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On December 16 2023 05:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2023 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Here is timeline: ------(1)------------(2)----->
at (1) rayn questions sandroba at (2) Palmar makes his first post
Holyflare, you voted for me after that. You were asked for your reasoning. You said one of the reasons was my town read on Palmar. Now this makes it clear you have read until (2).
We discuss this further, and it becomes apparent you have not processed anything i have written properly enough to even realise i am at point (1) questioning (with my only relevant post in the game atm) your scumread sandroba.
I call you out saying you cannot have thought about my posts properly, because you haven't even read me questioning your scumread sandroba (backed up by your own words). To which you answer "oh i just wanted to get a vote down" and some other shit. But this doesn't make any sense because you already had made a thought process on voting rayn, which you disclosed before.
I understand i am not very good at english or not very good at explaining my shit, but this doesn't make any sense. None of the answers make any sense with what actually happened, and what actually should have been the thought process if anything was true. It's annoying people can't even understand this. I did not think about your posts properly, we are in agreement here. See this is why i thought, and one one of the reasons i still think you're mafia. You voted for me, you claimed reasoning for your vote. You didn't read my posts properly. I didn't, and i don't believe you did that as town.
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On December 16 2023 05:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2023 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 16 2023 05:18 Holyflare wrote: I believe information and forcing people to do things that is uncharacteristic for them or puts them in positions they don't want to be in is a much better situation. Cool, then you understand maybe 35% of what i was doing D2, and i think i succeeded.  You think you were baiting me and I think I was baiting you :shrug: I literally made you, sandroba, Koshi and Palmar act super fucking weirdly (and to some extent marv) based on the new information in thread.
Now i just have to figure out who is mafia.
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On December 16 2023 05:34 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2023 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 16 2023 05:25 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2023 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Here is timeline: ------(1)------------(2)----->
at (1) rayn questions sandroba at (2) Palmar makes his first post
Holyflare, you voted for me after that. You were asked for your reasoning. You said one of the reasons was my town read on Palmar. Now this makes it clear you have read until (2).
We discuss this further, and it becomes apparent you have not processed anything i have written properly enough to even realise i am at point (1) questioning (with my only relevant post in the game atm) your scumread sandroba.
I call you out saying you cannot have thought about my posts properly, because you haven't even read me questioning your scumread sandroba (backed up by your own words). To which you answer "oh i just wanted to get a vote down" and some other shit. But this doesn't make any sense because you already had made a thought process on voting rayn, which you disclosed before.
I understand i am not very good at english or not very good at explaining my shit, but this doesn't make any sense. None of the answers make any sense with what actually happened, and what actually should have been the thought process if anything was true. It's annoying people can't even understand this. I did not think about your posts properly, we are in agreement here. See this is why i thought, and one one of the reasons i still think you're mafia. You voted for me, you claimed reasoning for your vote. You didn't read my posts properly. I didn't, and i don't believe you did that as town. Very well documented that I do in fact do this as town. You also downplayed the whole situation calling me boring and repeating just the same stuff after it was clear noone understood my point which was to me very clear. It works very well if you are mafia, because noone is already interested. But you read me town at the moment, and that was basically a claim to not work with me.
It doesn't sit well with me, take it as you will.
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I can work with you. I don't honestly expect anyone to have an opinion on what i say, nor do i care about anyone having an opinion what i say. I am probably lynched tomorrow no matter what, i don't care. I am just here to figure out who is mafia, for my own amusement. People believe my reads or they don't.
I can't work with you. I don't want to talk about this with you, especially with you. I have already said what i have to say, and i think you're mafia. If you have something else to talk about please do. My reads are not set in stone, and even if they were i am not gonna claim it until the end of night phase.
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On December 16 2023 05:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +2) The problem i have here is that if youre telling the truth i would expect town!HF to get into discussion with me about it, that's what this is pretty much about. Since what i know from you, that's what you usually do. This is a quote from our last game we played together btw. You were mafia, I was town. So it's not like I would actually get into a discussion with you any more than I would there. Why are you saying I should have behaved differently? which game is that?
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On December 16 2023 05:39 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2023 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 14 2023 21:35 Trfel wrote: What is the mafia motivation for sandroba being resistant to dicsussing things other than myself? Genuine question.
are you stupid? Hey Rayn, are you and Trfel buddies or have some history together? This post here from you seems over-aggressive. not more than with other people i guess? I am asking if he's stupid because "if sandroba is mafia and thinks he's gonna get lynched, why would sandroba talk about anything other than Trfel (which was the only thing he basically talked about)".
