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On August 31 2023 21:05 JacobStrangelove wrote:
It’s a new dawn it’s a new day it’s a new show! I am your Host Grack Attack here with Sexy Cop bringing you the best in porn action.
Oh look starting us off early is JSL coming in hard and deep on LS, I've never seen such piston action. Look it's inspired the other Math and Koshi and jumping right in there! It's not a threeway without four people as I always say.
Oh look there's marve sauntering in bringing TTT in chains, JSL's adhd has gotten the better of him and he's wandered over as well.
Not willing to let a hole go unfilled Vivax goes over to LS to continue the degredation. "I think he's looking for those bonus sloppy seconds points Grack"
"Indeed he could be... Oh look what's this Math has entered the room and Immeditally JSL and Perfection sprint at him. They're like rabbits in heat JSL must be going for a triple but no! Perfection sneaks in just before him and the crowd goes wild"
"That'll be a lot of points lost not getting three in a row first, Rookie error from the former heavyweight champion"
"Dp joins in for some DP of math" Things are heating up in the fuckerdome.
Marv decides he's had enough of whipping TTT and moves over to LS instead oh boy never have I seen one man take so much dick.
"OH WATCH OUT WATCH OUT RKO DIE BABY OUT OF NO WHERE JUMPS ON DIE BABY"S DICK RIGHT AS HE"S COMING" "That's a pro gamer move if I've ever seen it, Oh there she goes she's slapping him now!"
Viavx shouts from across the room hey another one get the combo and die baby immeditally runs over to start fucking LS
"Those team points there for the win, If the Die Vivax team make to to regionals this year they're sure to be a hot contender" "They surely have the Talents to make it"
JSL starts pleading with others to fuck Math instead. "My dick can't take it much longer but I need the extra orgy points"
Dp decides he's had enough of LS and agree's that it's better JSL gets the points than that whore Koshi who's currently in second place and there's two many people and he isn't getting enough time so he moves over to math instead and sticks it in his ear. "Any Whole's a goal as they say"
Perfection decides this his his moment. and goes back to fucking LS.
"Sadly while LS did a lot of work and performed admirably as cumslut he Just was too far behind in points after the first event and didn't make up enough points to make it to round three."
I want that shit after D3 as well. So no vote on you
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On August 31 2023 22:43 TankTopTiger wrote:
Explain your reasons for thinking Marv is town like I'm five. I already understand the LS one but I don't think that's enough for you two to get along like you are rn.
Marv why are you so confident in DP town?
Seeing you two get along feels gutterally wrong. Your egos coexist in too small a space for there to be this little friction. How can anybody feel comfortable with this?
I don't understand what your saying.
Why would their be friction if they are both town. Even if they weren't is their even history of them not liking each other. Both have played here forever and I don't remember any animosity.
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On August 31 2023 04:04 Koshi wrote:2) Math, Chez and VE. We are currently on page 4 of DP his filter and except for shitfighting with Vivax and me he hasn't done shit. So after rayn, marv, iamp and Koshi talk about VE and vote VE. DP comes in the thread and starts with saying he doesn't want to lynch VE but wants to lynch math. You are all free to look yourself and look for posts of DP looking into Math but you won't find any except these: Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:Catch up post: On August 28 2023 03:27 mathenalin wrote:
Am i a snowflake if i vote VE or is his vote on me so unbelievably bad that its warranted
This post is sus as fuck. Why is he checking the temperature of the thread before he votes? Like if you are town you know this motherfucker is wrong about you and trying to kill you. The self awareness of how he is being perceived in the thread strikes me. On August 28 2023 03:36 mathenalin wrote:On August 28 2023 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2023 03:25 mathenalin wrote:On August 28 2023 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mathenalin, around 10 hours ago you said you were prioritizing getting a read on iamp and Jacob. I see you formed a read on iamp but there is no mention in your filter about Jacob (even after you talked with DP about your reads -- so it doesn't fall under "if anyone has questions for me" anymore i guess).
