EPTQuarterly Mafia 1 - part 2 - Page 94
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JacobStrangelove
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TankTopTiger
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DP you have a pass but I'm not actually reading you either way. We're syncing up well on reads but your energy is weird. I would like to lynch JSL. His vibe has been off a while but now I think I've got a more solid read. Firstly, he's just wrong. DMB was a fine NK. There was a decent chance she was blue, and despite her difficulty in establishing thread presence, and her inactivity, she accelerates from zero real hard out of nowhere and has shown in Endurance II that she's very insightful when given time to cook. I think she has difficulty reading specifically me, but that's no biggie because my play has been high variance between games. Secondly and building off that, Jacob is never wrong. Never wrong wrong anyway. Jacob always always always hedges every bet to the extent he's got every base covered. When you add up all of the things he says they're supposed to add up to nothing by design. He's never very right but he's never wrong. He's so open-minded one must assume ample gyri or his brain would slip out his ear. For him to be judgemental about the DMB NK doesn't make sense because Jacob is just too chill for that. Jacob tell me you're not too chill for that? But this sort of thing does make sense to me for a jacob who just took a shot at DMB being blue, thinking it'll look stupid if he's wrong and then finding that to be the case. I don't really see why else he would end up talking about it because he's too nice by default to just randomly start sledging. At his core Jacob desparately wants everyone to get along. It's not like him to shit on DMB and the scum team simultaneously unless he feels pressured toward that sort of behaviour. | ||
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TankTopTiger
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Lamp, I've been really upfront about my lack of contribution. I haven't pretended at all. I told everyone I'm not trying hard, I'm not F5ing, I'm not filtering. Nothing about my tone suggests I think I'm particularly useful. There is no pretending here. You are the one pretending, and that's been my issue with you the entire time. I just tried to get you NKed and even though you're "confirmed town" they thought NKing the AFK was a better use of their time. Despite you awarding yourself PotG, it doesn't seem like maf are too worried about you lol? "No pleeeasse medic me for having vigged a lurker N1 I'm super important" lmao | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
iamp/DP Gl hf ##Vote Koshi | ||
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JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
On September 01 2023 15:02 TankTopTiger wrote:e between games. Secondly and building off that, Jacob is never wrong. Never wrong wrong anyway. Jacob always always always hedges every bet to the extent he's got every base covered. When you add up all of the things he says they're supposed to add up to nothing by design. He's never very right but he's never wrong. He's so open-minded one must assume ample gyri or his brain would slip out his ear. For him to be judgemental about the DMB NK doesn't make sense because Jacob is just too chill for that. Jacob tell me you're not too chill for that? But this sort of thing does make sense to me for a jacob who just took a shot at DMB being blue, thinking it'll look stupid if he's wrong and then finding that to be the case. I don't really see why else he would end up talking about it because he's too nice by default to just randomly start sledging. At his core Jacob desparately wants everyone to get along. It's not like him to shit on DMB and the scum team simultaneously unless he feels pressured toward that sort of behaviour. Yeah normally. I just got vibes that DP was like hmm smart kill scum and if he was scum that's exactly the kinda egotistical behaviour I would expect him to think he could get away with so was pushing on the ego button to see if he would bite at all if it was him. Gonna re read it all later. Also legit thought it was a bit of a strange kill because in theory for me DMB was a big question mark and I feel like it kinda solves the game or it should. (at least after this day happens) I've been a bit burnt out so I haven't gone back to see how it exactly does but I get the vibe if I look for a bit it'll all make sense. At the very least after the next lynch it will. Also I'm posting way to fast and open for my mafia play. Don't get me wrong I shit up the thread and troll and do weird things as mafia but they're all pre checked in a document for scum tells and I've just been spam posting thoughts which I don't think I do as mafia. | ||
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JacobStrangelove
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On September 01 2023 15:39 TankTopTiger wrote: Oh and unrelated but still gonna say because triggered out my mind. Lamp, I've been really upfront about my lack of contribution. I haven't pretended at all. I told everyone I'm not trying hard, I'm not F5ing, I'm not filtering. Nothing about my tone suggests I think I'm particularly useful. There is no pretending here. You are the one pretending, and that's been my issue with you the entire time. I just tried to get you NKed and even though you're "confirmed town" they thought NKing the AFK was a better use of their time. Despite you awarding yourself PotG, it doesn't seem like maf are too worried about you lol? "No pleeeasse medic me for having vigged a lurker N1 I'm super important" lmao See this is just too weak a case imo for you to be making. Sure it /could/ be possible but it's just not practical enough to worry about. (the Iamperf is maf vig case) The thing is even if Iamperf IS a mafia vig it just.... doesn't make sense to worry about until we have other blue roles claiming/dead. | ||
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JacobStrangelove
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JacobStrangelove
