would immediately discard as soon as thread sentiment moved the other way.
You are just floating along with thread sentiment, keeping options open and arguing with people to appear townie, which is your mafia MO looking at the other game I linked.
No effort to solve the game. Only real effort you ever put was yesterday to try to get Trfel or me, or whoever not dmb lynched.


1/3 of your post:
I guess you can think that, and its reasonable. I play when i can play, there is nothing else to say about that. I disagree i have not been trying to find out who is town or mafia.

2/3:
Thats just simply untrue. If i am mafia why would iever do this?

3/3:
I am definitely not floating around with thread sentiment, D2. D3, D4????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 22 2023 15:08 GMT
#3471
On December 22 2023 23:52 sandroba wrote:
This is what you posted about the Chezinu vote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2023 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First of all there is no way i am voting for Chezinu over sandroba D2 when i did if i was mafia. Not even in the scenario where i am mafia with Chezinu and sandroba. I was the key person to actually make Chezinu lynch even viable option at that time.

So i guess it's time to look through all the people who are telling i am mafia because i voted for Chezinu, or whatever i did during D2. There is mafia there and there is probably 2 mafia in there.

That means i don't care about Slam, Trfel, DMB.



Knowing this is a flat out lie. You did exactly this as mafia in the game I linked, and you are lying about it to try to garner townie points.

Thats your bad meta
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 22 2023 16:12 GMT
#3472
I'm never unvoting.
Up to you guys if you want to wait or be done with this.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 22 2023 16:16 GMT
#3473
On December 23 2023 01:12 sandroba wrote:
I'm never unvoting.
Up to you guys if you want to wait or be done with this.

I didnt expect anything else.
I was just playing until the end.
You have your way and deal with it after the game.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 22 2023 16:22 GMT
#3474
On December 23 2023 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2023 01:12 sandroba wrote:
I'm never unvoting.
Up to you guys if you want to wait or be done with this.

I didnt expect anything else.
I was just playing until the end.
You have your way and deal with it after the game.

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 22 2023 16:33 GMT
#3475
You dont hve to rub it on me i fucked up though.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 22 2023 16:35 GMT
#3476
Not rubbing it in, just saying no hard feelings
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 22 2023 16:48 GMT
#3477
On December 23 2023 01:35 sandroba wrote:
Not rubbing it in, just saying no hard feelings

Its okay. Why am i mafia though besides the things you dont believe in my responses?
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 22 2023 17:09 GMT
#3478
Well I think I said enough, but I can add a bit more perhaps. Not sure what good this does.

Even though throughout your filter you seem like you are reading Trfel and me as town at multiple points, you refuse to reevaluate your stupid reason for the dmb read, even when I pointed out that was no reason to TR anyone. Remember your d2 analysis and what you have been saying you find it very unlikely I'm mafia.

On December 17 2023 10:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On DMB:

- I like her first read on Palmar (not readwise), but it doesn't seem like she has a team behind her ("is Palmar always this overconfident or does he just seem to me like a big headed strong player who trys to hide something")
- She then voted for Vivax, while still doubting Palmar. Idk why she is trying to convince other people that Palmar is not town.
- random comment on favoring a chez lynch (when dp posted something), i dont really see her doing that as mafia knowing chez is mafia
- EoD 1 is just fucking townie from her...

- I don't really see anything wrong on her play D2

Why do people think she is mafia gain?


You take a very different stance in other players in the game than you do in DMB. When you vote HF you feel the need to justify you not voting DMB, which you already said you don't think is mafia:
On December 18 2023 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Holyflare

Out ofthese three i am voting here. I had least somewhat productive discussion with Palmar last night, DMB i dont think is mafia.


On December 18 2023 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like if DMB is mafia shes only mafia with HF, its outright idiotic to have a stance where youre not voting for another unknown player over yourself if it comesto that. As mafia i mean, i think i have only seen rsoultin do that and that caught 2 mafia.


You vote HF and make it so that DMB wagon doesn't take off. Like even in this post it's 100% bs and a soft defense of DMB. How is DMB only mafia with HF? This is absolute horseshit and you know it! Not like dmb cannot lie when she is mafia. Yet you find a way of taking everything dmb says and does at face value, different from how you act regarding any other player in the game.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 22 2023 17:19 GMT
#3479
My vote needs no explanation
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 22 2023 17:33 GMT
#3480
On December 23 2023 02:09 sandroba wrote:
Well I think I said enough, but I can add a bit more perhaps. Not sure what good this does.

Even though throughout your filter you seem like you are reading Trfel and me as town at multiple points, you refuse to reevaluate your stupid reason for the dmb read, even when I pointed out that was no reason to TR anyone. Remember your d2 analysis and what you have been saying you find it very unlikely I'm mafia.

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2023 10:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On DMB:

- I like her first read on Palmar (not readwise), but it doesn't seem like she has a team behind her ("is Palmar always this overconfident or does he just seem to me like a big headed strong player who trys to hide something")
- She then voted for Vivax, while still doubting Palmar. Idk why she is trying to convince other people that Palmar is not town.
- random comment on favoring a chez lynch (when dp posted something), i dont really see her doing that as mafia knowing chez is mafia
- EoD 1 is just fucking townie from her...

- I don't really see anything wrong on her play D2

Why do people think she is mafia gain?


You take a very different stance in other players in the game than you do in DMB. When you vote HF you feel the need to justify you not voting DMB, which you already said you don't think is mafia:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2023 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Holyflare

Out ofthese three i am voting here. I had least somewhat productive discussion with Palmar last night, DMB i dont think is mafia.


Show nested quote +
On December 18 2023 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like if DMB is mafia shes only mafia with HF, its outright idiotic to have a stance where youre not voting for another unknown player over yourself if it comesto that. As mafia i mean, i think i have only seen rsoultin do that and that caught 2 mafia.


You vote HF and make it so that DMB wagon doesn't take off. Like even in this post it's 100% bs and a soft defense of DMB. How is DMB only mafia with HF? This is absolute horseshit and you know it! Not like dmb cannot lie when she is mafia. Yet you find a way of taking everything dmb says and does at face value, different from how you act regarding any other player in the game.

You have tunnel vision.
Please do not.
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