Did you ever form a read on Jacob? I'd say i don't like him but i cant point to anything as, thats scum behaviour. His point about dp following rules and iamp being "on point" was silly. His vote on marv being anything other than a joke. Then talking about voting chez but immediately calling it a "pressure" vote which instantly makes it lose power.I'd lynch him and not lose sleep but i cant form a slam dunk case. I find it quite weird you treat this as anti-town behavior for some reasons: 1) Every vote particularly during D1 is "pressure", since noone has a good clue who is mafia (especially seems to be true this game since nobody really seems to have a even remotely good case they trust. 2) You said yourself, before voting for Chezinu, at twice, that pressure on Chezinu is good and should be kept up. Why did you say that while simultaneously claiming if you announce pressure it loses power over the target? Well i tried to pretend I had a reason Hate this, town doesn't do this. Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Don't want to Lynch VE.
I do want to lynch MATHENALIN.
I could compromise onto Chezinu but I don't have a good grasp on his alignment so it would be tossing a coin and for future thread health.
##Vote: Mathenalin the next post after voting math we get this: Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. I will come back to this but first all mentions about math in DP filter page 4-5-6-7: Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 09:08 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:08 Vivax wrote:On August 28 2023 09:01 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 09:01 Chezinu wrote:
Ah the demons are out I see. your the only demon i see right now Amen Banish the creature. Idk why DP is so un-okay with this option maybe we‘re disposing of one of his horned minions I literally said I was ok with it, I just think Math is scum. Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 09:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Meh there is something there with Math, but I can't exactly find what it is.. I BUT ALSO DP WANTS YOU TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT I WRITE. GO LOOK INTO 80 POSTS OF DP FOR MENTIONS OF MATH. You will only find the above and this: spoiler cuz holy fuck: + Show Spoiler +On August 28 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 09:27 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 28 2023 09:26 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
Can I ask why a town Chez would say that?
vanilla town Chez: Oh no I'm dying
vanilla town Chez: Better make sure the blue role dies too What the fuck are you on about? same thoughts... Who would you lynch out of VE, Math and Chezinu? Cause we need to consolidate onto a wagon right now. On August 28 2023 09:47 DarthPunk wrote:
are you around TTT did you finish filter diving Math? On August 28 2023 10:25 DarthPunk wrote:
TTT hows that Mathenalin filter dive coming along On August 28 2023 10:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you.
But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. Why am i mafia for thinking that? Why won't you post about mathenalin after saying you would filter dive him hours ago. On August 28 2023 10:57 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:57 Chezinu wrote:
That or Vivax is having a mental breakdown Do you still think Mathenalin is red? On August 28 2023 11:18 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 11:16 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 10:40 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. *tentative fistbump*? what do you think of this DP. Mission accomplished that he isnt getting lynched then fucks off? I think he was at work, and not able to post that much. TBH he isn't looking great still, but I'd rather lynch math and TTT at this point. On August 28 2023 11:25 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 11:23 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I honestly don't get the math and ttt reads tbh. Can you spell out the cases in one place for clarity? Read my big post. but yeah I will summarise later. I am supposed to be working after all. Something to consider: 2 townies on the Math wagon, the lack of traction there is interesting to me. Ok. So in 80 posts aka 4 pages we only got 2 reasons: 1) math checked the temperature before voting 2) math said he pretended to have a reason. But if you read the conversation with rayn it is not that he caught pretending to have a reason but that he pressured with pretending to have a reason. So I am not sure what DP is saying that townies don't do that. DP most likely just read "pretend" and went with it. Now asks yourself. Is this good enough for DP to not follow marv; rayn, iamp; koshi into VE? Maybe yes because he townreads VE for reasons given in his big catch up post which I am too stupid for to understand but you can go and figure it out. But are there other targets that DP should have voted instead of math? Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Catch up post:
I have some issues with TTT this game I think.
Generally I would expect Mafia!TTT to still have good points, to seem coherent and logical and to ask questions that are reasonable and pertinent.
The difference is that as Mafia they fail to lead to anything productive or execute a scumhunting agenda.
In endures 1 and 2 TTT was clearly pushing a scumhunting agenda, and in these past two starts I haven't seen that from him really at all.
