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JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 01 2023 00:19 GMT
#1801
The logic doesn't compute. Unless both scum decided to bus or one of the above is scum.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 01 2023 00:48 GMT
#1802
Ls is the easiest bus in the world and math might be scum so you should not read too much into the wagon if you are town.

Ttt and I are both town Jake and TTT even says that now.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 01 2023 00:58 GMT
#1803
On August 31 2023 18:22 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 18:14 iamperfection wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:57 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
I don't really know. I'm not trying to lead town, that would be mega hubris considering the disparity in investment. But I know town is not doing so hot when I'm lynched, and I think that's the most likely scenario we're in. I'm half convinced Lamp is mafia now just because I can't reconcile his delusional takes with anything but a personality disorder or him padding his highlight reel as mafia by vigging town and confirming himself green off it. Like... It just doesn't make sense to me that he could possibly think he (or town in general) have done anything of note.

Assuming Lamp is town, which was my default assumption before the public masturbation, town has mislynched Chez (which he celebrated), misvigged VE (which he celebrated), and correctly lynched the biggest lynchbait in TL history (which he seems to think guarantees town victory). Nothing that has been done was challenging or insightful. We just killed low contributors and got 1/3 (soon to be 1/4), and that one we did get was basically guaranteed to go down the moment town didn't have strong direction. I'm bent over backwards trying to understand his enthusiasm unless he's actually done something cool which would be trading in red vig for town status (in which case, yeah that's pretty cool).

I'm not even really trying to convince anyone because I don't think I get to catch mastermind plays with so little effort, I just can't get past this nonsense it's like an attention trap. Someone tell me why I'm wrong please for the love of god. Are there setups with both red and green vig?


This is town TTT btw.

He’s not a good lynch here

Why


This is just not something he could ever do as mafia.

The emotional congruence of a defeated townie, plus his feelings on
you of disdain mixed with suspicion and more defeat.

It’s an emotional cocktail I don’t think he could fake pretty much ever.

why do you think this anyways? is he incapable of lying ?
his posts during the night phase seem to me feigning contribution by wasting time on thinking about me while doing no scum hunting.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 01 2023 01:18 GMT
#1804
On September 01 2023 09:58 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 18:22 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 18:14 iamperfection wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:57 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
I don't really know. I'm not trying to lead town, that would be mega hubris considering the disparity in investment. But I know town is not doing so hot when I'm lynched, and I think that's the most likely scenario we're in. I'm half convinced Lamp is mafia now just because I can't reconcile his delusional takes with anything but a personality disorder or him padding his highlight reel as mafia by vigging town and confirming himself green off it. Like... It just doesn't make sense to me that he could possibly think he (or town in general) have done anything of note.

Assuming Lamp is town, which was my default assumption before the public masturbation, town has mislynched Chez (which he celebrated), misvigged VE (which he celebrated), and correctly lynched the biggest lynchbait in TL history (which he seems to think guarantees town victory). Nothing that has been done was challenging or insightful. We just killed low contributors and got 1/3 (soon to be 1/4), and that one we did get was basically guaranteed to go down the moment town didn't have strong direction. I'm bent over backwards trying to understand his enthusiasm unless he's actually done something cool which would be trading in red vig for town status (in which case, yeah that's pretty cool).

I'm not even really trying to convince anyone because I don't think I get to catch mastermind plays with so little effort, I just can't get past this nonsense it's like an attention trap. Someone tell me why I'm wrong please for the love of god. Are there setups with both red and green vig?


This is town TTT btw.

He’s not a good lynch here

Why


This is just not something he could ever do as mafia.

The emotional congruence of a defeated townie, plus his feelings on
you of disdain mixed with suspicion and more defeat.

It’s an emotional cocktail I don’t think he could fake pretty much ever.

why do you think this anyways? is he incapable of lying ?
his posts during the night phase seem to me feigning contribution by wasting time on thinking about me while doing no scum hunting.


I just think that this emotional congruence/defeat/quitting is a direction that he wouldn't take as mafia because it wouldn't realistically occur to him to try it and not something he would think was an interesting way to play as mafia regardless.

TTT will play games because he want's to explore a certain way of playing even if it means he will lose.

I can see him trying a bunch of approaches as mafia, but not this one and I think he won't do whatever it takes to win if it stylistically is not interested.

I thought you thought he was town anyway?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 01 2023 01:33 GMT
#1805
i think a lot of things
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 01 2023 01:40 GMT
#1806
Tip Top Town

Marv: If he is mafia he deserves the victory and I will happily lose to him. Someone worth working with. His reads are important to pay attention to if you are town.


Town

Iamperfection: He is probably town due to differences from last game and the Vig shot. It is definitely possible for him to pull off the VE shot as a mafia Vig, but I'm not sure they would have a vig and roleblocker anyway.

He has been lazier and less effective recently but that could also be because he feels so confident in his town status.

Vivax: He has seemed pretty townie to me ever since our fight day one, and he recruited DMB to vote for LS which would be a next level bus manoeuvre as mafia. Needs to step up and be more curious, buttown for now.

