|
TTT is obv mafia, but should we kill DP first?
|
On June 13 2023 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2023 22:50 CopCake wrote:On June 12 2023 22:48 DarthPunk wrote:On June 12 2023 22:47 CopCake wrote:On June 12 2023 11:11 Chezinu wrote:
raynpelikoneet
Vivax
Meapak_Ziphh
marvellosity
DarthPunk
Vayoletta
CopCake
TankTopTiger - saved for endgame with Slam ————- What does that even mean? he is not calling anyone anything there. Top people tend to be town, and the deeper, the scummier, that is how most people do lists here. Show nested quote +On June 12 2023 22:52 DarthPunk wrote:
It seems like you are incredibly conscious of any, even remote suspicion towards you.
This is also a classic mafia trait, more focused on suspicion towards you than determining the alignment of others.
You can't be fucking serious DP? Everyone probably understood that list post,...
People misunderstood the list. That was me putting people in possible Mafia group. TTT was last cause Slam gotz to kill TTT last.
|
On June 13 2023 03:36 Vayoletta wrote:
Im now free from my long term guest and can play properly.
My PoE right now is Vivax, Chez, Marvellosity and Mz.
I believe LS’s claim. I read Copcake and Slam town. I trust rayn’s and CopCake’s point on DP to not suspect him now, but I am not quite sold on rayn being town. I hope I will find him as I go through the material.
I hope I did not forget anyone.
Say what!?!?!
|
On June 13 2023 03:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu, you ol' messenger i summon thee!!!
What do you think Slam's alignment is, and can you give some reasoning behind the read please?
Troll objective.
As may have gathered. I give myself handicaps cause style before victory and the host give me handicaps cause I'm just awesome at thus game.
Anyways. Troll objective is to have Slam, Chez, and TTT toward end game. Then we kill TTT.
That's why the list us the way it is. Rayn and Vivax entertains me, so they live for now.
|
Rayn and Vivax makes such a great team that Chez doesn't want to lynch them.
|
OK. time to series. seriously. Let start a keto diet. Step 1. Eliminate carbs.
#Vote Copcake
+ Show Spoiler +Now, you just need to argue how your are the cop guarding the cake and preventing us from eating it. Then other may argue that there is no cake and that the cake is a lie. But others will say it just matters what is on the inside. Then I'll be like. I love strawberry cake.. raspberries... cherries...
|
On June 13 2023 08:54 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 08:50 TankTopTiger wrote:
I've got a large window in about 7 hours. Looks like my head is on the block and I feel like people are stonewalling all my questions so I guess I can't do anything but get interrogated and convince people that way. Leave me questions and I'll answer when I'm back.
I will say this: People are holding me to a standard from last game not realising that was the only game of forum mafia I've done any heavy lifting. I think it was my eighth game overall and I don't read games I'm not in. At around this time last game, VE was about as red to me as CC is now (for very different reasons), but unlike last game, I'm in hot water and my views don't align with what other people are seeing.
Marv you say I'm treating CC differently to how I treated you. Yes. You are considered like some sort of deity as town, so your lack of contribution is both a huge deviation from your town game, and a gaping congruence with your red game. You even gave up at one point which is something you're known for as scum. But also, comparing the time during the game, I was lynching VE at approx. this point. My tunnel on you came from extremely consistent accounts of your town and scum play born out over a longer period of time. IIRC I was cooking you D2 but wasn't trying to lynch. I deliberately tried to give CC room to breathe and she's done nothing with that room (I gave LS room to breathe last game if you recall, then lynched the next day or w/e).
I'm also trying not to do the aggro thing because I feel my biggest mistakes last game were made when I got my blood up tunneling you. When me and you were brawling I wasted an enormous amount of energy and felt completely unlistened to by the rest of the thread. You came out ahead in the eyes of town even though from the brawl I had grown more confident in my read. If you are town you will need to defend yourself and also look for scum, its hard but it is what it is.
Sometimes I read CC as CopCake and other times I think of Counter Claim. I'm not sure who to cc on this message so I posting this publicly here on this thread.
|
On June 13 2023 09:03 DarthPunk wrote:
Trying to find out where I am at in the game, these are my very loose positions as of right now.