I think the attempted trap on Vivax was something I saw him use on marv in Endures 1 so that is a potential town trait.
I also think he would have improved his play from feedback from last game, so yeah, not green on TTT which is not really something I enjoy. Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 09:28 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:24 die_meatbaby wrote:
I suspect too many players at the moment and have only one townread (Koshi)
IMP has a strange way of playing/writing. Before I vote you I have to read through old games of yours.
Vivax behaves exactly the same as in the very first game when he was dr. Maybe I am colorblind, but maybe not
My grandma told me once i should never vote on somebody with a nicename Chez otherwise a ghost comes to haunt you in every game in PC.
#vote TTT
To be honest, I can't describe it.
It's just missing. It miss the ambition you have to find the wolf. It miss the discussions when you focus on a player and put him under pressure. There is just so much missing.
It feels like a different person is playing in this game. I can't help but see you on the Red team. This is basically how I feel about TTT at this point as well Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote:Mmmm you first. @DP
Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo. I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer". You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff. I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self, I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town. The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that. There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point. Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:51 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 10:45 TankTopTiger wrote:On August 28 2023 10:40 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you.
But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. This is what I meant. This is what makes you red. Town TTT would not do that. Town TTT would ignore this und would try to get everybody to go the his original suspect and don´t just suspect somebody who was suspecting him. This is definitely not a Town game you make here. Thats not TTT what i am used do DMB, everyone is already on my lynch. There is no need to refocus town because unless something changes, I get my way. Regarding the OMGUS, yes it is in a way, but it's not just that. Town DP doesn't do this. DP respects my late game after Endures I, he made up my aptitude in early game. Town DP does not think that "D1 is when you first post". Town DP does not give up town equity on a scaler over them not having proven themselves early in the game. You'll note I'm not filtering DP rn. I'm not making a huge war. I'm in a back and forth because I want to get him to take hard stances that he can't take back later if/when I actually go after him. You don;t really understand what I said about you do you. I am not saying you play well day 1 or at the start of games. I am saying that usually, within 24-48 hours of you being in a game, there are reasons for me to feel you could be town. usually because you are posting logical and insightful questions or arguments that resonate with my view of the game. This is why we are usually on the same page. But this game is absent of that, and your posts, while logical are lacking insight, and do not resonate with me. I agree to others you look weak when you start posting, but not to me which is what matters to me. Also I am not giving up town equity here even if you are town somehow. So not sure what you are actually saying here again. See this is another example of what you are saying is logically right, but meaningfully absent. This is bottom page 6. So I ask again. Should DP be on mathelin or TTT? He ended up on math over TTT over VE. Why? Mafia!DP knew VE and Chez would flip town and was preparing misslynch number 3. That's why.
Obviously time has flown away from me. Turns out being secretary for my chess club  had a little bit more admin than I was ready for :p
Nonetheless I needed to read this Koshi case properly. I actually don't mind the content of this post from Koshi. But the conclusion doesn't seem that logical to me. It's really difficult to pair DP and TTT in this game. The only world where it's possible is where there's some sort of mutual double bus, then DP coaches (?) TTT to make a couple of emotionally 'congruent' posts to allow him to flip his read on his scumbuddy. It's not impossible - but it is very unlikely. So back to the bolded bit - assuming maf DP knows VE/Chez's alignment, then TTT is as good a mislynch as math.
Actually a better argument is that DP is spreading the net of suspicion wide - to TTT and math - to try to secure multiple future mislynches. But in that case why the about turn on TTT recently?
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On August 31 2023 04:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2023 04:44 iamperfection wrote:
I mean we can speculate all we want it's pretty much impossible to know exactly what they were thinking. Maybe they just killed him because he's a good player. Yes. Or because DP is mafia and felt threatened. Or both. It's part 4 of a case. Nothing alone makes DP 100% mafia. Nothing ever will do that.