TTT See my reasons above, I can see he is slowly getting more engaged recently, hopefully he can thrive later with less pressure and more information.

Null:
DMB: Big downgrade here, she has not really been the insightful, productive scumhunter that I know she can be. is being town read for reasons that I don't believe are enough. I guess i would want vivax's input here also.

Math nothing about his play makes me think he is town except for his interactions early with LS. Looks worse and worse as time goes on..

Mafia:

JSL:

Trolling and wifom has been the main elements of his play, the only time i really felt he was invested in a lynch in a genuine way was when he tried to lynch math over LS last minute.

LS calling him dodgy and then defending him straight afterwards is a weird association, particularly because I feel like LS usually just dick rides stronger players he knows well, rather than a random troll voting newbie.

Koshi

Nothing about him is town, his case reads like a classic case that is trying to lynch a target than a true attempt at discerning alignments, deciding on a lynch and then reading a filter, instead of reading a filter and deciding a lynch is a dead giveaway and kind of a slip.

He usually insightful and useful as town, usually more engaged, usually more invested.

Lynch with fire and extreme prejudice.


Koshi first always, then one of JSL MATH DMB in that order imo.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 01 2023 01:45 GMT
#1807
On August 31 2023 21:05 JacobStrangelove wrote:
It’s a new dawn it’s a new day it’s a new show! I am your Host Grack Attack here with Sexy Cop bringing you the best in porn action.

Oh look starting us off early is JSL coming in hard and deep on LS, I've never seen such piston action. Look it's inspired the other Math and Koshi and jumping right in there! It's not a threeway without four people as I always say.

Oh look there's marve sauntering in bringing TTT in chains, JSL's adhd has gotten the better of him and he's wandered over as well.

Not willing to let a hole go unfilled Vivax goes over to LS to continue the degredation. "I think he's looking for those bonus sloppy seconds points Grack"

"Indeed he could be... Oh look what's this Math has entered the room and Immeditally JSL and Perfection sprint at him. They're like rabbits in heat JSL must be going for a triple but no! Perfection sneaks in just before him and the crowd goes wild"

"That'll be a lot of points lost not getting three in a row first, Rookie error from the former heavyweight champion"

"Dp joins in for some DP of math" Things are heating up in the fuckerdome.

Marv decides he's had enough of whipping TTT and moves over to LS instead oh boy never have I seen one man take so much dick.

"OH WATCH OUT WATCH OUT RKO DIE BABY OUT OF NO WHERE JUMPS ON DIE BABY"S DICK RIGHT AS HE"S COMING" "That's a pro gamer move if I've ever seen it, Oh there she goes she's slapping him now!"

Viavx shouts from across the room hey another one get the combo and die baby immeditally runs over to start fucking LS

"Those team points there for the win, If the Die Vivax team make to to regionals this year they're sure to be a hot contender" "They surely have the Talents to make it"

JSL starts pleading with others to fuck Math instead. "My dick can't take it much longer but I need the extra orgy points"

Dp decides he's had enough of LS and agree's that it's better JSL gets the points than that whore Koshi who's currently in second place and there's two many people and he isn't getting enough time so he moves over to math instead and sticks it in his ear. "Any Whole's a goal as they say"

Perfection decides this his his moment. and goes back to fucking LS.

"Sadly while LS did a lot of work and performed admirably as cumslut he Just was too far behind in points after the first event and didn't make up enough points to make it to round three."


Jacob what do you mean by sexy cop here??
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 01 2023 01:46 GMT
#1808
On September 01 2023 10:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 21:05 JacobStrangelove wrote:
It’s a new dawn it’s a new day it’s a new show! I am your Host Grack Attack here with Sexy Cop bringing you the best in porn action.

Oh look starting us off early is JSL coming in hard and deep on LS, I've never seen such piston action. Look it's inspired the other Math and Koshi and jumping right in there! It's not a threeway without four people as I always say.

Oh look there's marve sauntering in bringing TTT in chains, JSL's adhd has gotten the better of him and he's wandered over as well.

Not willing to let a hole go unfilled Vivax goes over to LS to continue the degredation. "I think he's looking for those bonus sloppy seconds points Grack"

"Indeed he could be... Oh look what's this Math has entered the room and Immeditally JSL and Perfection sprint at him. They're like rabbits in heat JSL must be going for a triple but no! Perfection sneaks in just before him and the crowd goes wild"

"That'll be a lot of points lost not getting three in a row first, Rookie error from the former heavyweight champion"

"Dp joins in for some DP of math" Things are heating up in the fuckerdome.

Marv decides he's had enough of whipping TTT and moves over to LS instead oh boy never have I seen one man take so much dick.

"OH WATCH OUT WATCH OUT RKO DIE BABY OUT OF NO WHERE JUMPS ON DIE BABY"S DICK RIGHT AS HE"S COMING" "That's a pro gamer move if I've ever seen it, Oh there she goes she's slapping him now!"

