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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 11:10 GMT
#2370
On June 15 2023 19:41 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax what do you think of cake?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 11:11 GMT
#2373
On June 15 2023 20:10 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 19:57 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 13 2023 03:29 marvellosity wrote:
On June 13 2023 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Whoever said MZ is town because he cared about the lynch, is not making a very good read. MZ's targets were LS and Vayoletta. We know Ls is like 99% blue, so unless MZ is mafia with Vayoletta, this is very safe thing to do to "look like caring" when noone is on the line from mafia team -- and multiple people had even said they are not up for policy lynch.

On June 11 2023 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 11 2023 10:41 Hapahauli wrote:
I really dislike that this game is just a shadow of the previous game. Feels like i'm just missing half my brain.

Well we've got 15 minutes, DMB, DP, Vayoletta, or LS.

On June 11 2023 10:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.

I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it.

I would rather policy. Worst thing that happens is Vayoletta flips town. If we don't policy, Vayoletta gets modkilled and we potentially mislynch a townie and lose 2 instead of worst case scenario 1.

In between here LS claims.
On June 11 2023 10:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LS... sigh. OK doubling down on a policy now

Now what is this?? His other lynch target drops a blue claim so he STARTS DOUBTING the only viable lynch in his mind ?????? Or is there something i am misreading in this post lol?

You have stolen my thoughts on MZ around the lynch



This post where he agrees with a read by Rayn whose conclusion is based on Rayns misunderstanding of the phrase 'doubles down' and is therefore tragically wrong.



Can I just get clarification here?

+MZ had two reads: Vayo and LS.
+LS claims
+MZ doubles down on "policy lynching" Vayo, his other read
+Rayn misreads this as him abandoning his second read
+Marv thinks this is a good take

This is what happened? Because if it is, this is super solid.


Yes that is what happened.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 11:14 GMT
#2376
On June 15 2023 20:11 Vivax wrote:
DP how am I town to you this very moment ?


Honestly after your shit post I almost called you mafia.

but here is why I think you could be town now.

1.) you are supposed to be more afk as maf and your posting more now d3 with some space

2.) Rayn had you locked as town and now so does TTT

and the most important one that has caused me to lean town on you this game.

3.) you swapped off DMB really early when there was literally no reason to do so and it would be much much easier to play, do anything with DMB dead if you are maf.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 11:15 GMT
#2379
Also you called Marv out early on avoiding/ignoring answering you. I have been quietly thinking about that ever since. And it's pretty much true and part of the reason I think he is mafia now.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 11:16 GMT
#2380
On June 15 2023 20:14 TankTopTiger wrote:
How are you this smart and this stupid at the same time DP? Between this and 3postslatergate you just killed him dead.


I needed to stop spamming for a bit and think.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 11:17 GMT
#2382
On June 15 2023 20:16 TankTopTiger wrote:
Like this is incredibly solid work. My only reservation is that you didn't slamdunk him the moment you read it but say it's been bothering you a while?



I was shook from the last mislynch. What else can I say, other than I wanted him to be town,
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 11:30 GMT
#2390
On June 14 2023 18:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 18:12 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
So Marv who's scum now, Chez? Maybe rayn? Hard to tell from your filter but I might be tired

Maybe and maybe, I haven’t read the lynch yet (work) but seems clear a reassessment needs to happen.

This is where I'm at right now but I'm slightly unsettled you don't have more.

But you did tall about your activity level pregame you're right. Sigh


This interaction is fake as fuck
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 11:32 GMT
#2392
there is a third part TTT
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 11:37 GMT
#2396
On June 15 2023 06:05 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, most of my thinking about TTT was purely from the view of wagonomics (that’s definitely a word right?).


the only post that even mentions wagonomics for his thinking on TTT was this:

On June 14 2023 18:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 18:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo

I don’t think it’s much though


I think the wagon is spread the only person suspect in my mind from vote switching day 2 is vivax.

Which only really makes sense if TTT is maf


Nah the switch back to Vayo to secure a town ! Ttt lynch.

That assumes that mafia think TTT easier to lynch than Vayo?