Green:
Marv, Rayn, DP, Vivax, Slam, LS
Green Brown:
Chez, MZ
Red Brown:
TTT, Copcake,
Red:
Vayoletta,
Somehow I feel like there might be a Mafia in the green group but I don't know who that would be at this point.
I really am not sure why there would be no mafia on my wagon day 1 and Vivax, LS and DMB are all town, so even though CC is looking better to me, how likely that 4 townies are on my wagon and mafia don't jump on?
Now that is what I call BEAUTIFUL!!
|
|
|
|
|
Finally, people are looking at me. Thanks for the attention!!
|
On June 13 2023 08:45 CopCake wrote:
Another blue! Ahahahahahha the irony.
|
On June 13 2023 12:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Does this post agree with itself TTT? Show nested quote +On June 12 2023 12:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
A bit disorganised at this point, reading through all the posts since #30 atm, I'm up to #53 so I'm biased towards happenings within that frame.
I just spent a lot of time inside my head on you DP. Real spooky. I thought that a red DP would see the difference between DMB last game and this game, and know it meant blue. Then they could lead the mislynch, but have meta from previous game on leading mislynches. Bonus points for backing away from it at the last minute by reading them green (ad lib). But it was Rayn that pointed you in that direction, so that play doesn't work out unless redDP is very fortunate and just had this play fall into his lap (I don't think Rayn's suggestion was red at all). There were some other things. Your reactions have felt artificial twice to me - one was in response to CC, can't remember the other. You being onboard with policy feels irrational but I'm not actually sure on your position on that and WW may have softened you up.
But overall it's too much reach, so I'm back to treating you as green based on the overall pro-townliness of your play. Your read on me is exactly what I would expect and I can't argue against it. I'm not as engaged in poor information environments.
Rayn is green.
LS is weird because I think he decided at the start of the game that he was going to play differently and so my main reason for giving him the benefit of the doubt feels artificial. Someone said at some point that he feels very in the moment and I agree with that. He also seems to come across as artificial whenever he thinks he should be providing an anger response (congruent with autism claim). So I sort of just want to leave him and see where he takes it for now.
I still see CC as red. I don't really want to engage with her because she counter-tunnels and shits up the thread leaving everyone confused. I don't think there's anything she could say that would change my mind, but she also hasn't really done anything since that alleviates or intensifies my suspicion. The read is stale but it's still my firmest read.
Overall, I think town have been eating town a lot, but also in many directions. This sort of environment is something I wanted at the start of the game (not the TvT thing, but the diversity of opinions thing as opposed to last game which felt sychophantic to me from many). This pushes me in the direction of thinking that mafia are more passive, so toward Vayo, Marv, and Slam. You said CC is stale but how is it your firmest read when you say you're thinking mafia are more passive? Let's put all the policy lynch stuff from D1 aside, would you vote Vayoletta today after the last 36+ hours of thread progression? Show nested quote +On June 12 2023 16:07 TankTopTiger wrote:On June 11 2023 03:33 Vivax wrote:
Probably town:
- Hapa (attitude mostly, like a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh)
- Marv (decent followup to bugs bunny intro, aligns with Hapa in some aspects)
- Rayn (I don't think he'd scumread Chez for his vote on me as mafia and would rather go along with it comes to mind as a reason)
- LS (Christmas tree salience recycled first post + I kind of agree with Slam on his initial analysis at this point.I think he'd have folded and fell over by now as scum)
- Vayo (weird gut reason, seems familiar idk how)
- Cop (tonally seems like annoyed town to me also #hashtag has me pocketed so congratz if scum)
Not sure, could murder:
Chezinu, Slam, DMB, MZ
Want to murder:
DP, TTT How did you have reads on Marv or Vayo? These seem like really weak reasons to give someone town points. Ok I don't disagree with you. Your posts are structurally almost identical to the last game but something still feels a little off to me and I think it's because you're still stuck on CopCake who I've been mostly green on so far and I feel like you're dancing around calling vayoletta scum even though you were one of the leading reasons that lynch never got off the ground. I think if you spent more time on your other reads and less time on CC I'd be more inclined to townread you again but until then it feels like you're using the CC tunnel to deflect/avoid other reads. I don't think I want to lynch you today. I want you to help me lynch Vayoletta
This is the way.