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On September 01 2023 04:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2023 04:04 Koshi wrote:2) Math, Chez and VE. We are currently on page 4 of DP his filter and except for shitfighting with Vivax and me he hasn't done shit. So after rayn, marv, iamp and Koshi talk about VE and vote VE. DP comes in the thread and starts with saying he doesn't want to lynch VE but wants to lynch math. You are all free to look yourself and look for posts of DP looking into Math but you won't find any except these: On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:Catch up post: On August 28 2023 03:27 mathenalin wrote:
Am i a snowflake if i vote VE or is his vote on me so unbelievably bad that its warranted
This post is sus as fuck. Why is he checking the temperature of the thread before he votes? Like if you are town you know this motherfucker is wrong about you and trying to kill you. The self awareness of how he is being perceived in the thread strikes me. On August 28 2023 03:36 mathenalin wrote:On August 28 2023 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2023 03:25 mathenalin wrote:On August 28 2023 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mathenalin, around 10 hours ago you said you were prioritizing getting a read on iamp and Jacob. I see you formed a read on iamp but there is no mention in your filter about Jacob (even after you talked with DP about your reads -- so it doesn't fall under "if anyone has questions for me" anymore i guess).
Did you ever form a read on Jacob? I'd say i don't like him but i cant point to anything as, thats scum behaviour. His point about dp following rules and iamp being "on point" was silly. His vote on marv being anything other than a joke. Then talking about voting chez but immediately calling it a "pressure" vote which instantly makes it lose power.I'd lynch him and not lose sleep but i cant form a slam dunk case. I find it quite weird you treat this as anti-town behavior for some reasons: 1) Every vote particularly during D1 is "pressure", since noone has a good clue who is mafia (especially seems to be true this game since nobody really seems to have a even remotely good case they trust. 2) You said yourself, before voting for Chezinu, at twice, that pressure on Chezinu is good and should be kept up. Why did you say that while simultaneously claiming if you announce pressure it loses power over the target? Well i tried to pretend I had a reason Hate this, town doesn't do this. On August 28 2023 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Don't want to Lynch VE.
I do want to lynch MATHENALIN.
I could compromise onto Chezinu but I don't have a good grasp on his alignment so it would be tossing a coin and for future thread health.
##Vote: Mathenalin the next post after voting math we get this: On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. I will come back to this but first all mentions about math in DP filter page 4-5-6-7: On August 28 2023 09:08 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:08 Vivax wrote:On August 28 2023 09:01 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 09:01 Chezinu wrote:
Ah the demons are out I see. your the only demon i see right now Amen Banish the creature. Idk why DP is so un-okay with this option maybe we‘re disposing of one of his horned minions I literally said I was ok with it, I just think Math is scum. On August 28 2023 09:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Meh there is something there with Math, but I can't exactly find what it is.. I BUT ALSO DP WANTS YOU TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT I WRITE. GO LOOK INTO 80 POSTS OF DP FOR MENTIONS OF MATH. You will only find the above and this: spoiler cuz holy fuck: + Show Spoiler +On August 28 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 09:27 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 28 2023 09:26 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
Can I ask why a town Chez would say that?
vanilla town Chez: Oh no I'm dying
vanilla town Chez: Better make sure the blue role dies too What the fuck are you on about? same thoughts... Who would you lynch out of VE, Math and Chezinu? Cause we need to consolidate onto a wagon right now. On August 28 2023 09:47 DarthPunk wrote:
are you around TTT did you finish filter diving Math? On August 28 2023 10:25 DarthPunk wrote:
TTT hows that Mathenalin filter dive coming along On August 28 2023 10:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you.
