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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 08:00 GMT
#1761
On August 31 2023 16:58 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 16:55 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:49 marvellosity wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:35 marvellosity wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:21 DarthPunk wrote:
I know this is wifom but does anyone actually think I would swap off as mafia?!?!

If anyone can


Is part of the reason you always want to lynch me because of memories of my scum play??

Partly. But also partly because I often don’t get the way you think as town either (Koshi case n1 in endures 1 good example)


Does koshi look town to you in this game?

Yes and no. I still haven’t read what he wrote on you properly yet.


I think koshi is mafia and ttt is town.

I think it could be koshi + jake
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 08:00 GMT
#1762
On August 31 2023 17:00 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 16:59 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:57 marvellosity wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:54 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:49 marvellosity wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:35 marvellosity wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:21 DarthPunk wrote:
I know this is wifom but does anyone actually think I would swap off as mafia?!?!

If anyone can


Is part of the reason you always want to lynch me because of memories of my scum play??

Partly. But also partly because I often don’t get the way you think as town either (Koshi case n1 in endures 1 good example)


Ahah. you don’t get the way I choose to communicate how I think.

Something like that.

Do you think I need to change something??

How could I improve coach?


I’m not criticising. Because guess what, you nailed Copcake d1 the game after. The fact /I/ can’t make sense of everything you do doesn’t mean you should change.


I was being genuine. I think you may have read sarcasm there. I’m always open to feel back from my newbie coach after all.


No I didn’t read sarcasm it’s a compliment, you don’t need me telling you how to play.


Ok ok. thanks coach.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 08:04 GMT
#1763
TTT can you really reconsider your scum read on me please so we can squeeze the mafia together
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 08:07 GMT
#1764
I suggest people read the first two posts ls made in the game.

Fucking juicy
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 08:15 GMT
#1765
Is this another game that scum let me live because they incorrectly assume they can lynch me.

Then they suicide in to me with the force of a thousand suns thus revealing their scumminess for all the world to see.

Yeah….probably.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2023 08:22 GMT
#1766
Non-workout evening tonight so will have the time to get stuck in.

Things I want to think about: is Koshi’s case decent or not (thread sentiment seems to be saying no, but can’t always trust that :p)
What is Jakey doing
How do I feel about DP’s view of TTT (feels like DP is not mafia with TTT, so DP probs telling the truth on his feelings about him either way)
Math???
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 08:28 GMT
#1767
I’m also rescinding my scum read on math by the way Marv.

His early interaction with lLS looks too genuine to me for them to be mafia together.

He is not like obv town to me like he is to you, but that does change things a lot.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2023 08:30 GMT
#1768
He’s not obv town to me either
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 08:32 GMT
#1769
On August 31 2023 17:30 marvellosity wrote:
He’s not obv town to me either


Ok good.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2023 08:36 GMT
#1770
On August 30 2023 18:00 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2023 17:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok Marv is town I think.

Marv what’s your confidence interval on math should I trust your eyes more than my own here or is it a situation where it’s just a coin toss who is right??

It’s really like this. If math had continued posting like he had been posting all game I’d be sitting here telling you he was town. For aforementioned reasons. I can quote (well I’m not on a pc so I can’t) 5-10 posts I think sound very natural, confident, blasé, however you want to say it - and I think they’re very difficult to post and maintain as mafia.

The problem I’m increasingly coming up against the more I think about it is that he give up post is so incongruent with any of that. He came under pressure and delivered what I thought was a nice defence to the case. But then peaced out.

I’m really struggling to marry the confident, tonally excellent math with the giving up math. It feels like those 2 players can’t be the same person. So maybe they’re just not. It /is/ a lot easier to marry up a math who was only faking confidence etc, had his confidence hit by a lot of pressure, and folded.

I haven’t really got a firm conclusion here tbh which I’d really like to. I’m not 80% on him anyway.

^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 08:38 GMT
#1771
On August 31 2023 17:36 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2023 18:00 marvellosity wrote:
On August 30 2023 17:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok Marv is town I think.

Marv what’s your confidence interval on math should I trust your eyes more than my own here or is it a situation where it’s just a coin toss who is right??

It’s really like this. If math had continued posting like he had been posting all game I’d be sitting here telling you he was town. For aforementioned reasons. I can quote (well I’m not on a pc so I can’t) 5-10 posts I think sound very natural, confident, blasé, however you want to say it - and I think they’re very difficult to post and maintain as mafia.

The problem I’m increasingly coming up against the more I think about it is that he give up post is so incongruent with any of that. He came under pressure and delivered what I thought was a nice defence to the case. But then peaced out.

I’m really struggling to marry the confident, tonally excellent math with the giving up math. It feels like those 2 players can’t be the same person. So maybe they’re just not. It /is/ a lot easier to marry up a math who was only faking confidence etc, had his confidence hit by a lot of pressure, and folded.

I haven’t really got a firm conclusion here tbh which I’d really like to. I’m not 80% on him anyway.

^


Yeah I remember.