|
On June 13 2023 12:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Here Chez, I'll talk about you some more Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 07:39 Chezinu wrote:On June 11 2023 07:38 DarthPunk wrote:
##Unvote: Copcake
##Vote: Vayoletta
I think this is a start actually. I didn't mean AFK town, I said AFK Mafia! Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 07:42 Chezinu wrote:On June 11 2023 07:41 Chezinu wrote:On June 11 2023 07:40 DarthPunk wrote:On June 11 2023 07:39 Chezinu wrote:On June 11 2023 07:38 DarthPunk wrote:
##Unvote: Copcake
##Vote: Vayoletta
I think this is a start actually. I didn't mean AFK town, I said AFK Mafia! Who is that Chez? On June 12 2023 23:40 Chezinu wrote:
TTT is obv mafia, but should we kill DP first? Don't you want to find out if Vay I'd AI or not? Also, Vay said that they were going to be AFK before hand. Show nested quote +On June 12 2023 23:40 Chezinu wrote:
TTT is obv mafia, but should we kill DP first? Show nested quote +On June 12 2023 11:07 Chezinu wrote:
Boo!! It's not a blue.
Slam confirmed town. Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 03:58 Chezinu wrote:On June 13 2023 03:36 Vayoletta wrote:
Im now free from my long term guest and can play properly.
My PoE right now is Vivax, Chez, Marvellosity and Mz.
I believe LS’s claim. I read Copcake and Slam town. I trust rayn’s and CopCake’s point on DP to not suspect him now, but I am not quite sold on rayn being town. I hope I will find him as I go through the material.
I hope I did not forget anyone. Say what!?!?! Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 08:53 Chezinu wrote:OK. time to series. seriously. Let start a keto diet. Step 1. Eliminate carbs. #Vote Copcake+ Show Spoiler +Now, you just need to argue how your are the cop guarding the cake and preventing us from eating it. Then other may argue that there is no cake and that the cake is a lie. But others will say it just matters what is on the inside. Then I'll be like. I love strawberry cake.. raspberries... cherries... This progression is fucking wild Chez. You start with don't lynch Vayo bc they said they'd be AFK. You posted this at 7:42 TL Time. Vayoletta did say two days prior that they were going to be busy on the first day... but then came back and said they were catching up here: Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 04:25 Vayoletta wrote:
I have had like the busiest weekend ever sitting pretty and drinkin vegan soy cafe latte at the edge of the town. Now it’s my time to walk into the centre with my fancy state of the art stiletto heels and proclaim Alakaslam vibes town to me. I put on my curved sunglasses as I look at the bright monitor once again, hoping to get beyond page 7 before the day ends. That's 3 hours before your post that Vayoletta said they were coming back to the thread. Maybe a little TMI from a mafia QT? Who knows but it's odd you would defend them for being AFK when they had already come back to the thread and started posting. Then you said slam was town Then vayoletta said slam was town and you were on her PoE list Then you voted CopCake Then you called Vayoletta scum with CC and TTT. That whole progression on vayoletta is something. As is the scumread of DP which you dropped and your sudden vote on CC. I don't think I've fully solved everything but I'm pretty sure if we start lynching into Vayoletta/Chez/TTT we're going to hit at least one scum.
I like this. About the bolded slam in Vay's post. How can you give Slam a townread, but Chez a null read!?!?!.
|
On June 13 2023 13:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 12:48 Chezinu wrote:On June 13 2023 12:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Does this post agree with itself TTT? On June 12 2023 12:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
A bit disorganised at this point, reading through all the posts since #30 atm, I'm up to #53 so I'm biased towards happenings within that frame.