But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. Why am i mafia for thinking that? Why won't you post about mathenalin after saying you would filter dive him hours ago. On August 28 2023 10:57 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:57 Chezinu wrote:
That or Vivax is having a mental breakdown Do you still think Mathenalin is red? On August 28 2023 11:18 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 11:16 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 10:40 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. *tentative fistbump*? what do you think of this DP. Mission accomplished that he isnt getting lynched then fucks off? I think he was at work, and not able to post that much. TBH he isn't looking great still, but I'd rather lynch math and TTT at this point. On August 28 2023 11:25 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 11:23 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I honestly don't get the math and ttt reads tbh. Can you spell out the cases in one place for clarity? Read my big post. but yeah I will summarise later. I am supposed to be working after all. Something to consider: 2 townies on the Math wagon, the lack of traction there is interesting to me. Ok. So in 80 posts aka 4 pages we only got 2 reasons: 1) math checked the temperature before voting 2) math said he pretended to have a reason. But if you read the conversation with rayn it is not that he caught pretending to have a reason but that he pressured with pretending to have a reason. So I am not sure what DP is saying that townies don't do that. DP most likely just read "pretend" and went with it. Now asks yourself. Is this good enough for DP to not follow marv; rayn, iamp; koshi into VE? Maybe yes because he townreads VE for reasons given in his big catch up post which I am too stupid for to understand but you can go and figure it out. But are there other targets that DP should have voted instead of math? On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Catch up post:
I have some issues with TTT this game I think.
Generally I would expect Mafia!TTT to still have good points, to seem coherent and logical and to ask questions that are reasonable and pertinent.
The difference is that as Mafia they fail to lead to anything productive or execute a scumhunting agenda.
In endures 1 and 2 TTT was clearly pushing a scumhunting agenda, and in these past two starts I haven't seen that from him really at all.
I think the attempted trap on Vivax was something I saw him use on marv in Endures 1 so that is a potential town trait.
I also think he would have improved his play from feedback from last game, so yeah, not green on TTT which is not really something I enjoy. On August 28 2023 09:28 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:24 die_meatbaby wrote:
I suspect too many players at the moment and have only one townread (Koshi)
IMP has a strange way of playing/writing. Before I vote you I have to read through old games of yours.
Vivax behaves exactly the same as in the very first game when he was dr. Maybe I am colorblind, but maybe not
My grandma told me once i should never vote on somebody with a nicename Chez otherwise a ghost comes to haunt you in every game in PC.
#vote TTT
To be honest, I can't describe it.
It's just missing. It miss the ambition you have to find the wolf. It miss the discussions when you focus on a player and put him under pressure. There is just so much missing.
It feels like a different person is playing in this game. I can't help but see you on the Red team. This is basically how I feel about TTT at this point as well On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote:Mmmm you first. @DP
Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo. I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer". You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff. I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self, I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town. The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that. There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point. On August 28 2023 10:51 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 10:45 TankTopTiger wrote:On August 28 2023 10:40 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you.
But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. This is what I meant. This is what makes you red. Town TTT would not do that. Town TTT would ignore this und would try to get everybody to go the his original suspect and don´t just suspect somebody who was suspecting him. This is definitely not a Town game you make here. Thats not TTT what i am used do DMB, everyone is already on my lynch. There is no need to refocus town because unless something changes, I get my way. Regarding the OMGUS, yes it is in a way, but it's not just that. Town DP doesn't do this. DP respects my late game after Endures I, he made up my aptitude in early game. Town DP does not think that "D1 is when you first post". Town DP does not give up town equity on a scaler over them not having proven themselves early in the game. You'll note I'm not filtering DP rn. I'm not making a huge war. I'm in a back and forth because I want to get him to take hard stances that he can't take back later if/when I actually go after him. You don;t really understand what I said about you do you. I am not saying you play well day 1 or at the start of games. I am saying that usually, within 24-48 hours of you being in a game, there are reasons for me to feel you could be town. usually because you are posting logical and insightful questions or arguments that resonate with my view of the game. This is why we are usually on the same page. But this game is absent of that, and your posts, while logical are lacking insight, and do not resonate with me. I agree to others you look weak when you start posting, but not to me which is what matters to me. Also I am not giving up town equity here even if you are town somehow. So not sure what you are actually saying here again. See this is another example of what you are saying is logically right, but meaningfully absent. This is bottom page 6. So I ask again. Should DP be on mathelin or TTT? He ended up on math over TTT over VE. Why? Mafia!DP knew VE and Chez would flip town and was preparing misslynch number 3. That's why. Obviously time has flown away from me. Turns out being secretary for my chess club had a little bit more admin than I was ready for :p Nonetheless I needed to read this Koshi case properly. I actually don't mind the content of this post from Koshi. But the conclusion doesn't seem that logical to me. It's really difficult to pair DP and TTT in this game. The only world where it's possible is where there's some sort of mutual double bus, then DP coaches (?) TTT to make a couple of emotionally 'congruent' posts to allow him to flip his read on his scumbuddy. It's not impossible - but it is very unlikely. So back to the bolded bit - assuming maf DP knows VE/Chez's alignment, then TTT is as good a mislynch as math. Actually a better argument is that DP is spreading the net of suspicion wide - to TTT and math - to try to secure multiple future mislynches. But in that case why the about turn on TTT recently?