Actually most of his thinking was based on reading his filter:


On June 14 2023 03:18 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, I have just spent quite a bit of time in TTT’s filter, then I read your case at the end of it. I mentioned previously that TTT had disregarded information in the thread that contradicted his own tunnel. I went and found where it started to make it easier for you to check: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/609557-tl-endures-mafia?page=148#2942

Essentially the history being that TTT thought he caught me in some sort of trap about what I said about LS sheeping me. He thought that I was talking about LS voting me, rather than following my vote on to DP in weak fashion. I posted my posts in thread to show this and he ignored it. Obviously it’s poor play to ignore evidence, but then again the direct evidence here is that a town TTT will ignore evidence. What makes it a little bit more difficult to stomach is that TTT does talk in his filter about learning from the tunnel on me, but makes the same ‘mistake’ (if that’s what it is) on CC.

Just to touch on your point about the “twice as weird” thing again now I reread his filter and your case - the not-mafia explanation here is that he originally found CC’s read on you weird, rowed back on it after an explanation, then found it weird again with the information that CC tends not to read you as town.

For me the strangest thing about his filter is the near obsession with DP; obviously they know each other irl so part of it must be that. But there’s a lot of dangling DP there as possibly mafia while consistently reading him town for not much other than ‘pro town’ posting. To me that doesn’t mesh very well compared to his nuts tunnel on me last game, I would have thought he would be more willing to interrogate his DP read, or otherwise have better reasons to read him town.



On June 14 2023 05:11 marvellosity wrote:
If I read TTT’s filter I can find more reasons for him to be town than Vayo. I don’t know if that means TTT is actually town but I do think he’s a worse lynch


He is saying to rayn that his thinking on you (maybe being town) was mostly due to the makeup of the wagons, but this is in fact not the case as he stated it was from reading your filters.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 11:39 GMT
#2398
If marv is mafia he is probably more active in the mafia discord than in the thread would be my guess.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 11:41 GMT
#2402
On June 15 2023 20:40 CopCake wrote:
The problem with the case is the “but” of the last paragraph of first quoted post.

Does he mean he read DP later or he still has it at scum there?

I dont wanna be played by “missunderstanding” so I wanna be sure.


He said he thought I was mafia for a good while.

and then says he doesn't understand why I had any votes day one.

Pretty clear to me why that doesn't mesh CC.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 11:42 GMT
#2403
On June 15 2023 20:40 Vivax wrote:
Slightly offtopic but DP going from archon to arbiter at this timing is lol


Yeah I noticed that too.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 11:58 GMT
#2412
On June 15 2023 20:51 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 20:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 15 2023 20:40 Vivax wrote:
Slightly offtopic but DP going from archon to arbiter at this timing is lol


Yeah I noticed that too.


I‘m lowkey disappointed you didn‘t call me mafia back there.
Once in a lifetime opportunity to lead you astray after I woke up feeling mischievous enough to dare writing that crock of nonsense.

That was the last you‘ve seen of me trolling this game.


Unlucky timing I guess. I needed to give others space to do something and I guess it worked. In my mind we built a circle and caught a mafia.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 12:14 GMT
#2417
On June 15 2023 21:12 Vivax wrote:
Offtopic but required by the situation I think:

+ Show Spoiler +
On another note, the bursts are a little souvenir from what happened in December would be my guess.
Maybe with a bit of an hereditary component that I‘m not sure is included in the DSM already.

I just think it‘s weird that I seem to have right hemispherical proprioception of the brain at times and that‘s also where the nutso in me comes from I‘d wager. Massive but indiscriminatory imagination and a recurring spot for isolated headaches.


You seem like you would be an interesting guy to meet in person I'd wager. (in a good way)
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 12:16 GMT
#2419
Copcake do you think Marv is mafia or not? because I'm still not clear on you position on it. Your vote is on TTT.

So you aren't really working with me, you know.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 12:21 GMT
#2422
+ Show Spoiler +
in comes TTT wielding his psych degree lmao.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 12:33 GMT
#2425
why copcake leave with this unresolved?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 12:37 GMT
#2428
On June 15 2023 21:36 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 21:33 DarthPunk wrote:
why copcake leave with this unresolved?


?????

I was posting while doing other stuff, I didnt leave



Ok no worries.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 13:00 GMT
#2430
On June 15 2023 21:57 CopCake wrote:
Do you think I would make that mistake as mafia? :p

Besides I understand irl happens.


what mistake are you talking about?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 15 2023 13:06 GMT
#2432
On June 15 2023 22:03 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 22:00 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 15 2023 21:57 CopCake wrote:
Do you think I would make that mistake as mafia? :p

Besides I understand irl happens.


what mistake are you talking about?


To leave in the middle of a discussion like that


I'll take your word for it :D
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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