I just spent a lot of time inside my head on you DP. Real spooky. I thought that a red DP would see the difference between DMB last game and this game, and know it meant blue. Then they could lead the mislynch, but have meta from previous game on leading mislynches. Bonus points for backing away from it at the last minute by reading them green (ad lib). But it was Rayn that pointed you in that direction, so that play doesn't work out unless redDP is very fortunate and just had this play fall into his lap (I don't think Rayn's suggestion was red at all). There were some other things. Your reactions have felt artificial twice to me - one was in response to CC, can't remember the other. You being onboard with policy feels irrational but I'm not actually sure on your position on that and WW may have softened you up.
But overall it's too much reach, so I'm back to treating you as green based on the overall pro-townliness of your play. Your read on me is exactly what I would expect and I can't argue against it. I'm not as engaged in poor information environments.
Rayn is green.
LS is weird because I think he decided at the start of the game that he was going to play differently and so my main reason for giving him the benefit of the doubt feels artificial. Someone said at some point that he feels very in the moment and I agree with that. He also seems to come across as artificial whenever he thinks he should be providing an anger response (congruent with autism claim). So I sort of just want to leave him and see where he takes it for now.
I still see CC as red. I don't really want to engage with her because she counter-tunnels and shits up the thread leaving everyone confused. I don't think there's anything she could say that would change my mind, but she also hasn't really done anything since that alleviates or intensifies my suspicion. The read is stale but it's still my firmest read.
Overall, I think town have been eating town a lot, but also in many directions. This sort of environment is something I wanted at the start of the game (not the TvT thing, but the diversity of opinions thing as opposed to last game which felt sychophantic to me from many). This pushes me in the direction of thinking that mafia are more passive, so toward Vayo, Marv, and Slam. You said CC is stale but how is it your firmest read when you say you're thinking mafia are more passive? Let's put all the policy lynch stuff from D1 aside, would you vote Vayoletta today after the last 36+ hours of thread progression? On June 12 2023 16:07 TankTopTiger wrote:On June 11 2023 03:33 Vivax wrote:
Probably town:
- Hapa (attitude mostly, like a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh)
- Marv (decent followup to bugs bunny intro, aligns with Hapa in some aspects)
- Rayn (I don't think he'd scumread Chez for his vote on me as mafia and would rather go along with it comes to mind as a reason)
- LS (Christmas tree salience recycled first post + I kind of agree with Slam on his initial analysis at this point.I think he'd have folded and fell over by now as scum)
- Vayo (weird gut reason, seems familiar idk how)
- Cop (tonally seems like annoyed town to me also #hashtag has me pocketed so congratz if scum)
Not sure, could murder:
Chezinu, Slam, DMB, MZ
Want to murder:
DP, TTT How did you have reads on Marv or Vayo? These seem like really weak reasons to give someone town points. Ok I don't disagree with you. Your posts are structurally almost identical to the last game but something still feels a little off to me and I think it's because you're still stuck on CopCake who I've been mostly green on so far and I feel like you're dancing around calling vayoletta scum even though you were one of the leading reasons that lynch never got off the ground. I think if you spent more time on your other reads and less time on CC I'd be more inclined to townread you again but until then it feels like you're using the CC tunnel to deflect/avoid other reads. I don't think I want to lynch you today. I want you to help me lynch Vayoletta This is the way. After Vayoletta you and TTT can enter the thunderdome for who gets lynched next.
Yay!! Looks like you read my Prism signups?
|
|
|
On June 11 2023 20:20 Vivax wrote:
I dreamed tonight that I saw a manificent fox approach from the balcony while laying on a lawn of grass with dmb. It climbed down a tree, jumped past us and got into the flat.
Inside the house, no red fox anywhere other young foxes of different colors who were hiding under pieces of furniture. The first to run past bit DMB in the big toe, so I started grabbing whatever I could and hunting them down, but their number kept proliferating at an alarming rate before I woke up.
What the fox flying or a demon?
|
On June 13 2023 13:34 DarthPunk wrote:
I advocate a vig shot on chez btw. If we have one.
If we do, kill LS.
|
|
|
I got busy talking to someone in RL towards the end of Day 1. But we got the blue, so all good.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