I am sure you can understand the question...
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On December 16 2023 05:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2023 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can work with you. I don't honestly expect anyone to have an opinion on what i say, nor do i care about anyone having an opinion what i say. I am probably lynched tomorrow no matter what, i don't care. I am just here to figure out who is mafia, for my own amusement. People believe my reads or they don't.
I can't work with you. I don't want to talk about this with you, especially with you. I have already said what i have to say, and i think you're mafia. If you have something else to talk about please do. My reads are not set in stone, and even if they were i am not gonna claim it until the end of night phase. Wait which one is it? lol Did you forget to delete one? Oh i CAN work with you lol ^^
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On December 16 2023 05:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2023 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 16 2023 05:38 Holyflare wrote:2) The problem i have here is that if youre telling the truth i would expect town!HF to get into discussion with me about it, that's what this is pretty much about. Since what i know from you, that's what you usually do. This is a quote from our last game we played together btw. You were mafia, I was town. So it's not like I would actually get into a discussion with you any more than I would there. Why are you saying I should have behaved differently? which game is that? chezinu streak or something idk when that was I can't find the said post rn, so i can't comment on the said thing and why i said that. It is true though, it's what i think, and i am not lying about something like that as mafia.
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Holyflare who do you think is mafia with me atm, and is it because i am mafia or individually from that?
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On December 16 2023 06:21 Koshi wrote:Let's say you did come in uninformed in the thread. You didnt realise thet this sandroba lynch was breaking up. can you please tell me how sandroba lynch was breaking up when i came to the thread?
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sandroba do you know at which point i voted for chezinu? please look at the votes very carefully.
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On December 16 2023 06:26 Koshi wrote: I played bad d1. But your d2 was relative bad. The Chez vote was good. But I still dont get why you did that. Because clearly you had sandroba as mafia as well. So why not sheep marv. Why do i sheep marv? I genuinely read the thread, commented on anything that was not boring. Many people were acting like Chezinu is mafia, but were voting for sandroba. I thought both of them are mafia. I decided to see what happens if i vote for Chezinu (namely what HF does). Everyone starts acting weird (namely you and HF). I decide well if it causes this much shit here, i'm gonna keep my vote here.
And your vote on Sandroba d1 is also sus. But also there it might be coincidence I guess. Why is that?
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On December 16 2023 06:36 Holyflare wrote: This is also why I scum read you and think your bait didn't work and why I tried to bait you btw. The vote was very clearly breaking up on sandro and going to chez Okay, explain me how this was the sentiment.
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I genuinely don't see that. If there's a reasonable explanation to that, maybe my scumreads on you and Koshi are wrong on that part.
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On December 16 2023 06:34 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2023 06:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: sandroba do you know at which point i voted for chezinu? please look at the votes very carefully. From memory, you voted before marv. But tbh it didn't feel like you had an impact in trying to actually get Chez lynched. You are right, at the time i did vote i didn't.
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On December 16 2023 06:39 Koshi wrote: Unless you think sandroba hf and Koshi are mafia you need to stop thinking and claiming you lynched chez.
Because you were vote 3 on sandroba. Making the wagons potentially TvT for the rest of the day. wtf are you talking about?
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D1 it was 13 minutes left in the day, there was NO ALTERNATIVE than Vivax or sandroba, i decided to vote for sandroba.
You can't fucking just say i "made the wagons TvT" because the other alternative is T v nothing".....
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On December 16 2023 06:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2023 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 16 2023 06:36 Holyflare wrote: This is also why I scum read you and think your bait didn't work and why I tried to bait you btw. The vote was very clearly breaking up on sandro and going to chez Okay, explain me how this was the sentiment. If you weren't in the thread you don't understand the vibe it's just easy to tell. Sandro looked so much better after the mason thing that his wagon dying was a foregone conclusion. Thus the question of who is next is in the air. There is not a single consensus scum read or proper push floating around and I've mentioned that I think chez is 100% mafia at some point. Who was going to switch? You were not. Koshi was not (until marv did) Marv was not (until the beating stuff happened, which noone had any idea about at the time) Palmar was not (until everyone else had switched
WHO WAS GOING TO SWITCH? Chezinu was going to vote for sandroba 100% of the time. If i had dropped my vote on sandroba, i think 95% of the time sandroba gets lynched instead of Chezinu.
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Thread sentiment was definitely not towards Chezinu lynch.
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