I falsely added you in my mind to the group of people who were saying he looked good due to wagonomics.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2023 08:38 GMT
#1772
I don’t think wagonomics mean very much until we know math’s alignment
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 08:41 GMT
#1773
On August 31 2023 17:38 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t think wagonomics mean very much until we know math’s alignment


True.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 31 2023 09:14 GMT
#1774
On August 31 2023 16:57 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 16:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
I don't really know. I'm not trying to lead town, that would be mega hubris considering the disparity in investment. But I know town is not doing so hot when I'm lynched, and I think that's the most likely scenario we're in. I'm half convinced Lamp is mafia now just because I can't reconcile his delusional takes with anything but a personality disorder or him padding his highlight reel as mafia by vigging town and confirming himself green off it. Like... It just doesn't make sense to me that he could possibly think he (or town in general) have done anything of note.

Assuming Lamp is town, which was my default assumption before the public masturbation, town has mislynched Chez (which he celebrated), misvigged VE (which he celebrated), and correctly lynched the biggest lynchbait in TL history (which he seems to think guarantees town victory). Nothing that has been done was challenging or insightful. We just killed low contributors and got 1/3 (soon to be 1/4), and that one we did get was basically guaranteed to go down the moment town didn't have strong direction. I'm bent over backwards trying to understand his enthusiasm unless he's actually done something cool which would be trading in red vig for town status (in which case, yeah that's pretty cool).

I'm not even really trying to convince anyone because I don't think I get to catch mastermind plays with so little effort, I just can't get past this nonsense it's like an attention trap. Someone tell me why I'm wrong please for the love of god. Are there setups with both red and green vig?


This is town TTT btw.

He’s not a good lynch here

Why
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 09:22 GMT
#1775
On August 31 2023 18:14 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 16:57 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
I don't really know. I'm not trying to lead town, that would be mega hubris considering the disparity in investment. But I know town is not doing so hot when I'm lynched, and I think that's the most likely scenario we're in. I'm half convinced Lamp is mafia now just because I can't reconcile his delusional takes with anything but a personality disorder or him padding his highlight reel as mafia by vigging town and confirming himself green off it. Like... It just doesn't make sense to me that he could possibly think he (or town in general) have done anything of note.

Assuming Lamp is town, which was my default assumption before the public masturbation, town has mislynched Chez (which he celebrated), misvigged VE (which he celebrated), and correctly lynched the biggest lynchbait in TL history (which he seems to think guarantees town victory). Nothing that has been done was challenging or insightful. We just killed low contributors and got 1/3 (soon to be 1/4), and that one we did get was basically guaranteed to go down the moment town didn't have strong direction. I'm bent over backwards trying to understand his enthusiasm unless he's actually done something cool which would be trading in red vig for town status (in which case, yeah that's pretty cool).

I'm not even really trying to convince anyone because I don't think I get to catch mastermind plays with so little effort, I just can't get past this nonsense it's like an attention trap. Someone tell me why I'm wrong please for the love of god. Are there setups with both red and green vig?


This is town TTT btw.

He’s not a good lynch here

Why


This is just not something he could ever do as mafia.

The emotional congruence of a defeated townie, plus his feelings on
you of disdain mixed with suspicion and more defeat.

It’s an emotional cocktail I don’t think he could fake pretty much ever.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 31 2023 09:28 GMT
#1776
On August 31 2023 16:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 16:21 DarthPunk wrote:
I know this is wifom but does anyone actually think I would swap off as mafia?!?!

If anyone can

And make quick takes before the night post unlikely I think
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 31 2023 11:38 GMT
#1777
On August 31 2023 06:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 05:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 31 2023 05:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 05:31 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 31 2023 05:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and hi DP and ya I agree his case on you is very awful and you brought up a good point.



What’s up LS?

If you are town I would start posting all your reads.

Not much on my way home and ya I will post my reads when I get home.

DP: Town his fights was pushing the game forward and is actively trying to work with everyone.
math: Mafia I already said why towards Koshi.
Vivax: Can't tell if he changed his meta to posting more as mafia or his skill did decrease regarding his ability to read me because I feel like town Vivax would still try to figure the game out now. Null
Marv: Likely mafia he would not get my alignment wrong if he was town.
DMB: My 3rd biggest townread her reaction to Iamp's claim cements her being town I will argue with whoever thinks she is mafia.
Koshi: Likely mafia his case on DP was very horrendous for the amount of effort he put into it plus he been extra lazy for his own standards.
Iamp: unCCed Vig and had no reason to claim vig if he was mafia. Biggest townread.
TTT: Second biggest townread felt like he been more insightful this game compared to his last scum game plus his stuff towards DP seems very genuine.
JSL: Idk what to think of him but his posting been very all over the place idk if it's confused town or mafia trying to create chaos. Null.


Oh yeah he did simp for me day one. That's interesting.

These where his reads before flipping. I'm gonna wifom the shit out of them.

Thinks DP, DMB and TTT are town, Koshi, marv, math) is mafia rest null.

