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LightningStrike
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DarthPunk
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On June 12 2023 11:25 LightningStrike wrote: Darth I know I had used WIFOM before as mafia regarding Night Kill stuff but here I am actively trying to figure things out hence my question. Btw who in the hell is Japan? Mafia sorry autocorrect I’m phone posting | ||
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DarthPunk
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On June 12 2023 11:32 LightningStrike wrote: And this brings another question for you Darth: Current read on TTT? Not as town as last game. | ||
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LightningStrike
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Ok that makes more sense now in that post. Who knows though regardless. What from TTT is bothering you this game that he isn't as town as last game for you. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On June 12 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote: Obviously I think someone who knows Hapa's rep killed him but the question is who had played with Hapa before? He was also objectively townie and had thread presence. I also think mz is town so maybe maf wanted to push things in that direction. I think people who didn’t care about the lynch seeing it was town on town on town, are the people to look at. Mafia really struggle with last minute vote switching so it’s a good place to look for info. It’s part of the reason I agree with Rayn that vivax is town, also why I thought hapa and mz were town. I need to re read cause it didn’t feel like ttt actually cared about who got lynched but that could also be style or whatever. But yeah firm on mz, vivax, you, me as town at this point. Rayn would be in that group too but I guess I respect his scum game too much, thinking he could appear this town or and actually plausibly still be mafia (not thinking that is the case) | ||
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DarthPunk
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On June 12 2023 11:36 LightningStrike wrote: Ok that makes more sense now in that post. Who knows though regardless. What from TTT is bothering you this game that he isn't as town as last game for you. He is less proactive in executing his scum hunting agenda and more just sheeping reads/ controlling the thread. I don’t want to lynch him today. But definitely we’d to out some work In towards determining his alignment. Ppl I want to look at today are Copcake, violetya, slam, ttt. Marvs slot if possible | ||
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LightningStrike
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On June 12 2023 11:40 DarthPunk wrote: He was also objectively townie and had thread presence. I also think mz is town so maybe maf wanted to push things in that direction. I think people who didn’t care about the lynch seeing it was town on town on town, are the people to look at. Mafia really struggle with last minute vote switching so it’s a good place to look for info. It’s part of the reason I agree with Rayn that vivax is town, also why I thought hapa and mz were town. I need to re read cause it didn’t feel like ttt actually cared about who got lynched but that could also be style or whatever. But yeah firm on mz, vivax, you, me as town at this point. Rayn would be in that group too but I guess I respect his scum game too much, thinking he could appear this town or and actually plausibly still be mafia (not thinking that is the case) True he was pretty townie and had thread presence. Given I know my alignment and we DMB's flip and how I think of your alignment that is fair to look at who didn't actually care about the lynch in terms of who flips. | ||
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LightningStrike
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On June 12 2023 11:42 DarthPunk wrote: He is less proactive in executing his scum hunting agenda and more just sheeping reads/ controlling the thread. I don’t want to lynch him today. But definitely we’d to out some work In towards determining his alignment. Ppl I want to look at today are Copcake, violetya, slam, ttt. Marvs slot if possible Ya I see where you coming from there on him. Also agreed on who we should take a closer look at. | ||
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LightningStrike
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On June 12 2023 11:43 DarthPunk wrote: Sorry for all the typos. Phone posting sucks No problem I do hate phone posting too myself. | ||
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TankTopTiger
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On June 11 2023 10:46 Hapahauli wrote: ##Vote DMB I don't like the vote, but I think its better than the other viable options. I"d be happy to lynch MZ today or TTT today and that's about it. | ||
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TankTopTiger
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I just spent a lot of time inside my head on you DP. Real spooky. I thought that a red DP would see the difference between DMB last game and this game, and know it meant blue. Then they could lead the mislynch, but have meta from previous game on leading mislynches. Bonus points for backing away from it at the last minute by reading them green (ad lib). But it was Rayn that pointed you in that direction, so that play doesn't work out unless redDP is very fortunate and just had this play fall into his lap (I don't think Rayn's suggestion was red at all). There were some other things. Your reactions have felt artificial twice to me - one was in response to CC, can't remember the other. You being onboard with policy feels irrational but I'm not actually sure on your position on that and WW may have softened you up. But overall it's too much reach, so I'm back to treating you as green based on the overall pro-townliness of your play. Your read on me is exactly what I would expect and I can't argue against it. I'm not as engaged in poor information environments. Rayn is green. LS is weird because I think he decided at the start of the game that he was going to play differently and so my main reason for giving him the benefit of the doubt feels artificial. Someone said at some point that he feels very in the moment and I agree with that. He also seems to come across as artificial whenever he thinks he should be providing an anger response (congruent with autism claim). So I sort of just want to leave him and see where he takes it for now. I still see CC as red. I don't really want to engage with her because she counter-tunnels and shits up the thread leaving everyone confused. I don't think there's anything she could say that would change my mind, but she also hasn't really done anything since that alleviates or intensifies my suspicion. The read is stale but it's still my firmest read. Overall, I think town have been eating town a lot, but also in many directions. This sort of environment is something I wanted at the start of the game (not the TvT thing, but the diversity of opinions thing as opposed to last game which felt sychophantic to me from many). This pushes me in the direction of thinking that mafia are more passive, so toward Vayo, Marv, and Slam. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On June 12 2023 13:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think i was very good at D1 until some point. Should have just lynched TTT when i had a chance, with Hapa. It was until the dmb wagon and you weren’t exactly wrong either. She was playing very differently. Why you red on TTT? | ||
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