I am thinking about this more, and the irony is that this case has ended up firming up my townread on DP. Obvs the goal of mafia is to mislynch X number of people over the course of the game. But DP is coming off his scumread on math (it seems we are somehow swapping over how we feel about math, but never mind!) and has done a total about turn on TTT. It just really doesn't fit. And that's never mind other stuff like the shenannies which do look town (deadline last night for example).
Koshi is probably just mafia here. I agree with DP's conclusions about Koshi's case, it does look like mafia making a case because they need to, because I don't think any of the conclusions drawn are town!Koshi level. Flicking through Koshi's filter it doesn't have the same 'joie de vivre' - for want of a better phrase - as it does when normally flicking through his filter.
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i am peacing out before my other half NKs me himself. Will check in before sleep
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I've had a change of heart.
If I were medic, I'd flip a coin between Marv and DP. IMO Lamp is a bad save despite his insistence. Him trying to suck up the medic action is either pure mafioso or pure self-involvement (probably the latter judging from everyone's non-reaction to him).
IMO, town is winning assuming DP and Marv are town. I think if they're both mafia, town is too boot-licker or too disengaged to take either down with the other one backing them up. And if one of them is mafia, I don't think the other one allows themselves to be pocketed (or if they do, I'm blaming the game loss squarely on them  PPP). If Rayne were around this math wouldn't work but his gameplan seems to be to get NKed every game lmao.
So I think the only course is to assume (and hope) they are both town and move on from there. If this is the case, having them both this late into the game would be a big win. Last night I was trying to reduce the chance of their NK (I do think they're acting odd together, but not enough to base my whole worldview on it). This morning, I reconsidered this line because I don't think mafia care too much who I suspect given my small influence and disengagement.
So I think we make it so that mafia can't confidently kill off these two players without risking their entire NK action.
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Edit: *winning come tomorrow assuming they're both still alive
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This has been a quiet but interesting night. I to am hoping for a blue role with info and or a save. I did think ttt could be town hence my switch from ls yesterday but with ls being mafia...
I reckon you're seeing though. A flip or two wrong and suddenly I think town will be happy to lynch then as a pair.
I have thoughts on medic logic but that'll be a post night post.
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You think town will lynch them without the other's consent? Strong disagree.
I don't think you realise how dependent on try-hards the town economy is.
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We need to lynch Koshi BTW,
100% scum.
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On September 01 2023 09:02 TankTopTiger wrote:
You think town will lynch them without the other's consent? Strong disagree.
I don't think you realise how dependent on try-hards the town economy is.
If for example you flip and are town and you know dp best and dp has been your main if only scum read the whole game. I can only hope town will follow.
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On September 01 2023 09:10 DarthPunk wrote:
We need to lynch Koshi BTW,
100% scum.
Similar with a koshi flip but I'm happy to go koshi first if you're convinced on ttt.
Koshi was on ls though and with you now saying ttt is town I would almost prefer the ttt lynch because (while admittedly my fault) you and ttt did end up on math with me instead of Ls.
So I feel while koshi might be scum and is quite likely scum ttt alignment tells us more/ is a safer bet.
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Only issue is if ttt and DP are town which is possible if a bit clown world.
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If ttt and DP are town with me and none of us were on ls that's the weirdest bus okay I've ever seen. No that just doesn't make sense.
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It basically has to be either or unless perf is scum claiming got as ttt says but if so he'll practically be caught if a good blue claim comes out after another blue dies so nananan.
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