I don't think he would be like all my mafia are town right as he's about to die that seems turbo dumb even for him. actually you know what I walked away from this post and I just wifom'd myself in circles gonna drop this train of thought.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 31 2023 12:05 GMT
#1778
It’s a new dawn it’s a new day it’s a new show! I am your Host Grack Attack here with Sexy Cop bringing you the best in porn action.

Oh look starting us off early is JSL coming in hard and deep on LS, I've never seen such piston action. Look it's inspired the other Math and Koshi and jumping right in there! It's not a threeway without four people as I always say.

Oh look there's marve sauntering in bringing TTT in chains, JSL's adhd has gotten the better of him and he's wandered over as well.

Not willing to let a hole go unfilled Vivax goes over to LS to continue the degredation. "I think he's looking for those bonus sloppy seconds points Grack"

"Indeed he could be... Oh look what's this Math has entered the room and Immeditally JSL and Perfection sprint at him. They're like rabbits in heat JSL must be going for a triple but no! Perfection sneaks in just before him and the crowd goes wild"

"That'll be a lot of points lost not getting three in a row first, Rookie error from the former heavyweight champion"

"Dp joins in for some DP of math" Things are heating up in the fuckerdome.

Marv decides he's had enough of whipping TTT and moves over to LS instead oh boy never have I seen one man take so much dick.

"OH WATCH OUT WATCH OUT RKO DIE BABY OUT OF NO WHERE JUMPS ON DIE BABY"S DICK RIGHT AS HE"S COMING" "That's a pro gamer move if I've ever seen it, Oh there she goes she's slapping him now!"

Viavx shouts from across the room hey another one get the combo and die baby immeditally runs over to start fucking LS

"Those team points there for the win, If the Die Vivax team make to to regionals this year they're sure to be a hot contender" "They surely have the Talents to make it"

JSL starts pleading with others to fuck Math instead. "My dick can't take it much longer but I need the extra orgy points"

Dp decides he's had enough of LS and agree's that it's better JSL gets the points than that whore Koshi who's currently in second place and there's two many people and he isn't getting enough time so he moves over to math instead and sticks it in his ear. "Any Whole's a goal as they say"

Perfection decides this his his moment. and goes back to fucking LS.

"Sadly while LS did a lot of work and performed admirably as cumslut he Just was too far behind in points after the first event and didn't make up enough points to make it to round three."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2023 12:11 GMT
#1779
On August 31 2023 21:05 JacobStrangelove wrote:
It’s a new dawn it’s a new day it’s a new show! I am your Host Grack Attack here with Sexy Cop bringing you the best in porn action.

Oh look starting us off early is JSL coming in hard and deep on LS, I've never seen such piston action. Look it's inspired the other Math and Koshi and jumping right in there! It's not a threeway without four people as I always say.

Oh look there's marve sauntering in bringing TTT in chains, JSL's adhd has gotten the better of him and he's wandered over as well.

Not willing to let a hole go unfilled Vivax goes over to LS to continue the degredation. "I think he's looking for those bonus sloppy seconds points Grack"

"Indeed he could be... Oh look what's this Math has entered the room and Immeditally JSL and Perfection sprint at him. They're like rabbits in heat JSL must be going for a triple but no! Perfection sneaks in just before him and the crowd goes wild"

"That'll be a lot of points lost not getting three in a row first, Rookie error from the former heavyweight champion"

"Dp joins in for some DP of math" Things are heating up in the fuckerdome.

Marv decides he's had enough of whipping TTT and moves over to LS instead oh boy never have I seen one man take so much dick.

"OH WATCH OUT WATCH OUT RKO DIE BABY OUT OF NO WHERE JUMPS ON DIE BABY"S DICK RIGHT AS HE"S COMING" "That's a pro gamer move if I've ever seen it, Oh there she goes she's slapping him now!"

Viavx shouts from across the room hey another one get the combo and die baby immeditally runs over to start fucking LS

"Those team points there for the win, If the Die Vivax team make to to regionals this year they're sure to be a hot contender" "They surely have the Talents to make it"

JSL starts pleading with others to fuck Math instead. "My dick can't take it much longer but I need the extra orgy points"

Dp decides he's had enough of LS and agree's that it's better JSL gets the points than that whore Koshi who's currently in second place and there's two many people and he isn't getting enough time so he moves over to math instead and sticks it in his ear. "Any Whole's a goal as they say"

Perfection decides this his his moment. and goes back to fucking LS.

"Sadly while LS did a lot of work and performed admirably as cumslut he Just was too far behind in points after the first event and didn't make up enough points to make it to round three."

I’m a little bit turned on
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
August 31 2023 13:43 GMT
#1780
Explain your reasons for thinking Marv is town like I'm five. I already understand the LS one but I don't think that's enough for you two to get along like you are rn.

Marv why are you so confident in DP town?

Seeing you two get along feels gutterally wrong. Your egos coexist in too small a space for there to be this little friction. How can anybody feel comfortable with this?
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