Viavx shouts from across the room hey another one get the combo and die baby immeditally runs over to start fucking LS

"Those team points there for the win, If the Die Vivax team make to to regionals this year they're sure to be a hot contender" "They surely have the Talents to make it"

JSL starts pleading with others to fuck Math instead. "My dick can't take it much longer but I need the extra orgy points"

Dp decides he's had enough of LS and agree's that it's better JSL gets the points than that whore Koshi who's currently in second place and there's two many people and he isn't getting enough time so he moves over to math instead and sticks it in his ear. "Any Whole's a goal as they say"

Perfection decides this his his moment. and goes back to fucking LS.

"Sadly while LS did a lot of work and performed admirably as cumslut he Just was too far behind in points after the first event and didn't make up enough points to make it to round three."


Jacob what do you mean by sexy cop here??

you know. you dont have to say everything you see right.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 01 2023 01:47 GMT
#1809
On September 01 2023 10:46 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2023 10:45 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 21:05 JacobStrangelove wrote:
It’s a new dawn it’s a new day it’s a new show! I am your Host Grack Attack here with Sexy Cop bringing you the best in porn action.

Oh look starting us off early is JSL coming in hard and deep on LS, I've never seen such piston action. Look it's inspired the other Math and Koshi and jumping right in there! It's not a threeway without four people as I always say.

Oh look there's marve sauntering in bringing TTT in chains, JSL's adhd has gotten the better of him and he's wandered over as well.

Not willing to let a hole go unfilled Vivax goes over to LS to continue the degredation. "I think he's looking for those bonus sloppy seconds points Grack"

"Indeed he could be... Oh look what's this Math has entered the room and Immeditally JSL and Perfection sprint at him. They're like rabbits in heat JSL must be going for a triple but no! Perfection sneaks in just before him and the crowd goes wild"

"That'll be a lot of points lost not getting three in a row first, Rookie error from the former heavyweight champion"

"Dp joins in for some DP of math" Things are heating up in the fuckerdome.

Marv decides he's had enough of whipping TTT and moves over to LS instead oh boy never have I seen one man take so much dick.

"OH WATCH OUT WATCH OUT RKO DIE BABY OUT OF NO WHERE JUMPS ON DIE BABY"S DICK RIGHT AS HE"S COMING" "That's a pro gamer move if I've ever seen it, Oh there she goes she's slapping him now!"

Viavx shouts from across the room hey another one get the combo and die baby immeditally runs over to start fucking LS

"Those team points there for the win, If the Die Vivax team make to to regionals this year they're sure to be a hot contender" "They surely have the Talents to make it"

JSL starts pleading with others to fuck Math instead. "My dick can't take it much longer but I need the extra orgy points"

Dp decides he's had enough of LS and agree's that it's better JSL gets the points than that whore Koshi who's currently in second place and there's two many people and he isn't getting enough time so he moves over to math instead and sticks it in his ear. "Any Whole's a goal as they say"

Perfection decides this his his moment. and goes back to fucking LS.

"Sadly while LS did a lot of work and performed admirably as cumslut he Just was too far behind in points after the first event and didn't make up enough points to make it to round three."


Jacob what do you mean by sexy cop here??

you know. you dont have to say everything you see right.


Yeah I do know that.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 01 2023 01:48 GMT
#1810
Huh thought it was cop not rel co hosting because cop said happy birthday to ls.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 01 2023 01:49 GMT
#1811
I guess rel is in a sex cop costume.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 01 2023 01:50 GMT
#1812
On September 01 2023 10:48 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Huh thought it was cop not rel co hosting because cop said happy birthday to ls.


which post was this?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 01 2023 01:51 GMT
#1813
On September 01 2023 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2023 10:48 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Huh thought it was cop not rel co hosting because cop said happy birthday to ls.


which post was this?


Like miles back when everyone was saying happy birthday to ls like cop and alakaslam entered the thread. Almost made a case on alakaslam due to it before double checking he wasn't in the game.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 01 2023 01:52 GMT
#1814
On September 01 2023 10:48 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Huh thought it was cop not rel co hosting because cop said happy birthday to ls.


That post was 4 days ago?

And you had nothing to do with Copcake, why would she be a character in your story? when some people in the game have not been previously?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 01 2023 01:52 GMT
#1815
Might have even been D1 game 1 but this whole time I've thought cop was co host
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 01 2023 01:53 GMT
#1816
Ok jake is mafia. Jake and Koshi.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 01 2023 01:53 GMT
#1817
On September 01 2023 10:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2023 10:48 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Huh thought it was cop not rel co hosting because cop said happy birthday to ls.


That post was 4 days ago?

And you had nothing to do with Copcake, why would she be a character in your story? when some people in the game have not been previously?



Wtf are you on about. I legit just thought cop was co host due to that.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 01 2023 01:55 GMT
#1818
Basically you have too much knowledge about someone that is not part of the game, but is tangentially involved. the question is, why?

I think she has been mentioned in your Discord or something.

Therefore: Mafia.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 01 2023 01:55 GMT
#1819
i think he is suggesting your actually setting up a cop claim for later even though you claimed vanilla town which should get you lynched.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 01 2023 01:56 GMT
#1820
See perf that makes sense. I could buy that but specifically I did claim VT.

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