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I like marv. Stuck on LS pretty good, I like vivax, Math looks good after vote. Iam Perf is good until multiple counter claims. So yeah there's nobody else. So IMO most likely TTT but DP seems confused just not sure how now all of a sudden TTT is not underhanded enough to be emotionally manipulative. Koshi second Third DP, I was trying to get activity with the two lynches and it's possible another scum messed up the vote switch with DP changing late. Because the way I see it unless both mafia were both bussing one scum has to be in TTT, DP, Iperf (very unlikely) JSL (not possible) | ||
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JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
If Koshi isn't mafia I think it's TTT and DP. Either way TTT for me makes the team. TTT also just went hey JSL is scum after he was called out for having no reads on mafia when I'm aware I'm probably the closest feasible town myslynch right now. So imo it makes most sense statistically speaking to vote for TTT over Koshi. As he's in two potential scum teams. Although this could be another LS Math moment but for the people I think are town (iper and Marv and vivax, who do we all thing Koshi is paired with? Oh I just had a thought, if you think Koshi is paired with me. Then that would be awkward and this wouldn't make sense. Hmm in that case I think personally I would vote TTT but I'll sheep my three town I guess 4 town reads. Whoever most of town votes for Iperf marv, vivax, maybe math I'll vote for. | ||
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JacobStrangelove
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On September 01 2023 16:10 Koshi wrote: Last team iamp/DP Gl hf ##Vote Koshi Ahh I see you're taking the LS's defense was poor and ended up suspicious (which I pointed out but then wasn't convinced based on votenomics and are chosing the no defence route hope they argue amoung themselves until lynch isn't me route. | ||
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JacobStrangelove
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On September 01 2023 16:28 JacobStrangelove wrote: Hmm in that case I think personally I would vote TTT but I'll sheep my three town I guess 4 town reads. Whoever most of town votes for Iperf marv, vivax, maybe math I'll vote for. Also just to be crystal clear whoever these guys vote for I'll vote with them against the people they are voting for. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On September 01 2023 11:29 iamperfection wrote: ah fuck it was gonna wait to see what marv said. ill say marv sheeped me now. ##Vote Koshi God damnit. ##vote: Koshi | ||
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DarthPunk
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On September 01 2023 16:10 Koshi wrote: Last team iamp/DP Gl hf ##Vote Koshi Any thoughts on this Marv? (I see you voted him, but still) Usually quite weak to this shit. But it looks like scum to me this time | ||
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DarthPunk
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On September 01 2023 16:12 JacobStrangelove wrote: Yeah normally. I just got vibes that DP was like hmm smart kill scum and if he was scum that's exactly the kinda egotistical behaviour I would expect him to think he could get away with so was pushing on the ego button to see if he would bite at all if it was him. Gonna re read it all later. Also legit thought it was a bit of a strange kill because in theory for me DMB was a big question mark and I feel like it kinda solves the game or it should. (at least after this day happens) I've been a bit burnt out so I haven't gone back to see how it exactly does but I get the vibe if I look for a bit it'll all make sense. At the very least after the next lynch it will. Also I'm posting way to fast and open for my mafia play. Don't get me wrong I shit up the thread and troll and do weird things as mafia but they're all pre checked in a document for scum tells and I've just been spam posting thoughts which I don't think I do as mafia. I like the. Dmb nk. analysis In a way. It does kind of solve the game unless we are very very wrong. But mafia tend to think townies look better than they are kind of why it’s hard for them to make cases and develop scum reads so they probs thought dmb was obv town. Or it’s TTT + koshi and they needed ttt to get to endgame. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On September 01 2023 16:42 DarthPunk wrote: Any thoughts on this Marv? (I see you voted him, but still) Usually quite weak to this shit. But it looks like scum to me this time What are you talking about DP Team contains the 99% confirmed town vig? Course Koshi doesn’t think that. Other way of looking at it - if Koshi is town, thinks you are mafia, but thinks I am town - obviously he tries to persuade me to his cause | ||
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TankTopTiger
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My bullying Lamp is recreational only. I don't think he's scum because I'm the only one reacting to it which means this is how people expect him to be. I just think it makes the game worse when on top of having to sift through the lies of the red team we have to sift through the self-promoting delusion of the green. When I was tossing up about whether to get modkilled, I asked myself what allowances I would make in order to actually play. One of those allowances was that I would stop self-regulating my responses to dumb shit (I actually think in this case it was making me play worse, when normally it's good to keep town on track). TBH, I was expecting to be having a go at more people (Marv, Koshi, Rayne if he'd still been alive) but they simmered down. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On September 01 2023 17:06 marvellosity wrote: What are you talking about DP Team contains the 99% confirmed town vig? Course Koshi doesn’t think that. Other way of looking at it - if Koshi is town, thinks you are mafia, but thinks I am town - obviously he tries to persuade me to his cause Ok thanks. Made me feel better. | ||
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TankTopTiger
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marvellosity
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DarthPunk
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